[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,0:00:08.89,0:00:12.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How to be Free from Ego Dialogue: 0,0:00:12.37,0:00:14.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,5 November 2024\N(with subtitles) Dialogue: 0,0:00:18.27,0:00:21.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Mooji] Can I just read it out?\N[Questioner 1] Yes. Dialogue: 0,0:00:21.50,0:00:23.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] You write, 'Dear Guruji, Dialogue: 0,0:00:23.50,0:00:27.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I am too ashamed and afraid \Nto speak to you. Dialogue: 0,0:00:27.25,0:00:31.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't know how to observe with detachment. Dialogue: 0,0:00:31.60,0:00:35.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't know how to be aware\Nthat I am aware. Dialogue: 0,0:00:35.31,0:00:39.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I still see this 'I' identity as real.\NPlease help. Mia.' Dialogue: 0,0:00:39.89,0:00:42.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's a very, very honest thing. Dialogue: 0,0:00:42.69,0:00:46.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I wish people would write more like this.\NAnd just to say, Dialogue: 0,0:00:46.37,0:00:49.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because some people,\Nthey hold back and they don't say. Dialogue: 0,0:00:49.85,0:00:52.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I appreciate that you can say it, Dialogue: 0,0:00:52.17,0:00:54.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because I can kind of have a chance Dialogue: 0,0:00:54.51,0:00:57.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to share with you in a simple way. Dialogue: 0,0:00:59.27,0:01:03.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'I don't know how to observe \Nwith detachment.' Dialogue: 0,0:01:07.29,0:01:12.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Actually, we are observing with detachment\Nmany things, Dialogue: 0,0:01:12.21,0:01:16.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if they don't matter to you,\Ndo you understand? Dialogue: 0,0:01:16.17,0:01:19.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If things don't matter to you, \Nyou still see them, Dialogue: 0,0:01:19.41,0:01:21.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but you are not distracted by them. Dialogue: 0,0:01:21.69,0:01:25.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For everybody, it's the same thing.\NSo that's the first part. Dialogue: 0,0:01:25.55,0:01:29.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is no such thing as \Nnot observing with detachment. Dialogue: 0,0:01:29.18,0:01:31.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If, suppose everything you see, Dialogue: 0,0:01:31.60,0:01:33.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,every situation you had, Dialogue: 0,0:01:33.84,0:01:36.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you had to remember.\NIt's just alive in you. Dialogue: 0,0:01:36.70,0:01:39.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We will be completely crazy.\NNobody can do. Dialogue: 0,0:01:39.96,0:01:46.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is the mechanism \Nof our true natural state. Dialogue: 0,0:01:46.22,0:01:50.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's working all the time to ... Dialogue: 0,0:01:50.10,0:01:53.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Like you can walk through here,\Nwalk up there. Dialogue: 0,0:01:53.00,0:01:56.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You don't have to notice every step,\Nor notice everything. Dialogue: 0,0:01:56.68,0:01:59.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You meet a person. \NSay, 'Hi, hello. Good morning.' Dialogue: 0,0:01:59.92,0:02:02.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You pass. You don't have to retain that. Dialogue: 0,0:02:02.50,0:02:07.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So a natural detachment \Nis functioning inside us. Dialogue: 0,0:02:10.76,0:02:15.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's already there, the detachment. Dialogue: 0,0:02:15.05,0:02:19.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If we were not able to detach \Nand yet we are perceiving, Dialogue: 0,0:02:19.66,0:02:22.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we would be in trouble. Dialogue: 0,0:02:22.75,0:02:30.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, first of all, know that it's natural, \Nthat you meet people ... Dialogue: 0,0:02:30.17,0:02:34.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's the things that matter to you, Dialogue: 0,0:02:34.61,0:02:39.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you start to become more attached to. Dialogue: 0,0:02:39.09,0:02:42.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Like it has meaning, \Nand so I have to remember this thing. Dialogue: 0,0:02:42.97,0:02:46.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it's almost like, \Nyou take a kind of photograph Dialogue: 0,0:02:46.80,0:02:50.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in some kind of way inside.\NIt's like, that matters. Dialogue: 0,0:02:50.19,0:02:53.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So then it becomes important.\NSo like this, when you say, Dialogue: 0,0:02:53.81,0:02:57.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'I don't know how to observe \Nwith detachment', Dialogue: 0,0:02:57.46,0:03:01.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if I say, Dialogue: 0,0:03:01.03,0:03:05.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But you are doing it anyway \Nwith many things. Dialogue: 0,0:03:05.41,0:03:08.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If I walk through from the front\Nto the back here, Dialogue: 0,0:03:08.57,0:03:11.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I say to everybody \Nas we're walking through, Dialogue: 0,0:03:11.66,0:03:13.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Be detached from everything, Dialogue: 0,0:03:13.66,0:03:17.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then it becomes a problem,\Nbecause it turns it into a strangeness. Dialogue: 0,0:03:17.86,0:03:20.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because naturally \Nyou're detached from things. Dialogue: 0,0:03:20.83,0:03:22.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You come to satsang Dialogue: 0,0:03:22.83,0:03:26.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I'm teaching you something \Nmuch more powerful. Dialogue: 0,0:03:26.06,0:03:30.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And to bring awareness to something \Nthat's already natural for you. Dialogue: 0,0:03:30.37,0:03:33.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I want it to be natural for you, Dialogue: 0,0:03:33.85,0:03:36.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even with things that matter. Dialogue: 0,0:03:36.57,0:03:39.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] Yes, that is my problem. Dialogue: 0,0:03:39.01,0:03:44.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Mooji] Yeah, yeah, yeah. \NIt's a problem for everybody. Dialogue: 0,0:03:44.61,0:03:47.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,With things that don't matter,\Nno problem. Dialogue: 0,0:03:47.49,0:03:51.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You don't even have to say,\N'I'm going to be detached from that'. Dialogue: 0,0:03:51.62,0:03:55.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You don't even have to say that.\NYou don't have to think. Dialogue: 0,0:03:55.23,0:03:58.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You're just senses, eyes, life.\NYou meet these things. Dialogue: 0,0:03:58.65,0:04:02.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Nothing. Just move through them. \NYou retain your peace. Dialogue: 0,0:04:02.20,0:04:06.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But about the things that you say matter,\Nand what makes them matter? Dialogue: 0,0:04:06.59,0:04:10.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Let's slow down a bit and say,\Nwhat makes some things matter? Dialogue: 0,0:04:10.45,0:04:14.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's an open question. Dialogue: 0,0:04:14.34,0:04:17.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why do they matter? Dialogue: 0,0:04:17.16,0:04:23.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Some relationship, some concepts like, Dialogue: 0,0:04:23.77,0:04:26.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'OK, this is family, this is my job, Dialogue: 0,0:04:26.64,0:04:30.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this is my relationship'.\NAnd these things matter. Dialogue: 0,0:04:30.04,0:04:33.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So if somebody else's relationship \Nis in problem, Dialogue: 0,0:04:33.21,0:04:35.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's no problem for you. Dialogue: 0,0:04:35.21,0:04:38.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But if you have a relationship problem,\Nit matters for you. Dialogue: 0,0:04:38.95,0:04:41.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So what is this thing that I'm talking about? Dialogue: 0,0:04:41.85,0:04:43.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'To observe with detachment.' Dialogue: 0,0:04:43.85,0:04:46.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's just a little step further\Nthan what I say, Dialogue: 0,0:04:46.91,0:04:50.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you walk through,\Nyou're naturally detached anyway. Dialogue: 0,0:04:50.15,0:04:54.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What I'm asking about, \Nlearning to observe with detachment, Dialogue: 0,0:04:54.23,0:04:58.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is to bring that detachment ... Dialogue: 0,0:04:58.50,0:05:02.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because whatever you see,\Nnothing sticks actually. Dialogue: 0,0:05:02.01,0:05:04.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A natural thing. Dialogue: 0,0:05:04.13,0:05:06.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But when things matter, Dialogue: 0,0:05:06.78,0:05:11.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your relationship, what you want, \Nyour work and so on, Dialogue: 0,0:05:11.77,0:05:15.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it creates a structure in your mind Dialogue: 0,0:05:15.52,0:05:19.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you have to take care of that. Dialogue: 0,0:05:19.46,0:05:22.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, I'm not going into all of these things. Dialogue: 0,0:05:22.64,0:05:27.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm saying that, \NOK, what is attachment, is to ... Dialogue: 0,0:05:30.30,0:05:36.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want you to be aware \Nof a space within you, Dialogue: 0,0:05:36.83,0:05:45.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is not changed\Nby whatever is happening around you. Dialogue: 0,0:05:45.63,0:05:50.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's alive.\NIt's not dead, but it's not, Dialogue: 0,0:05:50.32,0:05:57.