[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,0:00:00.00,0:00:05.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:00:05.80,0:00:07.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,MORGAN CHAMBERS:\NThere are a range Dialogue: 0,0:00:07.22,0:00:10.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of issues considered\Nimportant for moving abroad Dialogue: 0,0:00:10.43,0:00:11.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for expatriates. Dialogue: 0,0:00:11.93,0:00:14.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Noeleen, you make a\Ndistinction between two types Dialogue: 0,0:00:14.69,0:00:15.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of expatriates. Dialogue: 0,0:00:15.42,0:00:17.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Can you just talk a little\Nbit about what they are? Dialogue: 0,0:00:17.10,0:00:18.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,NOELEEN DOHERTY: Sure. Dialogue: 0,0:00:18.02,0:00:20.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, there are many\Nmobile populations now Dialogue: 0,0:00:20.22,0:00:23.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we're beginning to realize\Nwithin the research literature Dialogue: 0,0:00:23.27,0:00:24.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,indeed. Dialogue: 0,0:00:24.44,0:00:28.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Two of the key groups are\Ncorporate-assigned or assigned Dialogue: 0,0:00:28.10,0:00:30.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,expatriates, company-backed. Dialogue: 0,0:00:30.47,0:00:33.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And another key group are the\Nself-initiated expatriates. Dialogue: 0,0:00:33.44,0:00:35.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And self-initiated\Nbeing those people who Dialogue: 0,0:00:35.90,0:00:40.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,take the decision themselves\Nand fund their own stay abroad. Dialogue: 0,0:00:40.82,0:00:42.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,MORGAN CHAMBERS: Having\Nidentified the two Dialogue: 0,0:00:42.77,0:00:44.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,different groups, they do\Nhave a number of things Dialogue: 0,0:00:44.81,0:00:45.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in common, however. Dialogue: 0,0:00:45.80,0:00:47.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Would you like to just talk\Na little bit about what Dialogue: 0,0:00:47.93,0:00:48.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,those commonalities are? Dialogue: 0,0:00:48.93,0:00:49.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,NOELEEN DOHERTY: Sure. Dialogue: 0,0:00:49.85,0:00:52.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The self-initiated expatriate\Nand the corporate expatriate Dialogue: 0,0:00:52.34,0:00:54.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,do have some baseline\Ncommonalities. Dialogue: 0,0:00:54.98,0:00:58.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Self-initiated corporates,\Npeople, obviously Dialogue: 0,0:00:58.55,0:01:00.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have a motivation and\Na drive to move abroad Dialogue: 0,0:01:00.53,0:01:02.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for the foreign experience. Dialogue: 0,0:01:02.33,0:01:04.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They often have a great\Ndesire for adventure. Dialogue: 0,0:01:04.61,0:01:06.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They like to travel, like\Nto see different places, Dialogue: 0,0:01:06.93,0:01:10.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and have a real drive to\Ngo abroad and move away Dialogue: 0,0:01:10.56,0:01:14.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from their home location and\Ngo and stay in a host location. Dialogue: 0,0:01:14.46,0:01:15.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,MORGAN CHAMBERS:\NSo your findings Dialogue: 0,0:01:15.84,0:01:23.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have identified eight factors in\Nthe model that you've described, Dialogue: 0,0:01:23.01,0:01:26.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and there are some\Nsubtle differences there. Dialogue: 0,0:01:26.92,0:01:28.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Can you talk to what\Nsome of those differences Dialogue: 0,0:01:28.85,0:01:30.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,might be for the two groups? Dialogue: 0,0:01:30.02,0:01:30.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,NOELEEN DOHERTY: OK. Dialogue: 0,0:01:30.85,0:01:35.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The range of factors that drives\Nthe motivation to move abroad Dialogue: 0,0:01:35.67,0:01:37.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,cover a large number of areas. Dialogue: 0,0:01:37.48,0:01:40.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that includes\Nthe location, what Dialogue: 0,0:01:40.62,0:01:43.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,location that the person\Nis going to go to. Dialogue: 0,0:01:43.23,0:01:45.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It includes career issues. Dialogue: 0,0:01:45.39,0:01:48.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It includes family\Nconsiderations. Dialogue: 0,0:01:48.48,0:01:50.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And when we looked at\Nthe two different groups, Dialogue: 0,0:01:50.47,0:01:53.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we found that for\Nself-initiated expatriates, Dialogue: 0,0:01:53.74,0:01:57.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they were significantly\Nmore motivated, more Dialogue: 0,0:01:57.18,0:02:01.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,influenced by the motivation\Naround location and host Dialogue: 0,0:02:01.59,0:02:03.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,reputation. Dialogue: 0,0:02:03.45,0:02:06.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Interestingly, that would\Nprobably be a factor of the fact Dialogue: 0,0:02:06.51,0:02:09.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that they choose the\Ndestination themselves, Dialogue: 0,0:02:09.12,0:02:11.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whereas company-backed\Nexpatriates are Dialogue: 0,0:02:11.23,0:02:13.