[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,0:00:08.96,0:00:12.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How to be Free from Ego Dialogue: 0,0:00:12.68,0:00:15.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,5 November 2024\N(with subtitles) Dialogue: 0,0:00:18.27,0:00:21.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Can I just read it out?\N[Q.1] Yes. Dialogue: 0,0:00:21.18,0:00:23.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] You write, 'Dear Guruji. Dialogue: 0,0:00:23.29,0:00:27.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I am too ashamed and afraid to speak to you. Dialogue: 0,0:00:27.40,0:00:31.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't know how to observe with detachment. Dialogue: 0,0:00:31.56,0:00:35.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't know how to be aware\Nthat I am aware. Dialogue: 0,0:00:35.45,0:00:39.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I still see this 'I' identity as real.\NPlease help me.' Dialogue: 0,0:00:39.89,0:00:42.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's a very, very honest thing. Dialogue: 0,0:00:42.67,0:00:45.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I wish people would write more like this. Dialogue: 0,0:00:45.80,0:00:49.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because some people,\Nthey hold back and they don't say. Dialogue: 0,0:00:49.32,0:00:51.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I appreciate that you can say it, Dialogue: 0,0:00:51.59,0:00:54.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because I can kind of have a chance Dialogue: 0,0:00:54.57,0:00:58.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to share with you in a simple way. Dialogue: 0,0:00:59.30,0:01:04.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'I don't know\Nhow to observe with detachment.' Dialogue: 0,0:01:07.31,0:01:12.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Actually, we're observing with detachment\Non many things, Dialogue: 0,0:01:12.21,0:01:16.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if they don't matter to you,\Nyou understand? Dialogue: 0,0:01:16.17,0:01:19.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If things don't matter to you, \Nyou still see them, Dialogue: 0,0:01:19.38,0:01:21.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but you're not distracted by them. Dialogue: 0,0:01:21.77,0:01:25.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Everybody, same thing.\NSo that's the first part. Dialogue: 0,0:01:25.38,0:01:29.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is no such thing as \Nnot observing with detachment. Dialogue: 0,0:01:29.24,0:01:33.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If, suppose everything you see,\Nevery situation you had, Dialogue: 0,0:01:33.76,0:01:36.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you had to remember.\NIt's just alive in you. Dialogue: 0,0:01:36.96,0:01:40.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We'll be completely crazy.\NNobody can do. Dialogue: 0,0:01:40.00,0:01:46.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is the mechanism \Nof our true natural state, Dialogue: 0,0:01:46.39,0:01:49.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's working all the time to ... Dialogue: 0,0:01:49.93,0:01:52.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Like you can walk through here,\Nwalk up there. Dialogue: 0,0:01:52.82,0:01:56.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You don't have to notice every step.\NYou don't notice everything. Dialogue: 0,0:01:56.84,0:02:02.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You meet a person, 'Hi. Good morning'. \NYou pass. You don't have to retain that. Dialogue: 0,0:02:02.37,0:02:08.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So a natural detachment is functioning inside us. Dialogue: 0,0:02:10.69,0:02:15.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's already there, detachment. Dialogue: 0,0:02:15.05,0:02:19.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If we were not able to detach \Nand yet we are perceiving, Dialogue: 0,0:02:19.82,0:02:22.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we would be in trouble. Dialogue: 0,0:02:22.87,0:02:30.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, first of all, know that it's natural \Nthat you meet people ... Dialogue: 0,0:02:30.26,0:02:34.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's the things that matter to you, Dialogue: 0,0:02:34.61,0:02:39.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you start to become more attached to. Dialogue: 0,0:02:39.12,0:02:43.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Like it has meaning \Nand so I have to remember this thing. Dialogue: 0,0:02:43.00,0:02:46.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it's almost like \Nyou take a kind of photograph Dialogue: 0,0:02:46.80,0:02:50.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in some kind of way inside,\Nit's like that matters. Dialogue: 0,0:02:50.30,0:02:54.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So then it become important.\NSo like this, when you say, Dialogue: 0,0:02:54.41,0:02:58.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'I don't know how to observe with detachment.' Dialogue: 0,0:02:58.85,0:03:05.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If I say, But you're doing it anyway \Nwith many things. Dialogue: 0,0:03:05.41,0:03:08.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If I walk through from the front\Nto the back here, Dialogue: 0,0:03:08.51,0:03:13.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I say to everybody as we're walking through,\NBe detached from everything, Dialogue: 0,0:03:13.31,0:03:17.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then it becomes a problem,\Nbecause it turns it into a strangeness. Dialogue: 0,0:03:17.14,0:03:20.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because naturally you're detached from things. Dialogue: 0,0:03:20.14,0:03:25.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You come to satsang\Nand I'm teaching you something much more powerful Dialogue: 0,0:03:25.02,0:03:30.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and to bring awareness to something \Nthat's already natural for you. Dialogue: 0,0:03:30.09,0:03:36.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I want it to be natural for you\Neven with things that matter. Dialogue: 0,0:03:36.57,0:03:39.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] Yes, that's my problem. Dialogue: 0,0:03:39.01,0:03:44.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Mooji] Yeah, yeah, yeah. \NIt's a problem for everybody. Dialogue: 0,0:03:44.61,0:03:47.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,With things that don't matter,\Nno problem. Dialogue: 0,0:03:47.43,0:03:51.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You don't even have to say,\N'I'm going to be detached from that.' Dialogue: 0,0:03:51.22,0:03:54.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You don't even have to say that.\NYou don't have to think. Dialogue: 0,0:03:54.33,0:03:58.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You're just senses, eyes, life.\NYou meet these things. Nothing. Dialogue: 0,0:03:58.50,0:04:01.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just move through them. You retain your peace. Dialogue: 0,0:04:01.78,0:04:06.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But about the things that you say matter,\Nand what makes them matter? Dialogue: 0,0:04:06.06,0:04:10.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Let's slow down a bit and say,\Nwhat makes some things matter? Dialogue: 0,0:04:10.15,0:04:17.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's an open question.\NWhy do they matter? Dialogue: 0,0:04:17.16,0:04:21.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Some Dialogue: 0,0:04:21.01,0:04:23.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,relationship, some concepts, Dialogue: 0,0:04:23.77,0:04:26.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,OK, this is family, this is my job, Dialogue: 0,0:04:26.64,0:04:29.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this is my relationship,\Nand these things matter. Dialogue: 0,0:04:29.91,0:04:34.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So if somebody else's relationship \Nis in trouble, it's no problem for you. Dialogue: 0,0:04:34.58,0:04:38.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But if you have a relationship problem,\Nit matters for you. Dialogue: 0,0:04:38.66,0:04:43.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So what is this thing that I'm talking about,\Nto observe with detachment? Dialogue: 0,0:04:43.56,0:04:46.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's just a little step further\Nthan what I say, Dialogue: 0,0:04:46.94,0:04:50.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you walk through,\Nyou're naturally detached anyway. Dialogue: 0,0:04:50.07,0:04:54.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What I'm asking about, \Nlearning to observe with detachment, Dialogue: 0,0:04:54.56,0:04:58.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is to bring that detachment ... Dialogue: 0,0:04:58.50,0:05:04.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because whatever you see,\Nnothing sticks actually. A natural thing. Dialogue: 0,0:05:04.16,0:05:08.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But when things matter, your relationship, Dialogue: 0,0:05:08.46,0:05:11.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what you want, your work and so on, Dialogue: 0,0:05:11.89,0:05:15.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it creates a structure in your mind Dialogue: 0,0:05:15.75,0:05:19.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you have to take care of that. Dialogue: 0,0:05:19.46,0:05:23.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, I'm not going into all of these things. Dialogue: 0,0:05:23.36,0:05:28.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm saying that, \NOK, what is attachment, is to ... Dialogue: 0,0:05:30.30,0:05:36.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want you to be aware of a space within you, Dialogue: 0,0:05:36.55,0:05:45.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is not changed\Nby whatever is happening around you. Dialogue: 0,0:05:45.49,0:05:50.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's alive.\NIt's not dead, but it's not, Dialogue: 0,0:05:50.24,0:05:57.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's not attached\Nto the outcome of things so deeply. Dialogue: 0,0:05:57.37,0:06:04.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't know if I'm putting it right.\NI'm trying to find an example. Dialogue: 0,0:06:04.31,0:06:10.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] I feel like there is no space.\NIt's just all mind and identity. Dialogue: 0,0:06:10.10,0:06:12.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] If you are able to see mind, Dialogue: 0,0:06:12.68,0:06:16.