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's not attached\Nto the outcome of things so deeply. Dialogue: 0,0:05:57.37,0:06:01.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't know if I'm putting it right.\NI'm trying to find an example. Dialogue: 0,0:06:04.31,0:06:09.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] I feel like there is no space.\NIt's just all mind and identity. Dialogue: 0,0:06:09.100,0:06:12.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Mooji] Ok, if you are able to see mind, Dialogue: 0,0:06:12.68,0:06:16.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you must be looking from \Nsome place that's not mind. Dialogue: 0,0:06:16.38,0:06:18.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is true for everybody. Dialogue: 0,0:06:18.38,0:06:21.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's just you're not aware \Nthat it's like that. Dialogue: 0,0:06:21.40,0:06:25.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Actually, what I'm saying is \Nactually so powerfully true for you, Dialogue: 0,0:06:25.73,0:06:29.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when you are aware of it. Dialogue: 0,0:06:29.46,0:06:35.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And largely, the teachings\Nand the practice of what we do here Dialogue: 0,0:06:35.09,0:06:38.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is to make you more aware \Nof something about you Dialogue: 0,0:06:38.55,0:06:41.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you are not so aware of. \NFor everybody, you see. Dialogue: 0,0:06:41.97,0:06:46.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And because we're not aware\Nin the place that you should be aware Dialogue: 0,0:06:46.10,0:06:48.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of your inmost being ... Dialogue: 0,0:06:48.27,0:06:51.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can't see that. Dialogue: 0,0:06:51.02,0:06:54.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's the other thing.\NEverything else you can see. Dialogue: 0,0:06:54.52,0:06:57.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Every relationship, every object you can see. Dialogue: 0,0:06:57.77,0:07:00.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Every thought you can remember, \Nyou can think. Dialogue: 0,0:07:00.84,0:07:02.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They are all called 'other'. Dialogue: 0,0:07:02.87,0:07:06.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Everything you can see. Dialogue: 0,0:07:06.04,0:07:08.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But your Self you cannot see! Dialogue: 0,0:07:08.57,0:07:10.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Do you get that?\N[Q.1] Yes. Dialogue: 0,0:07:10.64,0:07:15.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] You can say,\N'Oh, this is my body. This is my ring. Dialogue: 0,0:07:15.22,0:07:17.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is my house. This is my car.' Dialogue: 0,0:07:17.49,0:07:20.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'My, my, my. This belongs to me.' Dialogue: 0,0:07:20.70,0:07:23.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'My, my, my.' \NEverything belongs to you. Dialogue: 0,0:07:23.90,0:07:27.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'This is my family. This is my mother.\NThis is my house. Dialogue: 0,0:07:27.84,0:07:32.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is my country. This is my passport.\NThis is my birth certificate.' Dialogue: 0,0:07:32.34,0:07:35.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All 'my', meaning they belong to you. Dialogue: 0,0:07:35.44,0:07:41.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But can you say, \NThis is my, 'my'? This is my, 'me'? Dialogue: 0,0:07:41.85,0:07:44.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can't say, 'This is my, me'.\NWhy? Dialogue: 0,0:07:48.13,0:07:51.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] Because I cannot see this. Dialogue: 0,0:07:51.00,0:07:54.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Yes, yes.\NSo because you can't see it, Dialogue: 0,0:07:54.16,0:07:58.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] does it mean it's not there?\N[Q.1] No. Dialogue: 0,0:07:58.23,0:08:01.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Right. So there's something in the world, Dialogue: 0,0:08:01.20,0:08:04.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,everything you can see,\Nbut something you cannot see. Dialogue: 0,0:08:04.76,0:08:08.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Everything you can see,\Nbut something you cannot see. Dialogue: 0,0:08:08.25,0:08:12.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And yet you cannot deny that it is real,\Nisn't it? Dialogue: 0,0:08:12.79,0:08:14.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know you are. Dialogue: 0,0:08:14.79,0:08:17.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, I'm going to zoom in a little bit closer Dialogue: 0,0:08:17.79,0:08:21.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in this feeling that, 'Yes, I know I am'. Dialogue: 0,0:08:24.92,0:08:27.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This thing which you cannot see, Dialogue: 0,0:08:27.86,0:08:30.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you say, 'You know it is here', Dialogue: 0,0:08:30.96,0:08:32.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, it's the first fact, Dialogue: 0,0:08:32.96,0:08:36.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because if it's not here,\Nnothing else is here, isn't it? Dialogue: 0,0:08:36.57,0:08:39.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Mooji] But it cannot be seen, yeah? Dialogue: 0,0:08:41.05,0:08:44.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,OK, so we are back to this point. Dialogue: 0,0:08:44.49,0:08:48.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Everything you can see, everything; Dialogue: 0,0:08:48.07,0:08:52.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your thoughts, feelings, Dialogue: 0,0:08:52.34,0:08:55.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,objects, people, your feelings, Dialogue: 0,0:08:55.79,0:08:58.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all of these things, you can see. Dialogue: 0,0:08:58.04,0:09:04.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can even see\Nthe quality of your sight, isn't it? Dialogue: 0,0:09:04.24,0:09:07.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So if you went to the optician\Nand he said, Dialogue: 0,0:09:07.38,0:09:10.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'Could you tell me something, \Nwhy you come here?' Dialogue: 0,0:09:10.81,0:09:16.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You said, 'Actually, I'm not able to see \Nor focus on things so well'. Dialogue: 0,0:09:16.50,0:09:19.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He said, 'In both eyes?' Dialogue: 0,0:09:19.12,0:09:22.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You said, 'No, no, in the right eye'. Dialogue: 0,0:09:22.02,0:09:24.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'OK, tell me something.' Dialogue: 0,0:09:24.05,0:09:28.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You said, 'In the left eye, I can see \Nmaybe 80% of what it should be, Dialogue: 0,0:09:28.91,0:09:31.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but in the right eye it's like about 50'. Dialogue: 0,0:09:31.68,0:09:37.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So something must be seeing sight,\Nisn't it? Dialogue: 0,0:09:37.57,0:09:41.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The capacity is there.\NYou don't have to ask anybody. Dialogue: 0,0:09:41.20,0:09:43.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can see, yes, something is aware Dialogue: 0,0:09:43.66,0:09:48.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that even the sight is not functioning well. Dialogue: 0,0:09:48.56,0:09:52.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So something must be behind even the sight. Dialogue: 0,0:09:52.50,0:09:55.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,OK? Dialogue: 0,0:09:55.50,0:09:59.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You are also aware of feelings, Dialogue: 0,0:09:59.66,0:10:03.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,emotion, sense of time. Dialogue: 0,0:10:03.54,0:10:06.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If somebody said,\N'Yesterday something happened', Dialogue: 0,0:10:06.64,0:10:08.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you are aware of what that means. Dialogue: 0,0:10:08.83,0:10:12.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Everything you are aware of.\NEverything you can see. Dialogue: 0,0:10:12.23,0:10:16.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] But your Self, can you see?\N[Q.1] No. Dialogue: 0,0:10:16.04,0:10:19.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Mooji] Why? Dialogue: 0,0:10:19.51,0:10:21.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Your body you can see. Dialogue: 0,0:10:21.51,0:10:23.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Your body you can see. Dialogue: 0,0:10:23.51,0:10:27.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can see your smile.\NYou can see your body. Dialogue: 0,0:10:27.25,0:10:31.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can see everything.\NBut your Self? Dialogue: 0,0:10:31.78,0:10:36.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Is seeing your body [seeing] your Self?\N[Q.1] No. Dialogue: 0,0:10:36.68,0:10:39.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Mooji] Why not? Dialogue: 0,0:10:43.66,0:10:46.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] Because something is aware of the body. Dialogue: 0,0:10:46.96,0:10:49.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Yes, something is aware of the body. Dialogue: 0,0:10:49.69,0:10:53.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That something which is aware of the body\Ncannot be seen. Dialogue: 0,0:10:53.31,0:10:56.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] You're saying that, no?\N[Q.1] Yeah. Dialogue: 0,0:10:57.80,0:11:01.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Can it see sickness? Dialogue: 0,0:11:01.09,0:11:04.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It can know, 'I'm not feeling well'. Dialogue: 0,0:11:04.50,0:11:07.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'I'm not feeling ...' \NIt knows emotion. Dialogue: 0,0:11:07.21,0:11:10.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'I'm feeling a little a bit uncomfortable.' Dialogue: 0,0:11:10.86,0:11:14.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It sees everything.\NBut itself it cannot see. Dialogue: 0,0:11:14.30,0:11:17.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You are saying that, no? Yeah. Dialogue: 0,0:11:17.73,0:11:22.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why can it see everything,\Nbut it cannot see itself? Dialogue: 0,0:11:26.80,0:11:29.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] This I don't know. Dialogue: 0,0:11:31.59,0:11:33.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] This which cannot ... Dialogue: 0,0:11:33.59,0:11:37.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can see everything,\Nbut you cannot see your Self. Dialogue: 0,0:11:37.97,0:11:42.