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sent to a particular location. Dialogue: 0,0:02:13.13,0:02:15.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,On the other hand,\Ncompany-backed expatriates Dialogue: 0,0:02:15.64,0:02:18.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,were more driven by\Nthe career factors, Dialogue: 0,0:02:18.71,0:02:21.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what was in it in terms of\Ncareer benefit and career Dialogue: 0,0:02:21.25,0:02:22.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,development. Dialogue: 0,0:02:22.16,0:02:26.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So they were distinguished quite\Nclearly on those three assets. Dialogue: 0,0:02:26.24,0:02:27.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,MORGAN CHAMBERS: So\Nthe career factors, Dialogue: 0,0:02:27.86,0:02:29.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,do you want to just\Nelaborate a little bit more Dialogue: 0,0:02:29.82,0:02:31.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on what they are? Dialogue: 0,0:02:31.03,0:02:33.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,NOELEEN DOHERTY: Obviously, for\Na corporate-backed expatriate, Dialogue: 0,0:02:33.74,0:02:36.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,career drivers are one\Nof the key major issues Dialogue: 0,0:02:36.46,0:02:38.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that they take\Ninto consideration. Dialogue: 0,0:02:38.65,0:02:42.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Companies actually position\Nan international assignment Dialogue: 0,0:02:42.16,0:02:43.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as a career benefit. Dialogue: 0,0:02:43.86,0:02:45.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, there's a\Nwhole area of doubt Dialogue: 0,0:02:45.28,0:02:46.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,around whether or\Nnot that actually is Dialogue: 0,0:02:46.86,0:02:48.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,realized when they come back. Dialogue: 0,0:02:48.53,0:02:50.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But certainly, as\None of the come-ons Dialogue: 0,0:02:50.47,0:02:52.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to take up an\Ninternational assignment, Dialogue: 0,0:02:52.37,0:02:56.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,companies usually position\Nit of a career benefit. Dialogue: 0,0:02:56.75,0:03:00.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Self-initiated\Nexpatriates tend to Dialogue: 0,0:03:00.13,0:03:04.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or seem to at least consider a\Ncareer as part of a much more Dialogue: 0,0:03:04.27,0:03:07.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,holistic life\Ndevelopment process Dialogue: 0,0:03:07.63,0:03:09.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,through the\Ninternational assignment. Dialogue: 0,0:03:09.44,0:03:13.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So career drivers are not\Nthe major or primary drivers Dialogue: 0,0:03:13.00,0:03:15.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for them, rather they're\Na secondary driver. Dialogue: 0,0:03:15.07,0:03:16.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,MORGAN CHAMBERS:\NSo there could be Dialogue: 0,0:03:16.49,0:03:20.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,indeed some important\Nimplications for these two Dialogue: 0,0:03:20.03,0:03:23.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,distinctions and the other\Nfactors that are involved. Dialogue: 0,0:03:23.16,0:03:25.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What would be some of the\Nimplications to think about, Dialogue: 0,0:03:25.41,0:03:27.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or what were some of\Nthe questions that Dialogue: 0,0:03:27.04,0:03:29.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,were raised for you as a\Nresult of the implications? Dialogue: 0,0:03:29.37,0:03:29.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,NOELEEN DOHERTY: Yes,\NI think there are Dialogue: 0,0:03:29.90,0:03:31.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some very clear implications. Dialogue: 0,0:03:31.14,0:03:32.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If we look at it\Nfrom the first point, Dialogue: 0,0:03:32.72,0:03:34.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from an organizational\Nperspective, Dialogue: 0,0:03:34.91,0:03:36.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there have been\Nsome doubt raised Dialogue: 0,0:03:36.56,0:03:39.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about the utility of a\Nself-initiated expatriates Dialogue: 0,0:03:39.26,0:03:42.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to a corporation,\Nparticularly around the nature Dialogue: 0,0:03:42.02,0:03:43.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of their risky behavior. Dialogue: 0,0:03:43.38,0:03:45.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're very driven\Nto be mobile. Dialogue: 0,0:03:45.27,0:03:47.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're very self-assertive. Dialogue: 0,0:03:47.90,0:03:51.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so therefore, they get\Nup and go when they need to Dialogue: 0,0:03:51.21,0:03:52.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or when they feel\Nlike they want to. Dialogue: 0,0:03:52.71,0:03:54.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And obviously, many\Ncompanies wouldn't Dialogue: 0,0:03:54.29,0:03:58.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,want to have that level\Nof self-driven behavior. Dialogue: 0,0:03:58.58,0:04:01.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And therefore, they can be\Nperceived by organizations Dialogue: 0,0:04:01.13,0:04:03.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to be a little bit\Nrisky, possibly, Dialogue: 0,0:04:03.98,0:04:06.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not falling within\Ntheir particular HR Dialogue: 0,0:04:06.68,0:04:08.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,strategy or policy. Dialogue: 0,0:04:08.94,0:04:11.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Organizations don't tend to have\Nparticular strategies already Dialogue: 0,0:04:11.63,0:04:15.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,developed to manage the\Nself-initiated populations. Dialogue: 0,0:04:15.47,0:04:18.