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you must be looking from \Nsome place that's not mind. Dialogue: 0,0:06:16.38,0:06:20.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is true for everybody.\NJust you're not aware that it's like that. Dialogue: 0,0:06:20.86,0:06:26.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Actually, what I'm saying is \Nactually so powerfully true for you, Dialogue: 0,0:06:26.06,0:06:28.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when you're aware of it. Dialogue: 0,0:06:28.96,0:06:35.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And largely, the teachings\Nand the practice of what we do here Dialogue: 0,0:06:35.00,0:06:38.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is to make you more aware of something about you Dialogue: 0,0:06:38.55,0:06:41.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you're not so aware of, for everybody. Dialogue: 0,0:06:41.67,0:06:46.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And because we're not aware\Nin the place that you should be aware Dialogue: 0,0:06:46.04,0:06:48.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of your inmost being ... Dialogue: 0,0:06:48.27,0:06:50.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can't see that. Dialogue: 0,0:06:50.90,0:06:54.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's the other thing.\NEverything else you can see. Dialogue: 0,0:06:54.52,0:06:57.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Every relationship, every object you can see. Dialogue: 0,0:06:57.97,0:07:00.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Every thought you can remember, \Nyou can think. Dialogue: 0,0:07:00.82,0:07:05.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're all called 'other',\Neverything you can see. Dialogue: 0,0:07:05.69,0:07:08.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But your Self you cannot see! Dialogue: 0,0:07:08.57,0:07:10.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You get that? Dialogue: 0,0:07:10.63,0:07:15.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can say,\N'Oh, this is my body. This is my ring. Dialogue: 0,0:07:15.22,0:07:17.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is my house. This is my car.' Dialogue: 0,0:07:17.89,0:07:20.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My, my, my. This belongs to me. Dialogue: 0,0:07:20.96,0:07:23.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My, my, my. Everything belongs to you. Dialogue: 0,0:07:23.83,0:07:27.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is my family. This is my mother.\NThis is my house. Dialogue: 0,0:07:27.84,0:07:32.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is my country. This is my passport.\NThis is my birth certificate. Dialogue: 0,0:07:32.25,0:07:36.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All 'my', meaning they belong to you. Dialogue: 0,0:07:36.24,0:07:41.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But can you say, \NThis is my my? This is my me?' Dialogue: 0,0:07:41.86,0:07:47.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can't say, 'This is my me.'\NWhy? Dialogue: 0,0:07:47.74,0:07:50.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] Because I cannot see this. Dialogue: 0,0:07:50.86,0:07:54.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Yes.\NSo because you can't see it, Dialogue: 0,0:07:54.16,0:07:58.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] does it mean it's not there?\N[Q.1] No. Dialogue: 0,0:07:58.23,0:08:00.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Right.\NSo there's something in the world, Dialogue: 0,0:08:00.100,0:08:04.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,everything you can see,\Nbut something you cannot see. Dialogue: 0,0:08:04.61,0:08:08.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Everything you can see,\Nbut something you cannot see. Dialogue: 0,0:08:08.25,0:08:12.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And yet you cannot deny that it is real,\Nisn't it? Dialogue: 0,0:08:12.57,0:08:15.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know you are. Dialogue: 0,0:08:15.03,0:08:18.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, I'm going to zoom in a little bit closer Dialogue: 0,0:08:18.22,0:08:22.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in this feeling that, 'Yes, I know I am.' Dialogue: 0,0:08:24.61,0:08:27.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This thing which you cannot see, Dialogue: 0,0:08:27.79,0:08:32.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you say, 'You know it is here.'\NI mean, it's the first fact, Dialogue: 0,0:08:32.16,0:08:36.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because if it's not here,\Nnothing else is here, isn't it? Dialogue: 0,0:08:36.44,0:08:39.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But it cannot be seen, yeah? Dialogue: 0,0:08:40.83,0:08:44.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,OK, so we are back to this point. Dialogue: 0,0:08:44.38,0:08:48.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Everything you can see, everything; Dialogue: 0,0:08:48.21,0:08:54.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your thoughts, feelings, objects, people, Dialogue: 0,0:08:54.34,0:08:58.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your feelings,\Nall of these things, you can see. Dialogue: 0,0:08:58.77,0:09:04.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can even see\Nthe quality of your sight, isn't it? Dialogue: 0,0:09:04.24,0:09:07.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So if you went to the optician\Nand he says, Dialogue: 0,0:09:07.54,0:09:11.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'Could you tell me something, \Nwhy you come here?' Dialogue: 0,0:09:11.00,0:09:16.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You said, 'Actually, I'm not able to see \Nor focus on things so well.' Dialogue: 0,0:09:16.50,0:09:19.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He said, 'In both eyes?' Dialogue: 0,0:09:19.12,0:09:23.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You say, 'No, no, in the right eye.'\N'OK, tell me something.' Dialogue: 0,0:09:23.98,0:09:29.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You said, 'In the left eye, I can see \Nmaybe 80% of what it should be, Dialogue: 0,0:09:29.15,0:09:32.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but in the right eye it's like about 50.' Dialogue: 0,0:09:32.66,0:09:37.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So something must be seeing sight,\Nisn't it? Dialogue: 0,0:09:37.57,0:09:41.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The capacity is there.\NYou don't have to ask anybody. Dialogue: 0,0:09:41.20,0:09:45.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can see, yes,\Nsomething is aware of even the sight Dialogue: 0,0:09:45.51,0:09:48.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is not functioning well. Dialogue: 0,0:09:48.56,0:09:55.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So something must be behind even the sight. Dialogue: 0,0:09:55.40,0:09:59.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You're also aware of feelings,\Nemotion, Dialogue: 0,0:09:59.60,0:10:05.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sense of time. If somebody said,\N'Yesterday something happened', Dialogue: 0,0:10:05.37,0:10:09.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you're aware of what that means.\NEverything you're aware of. Dialogue: 0,0:10:09.33,0:10:12.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Everything you can see. Dialogue: 0,0:10:12.26,0:10:16.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But your Self, can you see? Dialogue: 0,0:10:16.04,0:10:19.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why? Dialogue: 0,0:10:19.51,0:10:23.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Your body you can see.\NYour body you can see. Dialogue: 0,0:10:23.26,0:10:27.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can see your smile.\NYou can see your body. Dialogue: 0,0:10:27.11,0:10:29.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can see everything. Dialogue: 0,0:10:29.95,0:10:36.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But your Self, \Nis seeing your body [seeing] your Self? Dialogue: 0,0:10:36.28,0:10:39.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why not? Dialogue: 0,0:10:43.66,0:10:46.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] Because something is aware of ...\N[M.] Yes. Dialogue: 0,0:10:46.71,0:10:49.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] ... of the body.\N[M.] Yes. Dialogue: 0,0:10:49.42,0:10:53.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That something which is aware of the body\Ncannot be seen. Dialogue: 0,0:10:53.19,0:10:56.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] You're saying, no?\N[Q.1] Yeah. Dialogue: 0,0:10:57.73,0:11:00.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Can it see sickness? Dialogue: 0,0:11:00.89,0:11:04.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It can know, 'I'm not feeling well'. Dialogue: 0,0:11:04.32,0:11:07.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'I'm not feeling ...'\NIt knows emotion. Dialogue: 0,0:11:07.37,0:11:10.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'I'm feeling a little a bit uncomfortable.' Dialogue: 0,0:11:10.86,0:11:14.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It sees everything.\NBut itself it cannot see. Dialogue: 0,0:11:14.61,0:11:17.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You're saying? Yeah. Dialogue: 0,0:11:17.60,0:11:23.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why can it see everything,\Nbut it cannot see itself? Dialogue: 0,0:11:26.86,0:11:30.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] This I don't know. Dialogue: 0,0:11:31.36,0:11:33.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] This which cannot ... Dialogue: 0,0:11:33.51,0:11:37.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can see everything,\Nbut you cannot see your Self. Dialogue: 0,0:11:37.85,0:11:40.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This which you cannot see, Dialogue: 0,0:11:40.70,0:11:45.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yet you cannot deny, this is your Self. Dialogue: 0,0:11:52.21,0:11:57.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Everything you can see,\Nyour feelings, thoughts, Dialogue: 0,0:11:57.26,0:12:00.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the function of intellect. Dialogue: 0,0:12:00.49,0:12:02.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Everything you can see. Dialogue: 0,0:12:02.67,0:12:06.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But that which is seeing them,\Nyou say, 'I can see.' [VERIFY] Dialogue: 0,0:12:06.96,0:12:11.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's sort of,\Nthe word 'I' represents this thing, Dialogue: 0,0:12:11.13,0:12:14.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it cannot be seen. Dialogue: 0,0:12:14.38,0:12:16.