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This which you cannot see,\Nyet you cannot deny, Dialogue: 0,0:11:42.24,0:11:45.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this is your Self. Dialogue: 0,0:11:52.36,0:11:55.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Everything you can see,\Nyour feelings, thoughts, Dialogue: 0,0:11:55.95,0:12:00.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the function of intellect. Dialogue: 0,0:12:00.49,0:12:02.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Everything you can see. Dialogue: 0,0:12:02.67,0:12:06.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But that which is seeing them,\Nyou say, 'I can see'. Dialogue: 0,0:12:06.96,0:12:11.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's sort of,\Nthe word 'I' which represents this thing, Dialogue: 0,0:12:11.25,0:12:14.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it cannot be seen. Dialogue: 0,0:12:14.38,0:12:16.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Even your mother can come and say, Dialogue: 0,0:12:16.93,0:12:19.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'Darling, it's nice to see you'. Dialogue: 0,0:12:19.22,0:12:23.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] What is the 'you' that she is seeing?\N[Q.1] The body. Dialogue: 0,0:12:23.46,0:12:29.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] The body. And she's seeing her affection,\Nher memory of you. Dialogue: 0,0:12:29.96,0:12:32.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All this she puts to be you. Dialogue: 0,0:12:32.16,0:12:34.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'Darling, it's so nice. Where have you been? Dialogue: 0,0:12:34.100,0:12:37.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I haven't seen you for a long time.' Dialogue: 0,0:12:37.33,0:12:41.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So whatever someone says,\N'It's good to see you. Where you've been?' Dialogue: 0,0:12:41.64,0:12:45.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'You put on or lost some weight',\Nall of this is to do with what? Dialogue: 0,0:12:45.77,0:12:49.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] Our appearance.\N[M.] Your form and appearance, OK. Dialogue: 0,0:12:49.33,0:12:51.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Mooji] So, can she see you? Dialogue: 0,0:12:51.91,0:12:54.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Can you see 'you'? Dialogue: 0,0:12:54.54,0:12:58.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is that scary? Dialogue: 0,0:12:58.41,0:13:03.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] No, it's not scary, but it's ... Dialogue: 0,0:13:03.53,0:13:06.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Something is missing, or feels like ... Dialogue: 0,0:13:06.88,0:13:11.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Mooji] OK, take a moment \Nand think about what's missing. Dialogue: 0,0:13:16.18,0:13:20.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You cannot see your true Self. Dialogue: 0,0:13:20.37,0:13:25.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I also cannot see my true Self. Dialogue: 0,0:13:25.24,0:13:27.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why? Dialogue: 0,0:13:27.41,0:13:31.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because it's not an object. Dialogue: 0,0:13:31.02,0:13:35.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's not even a thought. Dialogue: 0,0:13:35.62,0:13:40.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] But you say to stay as this. But ... \N[Questioner 1 laughs] Dialogue: 0,0:13:40.16,0:13:44.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Well. OK. OK, thank you.\NI say to stay as this. Why? Dialogue: 0,0:13:44.74,0:13:50.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because, first of all,\Nyou imagine something else to be yourself. Dialogue: 0,0:13:50.70,0:13:54.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You call yourself a woman, a daughter, \Nyou are from this country. Dialogue: 0,0:13:54.89,0:13:58.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'My parents, I am ...'\NWhatever. Like this. Dialogue: 0,0:13:58.19,0:14:04.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we are used to associating some quality\Nthat represents you. Dialogue: 0,0:14:04.23,0:14:09.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But really, you are earlier than this,\Nin the purity. Dialogue: 0,0:14:09.14,0:14:12.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The one that is aware, that says ... Dialogue: 0,0:14:12.26,0:14:14.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You're talking on the phone, Dialogue: 0,0:14:14.36,0:14:18.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'I'm 27 years old. I have got two children. Dialogue: 0,0:14:18.04,0:14:20.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm married. I live in this place.' Dialogue: 0,0:14:20.38,0:14:25.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That one, is what? Dialogue: 0,0:14:25.24,0:14:27.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] The person.\N[M.] It's the person. Dialogue: 0,0:14:27.88,0:14:33.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] The person and the Self,\Nthe true Self, is it the same thing? Dialogue: 0,0:14:33.13,0:14:35.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] No. Dialogue: 0,0:14:35.15,0:14:39.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Does that bring a feeling of discomfort? Dialogue: 0,0:14:42.29,0:14:45.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] No. \N[M.] No. No. Dialogue: 0,0:14:45.21,0:14:48.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Because there's nothing \Nyou've to do to know that. Dialogue: 0,0:14:48.76,0:14:50.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Something knows. Dialogue: 0,0:14:50.76,0:14:54.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yet most people in the world\Nhave not even looked like this. Dialogue: 0,0:14:54.57,0:14:57.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They have not even thought about this, Dialogue: 0,0:14:57.11,0:15:00.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because your world starts with your person. Dialogue: 0,0:15:00.78,0:15:03.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If I employ you, I look at you, I interview, Dialogue: 0,0:15:03.62,0:15:05.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I say, Tell me about yourself. Dialogue: 0,0:15:05.62,0:15:08.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You say, 'I studied this in university. Dialogue: 0,0:15:08.14,0:15:11.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I lived in South Africa for a while. \NI've travelled.' Dialogue: 0,0:15:11.56,0:15:14.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Information.\NInformation cannot be you. Dialogue: 0,0:15:14.11,0:15:16.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's about your person. Dialogue: 0,0:15:16.41,0:15:22.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Which is, what is the person? Dialogue: 0,0:15:22.08,0:15:25.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] This identity is the person.\N[M.] Yes, yes. Dialogue: 0,0:15:25.33,0:15:28.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Can you see the identity person? Dialogue: 0,0:15:28.91,0:15:32.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.] Yeah.\N[Mooji] What does it look like? Dialogue: 0,0:15:34.83,0:15:38.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] Some tightness, some attachment.\N[Mooji] Yes. Dialogue: 0,0:15:38.61,0:15:41.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Attachment.\N[Q.1] To ideas. Dialogue: 0,0:15:41.17,0:15:46.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Mooji] Yes. Attachment to some ideas, OK? Dialogue: 0,0:15:46.14,0:15:50.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But the person is also an idea. Dialogue: 0,0:15:50.35,0:15:54.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] This is the problem,\Nbecause it really feels real. So, yeah. Dialogue: 0,0:15:54.75,0:15:59.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Because it is the feeling 'I' in you, Dialogue: 0,0:15:59.59,0:16:04.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this 'I', it says, 'I see, I think, I ...' \NDa, da, da. Dialogue: 0,0:16:04.62,0:16:06.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Who is the 'I' that thinks? Dialogue: 0,0:16:06.61,0:16:11.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We are not sure\Nif it's the person or the real Self? Dialogue: 0,0:16:11.79,0:16:16.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'I want.'\N'Yes, I know.' Dialogue: 0,0:16:16.62,0:16:20.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Who is the 'I' that knows? Dialogue: 0,0:16:20.09,0:16:23.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is it personal or impersonal? Dialogue: 0,0:16:23.88,0:16:28.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] Personal.\N[Mooji] It's personal. OK, good! Dialogue: 0,0:16:28.31,0:16:33.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Mooji] What sees it is impersonal? Dialogue: 0,0:16:33.33,0:16:37.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] I don't know what.\NI know something is seeing but ... Dialogue: 0,0:16:37.11,0:16:41.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Yes. It's the same answer. \NYou've given the answer already. Dialogue: 0,0:16:41.23,0:16:43.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It cannot be seen. Dialogue: 0,0:16:43.60,0:16:47.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, this is the most important discovery, Dialogue: 0,0:16:47.46,0:16:52.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because until you really realise this \Nand know this, Dialogue: 0,0:16:52.23,0:16:56.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you take yourself to be an object,\Nperceiving another object. Dialogue: 0,0:16:56.10,0:17:00.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The object being your person.\NAnd it's OK, it's OK. Dialogue: 0,0:17:00.12,0:17:04.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,God made it like that. \NThat we would also be projected Dialogue: 0,0:17:04.17,0:17:07.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,into the world of thought,\Nand feeling and association, Dialogue: 0,0:17:07.94,0:17:10.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and say, 'This is me'.\NFor a while. Dialogue: 0,0:17:10.87,0:17:15.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But with this 'I', that works as the person, Dialogue: 0,0:17:15.75,0:17:21.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,its world and itself are never stable, Dialogue: 0,0:17:21.14,0:17:25.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because it has an identity. Dialogue: 0,0:17:25.12,0:17:30.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is the identity of the person\Nalways stable? No, no. Dialogue: 0,0:17:30.14,0:17:35.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But it tries with everything\Nto share that it is stable. Dialogue: 0,0:17:35.56,0:17:39.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because stable means, it's wise, it's real. Dialogue: 0,0:17:39.81,0:17:44.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's dependable. It's consistent. Dialogue: 0,0:17:44.20,0:17:46.