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so they could be\Nperceived as a group Dialogue: 0,0:04:18.84,0:04:23.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that organizations don't take\Nas a part of their core employee Dialogue: 0,0:04:23.58,0:04:24.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,grouping. Dialogue: 0,0:04:24.72,0:04:28.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I think from an individual\Npoint of view, the issue around Dialogue: 0,0:04:28.23,0:04:31.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what benefit they might accrue\Nfrom being abroad, certainly, Dialogue: 0,0:04:31.14,0:04:32.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there's a literature\Nthat suggests Dialogue: 0,0:04:32.58,0:04:35.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that corporate expatriates\Nsometimes don't always Dialogue: 0,0:04:35.22,0:04:37.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,accrue the benefit\Nwhen they come home. Dialogue: 0,0:04:37.59,0:04:41.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it's also been shown by\Nvery few studies at the moment Dialogue: 0,0:04:41.28,0:04:43.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that self-initiated\Nexpatriates might also suffer Dialogue: 0,0:04:43.86,0:04:46.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from that when they repatriate. Dialogue: 0,0:04:46.16,0:04:48.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The career capital,\Nthe skills, knowledge, Dialogue: 0,0:04:48.12,0:04:50.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and abilities that they're able\Nto develop while abroad might Dialogue: 0,0:04:50.79,0:04:53.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not always be considered\Npositively by companies when Dialogue: 0,0:04:53.43,0:04:54.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they come back again. Dialogue: 0,0:04:54.81,0:04:56.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,MORGAN CHAMBERS: So\Nyou've identified Dialogue: 0,0:04:56.85,0:04:59.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a number of implications there. Dialogue: 0,0:04:59.84,0:05:01.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's still more work\Nto be done, more questions Dialogue: 0,0:05:01.92,0:05:03.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to be answered. Dialogue: 0,0:05:03.01,0:05:04.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,NOELEEN DOHERTY:\NCertainly, there's Dialogue: 0,0:05:04.98,0:05:08.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not a very large research base\Non self-initiated expatriation. Dialogue: 0,0:05:08.44,0:05:10.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is growing, but\Nthere are many questions Dialogue: 0,0:05:10.89,0:05:13.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,still around from a\Ncorporate point of view. Dialogue: 0,0:05:13.48,0:05:16.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What sort of asset could\Nthey be to the company? Dialogue: 0,0:05:16.59,0:05:18.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What sort of\Nmotivations and drivers Dialogue: 0,0:05:18.45,0:05:20.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,could the organization\Nplan more carefully Dialogue: 0,0:05:20.70,0:05:24.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for with respect to hiring\Nself-initiated expatriates? Dialogue: 0,0:05:24.01,0:05:26.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And also, how do\Nthese people integrate Dialogue: 0,0:05:26.29,0:05:28.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with the corporate\Nemployees that they Dialogue: 0,0:05:28.21,0:05:30.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are existing employees. Dialogue: 0,0:05:30.82,0:05:32.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,From an individual\Npoint of view, Dialogue: 0,0:05:32.83,0:05:36.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we still know very little\Nabout what drives people. Dialogue: 0,0:05:36.01,0:05:38.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We still don't know what the\Ndifferences are between people Dialogue: 0,0:05:38.47,0:05:42.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,moving from developed to\Ndeveloping, or developing Dialogue: 0,0:05:42.61,0:05:46.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to developing countries from a\Nself-initiated point of view. Dialogue: 0,0:05:46.06,0:05:47.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And also from an\Nindividual level, Dialogue: 0,0:05:47.75,0:05:49.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what sort of career\Ncapital they accrue, Dialogue: 0,0:05:49.70,0:05:51.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what sort of skills,\Nknowledge, and abilities Dialogue: 0,0:05:51.71,0:05:53.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they are able to\Ngather and develop Dialogue: 0,0:05:53.77,0:05:56.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,while they are having\Na foreign experience. Dialogue: 0,0:05:56.09,0:05:58.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And how they can then use those\Nin a career sense as well. Dialogue: 0,0:05:58.69,0:06:00.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,MORGAN CHAMBERS: So\Nyou started to answer Dialogue: 0,0:06:00.40,0:06:02.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some of these questions\Nfor human resources Dialogue: 0,0:06:02.80,0:06:06.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,professionals and organizations,\Nbut clearly still more issues Dialogue: 0,0:06:06.58,0:06:07.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are raised. Dialogue: 0,0:06:07.34,0:06:08.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,NOELEEN DOHERTY: Yes,\Nmany more issues, Dialogue: 0,0:06:08.96,0:06:11.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,particularly from a\Ncorporate point of view Dialogue: 0,0:06:11.32,0:06:13.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and also from an\Nindividual point of view. Dialogue: 0,0:06:13.55,0:06:15.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,MORGAN CHAMBERS:\NThank you, Noeleen. Dialogue: 0,0:06:15.05,0:06:16.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,NOELEEN DOHERTY: Thank you. Dialogue: 0,0:06:16.38,0:06:27.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,