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Even your mother can come and say, Dialogue: 0,0:12:16.85,0:12:19.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'Darling, it's nice to see you.' Dialogue: 0,0:12:19.22,0:12:22.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What is the 'you' that she's seeing? Dialogue: 0,0:12:22.69,0:12:25.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] The body.\N[M.] The body. Dialogue: 0,0:12:25.10,0:12:29.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And she's seeing her affection,\Nher memory of you. Dialogue: 0,0:12:29.76,0:12:32.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All this she puts to become you. Dialogue: 0,0:12:32.19,0:12:35.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'Darling, it's so nice.\NI haven't seen you for a long time.' Dialogue: 0,0:12:35.94,0:12:39.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So whatever someone says,\N'It's good to see you. Dialogue: 0,0:12:39.28,0:12:42.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Where have you been? You put on weight'\Nor, 'You lost some.' Dialogue: 0,0:12:42.95,0:12:45.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All of this is to do with what? Dialogue: 0,0:12:45.23,0:12:49.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] Appearance.\N[M.] Your form and appearance, OK? Dialogue: 0,0:12:49.67,0:12:54.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] So, can she see You?\NCan you see You? Dialogue: 0,0:12:54.37,0:12:58.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is that scary? Dialogue: 0,0:12:58.41,0:13:03.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] No, it's not scary, but it's ... Dialogue: 0,0:13:03.65,0:13:06.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Something is missing or feels like ... Dialogue: 0,0:13:06.91,0:13:12.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] OK, take a moment \Nand think about what's missing. Dialogue: 0,0:13:16.13,0:13:20.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You cannot see your True Self. Dialogue: 0,0:13:20.37,0:13:25.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I also cannot see my True Self. Dialogue: 0,0:13:25.24,0:13:31.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why?\NBecause it's not an object. Dialogue: 0,0:13:31.02,0:13:35.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's not even a thought. Dialogue: 0,0:13:35.62,0:13:40.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] But you say to stay as this.\NBut ... [laughs] Dialogue: 0,0:13:40.16,0:13:44.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Well. OK. OK, thank you.\NI say to stay as this. Why? Dialogue: 0,0:13:44.74,0:13:50.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because, first of all,\Nyou imagine something else to be yourself. Dialogue: 0,0:13:50.70,0:13:55.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You call yourself a woman,\Na daughter, you're from this country, Dialogue: 0,0:13:55.25,0:13:58.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,my parents, I'm ... Whatever. Like this. Dialogue: 0,0:13:58.10,0:14:04.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we're used to associating some quality\Nthat represents you. Dialogue: 0,0:14:04.23,0:14:09.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But really, you're earlier than this,\Nin the purity. Dialogue: 0,0:14:09.14,0:14:12.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The one that is aware,\Nthat says ... Dialogue: 0,0:14:12.38,0:14:18.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You're talking on the phone,\N'I'm 27 years old. I've got two children. Dialogue: 0,0:14:18.04,0:14:22.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm married. I live in this place.' Dialogue: 0,0:14:22.34,0:14:25.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That one, is what? Dialogue: 0,0:14:25.24,0:14:27.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] Person.\N[M.] The person. Dialogue: 0,0:14:27.68,0:14:33.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is the person and the Self,\Nthe True Self, is the same thing? Dialogue: 0,0:14:33.15,0:14:36.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] No. Dialogue: 0,0:14:36.13,0:14:42.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Does that bring a feeling of discomfort? Dialogue: 0,0:14:42.58,0:14:47.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No. No. Because there's nothing \Nyou have to do to know that. Dialogue: 0,0:14:47.90,0:14:49.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You, something knows. Dialogue: 0,0:14:49.93,0:14:54.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yet most people in the world\Nhave not even looked like this. Dialogue: 0,0:14:54.03,0:14:57.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They have not even thought about this, Dialogue: 0,0:14:57.26,0:15:00.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because your world starts with your person. Dialogue: 0,0:15:00.65,0:15:03.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If I employ you, I look at you, I interview, Dialogue: 0,0:15:03.60,0:15:07.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I say, Tell me about yourself.\NYou say, 'I studied this in university. Dialogue: 0,0:15:07.81,0:15:10.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I lived in South Africa for a while. I travelled.' Dialogue: 0,0:15:10.84,0:15:15.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Information.\NInformation cannot be You. Dialogue: 0,0:15:15.10,0:15:22.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's about your person. \NWhich is, what is the person? Dialogue: 0,0:15:22.08,0:15:25.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] This identity is person.\N[M.] Yes, yes. Dialogue: 0,0:15:25.21,0:15:29.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Can you see the identity person? Dialogue: 0,0:15:29.00,0:15:33.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.] Yeah.\N[M.] What does it look like? Dialogue: 0,0:15:34.85,0:15:38.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] Some tightness, some attachment. Dialogue: 0,0:15:38.61,0:15:41.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Attachment.\N[Q.1] To ideas. Dialogue: 0,0:15:41.40,0:15:46.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Yes.\NAttachment to some ideas, OK? Dialogue: 0,0:15:46.10,0:15:50.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But the person is also an idea. Dialogue: 0,0:15:50.35,0:15:54.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] This is the problem,\Nbecause it really feels real. So, yeah. Dialogue: 0,0:15:54.75,0:15:59.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Because it is the feeling 'I' in you, Dialogue: 0,0:15:59.59,0:16:04.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this 'I', it says,\N'I see', 'I think', 'I ...' Da, da, da. Dialogue: 0,0:16:04.62,0:16:11.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Who is the 'I' that thinks.\NWe're not sure, the person or the real Self? Dialogue: 0,0:16:11.63,0:16:16.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'I want'.\N'Yes, I know.' Dialogue: 0,0:16:16.62,0:16:20.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Who is the 'I' that knows? Dialogue: 0,0:16:20.09,0:16:23.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is it personal or impersonal? Dialogue: 0,0:16:23.90,0:16:28.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] Personal.\N[M.] It's personal. OK, good! Dialogue: 0,0:16:28.31,0:16:33.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] What sees it's impersonal? Dialogue: 0,0:16:33.33,0:16:37.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] I don't know what.\NI know it's something is seen but ... [VERIFY VS SEEING?] Dialogue: 0,0:16:37.25,0:16:40.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Yes. It's the same answer. \NYou've given the answer already. Dialogue: 0,0:16:40.95,0:16:43.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It cannot be seen. Dialogue: 0,0:16:43.51,0:16:47.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is the most important discovery, Dialogue: 0,0:16:47.46,0:16:52.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because until you really\Nrealise this and know this, Dialogue: 0,0:16:52.23,0:16:56.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you take yourself to be an object\Nperceiving another object. Dialogue: 0,0:16:56.10,0:17:00.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The object being your person.\NAnd it's OK, it's OK. Dialogue: 0,0:17:00.12,0:17:04.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,God made it like that, \Nthat we would also be projected Dialogue: 0,0:17:04.17,0:17:07.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,into the world of thought \Nand feeling and association Dialogue: 0,0:17:07.96,0:17:10.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and say, 'This is me'.\NFor a while. Dialogue: 0,0:17:10.87,0:17:15.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But with this 'I', that works as the person, Dialogue: 0,0:17:15.75,0:17:21.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,its world and itself is never stable, Dialogue: 0,0:17:21.14,0:17:25.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because it has an identity. Dialogue: 0,0:17:25.12,0:17:30.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is the identity of the person\Nalways stable? No, no. Dialogue: 0,0:17:30.14,0:17:35.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But it tries with everything\Nto share that it is stable. Dialogue: 0,0:17:35.56,0:17:44.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because stable means, it's wise, it's real.\NIt's dependable. It's consistent. Dialogue: 0,0:17:44.20,0:17:46.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm just talking this through. Dialogue: 0,0:17:46.96,0:17:51.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I'm pointing to a deeper knowing \Nbehind this person Dialogue: 0,0:17:51.26,0:17:56.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that knows the person, that sees the person. Dialogue: 0,0:17:56.24,0:18:00.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That which is aware of the person ...\NYou're with me? Dialogue: 0,0:18:00.44,0:18:04.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is it attached to the person \Nor is the person attached to it? Dialogue: 0,0:18:04.41,0:18:07.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Take a moment. Dialogue: 0,0:18:11.07,0:18:15.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] It's not attached.\N[M.] It's not attached. Dialogue: 0,0:18:15.68,0:18:19.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Does it suffer from not being attached? Dialogue: 0,0:18:19.39,0:18:23.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] No. [laughs] Dialogue: 0,0:18:23.65,0:18:28.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] But I had to question you,\Nfor you to recede to that place, Dialogue: 0,0:18:28.34,0:18:30.