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm just talking this through. Dialogue: 0,0:17:46.96,0:17:50.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I'm pointing to a deeper knowing \Nbehind this person, Dialogue: 0,0:17:50.65,0:17:56.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that knows the person, \Nthat sees the person. OK? Dialogue: 0,0:17:56.24,0:18:00.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That which is aware of the person,\Nyou are with me? Dialogue: 0,0:18:00.44,0:18:04.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is it attached to the person, \Nor is the person attached to it? Dialogue: 0,0:18:04.57,0:18:07.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Take a moment. Dialogue: 0,0:18:11.05,0:18:15.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] It is not attached.\N[Mooji] Not attached. Dialogue: 0,0:18:15.68,0:18:19.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Does it suffer from not being attached? Dialogue: 0,0:18:19.39,0:18:23.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] No. \N[Questioner 1 laughs] Dialogue: 0,0:18:23.74,0:18:27.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] But I had to question you,\Nfor you to recede to that place, Dialogue: 0,0:18:27.81,0:18:31.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to say, 'It's not attached'. Dialogue: 0,0:18:31.00,0:18:33.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because where we are functioning, normally, Dialogue: 0,0:18:33.77,0:18:37.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is from the identity of the person,\Nwhich is attached. Dialogue: 0,0:18:37.60,0:18:40.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Which likes and dislikes. Dialogue: 0,0:18:40.04,0:18:42.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Who wants and doesn't want. Dialogue: 0,0:18:42.39,0:18:44.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Who thinks this and thinks that. Dialogue: 0,0:18:44.78,0:18:49.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And very much is in the function \Nof perceiving and living, no? Dialogue: 0,0:18:49.62,0:18:53.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, what I'm sharing is that, \Nthat's OK. Dialogue: 0,0:18:53.85,0:19:00.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But if you only are aware of yourself\Nas a person, with its world, Dialogue: 0,0:19:00.49,0:19:05.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you will never be totally happy.\NBecause it's not stable. Dialogue: 0,0:19:05.21,0:19:09.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Today, 'Ah, I'm so happy. I'm so ... \NOh, so wonderful!' Dialogue: 0,0:19:09.22,0:19:12.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Tomorrow I see you ... \N[Mooji imitates struggling] Dialogue: 0,0:19:12.45,0:19:15.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I see you. I say, Mia, what's up? Dialogue: 0,0:19:15.90,0:19:18.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'It's OK, I don't want to talk about it.' Dialogue: 0,0:19:18.54,0:19:22.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Who is it, who is speaking? Person, no?\N[Q.1] Yes. Dialogue: 0,0:19:22.19,0:19:24.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] What does the Self say? Dialogue: 0,0:19:24.35,0:19:27.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What does the real Self [say]? Dialogue: 0,0:19:27.56,0:19:30.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Mooji] Is it important at all?\N[Q.1] No. Dialogue: 0,0:19:30.32,0:19:33.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] No. Is the Self important?\N[Q.1] No. Dialogue: 0,0:19:33.59,0:19:36.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] It's not important? OK.\N[Q.1] No. Dialogue: 0,0:19:36.06,0:19:39.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Does that mean it's no good?\NIt's not significant? Dialogue: 0,0:19:39.79,0:19:43.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Self is not important?\NIt's not important? Dialogue: 0,0:19:43.96,0:19:47.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,OK, so what's the purpose\Nof it existing then? Dialogue: 0,0:19:47.47,0:19:51.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If other things after it are important,\Nlike the person; Dialogue: 0,0:19:51.02,0:19:54.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,personal identity is important,\Npersonal world is important, Dialogue: 0,0:19:54.84,0:19:57.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,personal attachment is important. Dialogue: 0,0:19:57.03,0:20:02.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But the one before all of this comes,\Nwhich cannot be removed, Dialogue: 0,0:20:02.32,0:20:06.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can the Self be killed? No. Dialogue: 0,0:20:06.57,0:20:10.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And you say, I'm quite liking it, actually, Dialogue: 0,0:20:10.09,0:20:13.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'It's not important'. OK? Dialogue: 0,0:20:16.52,0:20:20.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Mooji] What is important? Dialogue: 0,0:20:20.71,0:20:25.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] I feel this exercise is important to do.\N[Mooji] Yes. Dialogue: 0,0:20:25.52,0:20:29.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Mooji] Why is it important, the exercise? Dialogue: 0,0:20:33.74,0:20:36.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] To stabilise in this.\N[Mooji] Yes. Dialogue: 0,0:20:36.75,0:20:41.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Mooji] Is it the Self, the inmost Self, \Nthat has to stabilise, Dialogue: 0,0:20:41.04,0:20:43.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or something else has to stabilise? Dialogue: 0,0:20:43.52,0:20:46.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] Something else.\N[Mooji] Right. Dialogue: 0,0:20:46.93,0:20:51.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Mooji] Why does it need to stabilise,\Nthe something else? Dialogue: 0,0:20:51.88,0:20:57.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] Because ...\NNot to get pulled into identity. Dialogue: 0,0:20:57.53,0:21:04.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Yes. What is it that gets pulled\Ninto identity, is it the Self? Dialogue: 0,0:21:04.26,0:21:07.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] Attention.\N[M.] Attention. Attention gets pulled. Dialogue: 0,0:21:07.87,0:21:11.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Mooji] So attention is very important.\N[Q.1] Yes. Dialogue: 0,0:21:11.80,0:21:15.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Mooji] When the attention \Ngets pulled into identity, Dialogue: 0,0:21:15.95,0:21:18.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what knows it most deeply; Dialogue: 0,0:21:18.52,0:21:25.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the attention, the mind, the person, \Nor the inmost Self? Dialogue: 0,0:21:25.22,0:21:28.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] The Self. The inmost Self.\N[Mooji] The Self. Dialogue: 0,0:21:28.68,0:21:32.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Mooji] Does it suffer?\N[Q.1] No. Dialogue: 0,0:21:32.10,0:21:34.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Mooji] No. Still it's important, Dialogue: 0,0:21:34.81,0:21:39.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because every time the attention \Ngoes out and forgets itself, Dialogue: 0,0:21:39.32,0:21:43.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] it forgets where it comes from.\N[Q.1] Yeah. [laughs] Dialogue: 0,0:21:43.27,0:21:45.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Every time the attention goes out, Dialogue: 0,0:21:45.87,0:21:50.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,gets involved in its projections,\Nit causes some pain. Dialogue: 0,0:21:50.43,0:21:53.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It creates a kind of a world, Dialogue: 0,0:21:53.25,0:21:55.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it creates emotion, Dialogue: 0,0:21:55.21,0:21:58.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it creates ups and downs, like this. Dialogue: 0,0:21:58.49,0:22:01.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And something is troubled by that. Dialogue: 0,0:22:01.32,0:22:04.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Maybe the person is troubled by that.\N[Q.1] Yes. Dialogue: 0,0:22:04.94,0:22:08.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] And in our world, \Neverything is due to the person. Dialogue: 0,0:22:08.48,0:22:11.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's the person that takes \Nanother person to court. Dialogue: 0,0:22:11.78,0:22:15.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's the person that wins or loses.\NWhat about the Self? Dialogue: 0,0:22:18.50,0:22:22.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] Nothing. [laughs]\N[M.] Is it important to know this? Dialogue: 0,0:22:22.19,0:22:24.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] Yeah.\N[M.] Yeah. Dialogue: 0,0:22:24.27,0:22:26.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] OK, so when we speak about ... Dialogue: 0,0:22:26.60,0:22:29.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'll come back to your letter now. Dialogue: 0,0:22:29.39,0:22:36.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You say, 'I don't know\Nhow to observe with detachment'. Dialogue: 0,0:22:36.02,0:22:40.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Does the Self need to know, \Nhow to observe with detachment? Dialogue: 0,0:22:40.78,0:22:45.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Questioner shakes head, no]\N[Mooji] Why? Dialogue: 0,0:22:45.18,0:22:47.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] It doesn't need anything. Dialogue: 0,0:22:47.26,0:22:50.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Mooji] It doesn't need anything. Dialogue: 0,0:22:50.29,0:22:54.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yet everything is known to it. Dialogue: 0,0:22:54.11,0:22:57.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The play of the mind, \Nor 'Da-da-da-da', it knows, Dialogue: 0,0:22:57.95,0:23:02.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Mooji] but it's not impacted upon.\N[Q.1] No. Dialogue: 0,0:23:02.85,0:23:08.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] There is a link between \Nthe sense of the person and the inner Self. Dialogue: 0,0:23:08.13,0:23:10.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] Yes.\N[Mooji] Yes. Dialogue: 0,0:23:10.15,0:23:14.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] When the person,\Nwho cannot exist without the inner Self, Dialogue: 0,0:23:14.67,0:23:22.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when it gets into states of confusion and pain, Dialogue: 0,0:23:22.92,0:23:26.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if it doesn't realise its root as the inner Self, Dialogue: 0,0:23:26.79,0:23:30.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] it goes floating off and trouble can come.\N[Q.1] Yes. Dialogue: 0,0:23:30.47,0:23:33.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Mental problems can come.\NSickness can come. Dialogue: 0,0:23:33.57,0:23:36.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Anger can come.