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[Tyler] So Alex, we're economists.
Often people ask me,
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well what is it that we know about
investment and investment advice anyway?
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Now, we've already talked about equities,
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but as economists do we have
anything else to tell people?
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[Alex] Let's talk a little bit about housing,
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because housing is one of these areas
where there's a lot of myths around it.
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People in America,
it's part of the American Dream.
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And one thing I think people don't
realize is that over the long run,
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house prices are certainly
not guaranteed to go up.
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I mean we saw in the financial crisis
that house prices came way down.
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But there's still this kind of idea
that people have in their heads
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that they're not making any more land,
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so in the long run
house prices have to go up.
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And we know from our
understanding of assets
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that you should not expect your house
to be a great financial investment.
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But isn't there a tax reason
to buy a home?
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So if I borrow money for a mortgage,
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and I'm paying income tax
and itemizing my deductions,
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I can write off a lot of that mortgage
interest and get some of the money back.
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And that means
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it could be cheaper or more advantageous
to buy the home because of taxes.
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But don't forget,
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a lot of that tax advantage is going
to be captured not by the buyer,
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but by the seller.
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What the tax advantage means is
it pushes up the prices of homes.
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It's already built into a higher price,
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so you, as the buyer, don't always
get that gain. Often it's the seller.
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Well, but think of this
in terms of elasticity.
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Say I live in an area, like
many parts of Texas or Florida,
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where I get this tax break that
increases the demand for homes, yes.
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But then suppliers build more homes and
they drive the price back down again.
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And it seems that
in a lot of states actually,
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the buyer should be reaping a lot
of that tax break. Yes, No?
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If only there were more places
in the United States like that,
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I would tend to agree.
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But one of the big problems we have
in the United States today is that
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the demand for housing goes up
and you're in some place
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like San Francisco, or New York, or Boston
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where it's impossible
to get permits to build more housing.
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And when the demand goes up,
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all that means is
the price of the house goes up.
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So all of those gains, whether
it's from the tax system,
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or whether it's from people
wanting to move to San Francisco,
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all of those gains go to the land owners.
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And that's actually a big problem
we have in the United States today.
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But I do see a stability reason
to own a home.
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Say you're 37 years old,
you have 2 kids in school,
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you want them to go to a
good high school district.
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You don't want to be told,
"You're going to have to move."
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You want to arrange your backyard
the way you see fit.
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And you don't want to have to renegotiate
a rent contract.
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All of those factors militate
in favor of buying a home.
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So I think you're right for those people.
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But one thing you've got to keep in mind
is that on average,
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houses are not going to be
a great financial investment.
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So you have to be exactly
one of those people
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who wants extra stability,
more stability than the average person.
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That's when you're going to gain
from buying a house.
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And, keep in mind,
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that when you buy a house and
that heating system collapses
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and you've got to repair that,
that's a big problem.
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When you're hit by a lightning strike
and you've got to repair the roof,
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that's a big expense as well.
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So when people say, "I'm only
worried about the rent going up."
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Well that's fine.
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They may be worried about that,
but don't forget,
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you've got to be worried about replacing
the roof every 20 years, as well.
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So it's really a marginal question,
you're saying. Like at the margin,
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do you need the tax break
more than the typical buyer?
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At the margin,
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do you value the good high school district
more than the typical buyer?
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And at the margin,
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are you better at fixing the broken roof
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or hiring someone to do it
than the average buyer?
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And those things may or
may not apply to you,
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but that's the right way
to think about it?
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Exactly right, so if you
want that tax advantage,
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you've got to be earning
more income than average.
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You've got to be
itemizing your deductions.
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If you're not one of those people
in the upper middle class,
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you're not going to get
that tax advantage.
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If you've got one kid, maybe
the school is not so important.
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Maybe you have to have two
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before you really get that
advantage from the schooling.
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So yeah, you've got to be thinking about
how you're different from the average.
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If you really want to buy a home,
you've got to love buying a home.
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I think of people as needing
to save more typically,
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that we're programmed to think about
the here and now,
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we're a bit impatient.
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Perhaps we haven't evolved to think well
enough about the more distant future.
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If you buy a home,
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pay off your mortgage at the end of 30,
or one hopes 15 years, you own something.
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In the meantime, you're saving.
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and you get into a routine that
doesn't even feel like saving.
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It's more savings than if you're
writing a rent check every month.
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So maybe it's our own imperfections.
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We need to lock ourselves
into a higher savings regime,
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and that's another possible reason
to buy a home.
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Yeah, I do think the forth savings
argument has got something to it.
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But there's a big problem, especially
in the United States today,
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and that is there's such an encouragement
to buy houses with no money down,
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even after the financial crisis.
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If you really are concerned about savings,
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the key point is to have a 20% down
payment. So save up for that down payment.
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And that is really what is going to be
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the forth savings aspect
of buying the house.
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You know, I think the biggest piece
of advice I'd give to people
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is just to be on that
wealthier side of the equation,
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so that owning a home
makes sense for you.
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Don't forget our earlier investment
rule: Diversify, diversify, diversify.
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And yet, when it comes to housing,
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people are encouraged to put a huge
amount of their wealth into one asset,
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in one place in the country.
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That could be a terrible decision.
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If you're in a small town
with only one employer,
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and you have a house and
that employer goes bust,
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well your house price is going to fall,
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you might lose your job,
your income is all going to fall,
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and it's all going to be
happening concentrated,
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all in one place all at one time.
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