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to say, 'It's not attached.' Dialogue: 0,0:18:30.86,0:18:33.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because where we are functioning, normally, Dialogue: 0,0:18:33.86,0:18:37.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is from the identity of the person,\Nwhich is attached. Dialogue: 0,0:18:37.60,0:18:40.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Which likes and dislikes. Dialogue: 0,0:18:40.04,0:18:42.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Who wants and doesn't want. Dialogue: 0,0:18:42.39,0:18:45.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Who thinks this and thinks that. Dialogue: 0,0:18:45.36,0:18:50.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And very much is in the function \Nof perceiving and living, no? Dialogue: 0,0:18:50.24,0:18:53.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, what I'm sharing,\Nis that, that's OK. Dialogue: 0,0:18:53.85,0:19:00.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But if you only are aware of yourself\Nas a person, with its world, Dialogue: 0,0:19:00.49,0:19:05.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you will never be totally happy.\NBecause it's not stable. Dialogue: 0,0:19:05.21,0:19:09.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Today, 'Ah, I'm so happy.\NI'm so ... Oh, so wonderful!' Dialogue: 0,0:19:09.22,0:19:13.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Tomorrow I see you ... [imitates struggling] Dialogue: 0,0:19:13.32,0:19:18.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I say, Mia, what's up?\N'It's OK, I don't want to talk about it.' Dialogue: 0,0:19:18.43,0:19:22.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Who is it, who is speaking? Person, no?\N[Q.1] Yes. Dialogue: 0,0:19:22.69,0:19:27.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] What does the Self say?\NWhat does the real Self say? Dialogue: 0,0:19:27.73,0:19:30.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is it important at all? Dialogue: 0,0:19:30.43,0:19:33.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] No. Is the Self important?\N[Q.1] No. Dialogue: 0,0:19:33.59,0:19:35.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] It's not important?\N[Q.1] No. Dialogue: 0,0:19:35.83,0:19:39.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Does that mean it's no good?\NIt's not significant? Dialogue: 0,0:19:39.79,0:19:43.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Self is not important?\NIt's not important? Dialogue: 0,0:19:43.96,0:19:47.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,OK, so what's the purpose\Nof it existing then? Dialogue: 0,0:19:47.47,0:19:50.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If other things after it are important,\Nlike the person; Dialogue: 0,0:19:50.80,0:19:54.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,personal identity is important,\Npersonal world is important, Dialogue: 0,0:19:54.36,0:19:56.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,personal attachment is important. Dialogue: 0,0:19:56.95,0:20:02.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But the one before all of this comes,\Nwhich cannot be removed, Dialogue: 0,0:20:02.52,0:20:06.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can the Self be killed? No. Dialogue: 0,0:20:06.57,0:20:14.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And you say, I like that, actually,\N'It's not important.' OK? Dialogue: 0,0:20:16.45,0:20:20.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] What is important? Dialogue: 0,0:20:20.71,0:20:25.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] I feel this exercise is important to do.\N[M.] Yes. Dialogue: 0,0:20:25.52,0:20:30.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Why is it important, the exercise? Dialogue: 0,0:20:33.75,0:20:36.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] To stabilise in this.\N[M.] Yes. Dialogue: 0,0:20:36.75,0:20:41.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Is it the Self, the inmost Self, \Nthat has to stabilise, Dialogue: 0,0:20:41.13,0:20:44.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] or something else has to stabilise?\N[Q.1] Something else. Dialogue: 0,0:20:44.87,0:20:46.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Right. Dialogue: 0,0:20:46.88,0:20:51.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why does it need to stabilise,\Nthe something else? Dialogue: 0,0:20:51.17,0:20:57.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] Not to get pulled into identity. Dialogue: 0,0:20:57.50,0:21:04.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Yes. What is it that gets pulled\Ninto identity, is it the Self? Dialogue: 0,0:21:04.26,0:21:08.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] Attention.\N[M.] Attention. Attention gets pulled. Dialogue: 0,0:21:08.32,0:21:11.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] So attention is very important.\N[Q.1] Yes. Dialogue: 0,0:21:11.77,0:21:15.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] When the attention gets pulled into identity, Dialogue: 0,0:21:15.95,0:21:18.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what knows it most deeply; Dialogue: 0,0:21:18.52,0:21:25.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the attention, the mind, the person, \Nor the inmost Self? Dialogue: 0,0:21:25.22,0:21:28.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] The Self. The inmost Self.\N[M.] The Self. Dialogue: 0,0:21:28.82,0:21:32.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Does it suffer?\N[Q.1] No. Dialogue: 0,0:21:32.03,0:21:34.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] No. Still it's important, Dialogue: 0,0:21:34.71,0:21:39.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because every time the attention \Ngoes out and forgets itself, Dialogue: 0,0:21:39.32,0:21:43.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] it forgets where it comes from.\N[Q.1] Yeah. [laughs] Dialogue: 0,0:21:43.27,0:21:48.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Every time the attention goes out,\Ngets involved in its projections, Dialogue: 0,0:21:48.36,0:21:50.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it causes some pain. Dialogue: 0,0:21:50.43,0:21:55.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It creates a kind of a world,\Nit creates emotion, Dialogue: 0,0:21:55.10,0:21:58.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it creates ups and downs, like this. Dialogue: 0,0:21:58.36,0:22:01.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And something is troubled by that. Dialogue: 0,0:22:01.32,0:22:04.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Maybe the person is troubled by that. Dialogue: 0,0:22:04.70,0:22:08.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And in our world, \Neverything is due to the person. Dialogue: 0,0:22:08.06,0:22:11.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's the person that takes \Nanother person to court. Dialogue: 0,0:22:11.29,0:22:16.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's the person that wins or lose.\NWhat about the Self? Dialogue: 0,0:22:18.35,0:22:21.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] Nothing. [laughs]\N[M.] Is it important to know this? Dialogue: 0,0:22:21.78,0:22:24.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] Yeah.\N[M.] Yeah. Dialogue: 0,0:22:24.27,0:22:29.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,OK, so when we speak about ...\NI'll come back to your letter now. Dialogue: 0,0:22:29.23,0:22:35.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You say, 'I don't know\Nhow to observe with detachment'. Dialogue: 0,0:22:35.94,0:22:40.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Does the Self need to know \Nhow to observe with detachment? Dialogue: 0,0:22:40.86,0:22:45.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Questioner shakes head, no]\N[M.] Why? Dialogue: 0,0:22:45.18,0:22:50.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] It doesn't need anything.\N[M.] It doesn't need anything. Dialogue: 0,0:22:50.23,0:22:53.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Yet everything is known to it. Dialogue: 0,0:22:53.95,0:22:57.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The play of the mind, \Nor da da da da, it knows, Dialogue: 0,0:22:57.82,0:23:02.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] but it's not impacted upon.\N[Q.1] No. Dialogue: 0,0:23:02.85,0:23:09.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] There is a link between \Nthe sense of the person and the inner Self. Dialogue: 0,0:23:09.50,0:23:16.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When the person,\Nwho cannot exist without the inner Self, Dialogue: 0,0:23:16.40,0:23:22.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when it gets into states of confusion and pain, Dialogue: 0,0:23:22.92,0:23:26.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if it doesn't realise its root as the inner Self, Dialogue: 0,0:23:26.79,0:23:29.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it goes floating off and trouble can come. Dialogue: 0,0:23:29.60,0:23:33.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Mental problems can come.\NSickness can come. Anger can come. Dialogue: 0,0:23:33.45,0:23:35.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Fear comes. Everything comes. Dialogue: 0,0:23:35.52,0:23:39.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it's very important that \Nthis personal sense Dialogue: 0,0:23:39.27,0:23:41.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,becomes aware of its root. Dialogue: 0,0:23:41.81,0:23:47.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] Yes, and when I try\Nto do this exercise, I cannot come to this. Dialogue: 0,0:23:47.96,0:23:53.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Who is doing the exercise?\N[Q.1] Yes, the mind and the person Dialogue: 0,0:23:53.03,0:23:58.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] and the one who wants to stop suffering.\N[M.] Right. Dialogue: 0,0:23:58.12,0:24:01.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] What knows this? Dialogue: 0,0:24:03.93,0:24:08.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What is aware of this?\NIs it the person-mind or the inner Self? Dialogue: 0,0:24:08.52,0:24:12.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] The inner Self.\N[M.] Yeah. Is the inner Self troubled? Dialogue: 0,0:24:12.31,0:24:14.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] No. Dialogue: 0,0:24:14.42,0:24:18.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Still, the exercise is good,\Nbecause this is the real yoga. Dialogue: 0,0:24:18.86,0:24:22.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yoga means the coming together into oneness, Dialogue: 0,0:24:22.91,0:24:28.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where the sense of the person \Nhas to rediscover its root. Dialogue: 0,0:24:28.97,0:24:32.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The person cannot live by itself. Dialogue: 0,0:24:32.11,0:24:37.