\NFear comes. Everything comes. Dialogue: 0,0:23:36.42,0:23:38.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it's very important, Dialogue: 0,0:23:38.45,0:23:41.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that this personal sense \Nbecomes aware of its root. Dialogue: 0,0:23:41.86,0:23:45.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] Yes, and when I try to do this exercise,\N[M.] Yes. Dialogue: 0,0:23:45.89,0:23:50.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] I cannot come to this.\N[M.] Who is doing the exercise? Dialogue: 0,0:23:50.03,0:23:54.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] Yes, it's the mind and the person.\N[M.] The mind is doing. Dialogue: 0,0:23:54.08,0:23:57.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] And the one who wants to stop suffering.\N[M.] Right. Dialogue: 0,0:23:57.95,0:24:01.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Mooji] What knows this? Dialogue: 0,0:24:03.98,0:24:05.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What is aware of this? Dialogue: 0,0:24:05.99,0:24:08.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is it the person-mind or the inner Self? Dialogue: 0,0:24:08.56,0:24:12.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] The inner Self.\N[M.] Yes. Is the inner Self troubled? Dialogue: 0,0:24:12.30,0:24:14.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] No. Dialogue: 0,0:24:14.34,0:24:18.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Still, the exercise is good,\Nbecause this is the real yoga. Dialogue: 0,0:24:18.86,0:24:22.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yoga means the coming together \Ninto oneness, Dialogue: 0,0:24:22.16,0:24:28.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where the sense of the person \Nhas to rediscover its root. Dialogue: 0,0:24:28.97,0:24:31.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The person cannot live by itself. Dialogue: 0,0:24:31.16,0:24:34.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Even when it's not aware of the Self, Dialogue: 0,0:24:34.68,0:24:37.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it still comes from the Self. Dialogue: 0,0:24:37.69,0:24:43.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So largely the human expression \Nof the consciousness self Dialogue: 0,0:24:43.07,0:24:46.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is self-aware as a person. Dialogue: 0,0:24:46.52,0:24:50.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so it can go on for lifetimes,\Nin the human lifetime, Dialogue: 0,0:24:50.24,0:24:53.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,living the person,\Nbecause it's a big world, its dreams, Dialogue: 0,0:24:53.79,0:24:58.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and 'I've to go do this,\NI like this, I don't like that', and da da da. Dialogue: 0,0:24:58.31,0:25:00.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Maybe life after life. Dialogue: 0,0:25:00.32,0:25:04.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'This life I love, I love ice cream. \NI'd die for ice cream.' Dialogue: 0,0:25:04.18,0:25:06.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Next life, 'I can't stand ice cream'. Dialogue: 0,0:25:06.56,0:25:08.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's nothing consistent about it. Dialogue: 0,0:25:08.90,0:25:13.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Except that it cannot exist \Nwithout the real Self. Dialogue: 0,0:25:13.11,0:25:16.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it has intelligence also. Dialogue: 0,0:25:16.11,0:25:21.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, when it happens to this personal self, Dialogue: 0,0:25:21.63,0:25:25.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for some reason, \Nit's being attracted to find out that. Dialogue: 0,0:25:25.32,0:25:27.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Maybe it suffers enough in the world Dialogue: 0,0:25:27.72,0:25:31.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it wants to find a solution for it. Dialogue: 0,0:25:31.49,0:25:37.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the only solid solution \Nis to discover where it comes from, Dialogue: 0,0:25:37.27,0:25:42.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that where it comes from and itself,\Nare one. Dialogue: 0,0:25:42.30,0:25:44.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's what the search of life is. Dialogue: 0,0:25:44.72,0:25:48.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because all beings who are not aware\Nof this oneness with the Self, Dialogue: 0,0:25:48.97,0:25:51.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all of them suffer. Dialogue: 0,0:25:51.36,0:25:54.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All have problems. Do you see? Dialogue: 0,0:25:54.65,0:25:58.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So this is the purpose of our satsang, Dialogue: 0,0:25:58.84,0:26:03.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that the consciousness,\Nin the form of a person, Dialogue: 0,0:26:03.51,0:26:05.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,becomes attracted to its root, Dialogue: 0,0:26:05.79,0:26:09.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and not just attracted \Nto the world in front of it. Dialogue: 0,0:26:09.56,0:26:12.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so this exercise, like detachment, Dialogue: 0,0:26:12.82,0:26:15.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,meaning that whatever is going on, Dialogue: 0,0:26:15.08,0:26:19.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to go in the world, to do,\Nthe this, and the self-image, Dialogue: 0,0:26:19.53,0:26:21.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,self-image, self-assessments, Dialogue: 0,0:26:21.91,0:26:25.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all of this is a play of the mind, Dialogue: 0,0:26:25.85,0:26:28.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is playing these mind states, no? Dialogue: 0,0:26:28.98,0:26:35.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it has to realise that \Nall states are changeful, OK? Dialogue: 0,0:26:35.65,0:26:37.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that it can witness them, Dialogue: 0,0:26:37.76,0:26:40.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it can observe them, without being them. Dialogue: 0,0:26:40.96,0:26:43.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In fact, you can only observe something, Dialogue: 0,0:26:43.54,0:26:46.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because you are not it, actually. Dialogue: 0,0:26:46.05,0:26:49.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that there is a capacity, Dialogue: 0,0:26:49.22,0:26:54.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even in the person, to observe, Dialogue: 0,0:26:54.09,0:26:59.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and in observing them it knows\Nthat it's not them. Dialogue: 0,0:26:59.11,0:27:03.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that characteristic is like its parent. Dialogue: 0,0:27:03.72,0:27:08.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You see, the person,\Nthe characteristic of looking and realising that, Dialogue: 0,0:27:08.16,0:27:14.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'Whatever I see is only an impression, \Na thought, a feeling, Dialogue: 0,0:27:14.68,0:27:19.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it's not what I am'.\NThat's called 'awakening'. Dialogue: 0,0:27:19.11,0:27:21.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's waking up to the fact that, Dialogue: 0,0:27:21.24,0:27:25.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,nothing out here \Nthat comes through the mind or the senses, Dialogue: 0,0:27:25.16,0:27:27.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,nothing of there can be fundamental to me. Dialogue: 0,0:27:27.97,0:27:30.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All of it is changing. Dialogue: 0,0:27:30.05,0:27:36.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And even myself as the person \Nwho is looking and knowing this, Dialogue: 0,0:27:36.07,0:27:40.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is like on the verge of this way - world, Dialogue: 0,0:27:40.39,0:27:43.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this way - into the abyss of the Self. Dialogue: 0,0:27:43.27,0:27:46.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because it has a capacity\Nthat when it looks, Dialogue: 0,0:27:46.20,0:27:51.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it's not identified with what it sees,\Nor what it experiences, OK? Dialogue: 0,0:27:51.89,0:27:56.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And each thing comes like, life is saying,\N'This thing and this thing'. Dialogue: 0,0:27:56.40,0:28:00.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it's saying,\N'No, it's not this. What I am is not this.' Dialogue: 0,0:28:00.22,0:28:02.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As you keep doing that, Dialogue: 0,0:28:02.25,0:28:07.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it naturally comes back \Nto its original Self-awareness. Dialogue: 0,0:28:07.49,0:28:10.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I say, Self-awareness,\Nnon-dual Self-awareness, Dialogue: 0,0:28:10.72,0:28:15.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like not one thing, not a divided union,\Nbut a harmony. Dialogue: 0,0:28:15.58,0:28:17.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It comes back into realising, Dialogue: 0,0:28:17.72,0:28:21.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'But here, nothing is happening to me'. Dialogue: 0,0:28:21.91,0:28:24.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When I go into the mind,\Ninto identity, Dialogue: 0,0:28:24.98,0:28:27.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then happenings become relevant. Dialogue: 0,0:28:27.58,0:28:32.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But if I even can observe \Nand be aware of even my person, Dialogue: 0,0:28:32.97,0:28:37.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is like, my person is like the ... Dialogue: 0,0:28:37.85,0:28:43.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What you call this?\NThe binoculars that see the world, OK, Dialogue: 0,0:28:43.19,0:28:45.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but the person who sees the world Dialogue: 0,0:28:45.41,0:28:48.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is also seen from the place of the Self. Dialogue: 0,0:28:48.30,0:28:54.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When it knows this,\Nit's coming back into conscious harmony. Dialogue: 0,0:28:54.05,0:28:56.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's all the thing of detachment is. Dialogue: 0,0:28:56.81,0:29:00.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You don't have to kill anything.\NIt's just understanding. Dialogue: 0,0:29:00.94,0:29:04.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The realisation of the Self \Nis a journey of understanding, Dialogue: 0,0:29:04.93,0:29:08.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and understanding your misunderstanding.\NSo it's simple. Dialogue: 0,0:29:08.94,0:29:12.