WEBVTT 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Like a lot of people around the world, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 earlier this summer my friends and I were obsessed 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 with the Women's World Cup held in France. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Here we are, watching these incredible athletes, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 the goals were amazing, the games were clean and engaging, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and at the same time, outside the field, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 these women are talking about equal pay, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and in the case of some countries, any pay at all for their sport. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 So because we were mildly obsessed, we wanted to watch the games live, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and we decided that one of the Spanish-speaking networks in the US 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 was the best place for us to start, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and it wasn't until a few games into the tournament 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 that a friend of mine talks to me and says, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 "Why does it feel like everything I'm seeing 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 is commercials for makeup and household cleaning products and diets?" 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 It did feel a little bit too obvious, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and I don't know if we were sensitive about it 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 or the fact that we were watching with men and boys in our lives, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 but it did feel a little bit too obvious 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 that we're being targeted for being women. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And to be honest there's nothing necessarily wrong with that. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Someone sat down and looked at the tournament and said, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 "Well, this thing is likely to be seen by more women, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 these women are Hispanic because they're watching in Spanish, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and this is women content. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Therefore, this is a great place for me to place all these commercials 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 that are female-centric and maybe not other things." 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 If I think about it as a marketer, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I know that I absolutely should not be annoyed about it, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 because this is what marketers are tasked with doing. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Marketers are tasked with building brands with very limited budget, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 so there's a little bit of an incentive 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 to categorize people in buckets 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 so they can reach their target faster. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 So if you think about this, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 it's kind of like a shortcut. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 They're using gender as a shortcut to get to their target consumer. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 The issue is that as logical as that argument seems, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 gender as a shortcut is actually not great. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 In this day and age, if you still blindly use a gender view 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 for your marketing activities, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 actually it's just plain bad business. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I'm not talking even about the backlash on stereotypes in advertising, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 which is a very real thing that has to be addressed. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I'm saying it's bad business because you're leaving money on the table 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 for your brands and your products. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Because gender is such an easy thing to find in the market 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and to target and to talk about, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 it actually distracts you from the fun things 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 that could be driving growth from your brands, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and, at the same time, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 it continues to create separation around genders 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and perpetuating stereotypes. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 So at the same time this activity is bad for your business 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and bad for society, so double whammy. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And gender is one of those things like other demographics 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 that have historically been good marketing shortcuts. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 At some point, however, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 we forgot that at the core we were targeting needs 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 around cooking and cleaning and personal care and driving and sports 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and we just made it all a bucket and we said, "Men and women are different." 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 We got used to it and we never challenged it again, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and it's fascinating to me 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and by fascinating I mean a little bit insane 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 that we still talk about this as a segment 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 when it's most likely carryover bias. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 In fact, I don't come to this conclusion lightly. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 We have enough data to suggest that gender is not the best place 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 to start for you to design and target your brands. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And I would even go one step further: 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 unless you are working in a very gender-specific product category, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 probably anything else 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 you're hypothesizing about your consumer right now 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 is going to be more useful than gender. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 We did not set up to draw this conclusion specifically. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 We found it. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 As consultants, our job is to go with our clients 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and understand their business 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and try to help them find spaces for their brands to grow, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and it is our belief that if you want to find disruptive growth in the market, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 you have to go to the consumer 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and take a very agnostic view of the consumer. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 You have to go and look at them from scratch, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 remove yourself from biases and segments that you thought were important, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 just take a look to see where the growth is. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And we built ourselves an algorithm precisely for that. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 So imagine that we have a person and we know a person 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 is making a choice about a product or service, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and from this person, I can know their gender, of course, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 other demographics, where they live, their income, other things. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I know the context where this person is making a decision, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 where they are, who they're with, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 the energy, anything, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and I can also put other things in the mix. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I can know their attitudes, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 how they feel about the category, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 their behaviors. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 So if you imagine this kind of blob of big data about a person, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I'm going to oversimplify the science here 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 but we basically built an algorithm for statistical tournaments. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 So a statistical tournament is like asking this big thing of data, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 "So, data, from everything you know about consumers at this point, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 what is the most useful thing I need to know 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 that tells me more about what consumers need? 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 So the tournament is going to have winners and losers. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 The winners are those variables, those dimensions, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 that actually teach you a lot about your consumer, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 that if you know that, you know what they need, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and there's losing variables that are just not that practical, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and this matters because in a world of limited resources, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 you don't want to waste it on people that actually have the same needs. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 So why treat them differently? 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 So at this point, I know, suspense is not killing you, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 because I told you what the output is, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 but what we found over time 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 is, after 200 projects around the world, this is covering 20 countries or more, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 in essence we ran about a hundred thousand of these tournaments, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and, no surprise, gender was very rarely the most predictive thing 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 to understand consumer needs. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 From a hundred thousand tournaments, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 gender only came out as the winning variable 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 in about five percent of them. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 This is true around the world, by the way. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 We did this in places where traditional gender roles 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 are little more pronounced, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and the conclusions were exactly the same. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 It was a little bit more important, gender, than five percent, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 but not material. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 So let's let that sink in for a second. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 No matter how you're looking at a consumer, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 most likely anything else is going to be more interesting to you than gender. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 There's probably something very important you need to know about them, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and you're getting distracted because you're doing everything based on gender. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And that's why I say you're leaving money on the table. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Gender is easy. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 It's easy to design advertising based on gender, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 it's easy to target people online and on TV based on gender. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 But at the end, that's not where the exciting growth will come from. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 If you're a food company, for example, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 it's actually much more interesting to you 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 to know where people are eating, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 who they are eating with, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 are they very nutritionally oriented. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 All of those things are actually significantly more powerful and useful 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 than knowing if a person is a man or a woman. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And that matters, of course, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 because then if you're putting your limited budget into action, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 then you're better off creating solutions for different occasions 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 than trying to target women versus young men. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Another example if alcoholic beverages. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Thirty-five percent to 40 percent of consumption in alcoholic beverages 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 around the world actually happens with women, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 but, you know, "women don't drink beer." 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Those are the things that we typically hear. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 But actually, when a man and a woman are, for the most part, in the same location, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 the emotional and functional needs they have at that moment 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 are very similar. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 There's only one exception, by the way, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and the exceptions exist, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 where if you have a man and a woman 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 on a date, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 the man is trying to impress the woman 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and the woman is trying to connect with the man, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 so there's going to be a little bit of tension, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 but that's important to know. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 We'll take a few dates. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Financial institutions: 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 that's something where we've heard 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 a lot about the difference between men and women, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 but actually talking about men and women as different 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 actually is distracting you from the thing that is underneath. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 We made it so simple as "women don't like to invest," 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 "women hate managing their money," 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 "men are great and aggressive and risk-takers," 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 but at the end it's not about men and women. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 It is actually a different narrative. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 It is about, there are people that are excited and energized 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and educated to manage their finances 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 versus people that are not. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 So if you change the conversation 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 from men and women to actually what's underneath 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 then probably you'll stop being so condescending to women 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and you may start serving some men 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 that are actually shy about managing their finances. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I'll leave one more example. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 If I go back to the women that were playing sport at the beginning, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 one of the fascinating things we found 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 over different countries 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 exploring sportswear 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 that if a person is a competitive person 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and they are in the moment of action, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 the needs are not different between a man and a woman. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 An athlete is an athlete. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 It doesn't matter for men and women, it doesn't matter for old and young, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 you are an athlete, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and in the moment of action and extreme competition, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 you need this gear to work for you. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 So these soccer-playing women have a lot in common with their counterparts. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Out of the field, it doesn't matter. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Out of the field, they may be into fashion, into other things, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 but on the field, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 the needs are not different. NOTE Paragraph 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 So these are just a few examples on categories where we found 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 that gender was not the best place to go, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and actually the argument is that 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 at this point it's not even a feminist push, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 it's just we got used it. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 We got used to using gender, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and it's important for us to start finding ways 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 to measure other things about consumers 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 so that we don't revert back to gender. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I am not naïve, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and I know there's still going to be appetite 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and certain ease around using gender, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 but at least this warrants conversation. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 In your business, you have to inquire, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 is this really the best lens for me to grow. NOTE Paragraph 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 So, if you are, like me, a person that is in business 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 that I am constantly worried about what is my role 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 in the broader societal discussions, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 if you're listening to your business 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and you hear things like, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 "Oh, my target are women, my target are men, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 this goes to young girls, young boys," 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 when it's that gender conversation, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 unless you are working, again, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 in a very specific, gender-specific product category, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 take this as a warning sign, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 because if you keep having these conversations, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 you will keep perpetuating stereotypes of people 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and making people think that men and women are different. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 But because this is business, and we're running a business 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and we want to grow it, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 at least kind of challenge your own instinct to use gender, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 because statistics say that you're probably not choosing the best variable 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 to target your product or service. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Growth is not easy at all. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 What makes you think that growth is going to come 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 from going into market with such an outdated lens like gender? 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 So let's stop doing what's easy and go for what's right. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 At this point, it's not just for your business, it's for society. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Thank you. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 (Applause)