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Even when it's not aware of the Self,\Nit still comes from the Self. Dialogue: 0,0:24:37.69,0:24:43.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So largely the human expression \Nof the consciousness self Dialogue: 0,0:24:43.07,0:24:46.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is self-aware as a person. Dialogue: 0,0:24:46.52,0:24:51.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so it can go for lifetimes,\Nin the human lifetime, living the person, Dialogue: 0,0:24:51.10,0:24:55.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because it's a big world, its dreams,\Nand 'I have to go do this. Dialogue: 0,0:24:55.16,0:25:00.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I like this, I don't like that,' and da da da.\NMaybe life after life. Dialogue: 0,0:25:00.09,0:25:03.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'This life I love, I love ice cream. \NI'd die for ice cream.' Dialogue: 0,0:25:03.77,0:25:09.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Next life, 'I can't stand ice cream.'\NThere's nothing consistent about it. Dialogue: 0,0:25:09.16,0:25:13.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Except that it cannot exist \Nwithout the real Self. Dialogue: 0,0:25:13.57,0:25:16.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it has intelligence also. Dialogue: 0,0:25:16.11,0:25:21.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, when it happens to this personal self, Dialogue: 0,0:25:21.63,0:25:25.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for some reason, \Nit's being attracted to find out that Dialogue: 0,0:25:25.48,0:25:28.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,maybe it suffers enough in the world Dialogue: 0,0:25:28.13,0:25:31.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it wants to find a solution for it. Dialogue: 0,0:25:31.49,0:25:37.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the only solid solution \Nis to discover where it comes from, Dialogue: 0,0:25:37.27,0:25:42.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that where it comes from and itself,\Nare one. Dialogue: 0,0:25:42.30,0:25:44.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's what the search of life is. Dialogue: 0,0:25:44.72,0:25:49.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because all beings who are not aware\Nof this oneness with the Self, Dialogue: 0,0:25:49.43,0:25:54.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all of them suffer. All have problems. You see? Dialogue: 0,0:25:54.65,0:25:58.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So this is the purpose of our satsang, Dialogue: 0,0:25:58.84,0:26:03.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that the consciousness,\Nin the form of a person, Dialogue: 0,0:26:03.41,0:26:05.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,becomes attracted to its root, Dialogue: 0,0:26:05.93,0:26:09.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and not just attracted \Nto the world in front of it. Dialogue: 0,0:26:09.57,0:26:14.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so this exercise, like detachment,\Nmeaning that whatever is going on, Dialogue: 0,0:26:14.89,0:26:19.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to go in the world, to do,\Nthe this, and self-image, Dialogue: 0,0:26:19.39,0:26:24.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,self-image, self-assessments, Dialogue: 0,0:26:24.10,0:26:29.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all of this is a play of the mind,\Nis mind states. Dialogue: 0,0:26:29.34,0:26:35.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it has to realise that \Nall states are changeful, OK? Dialogue: 0,0:26:35.65,0:26:41.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that it can witness them,\Nit can observe them, without being them. Dialogue: 0,0:26:41.02,0:26:46.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In fact, you can only observe something,\Nbecause you're not it, actually. Dialogue: 0,0:26:46.21,0:26:53.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that there's a capacity, \Neven in the person, to observe, Dialogue: 0,0:26:53.88,0:26:59.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and in observing them it knows\Nthat it's not them. Dialogue: 0,0:26:59.11,0:27:03.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that characteristic is like its parent. Dialogue: 0,0:27:03.72,0:27:07.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You see, the person,\Nthe characteristic of looking and realising that, Dialogue: 0,0:27:07.99,0:27:14.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'Whatever I see is only\Nan impression, a thought, a feeling, Dialogue: 0,0:27:14.68,0:27:19.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it's not what I am,'\Nthat's called {\i1}awakening{\i0} Dialogue: 0,0:27:19.15,0:27:22.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's waking up to the fact that nothing out here Dialogue: 0,0:27:22.68,0:27:26.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,comes through the mind or the senses,\Nnothing of there Dialogue: 0,0:27:26.53,0:27:30.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can be fundamental to me.\NAll of it is changing. Dialogue: 0,0:27:30.14,0:27:36.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And even myself as the person \Nwho is looking and knowing this, Dialogue: 0,0:27:36.07,0:27:40.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is like on the verge of this way - world - Dialogue: 0,0:27:40.39,0:27:43.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this way - into the abyss of the Self. Dialogue: 0,0:27:43.27,0:27:46.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because it has a capacity\Nthat when it looks Dialogue: 0,0:27:46.40,0:27:51.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it is not identified\Nwith what it sees or what it experiences, OK? Dialogue: 0,0:27:51.74,0:27:56.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And each thing comes, like life is saying,\N'This thing and this thing'. Dialogue: 0,0:27:56.04,0:28:00.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it's saying,\N'No, it's not this. What I am is not this'. Dialogue: 0,0:28:00.14,0:28:03.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As you keep doing that,\Nit naturally comes back Dialogue: 0,0:28:03.60,0:28:07.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to its original Self-awareness. Dialogue: 0,0:28:07.49,0:28:10.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I say, Self-awareness,\Nnon-dual Self-awareness, Dialogue: 0,0:28:10.94,0:28:14.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like not one thing, not a divided union, Dialogue: 0,0:28:14.50,0:28:18.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but a harmony,\Nit comes back into realising, Dialogue: 0,0:28:18.02,0:28:21.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'But here nothing is happening to me.' Dialogue: 0,0:28:21.73,0:28:25.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When I go into the mind,\Ninto identity, Dialogue: 0,0:28:25.14,0:28:28.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then happenings become relevant. Dialogue: 0,0:28:28.52,0:28:33.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But if I even can observe \Nand be aware of even my person, Dialogue: 0,0:28:33.25,0:28:37.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is like my person is like the.... Dialogue: 0,0:28:37.74,0:28:42.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What you call this?\NThe binoculars that see the world, Dialogue: 0,0:28:42.84,0:28:45.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but the person who sees the world Dialogue: 0,0:28:45.49,0:28:48.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is also seen from the place of the Self. Dialogue: 0,0:28:48.38,0:28:54.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When it knows this,\Nit's coming back into conscious harmony. Dialogue: 0,0:28:54.05,0:28:57.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's all the thing of detachment is. Dialogue: 0,0:28:57.08,0:29:00.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You don't have to kill anything.\NIt's just understanding. Dialogue: 0,0:29:00.94,0:29:04.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The realisation of the Self \Nis a journey of understanding, Dialogue: 0,0:29:04.93,0:29:08.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and understanding your misunderstanding.\NSo it's simple. Dialogue: 0,0:29:08.94,0:29:12.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Unless we get it, it might seem,\N'It's the most complex thing'. Dialogue: 0,0:29:12.66,0:29:15.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why?\NBecause you're not used to doing it. Dialogue: 0,0:29:15.12,0:29:18.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Each one is used to looking forward,\Nlooking outward. Dialogue: 0,0:29:18.71,0:29:23.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Even sometimes when you think \Nwe're looking inward into our mind, Dialogue: 0,0:29:23.08,0:29:25.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's still outward from the inner Self. Dialogue: 0,0:29:25.80,0:29:30.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] Yes, and this happens a lot,\Nbecause I go in, Dialogue: 0,0:29:30.30,0:29:33.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then it's the body.\NI cannot go beyond. Dialogue: 0,0:29:33.38,0:29:36.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Oh, you're in the body-mind? Dialogue: 0,0:29:36.08,0:29:39.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But something behind that\Nknows this thing. Dialogue: 0,0:29:39.78,0:29:44.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The mind cannot make an ultimate realisation Dialogue: 0,0:29:44.48,0:29:48.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,without becoming the realisation. Dialogue: 0,0:29:48.41,0:29:53.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The mind or the person \Ncannot come to ultimate realisation Dialogue: 0,0:29:53.86,0:29:58.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and remain independent of that realisation. Dialogue: 0,0:29:58.05,0:30:04.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The more it becomes aware, \Nthe more it finds it is. Not that it has. Dialogue: 0,0:30:04.67,0:30:08.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this is very significant thing. Dialogue: 0,0:30:08.45,0:30:13.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Nobody can {\i1}have{\i0} the realisation\Nand be somebody who {\i1}has{\i0} realisation. Dialogue: 0,0:30:13.66,0:30:17.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What it means is that, the idea of yourself Dialogue: 0,0:30:17.31,0:30:21.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as being only the person,\Nsubsides again, and is seen, Dialogue: 0,0:30:21.46,0:30:26.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it is seen\Nas also the most subtle object. Dialogue: 0,0:30:26.19,0:30:31.