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Unless we get it, it might seem,\N'It's the most complex thing'. Dialogue: 0,0:29:12.94,0:29:15.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why?\NBecause you're not used to doing it. Dialogue: 0,0:29:15.52,0:29:18.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Each one is used to looking forward,\Nlooking outward. Dialogue: 0,0:29:18.87,0:29:23.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Even sometimes when you think \Nwe're looking inward into our mind, Dialogue: 0,0:29:23.08,0:29:25.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's still outward from the inner Self. Dialogue: 0,0:29:25.59,0:29:28.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] Yes, and this happens a lot, Dialogue: 0,0:29:28.08,0:29:33.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because I go in and then it's the body.\NI cannot go beyond. Dialogue: 0,0:29:33.44,0:29:36.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Yes. Or the body-mind.\NYou are in the body-mind. Dialogue: 0,0:29:36.80,0:29:39.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But something behind that\Nknows this thing. Dialogue: 0,0:29:39.78,0:29:44.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The mind cannot make an ultimate realisation Dialogue: 0,0:29:44.44,0:29:48.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,without becoming the realisation. Dialogue: 0,0:29:48.29,0:29:53.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The mind or the person \Ncannot come to ultimate realisation Dialogue: 0,0:29:53.78,0:29:57.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and remain independent of that realisation. Dialogue: 0,0:29:57.24,0:30:02.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The more it becomes aware, \Nthe more it finds that it Is. Dialogue: 0,0:30:02.02,0:30:04.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Not that it has. Dialogue: 0,0:30:04.59,0:30:08.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this is a very significant thing. Dialogue: 0,0:30:08.43,0:30:11.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Nobody can have the realisation Dialogue: 0,0:30:11.26,0:30:13.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and be somebody who has realisation. Dialogue: 0,0:30:13.77,0:30:17.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What it means is that, \Nthe idea of yourself Dialogue: 0,0:30:17.26,0:30:21.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as being only the person,\Nsubsides again, and is seen, Dialogue: 0,0:30:21.36,0:30:26.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it is seen as also the most subtle object. Dialogue: 0,0:30:26.19,0:30:31.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This subtle object of a person \Nis behaving like a subject, Dialogue: 0,0:30:31.18,0:30:34.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that everything in its world\Nis the object. Dialogue: 0,0:30:34.24,0:30:38.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But to the Self, it also is the first object. Dialogue: 0,0:30:38.19,0:30:44.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The first object shines as this feeling 'I',\N'I am here'. Dialogue: 0,0:30:44.62,0:30:47.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, 'Mia!' \N'Yes, I'm here.' Dialogue: 0,0:30:47.28,0:30:49.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What does it mean, 'I am here'? Dialogue: 0,0:30:49.34,0:30:53.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The reference normally is,\N'Look, I'm over here'. Dialogue: 0,0:30:53.03,0:30:55.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this is OK, this is normal. Dialogue: 0,0:30:55.10,0:30:59.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is the only place\Nwhere language can exist, in that way. Dialogue: 0,0:30:59.09,0:31:01.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The language is for the sense of the person Dialogue: 0,0:31:01.95,0:31:06.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,having relationship with what it likes \Nor dislikes. OK? Dialogue: 0,0:31:06.81,0:31:10.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Actually there's nothing wrong with this, \Nultimately. Dialogue: 0,0:31:10.24,0:31:13.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because even as you wake up\Nagain to realise that, Dialogue: 0,0:31:13.40,0:31:16.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whatever happens, it's seen from this place. Dialogue: 0,0:31:16.39,0:31:18.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But this place cannot be seen, Dialogue: 0,0:31:18.78,0:31:23.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that I can only really be this place. Dialogue: 0,0:31:23.73,0:31:27.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then when you really know this,\Nthe dynamic expression of this, Dialogue: 0,0:31:27.72,0:31:31.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is like of being a person,\Nthat can still play, Dialogue: 0,0:31:31.20,0:31:34.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it won't have that delusion in it. Dialogue: 0,0:31:34.65,0:31:38.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] Yes. This delusion has to go. Dialogue: 0,0:31:38.65,0:31:42.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Mooji] No, it needs to be understood.\N[Q.1] Yes. Dialogue: 0,0:31:42.02,0:31:44.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] It doesn't need to go.\NWhy it needs to go? Dialogue: 0,0:31:44.98,0:31:48.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because you are combining it \Nwith your identity Dialogue: 0,0:31:48.02,0:31:50.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it hurts like, 'No, no, no, no'. Dialogue: 0,0:31:50.34,0:31:53.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But all this now, \Nyou're going to see all of this Dialogue: 0,0:31:53.50,0:31:56.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are constructs of the mind. Dialogue: 0,0:31:56.45,0:32:00.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And even the self \Nis just a psychological portrait Dialogue: 0,0:32:00.09,0:32:03.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the mind, of the person. Dialogue: 0,0:32:03.14,0:32:07.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But the inner being, which has no shape,\Nyou can't identify and say, Dialogue: 0,0:32:07.70,0:32:11.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'Ah, I found the inner being'. \NYou cannot do that. Dialogue: 0,0:32:11.02,0:32:16.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because anything you can do that with,\Nis an object in the perception. Dialogue: 0,0:32:16.17,0:32:18.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] Yes. Dialogue: 0,0:32:18.17,0:32:20.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Mooji] You got it, isn't it?\N[Q.1] Yes. Dialogue: 0,0:32:20.86,0:32:25.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Mooji] OK. So, prove your problem.\NGo on. Dialogue: 0,0:32:25.20,0:32:28.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[silence] Dialogue: 0,0:32:41.72,0:32:45.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] You need to sit with this, more and more.\N[Q.1] Yes. Dialogue: 0,0:32:45.96,0:32:48.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Because it's like shape shifting. Dialogue: 0,0:32:48.42,0:32:50.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One minute you think you're looking Dialogue: 0,0:32:50.68,0:32:53.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the next minute you're involved, invested. Dialogue: 0,0:32:53.65,0:32:55.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] Yes. Dialogue: 0,0:32:55.65,0:32:58.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] OK. Don't get angry about this, Dialogue: 0,0:32:58.04,0:33:02.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because it's been happening for lifetimes. Dialogue: 0,0:33:02.29,0:33:04.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, let it happen, it's OK. Dialogue: 0,0:33:04.48,0:33:08.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just keep seeing, 'But wait a minute, \Nthis can be seen also'. Dialogue: 0,0:33:08.54,0:33:13.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The most intimate \Nis also an object of perception. Dialogue: 0,0:33:13.96,0:33:18.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The most intimate, \Nbecause 'intimate' means at least two. Dialogue: 0,0:33:18.24,0:33:22.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If there's not two, there's no intimate. Dialogue: 0,0:33:27.80,0:33:33.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Can you be confused, 'you',\Nin the light of what I'm sharing? Dialogue: 0,0:33:33.90,0:33:36.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] No, no.\N[Mooji] Thank you. Dialogue: 0,0:33:36.58,0:33:39.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] But you can be aware of confusion.\N[Q.1] Yes. Dialogue: 0,0:33:39.86,0:33:42.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] If you can be aware of confusion Dialogue: 0,0:33:42.39,0:33:47.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,without identifying with confusion,\Nare you cheating? Dialogue: 0,0:33:47.36,0:33:49.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] No, no. [laughs] Dialogue: 0,0:33:52.19,0:33:54.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Mooji] Very good. Dialogue: 0,0:33:56.65,0:34:01.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So let's start again from the beginning.\NWhat is your problem? Dialogue: 0,0:34:09.46,0:34:13.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] That when I do this exercise, Dialogue: 0,0:34:13.26,0:34:16.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I believe I need to find something. Dialogue: 0,0:34:16.24,0:34:18.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Mooji] 'I' being what? Dialogue: 0,0:34:18.68,0:34:21.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Qualify your status.\N[Q.1] The person. Dialogue: 0,0:34:21.38,0:34:23.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] When you do the exercise? Dialogue: 0,0:34:23.48,0:34:26.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When the person does the exercise, OK. Dialogue: 0,0:34:26.27,0:34:31.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is another word for person \Nin this exercise, Dialogue: 0,0:34:31.12,0:34:33.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would call it, Dialogue: 0,0:34:33.98,0:34:42.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when the personalised intelligence \Nof the Truth, Dialogue: 0,0:34:42.06,0:34:48.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when the personal intelligence of God Dialogue: 0,0:34:48.00,0:34:52.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,gets confused with its projections, Dialogue: 0,0:34:52.26,0:34:54.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then it's like, it's lost to itself. Dialogue: 0,0:34:54.70,0:34:56.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's like, it's lost to itself. Dialogue: 0,0:34:56.92,0:35:01.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When that loss to itself becomes painful, Dialogue: 0,0:35:01.85,0:35:05.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you are on the brink of awakening. Dialogue: 0,0:35:05.32,0:35:07.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do you understand? Dialogue: 0,0:35:07.53,0:35:10.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because if you're not troubled by it, Dialogue: 0,0:35:10.03,0:35:12.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then you will not go beyond it. Dialogue: 0,0:35:12.11,0:35:17.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] Yes, when it's just pain, pain, pain.\N[laughs] Dialogue: 0,0:35:17.01,0:35:20.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] 'No pain, no gain,' they say.\N[Questioner 1 laughs] Dialogue: 0,0:35:20.56,0:35:22.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You have to ... Dialogue: 0,0:35:22.56,0:35:27.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's like, in a way, \Nyou are giving birth to yourself. Dialogue: 0,0:35:27.99,0:35:31.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] Because I sit and I do, Dialogue: 0,0:35:31.16,0:35:35.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I feel like there is no result.\NThen I give up and come back. Dialogue: 0,0:35:35.77,0:35:39.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] You, again,\Nwho is sitting and looking, is what? Dialogue: 0,0:35:39.42,0:35:42.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] The person. \N[both laugh] Dialogue: 0,0:35:45.09,0:35:48.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Does it matter that \Nwe're catching it like that? Dialogue: 0,0:35:48.51,0:35:50.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That it's the person doing it, Dialogue: 0,0:35:50.51,0:35:53.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that what the person cries about today, Dialogue: 0,0:35:53.28,0:35:56.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,laughs about another moment.\NThat it's not consistent. Dialogue: 0,0:35:56.70,0:36:00.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And even if it says, 'Eureka, I found the Self!'\NCan it be true? Dialogue: 0,0:36:00.76,0:36:03.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] No.\N[Mooji] No. Why not? Dialogue: 0,0:36:03.35,0:36:06.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] Because it cannot be seen. Dialogue: 0,0:36:06.22,0:36:10.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And if it lends to some illusion of ... Dialogue: 0,0:36:10.11,0:36:13.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] So then what's the practice for? Dialogue: 0,0:36:18.06,0:36:23.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] To become aware of all these ... Dialogue: 0,0:36:27.69,0:36:31.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Wrong ideas. Dialogue: 0,0:36:31.75,0:36:34.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Yes, that's one way we can put it. Dialogue: 0,0:36:34.37,0:36:37.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Tell me another way we can put it. \NThat's good. Dialogue: 0,0:36:37.41,0:36:41.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I take that, to become aware \Nof all these kind of little, Dialogue: 0,0:36:41.21,0:36:46.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all these little distortions of understanding, Dialogue: 0,0:36:46.69,0:36:50.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to become aware of them.\NBut more subtle than that. Dialogue: 0,0:36:50.98,0:36:56.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,By becoming aware of them,\Nyou become aware of what? Dialogue: 0,0:36:56.58,0:37:01.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] Of That which is seeing.\N[Mooji] Is seeing, yeah. Dialogue: 0,0:37:01.54,0:37:04.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] How can you become, Dialogue: 0,0:37:04.15,0:37:06.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can you be aware of it phenomenally? Dialogue: 0,0:37:06.92,0:37:09.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Can you become aware of it phenomenally? Dialogue: 0,0:37:09.65,0:37:11.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] No.\N[Mooji] No. Dialogue: 0,0:37:11.83,0:37:15.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Mooji] So therefore,\Nyou become aware of what? Dialogue: 0,0:37:15.28,0:37:20.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] It feels like it's just moments\Nof this awareness. Dialogue: 0,0:37:20.60,0:37:24.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Yeah. It will flicker before, \Nbecause you're not used to it. Dialogue: 0,0:37:24.80,0:37:27.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The reflex is used to going out Dialogue: 0,0:37:27.21,0:37:30.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and connecting with objects of projections \Nand perception. Dialogue: 0,0:37:30.96,0:37:34.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You're used to that.\NBut now I'm asking you to ... Dialogue: 0,0:37:34.12,0:37:38.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All this is happening for everyone.\NAnd even the one who says, Dialogue: 0,0:37:38.06,0:37:41.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'But this is happening to me\Nand I find it frustrating!' Dialogue: 0,0:37:41.60,0:37:44.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What I'm asking you to do is to see that, Dialogue: 0,0:37:44.25,0:37:47.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that also is an aspect of the mind. Dialogue: 0,0:37:47.88,0:37:50.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But all of these aspects, Dialogue: 0,0:37:50.01,0:37:54.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they came originally \Nfrom out of this projection, forward. Dialogue: 0,0:37:54.13,0:37:56.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Can you see?\N[Q.1] Yeah. Dialogue: 0,0:37:56.60,0:38:06.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Yeah. And that the real opportunity \Nis in seeing this. Dialogue: 0,0:38:06.36,0:38:11.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But still something is feeling,\N'No, but mind is still troubling'. Dialogue: 0,0:38:11.44,0:38:15.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No, don't worry.\NIt's troubling who? Dialogue: 0,0:38:15.36,0:38:19.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Who is the mind troubling? Dialogue: 0,0:38:19.99,0:38:23.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] We can say together after three: 1, 2, 3 ...\N[Q.1] No one. Dialogue: 0,0:38:23.99,0:38:27.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] The person. Oh, no one!\NOh, you beat me to it! Dialogue: 0,0:38:27.22,0:38:31.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's troubling no one!\NIt's troubling no one. Dialogue: 0,0:38:31.09,0:38:36.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's a better answer than the person.\NDo you see this? Dialogue: 0,0:38:36.06,0:38:38.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] Yeah.\N[Mooji] OK. Dialogue: 0,0:38:40.51,0:38:43.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Mooji] So now what? Dialogue: 0,0:38:47.39,0:38:51.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's enough or not enough? Dialogue: 0,0:38:54.32,0:38:57.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] I don't know. Dialogue: 0,0:38:57.32,0:39:02.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Who is saying? Who is ...?\NWhere is this answer coming from? Dialogue: 0,0:39:06.86,0:39:10.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I can accept it, or I can question it,\N'I don't know'. Dialogue: 0,0:39:10.50,0:39:14.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'I', who don't know? Dialogue: 0,0:39:14.94,0:39:18.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] It's the person.\N[Mooji] It's the person. Dialogue: 0,0:39:18.71,0:39:21.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Mooji] Yeah, sure?\N[Q.1] No. [laughs] Dialogue: 0,0:39:21.86,0:39:23.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] It can be from the person. Dialogue: 0,0:39:23.93,0:39:26.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you say it's from the person, OK, Dialogue: 0,0:39:26.25,0:39:29.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then I would say,\NYou give me one more move. Dialogue: 0,0:39:29.12,0:39:34.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But what's aware\Nthat it's coming from the person? Dialogue: 0,0:39:34.20,0:39:39.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] Yes.\NSomething feels like, it's not satisfied, Dialogue: 0,0:39:39.34,0:39:45.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I should not go after this. Dialogue: 0,0:39:45.31,0:39:49.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Mooji] Yes, yes.\NThis is a powerful seeing, Dialogue: 0,0:39:49.10,0:39:51.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'Something feels not satisfied'. Dialogue: 0,0:39:51.61,0:39:54.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That which feels not satisfied, Dialogue: 0,0:39:54.32,0:39:57.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is it personal or impersonal? Dialogue: 0,0:39:57.27,0:40:00.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] It's personal.\N[Mooji] Personal. Dialogue: 0,0:40:00.49,0:40:04.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] You see, if that gets you each time,\Nlike the person goes, Dialogue: 0,0:40:04.50,0:40:07.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'Yes, I know Guruji, \Nbut you know, I can't get ...' Dialogue: 0,0:40:07.97,0:40:10.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Who is speaking?\N[Q.1] The person. Dialogue: 0,0:40:10.51,0:40:12.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Yeah.\N[Q.1] Yeah. Dialogue: 0,0:40:12.59,0:40:15.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] So we will finish on that note? Dialogue: 0,0:40:15.26,0:40:21.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] Uh, person? No. [laughs]\N[M.] Thank you. OK. Where? Dialogue: 0,0:40:29.12,0:40:33.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Mooji] What does finish mean? Dialogue: 0,0:40:33.51,0:40:37.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] Just this conversation.\NFinish the conversation. Dialogue: 0,0:40:37.88,0:40:43.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] The conversation can finish \Nin its oral manifestation. Dialogue: 0,0:40:43.62,0:40:46.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It may go to be\Nsome kind of little stuff Dialogue: 0,0:40:46.55,0:40:49.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the mind that feels like,\N'Yeah, I don't know. Dialogue: 0,0:40:49.82,0:40:53.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had a talk with Mooji,\Nand it was really clear, Dialogue: 0,0:40:53.01,0:40:55.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but now it's not clear.'\NIs a report from? Dialogue: 0,0:40:55.95,0:40:58.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] The mind.\N[M.] From the mind. Dialogue: 0,0:40:58.23,0:41:02.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Mooji] And is that ultimate?\N[Q.1] No. Dialogue: 0,0:41:02.42,0:41:06.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Mooji] No. What is ultimate? Dialogue: 0,0:41:06.32,0:41:09.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] That which is aware of this. Dialogue: 0,0:41:09.57,0:41:12.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Mooji] Yes, yes. Dialogue: 0,0:41:12.03,0:41:15.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Which is where? Dialogue: 0,0:41:15.51,0:41:18.