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This subtle object of a person \Nis behaving like a subject, Dialogue: 0,0:30:31.10,0:30:34.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that everything in its world\Nis the object. Dialogue: 0,0:30:34.46,0:30:38.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But to the Self, it also is the first object. Dialogue: 0,0:30:38.19,0:30:44.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The first object shines as this feeling 'I',\N'I am here'. Dialogue: 0,0:30:44.62,0:30:48.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, 'Mia!' 'Yes, I'm here.'\NWhat it means, 'I am here'? Dialogue: 0,0:30:48.66,0:30:53.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The reference normally is,\N'Look, I'm over here'. Dialogue: 0,0:30:53.03,0:30:56.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this is OK, this is normal, \Nthis is the only place Dialogue: 0,0:30:56.39,0:30:59.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where language can exist, in that way. Dialogue: 0,0:30:59.09,0:31:02.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The language is for the sense of the person Dialogue: 0,0:31:02.18,0:31:06.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,having relationship with what it likes or dislikes. Dialogue: 0,0:31:06.81,0:31:10.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Actually,\Nthere's nothing wrong with this, ultimately. Dialogue: 0,0:31:10.26,0:31:15.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because even as you wake up\Nagain to realise that, whatever happens, Dialogue: 0,0:31:15.56,0:31:20.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's seen from this place.\NBut this place cannot be seen, Dialogue: 0,0:31:20.10,0:31:23.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that I can only really be this place. Dialogue: 0,0:31:23.73,0:31:27.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then when you really know this,\Nthe dynamic expression of this, Dialogue: 0,0:31:27.74,0:31:31.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is like of being a person,\Nthat can still play, Dialogue: 0,0:31:31.27,0:31:34.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it won't have that delusion in it. Dialogue: 0,0:31:34.65,0:31:38.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] Yes. This delusion has to go. Dialogue: 0,0:31:38.65,0:31:41.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] No, it needs to be understood. Dialogue: 0,0:31:41.74,0:31:44.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It doesn't need to go.\NWhy it needs to go? Dialogue: 0,0:31:44.60,0:31:47.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because you are combining it with your identity Dialogue: 0,0:31:47.78,0:31:50.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it hurts like, 'No, no, no, no'. Dialogue: 0,0:31:50.36,0:31:53.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But all this now, \Nyou're going to see all of this Dialogue: 0,0:31:53.49,0:31:56.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are constructs of the mind. Dialogue: 0,0:31:56.45,0:32:00.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the self is just a psychological portrait Dialogue: 0,0:32:00.51,0:32:03.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the mind, of the person. Dialogue: 0,0:32:03.14,0:32:07.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But the inner being, which has no shape,\Nyou can't identify and say, Dialogue: 0,0:32:07.75,0:32:11.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'Ah, I found the inner being.' \NYou cannot do that. Dialogue: 0,0:32:11.24,0:32:17.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because anything you can do that with,\Nis an object in the perception. Dialogue: 0,0:32:17.65,0:32:20.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] You got it, isn't it?\N[Q.1] Yes. Dialogue: 0,0:32:20.92,0:32:25.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] OK. So, prove your problem.\NGo on. Dialogue: 0,0:32:41.72,0:32:45.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] You see, you will need to sit with this,\Nmore and more. Dialogue: 0,0:32:45.96,0:32:51.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because it's like shape shifting.\NOne minute you think you're looking Dialogue: 0,0:32:51.03,0:32:55.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the next minute you're involved, invested. Dialogue: 0,0:32:55.11,0:33:02.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Don't get angry about this,\Nbecause it's been happening for lifetimes. Dialogue: 0,0:33:02.17,0:33:04.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, let it happen, it's OK. Dialogue: 0,0:33:04.43,0:33:09.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just keep seeing, but wait a minute, \Nthis can be seen also. Dialogue: 0,0:33:09.70,0:33:14.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The most intimate \Nis also an object of perception. Dialogue: 0,0:33:14.00,0:33:18.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The most intimate, \Nbecause 'intimate' means at least two. Dialogue: 0,0:33:18.76,0:33:22.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If there's not two, there's no intimate. Dialogue: 0,0:33:27.76,0:33:33.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Can you be confused, 'you',\Nin the light of what I'm sharing? Dialogue: 0,0:33:33.90,0:33:36.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] No, no.\N[M.] Thank you. Dialogue: 0,0:33:36.51,0:33:39.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] But you can be aware of confusion. Dialogue: 0,0:33:39.83,0:33:44.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you can be aware of confusion \Nwithout identifying with confusion, Dialogue: 0,0:33:44.73,0:33:47.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are you cheating? Dialogue: 0,0:33:47.36,0:33:50.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] No, no. [laughs] Dialogue: 0,0:33:52.06,0:33:54.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Very good. Dialogue: 0,0:33:56.65,0:34:02.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So let's start again from the beginning.\NWhat's your problem? Dialogue: 0,0:34:09.46,0:34:16.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] That when I do this exercise,\NI believe I need to find something. Dialogue: 0,0:34:16.13,0:34:20.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] 'I' being what?\NQualify your status. Dialogue: 0,0:34:20.67,0:34:22.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] The person. Dialogue: 0,0:34:22.69,0:34:26.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] When the person do the exercise?\NOK. Dialogue: 0,0:34:26.19,0:34:31.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's another word for person \Nin this exercise, Dialogue: 0,0:34:31.12,0:34:33.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would call it, Dialogue: 0,0:34:33.95,0:34:42.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when the personalised intelligence of the truth, Dialogue: 0,0:34:42.27,0:34:47.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when the personal intelligence of God Dialogue: 0,0:34:47.84,0:34:54.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,gets confused with its projections,\Nthen it's like, it's lost to itself. Dialogue: 0,0:34:54.62,0:34:57.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's like it's lost to itself. Dialogue: 0,0:34:57.15,0:35:01.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When that loss to itself becomes painful, Dialogue: 0,0:35:01.75,0:35:07.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you're on the brink of awakening.\NYou understand? Dialogue: 0,0:35:07.28,0:35:12.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because if you're not troubled by it,\Nthen you will not go beyond it. Dialogue: 0,0:35:12.02,0:35:16.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] When it's just pain, pain, pain.\N[laughs] Dialogue: 0,0:35:16.93,0:35:22.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] 'No pain, no gain,' they say.\NYou have to ... Dialogue: 0,0:35:22.23,0:35:27.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's like, in a way, \Nyou're giving birth to yourself. Dialogue: 0,0:35:27.78,0:35:35.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] Because I sit and I do,\Nbut I feel like there is no result. Dialogue: 0,0:35:35.21,0:35:39.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] You, again,\Nwho is sitting and looking, is what? Dialogue: 0,0:35:39.45,0:35:42.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] The person. [laughs] Dialogue: 0,0:35:44.79,0:35:48.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Does it matter that \Nwe're catching it like that? Dialogue: 0,0:35:48.01,0:35:50.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That it's the person doing it, Dialogue: 0,0:35:50.43,0:35:53.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that what the person cries about today, Dialogue: 0,0:35:53.14,0:35:56.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,laughs about another moment.\NThat it's not consistent. Dialogue: 0,0:35:56.80,0:36:00.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And even if it says, 'Eureka, I found the Self!'\NCan it be true? Dialogue: 0,0:36:00.95,0:36:03.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] No.\N[M.] Why not? Dialogue: 0,0:36:03.35,0:36:06.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] Because it cannot be seen. Dialogue: 0,0:36:06.84,0:36:10.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And if it lends to some illusion of ... Dialogue: 0,0:36:10.43,0:36:14.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] So then what's the practice for? Dialogue: 0,0:36:18.09,0:36:23.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] To become aware of all these ... Dialogue: 0,0:36:27.53,0:36:31.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] ... wrong ideas. Dialogue: 0,0:36:31.47,0:36:34.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Yes, that's one way we can put it. Dialogue: 0,0:36:34.35,0:36:37.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Tell me another way we can put it. \NThat's good. Dialogue: 0,0:36:37.14,0:36:41.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I take that, to become aware \Nof all these kind of little, Dialogue: 0,0:36:41.17,0:36:46.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all these little kind of distortions \Nof understanding, Dialogue: 0,0:36:46.60,0:36:51.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to become aware of them.\NBut more subtle than that. Dialogue: 0,0:36:51.01,0:36:56.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,By becoming aware of them,\Nyou become aware of what? Dialogue: 0,0:36:56.58,0:37:01.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] Of that which is seeing.\N[M.] Is seeing, yeah. Dialogue: 0,0:37:01.46,0:37:06.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How can you become,\Nbe aware of it phenomenally? Dialogue: 0,0:37:06.92,0:37:10.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Can you become aware of it phenomenally? Dialogue: 0,0:37:10.07,0:37:11.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] No.\N[M.] No. Dialogue: 0,0:37:11.83,0:37:15.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] So therefore,\Nyou become aware of what? Dialogue: 0,0:37:15.44,0:37:20.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] It feels like it's just moments\Nof this awareness. Dialogue: 0,0:37:20.60,0:37:24.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Yeah. It will flicker before, \Nbecause you're not used to it. Dialogue: 0,0:37:24.77,0:37:27.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The reflex is used to going out\Nand connecting Dialogue: 0,0:37:27.97,0:37:31.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with objects of projections \Nand perception, used to that. Dialogue: 0,0:37:31.42,0:37:35.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But now I'm asking you to ... \NAll this is happening for everyone. Dialogue: 0,0:37:35.68,0:37:38.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And even the one who says,\N'But this is happening to me, Dialogue: 0,0:37:38.98,0:37:42.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I find it frustrating!'\NWith where I'm asking you to do, Dialogue: 0,0:37:42.86,0:37:47.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is to see that that also \Nis an aspect of the mind. Dialogue: 0,0:37:47.47,0:37:52.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But all of these aspects, they came originally Dialogue: 0,0:37:52.06,0:37:56.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from out of this projection, forward.\NCan you see? Dialogue: 0,0:37:56.36,0:37:58.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] Yeah.\N[M.] Yeah. Dialogue: 0,0:37:58.94,0:38:06.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] And that the real opportunity \Nis in seeing this. Dialogue: 0,0:38:06.24,0:38:11.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But still something is feeling,\N'No, but mind is still troubling'. Dialogue: 0,0:38:11.29,0:38:15.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No, don't worry.\NIt's troubling who? Dialogue: 0,0:38:15.32,0:38:19.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Who is the mind troubling? Dialogue: 0,0:38:19.88,0:38:23.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] We can say together after three: 1, 2, 3 ...\N[Q.1] No one. Dialogue: 0,0:38:23.75,0:38:27.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] The person. Oh, no one!\NOh, you beat me to it! Dialogue: 0,0:38:27.20,0:38:31.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's troubling no one!\NIt's troubling no one. Dialogue: 0,0:38:31.02,0:38:36.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's a better answer than the person.\NYou see this? Dialogue: 0,0:38:36.06,0:38:38.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] Yeah.\N[M.] OK. Dialogue: 0,0:38:40.51,0:38:43.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] So now what? Dialogue: 0,0:38:47.39,0:38:51.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's enough or not enough? Dialogue: 0,0:38:54.26,0:38:57.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] I don't know. Dialogue: 0,0:38:57.21,0:39:03.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Who is saying? Who is ...?\NWhere is this answer coming from? Dialogue: 0,0:39:06.75,0:39:10.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I can accept it, or I can question it,\N'I don't know.' Dialogue: 0,0:39:10.59,0:39:14.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'I', who don't know? Dialogue: 0,0:39:14.87,0:39:18.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] It's the person.\N[M.] It's the person. Dialogue: 0,0:39:18.50,0:39:21.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Yeah, sure?\N[Q.1] No. [laughs] Dialogue: 0,0:39:21.52,0:39:25.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] It can be from the person.\NIf you say it's from the person, OK, Dialogue: 0,0:39:25.88,0:39:29.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then I would say,\NYou give me one more move. Dialogue: 0,0:39:29.22,0:39:34.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But what's aware\Nthat it's coming from the person? Dialogue: 0,0:39:34.20,0:39:39.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] Yes.\NSomething feels like it's not satisfied, Dialogue: 0,0:39:39.19,0:39:45.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I should not go after this. Dialogue: 0,0:39:45.31,0:39:49.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Yes.\NThis is a powerful seeing, Dialogue: 0,0:39:49.01,0:39:52.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'Something feels not satisfied.' Dialogue: 0,0:39:52.04,0:39:57.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That which feels not satisfied,\Nis it personal or impersonal? Dialogue: 0,0:39:57.23,0:40:00.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] It's personal.\N[M.] Personal. Dialogue: 0,0:40:00.49,0:40:04.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] You see, if that gets you each time,\Nlike the person goes, Dialogue: 0,0:40:04.60,0:40:09.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'I know, Guruji, but you know, I can't get ...'\NWho's speaking? Dialogue: 0,0:40:09.69,0:40:12.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] Person.\N[M.] Yeah. Dialogue: 0,0:40:12.31,0:40:15.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] So we will finish on that note? Dialogue: 0,0:40:15.26,0:40:22.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] Uh, person? No. [laughs]\N[M.] Thank you, OK. Where? Dialogue: 0,0:40:29.12,0:40:33.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] What does finish mean? Dialogue: 0,0:40:33.51,0:40:37.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] Just this conversation.\NFinish the conversation. Dialogue: 0,0:40:37.90,0:40:43.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] The conversation can finish \Nin its oral manifestation. Dialogue: 0,0:40:43.50,0:40:46.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It may go to be\Nsome kind of little stuff Dialogue: 0,0:40:46.57,0:40:49.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the mind that feels like,\N'Yeah, I don't know. Dialogue: 0,0:40:49.82,0:40:53.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had a talk with Mooji,\Nand it was really clear, Dialogue: 0,0:40:53.12,0:40:56.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but now it's not clear.'\NIs a report from? Dialogue: 0,0:40:56.05,0:40:58.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] The mind.\N[M.] From the mind. Dialogue: 0,0:40:58.23,0:41:02.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] And it is that ultimate?\N[Q.1] No. Dialogue: 0,0:41:02.22,0:41:06.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] No.\NWhat is ultimate? Dialogue: 0,0:41:06.20,0:41:09.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] That which is aware of this. Dialogue: 0,0:41:09.61,0:41:12.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Yes, yes. Dialogue: 0,0:41:12.03,0:41:15.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Which is where? Dialogue: 0,0:41:15.62,0:41:18.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] It's nowhere. Dialogue: 0,0:41:18.66,0:41:22.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Why are you smiling? \N[Questioner laughs] Dialogue: 0,0:41:28.46,0:41:34.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] So, you have a problem? Dialogue: 0,0:41:34.00,0:41:37.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] No. \N[both laugh] Dialogue: 0,0:41:37.39,0:41:42.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Can you, from this place of answering,\Never have a problem? Dialogue: 0,0:41:42.67,0:41:45.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] No. No. Dialogue: 0,0:41:50.92,0:41:55.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Are you sad or happy about this? Dialogue: 0,0:41:59.54,0:42:02.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] Nothing.\N[M.] Very good. Dialogue: 0,0:42:04.71,0:42:09.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] More subtle than even happy. Dialogue: 0,0:42:13.28,0:42:17.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Yeah.\NWe're good? Dialogue: 0,0:42:19.39,0:42:23.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] If you go walking \Nand the mind comes again and says, Dialogue: 0,0:42:23.34,0:42:26.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'I can't remember anything about that.' Dialogue: 0,0:42:26.85,0:42:31.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'I'm going to try and see\Nif I can get that mood back.' Was it a mood? Dialogue: 0,0:42:31.33,0:42:33.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] No.\N[M.] It's not a mood. Dialogue: 0,0:42:33.99,0:42:37.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Can you lose this? Dialogue: 0,0:42:38.46,0:42:40.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] No.\N[M.] No. Dialogue: 0,0:42:42.22,0:42:46.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Can you possess this?\N[Q.1] No. Dialogue: 0,0:42:49.40,0:42:52.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Very good. Dialogue: 0,0:42:56.23,0:42:59.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] I'm happy. Very good. Dialogue: 0,0:42:59.15,0:43:02.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, the rest I don't have to read, no? Dialogue: 0,0:43:02.44,0:43:06.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'I don't know how to be awar\Nthat I am aware.' Dialogue: 0,0:43:06.78,0:43:08.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Questioner laughs] Dialogue: 0,0:43:08.98,0:43:14.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'I still see this 'I'-identity as real.\NPlease help, Mia.' Dialogue: 0,0:43:14.67,0:43:17.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Do we need?\N[Q.1] No. Dialogue: 0,0:43:17.01,0:43:21.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M,] Very good. Can I keep it?\N[Q.1] Yes. I mean, throw it. Dialogue: 0,0:43:21.80,0:43:25.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Throw it, keep it.\NI'm happy you're like this. It's good. Dialogue: 0,0:43:25.55,0:43:31.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] You don't need to keep it.\N[M.] Because this [the letter], Dialogue: 0,0:43:31.24,0:43:37.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I call it an auspicious reaching out \Nto clarify something. Dialogue: 0,0:43:37.15,0:43:42.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And to that extent, it's very ... Dialogue: 0,0:43:42.04,0:43:45.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, it's not a game. Dialogue: 0,0:43:45.05,0:43:50.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We can say it is like a game,\Nbut it's not a cynical game. Dialogue: 0,0:43:50.49,0:43:57.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's, you may say, a game or a play or Dialogue: 0,0:43:57.04,0:44:02.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,something that needs to happen Dialogue: 0,0:44:02.10,0:44:06.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the human expression of consciousness, Dialogue: 0,0:44:06.16,0:44:11.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when it comes to a stage\Nwhere its world is not working. Dialogue: 0,0:44:11.04,0:44:14.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I don't see that as a disaster. Dialogue: 0,0:44:14.17,0:44:17.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I see it as opportunity \Nto look behind the scene. Dialogue: 0,0:44:17.94,0:44:23.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] Yes, yes.\NI want to take every opportunity to look. Dialogue: 0,0:44:23.01,0:44:26.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] OK. Now? Right now? Dialogue: 0,0:44:26.71,0:44:30.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] Always, yes, now.\N[M.] Yes. OK. Dialogue: 0,0:44:30.60,0:44:33.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Do you need to look further now? Dialogue: 0,0:44:33.89,0:44:36.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] I can do, yes.\N[M.] Yes. Dialogue: 0,0:44:36.79,0:44:40.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Yes. Good.\N[Q.1] Yes, yes. [laughs] Dialogue: 0,0:44:40.27,0:44:44.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Thank you. Very good. Dialogue: 0,0:44:47.42,0:44:50.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And you don't need to talk \Nto anybody about it. Dialogue: 0,0:44:50.44,0:44:53.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just you sit with that, and watch. Dialogue: 0,0:44:53.88,0:45:00.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And however tricky the mind can be,\Nyou remember, it is secondary. Dialogue: 0,0:45:00.52,0:45:03.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That which is primary, is seeing that. Dialogue: 0,0:45:03.95,0:45:08.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the mind can come in the form \Nof thought or moods or sensation, Dialogue: 0,0:45:08.40,0:45:11.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it can appear like confusion, Dialogue: 0,0:45:11.22,0:45:16.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it appears as identity, \Nbut it's still only appearing. Dialogue: 0,0:45:16.11,0:45:19.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Can the Self appear? Dialogue: 0,0:45:19.66,0:45:21.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No. Dialogue: 0,0:45:21.89,0:45:26.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it causes the appearing \Nof the mind play and the diversity, Dialogue: 0,0:45:26.86,0:45:32.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it itself is indescribable, actually. Dialogue: 0,0:45:34.33,0:45:39.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So at this point I would say, \Nsit and contemplate that. Dialogue: 0,0:45:39.04,0:45:41.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's all you have to do. Dialogue: 0,0:45:41.26,0:45:47.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You see, it sounds as though\Nfrom what you write, somebody might think, Dialogue: 0,0:45:47.06,0:45:51.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'Wow, I feel she's in real trouble.'\NBut for me, I say, what an opportunity, Dialogue: 0,0:45:51.74,0:45:55.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I got to find out from you,\Nwe can look together. Dialogue: 0,0:45:55.35,0:45:58.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it's all in you. It's all you. Dialogue: 0,0:46:01.98,0:46:04.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Very good. Dialogue: 0,0:46:05.16,0:46:08.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Would you like some tea?\NAre you OK? Dialogue: 0,0:46:08.27,0:46:12.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] I think there's food waiting for me.\N[M.] Go eat, it's cold. Dialogue: 0,0:46:12.52,0:46:18.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] That's the only food that's worth\Neating cold right now. Dialogue: 0,0:46:18.04,0:46:23.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Thank you. Wonderful, darling.\NThank you, thank you, thank you, Dialogue: 0,0:46:23.73,0:46:28.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] Thank you.\N[M.] Yes. See you in a bit. Dialogue: 0,0:46:28.15,0:46:32.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] OK. OK. \N[Q.1] Thank you. Dialogue: 0,0:46:37.38,0:46:41.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] If you are earnest,\Nyou can walk the same road. Dialogue: 0,0:46:41.23,0:46:44.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's fresh every time. Dialogue: 0,0:46:44.08,0:46:47.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[inaudible speech in background] Dialogue: 0,0:46:47.53,0:46:51.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.2] Yes, something is missing,\Nlike people bring to you often, Dialogue: 0,0:46:51.64,0:46:55.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.2] 'Yes, I do exercise, great,\Nbut something is missing.' Dialogue: 0,0:46:55.29,0:46:58.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And there was a moment when I recognised, Dialogue: 0,0:46:58.04,0:47:02.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'Oh, wow, I have this thought.'\NI really needed to look into that. Dialogue: 0,0:47:02.32,0:47:06.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it came to me,\Nthat due to the habit of having a shape, Dialogue: 0,0:47:06.90,0:47:11.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's as though something is looking\Nfor the shape within the shapeless. Dialogue: 0,0:47:11.59,0:47:15.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this gives you an idea\Nthat something is missing. Dialogue: 0,0:47:15.31,0:47:18.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then,\Nanother thing that you keep telling us, Dialogue: 0,0:47:18.74,0:47:22.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Can you bear your own emptiness? Dialogue: 0,0:47:22.20,0:47:26.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it's just like,\Nit just clicked in a different way. Dialogue: 0,0:47:26.58,0:47:29.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That it's not bothersome anymore when it comes. Dialogue: 0,0:47:29.87,0:47:34.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] We're used to possessing some phenomenal gain. Dialogue: 0,0:47:34.84,0:47:38.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We say,\N'Yes, but there's something missing'. Dialogue: 0,0:47:38.72,0:47:43.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sometimes I might put it ... Dialogue: 0,0:47:48.66,0:47:54.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What is saying that something is missing? Dialogue: 0,0:47:54.50,0:48:00.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And, you know,\Nwe're in a kind of 'end of game' moment. Dialogue: 0,0:48:00.79,0:48:02.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'The mind?' OK. Dialogue: 0,0:48:02.85,0:48:07.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What's seeing the mind,\Nsaying something is missing? Dialogue: 0,0:48:07.04,0:48:09.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'Oh, I can't see that.' Dialogue: 0,0:48:09.57,0:48:12.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Does that mean, it doesn't exist?\NYou see? Dialogue: 0,0:48:12.77,0:48:14.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'I', who can't see it? Dialogue: 0,0:48:14.95,0:48:19.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Even the one who is saying, 'I can't see it',\Nis also seen, from it.\N Dialogue: 0,0:48:19.72,0:48:25.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] But this, we come to something .... What?\N[voice] Could you say that again? Dialogue: 0,0:48:25.09,0:48:29.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Even the one who is saying,\N'I can't see, what's seeing this', Dialogue: 0,0:48:29.76,0:48:32.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is itself seen, in this. Dialogue: 0,0:48:32.69,0:48:38.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But there is something that feels like,\N'I need a concrete ... Dialogue: 0,0:48:38.24,0:48:42.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,... conclusion.' Dialogue: 0,0:48:42.18,0:48:49.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And any concrete conclusion is also just phenomenal. Dialogue: 0,0:48:49.05,0:48:52.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this is why I say,\NYou cannot bear your own emptiness. Dialogue: 0,0:48:52.91,0:48:57.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because something is relying on a trophy. Dialogue: 0,0:48:57.75,0:49:02.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But both the trophy and the one gaining it,\Naren't real, either. Dialogue: 0,0:49:02.41,0:49:04.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Like this. Dialogue: 0,0:49:04.72,0:49:09.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it can look like, it's kind of mental, OK? Dialogue: 0,0:49:09.79,0:49:13.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's like the sword of wisdom can look like, Dialogue: 0,0:49:13.97,0:49:17.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'Hmmm, but it's made of cardboard.' Dialogue: 0,0:49:17.79,0:49:24.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It doesn't matter what it thinks,\Nbut, yes ... Dialogue: 0,0:49:25.39,0:49:32.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is the heart of Advaita contemplation! Dialogue: 0,0:49:32.29,0:49:35.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is the ... Dialogue: 0,0:49:38.57,0:49:41.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is no next, after this. Dialogue: 0,0:49:41.87,0:49:44.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You understand?\NUnless we go out. Dialogue: 0,0:49:44.44,0:49:47.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Which is fine, but go out after! Dialogue: 0,0:49:47.97,0:49:50.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When you go out during,\Nwhen we're looking, Dialogue: 0,0:49:50.76,0:49:54.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,something wants to escape.\NOK, that's fine, it's OK. Dialogue: 0,0:49:54.83,0:49:58.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is that you?\NKind of ... Dialogue: 0,0:49:58.59,0:50:02.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because you're used to this being also mind,\Nand ... Dialogue: 0,0:50:02.32,0:50:05.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] So anyway, we can just stop there.\N[voice] Yes. Dialogue: 0,0:50:05.51,0:50:08.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Yes, the ax has fallen. Dialogue: 0,0:50:08.70,0:50:12.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But the head is talking. Dialogue: 0,0:50:12.52,0:50:14.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[laughter] Dialogue: 0,0:50:14.63,0:50:19.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes, the ax has fallen, but the head is talking.