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] It's nowhere. Dialogue: 0,0:41:18.66,0:41:22.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Mooji] Why are you smiling? \N[Questioner laughs] Dialogue: 0,0:41:28.42,0:41:34.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Mooji] So, do you have a problem? Dialogue: 0,0:41:34.00,0:41:37.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] No. \N[both laugh] Dialogue: 0,0:41:37.39,0:41:42.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Can you, from this place of answering,\Never have a problem? Dialogue: 0,0:41:42.67,0:41:45.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] No. No. Dialogue: 0,0:41:50.91,0:41:55.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Mooji] Are you sad or happy about this? Dialogue: 0,0:41:59.54,0:42:02.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] Nothing.\N[Mooji] Very good. Dialogue: 0,0:42:04.71,0:42:09.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] More subtle than even happy. Dialogue: 0,0:42:13.28,0:42:16.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Mooji] Yeah. We're good? Dialogue: 0,0:42:19.39,0:42:22.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you go walking \Nand the mind comes again and says, Dialogue: 0,0:42:22.85,0:42:26.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'I can't remember anything about that'. Dialogue: 0,0:42:26.85,0:42:31.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'I'm going to try and see\Nif I can get that mood back.' Was it a mood? Dialogue: 0,0:42:31.29,0:42:33.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] No.\N[M.] It's not a mood. Dialogue: 0,0:42:33.99,0:42:36.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Can you lose this? Dialogue: 0,0:42:38.46,0:42:40.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] No.\N[M.] No. Dialogue: 0,0:42:42.22,0:42:46.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Can you possess this?\N[Q.1] No. Dialogue: 0,0:42:49.40,0:42:52.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Very good. Dialogue: 0,0:42:56.23,0:42:58.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] I'm happy. Very good. Dialogue: 0,0:42:58.94,0:43:02.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, the rest I don't have to read, no? Dialogue: 0,0:43:02.68,0:43:06.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'I don't know how to be aware,\Nthat I am aware.' Dialogue: 0,0:43:06.35,0:43:08.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Questioner laughs] Dialogue: 0,0:43:08.84,0:43:14.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'I still see this 'I'-identity as real.\NPlease help. Mia.' Dialogue: 0,0:43:14.67,0:43:16.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Do we need?\N[Q.1] No. Dialogue: 0,0:43:16.98,0:43:21.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M,] Very good. Can I keep it?\N[Q.1] Yes. I mean, throw it. Dialogue: 0,0:43:21.80,0:43:25.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Throw it, keep it.\NI'm happy you're like this. It's good. Dialogue: 0,0:43:25.86,0:43:31.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] You don't need to keep it.\N[M.] Because this is ... [the letter] Dialogue: 0,0:43:31.24,0:43:37.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] I call it an auspicious reaching out \Nto clarify something. Dialogue: 0,0:43:37.15,0:43:42.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And to that extent, it's very ... Dialogue: 0,0:43:42.04,0:43:45.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, it's not a game. Dialogue: 0,0:43:45.05,0:43:50.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We can say it is like a game,\Nbut it's not a cynical game. Dialogue: 0,0:43:50.49,0:43:57.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's, you may say, a game or a play or, Dialogue: 0,0:43:57.19,0:44:02.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,something that needs to happen Dialogue: 0,0:44:02.10,0:44:06.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the human expression of consciousness, Dialogue: 0,0:44:06.32,0:44:11.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when it comes to a stage\Nwhere its world is not working. Dialogue: 0,0:44:11.04,0:44:14.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I don't see that as a disaster. Dialogue: 0,0:44:14.08,0:44:17.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I see it as an opportunity \Nto look behind the scene. Dialogue: 0,0:44:17.94,0:44:22.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] Yes, yes.\NI want to take every opportunity to look. Dialogue: 0,0:44:22.99,0:44:26.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] OK. Now? Right now? Dialogue: 0,0:44:26.71,0:44:30.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] Always, yes, now.\N[M.] Yes. OK. Dialogue: 0,0:44:30.60,0:44:33.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Do you need to look further now? Dialogue: 0,0:44:33.86,0:44:36.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] I can do, yes.\N[Mooji] Yes. Dialogue: 0,0:44:36.79,0:44:40.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Yes. Good.\N[Q.1] Yes, yes. [laughs] Dialogue: 0,0:44:40.33,0:44:44.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Thank you. Very good. Dialogue: 0,0:44:47.74,0:44:50.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And you don't need to talk \Nto anybody about it. Dialogue: 0,0:44:50.78,0:44:53.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just you sit with that, and watch. Dialogue: 0,0:44:53.78,0:45:00.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And however tricky the mind can be,\Nyou remember, it is secondary. Dialogue: 0,0:45:00.60,0:45:03.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That which is primary, is seeing that. Dialogue: 0,0:45:03.95,0:45:08.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the mind can come in the form \Nof thought or moods or sensation, Dialogue: 0,0:45:08.40,0:45:10.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it can appear like confusion, Dialogue: 0,0:45:10.69,0:45:16.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it appears as identity, \Nbut it's still only appearing. Dialogue: 0,0:45:16.11,0:45:19.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Can the Self appear?\N[Q.1] No. Dialogue: 0,0:45:19.66,0:45:21.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Mooji] No. Dialogue: 0,0:45:21.66,0:45:26.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it causes the appearing of the mind play \Nand the diversity, Dialogue: 0,0:45:26.49,0:45:31.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it itself is indescribable, actually. Dialogue: 0,0:45:34.41,0:45:37.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So at this point I would say, \Nsit and contemplate that. Dialogue: 0,0:45:37.96,0:45:41.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] Yes.\N[M.] Yes. That's all you have to do. Dialogue: 0,0:45:41.26,0:45:47.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You see, it sounds as though\Nfrom what you write, somebody might think, Dialogue: 0,0:45:47.21,0:45:49.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'Wow, I feel she's in real trouble'. Dialogue: 0,0:45:49.67,0:45:52.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But for me, I say, what an opportunity, Dialogue: 0,0:45:52.19,0:45:55.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I got to find out from you,\Nwe can look together. Dialogue: 0,0:45:55.28,0:45:58.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it's all in you. It's all you. Dialogue: 0,0:46:02.05,0:46:04.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Very good. Dialogue: 0,0:46:05.51,0:46:08.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Would you like some tea, or get something?\NAre you OK? Dialogue: 0,0:46:08.92,0:46:11.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] I think there's food waiting for me. Dialogue: 0,0:46:11.63,0:46:14.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Go and eat the food now, it's cold. Dialogue: 0,0:46:14.21,0:46:18.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's the only food that's worth\Neating cold right now. Dialogue: 0,0:46:18.34,0:46:23.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you. Wonderful, darling.\NThank you, thank you, thank you. Dialogue: 0,0:46:23.73,0:46:28.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] Thank you Guruji.\N[M.] Yes. See you in a bit. Dialogue: 0,0:46:28.15,0:46:32.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] OK. OK. \N[Q.1] Thank you. Dialogue: 0,0:46:37.47,0:46:41.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Mooji] If you are earnest,\Nyou can walk the same road. Dialogue: 0,0:46:41.18,0:46:43.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's fresh every time. Dialogue: 0,0:46:46.85,0:46:50.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Questioner 2] Babaji, \Nthis thing that something was missing, Dialogue: 0,0:46:50.79,0:46:53.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.2] people brought to you many times, Dialogue: 0,0:46:53.31,0:46:55.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.2] 'Yes, I do the exercise, Dialogue: 0,0:46:55.31,0:46:58.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,everything's great,\Nbut something is missing'. Dialogue: 0,0:46:58.22,0:47:00.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And there was a moment when I recognised, Dialogue: 0,0:47:00.86,0:47:05.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'Oh, wow, I have this thought'.\NI really needed to look into that. Dialogue: 0,0:47:05.04,0:47:08.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it came to me,\Nthat due to the habit of having a shape, Dialogue: 0,0:47:08.78,0:47:13.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's as though something is looking\Nfor the shape within the shapeless. Dialogue: 0,0:47:13.30,0:47:16.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this gives you an idea\Nthat something is missing. Dialogue: 0,0:47:16.65,0:47:19.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then,\Nanother thing that you keep telling us, Dialogue: 0,0:47:19.74,0:47:22.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'Can you bear your own emptiness?' Dialogue: 0,0:47:22.46,0:47:27.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it's like,\Nit just clicked in a different way. Dialogue: 0,0:47:27.02,0:47:30.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That it's not bothersome anymore \Nwhen it comes. Dialogue: 0,0:47:30.18,0:47:35.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] We are used to possessing some \Nphenomenal gain. Dialogue: 0,0:47:35.06,0:47:38.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We say, 'Yes, but something is missing'. Dialogue: 0,0:47:38.29,0:47:43.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sometimes I might put it ... Dialogue: 0,0:47:48.79,0:47:54.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What is saying that something is missing? Dialogue: 0,0:47:54.76,0:48:00.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And, you know,\Nwe are in a kind of 'end of game' moment. Dialogue: 0,0:48:00.97,0:48:02.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'The mind?' OK. Dialogue: 0,0:48:02.100,0:48:07.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What is seeing the mind,\Nsaying something is missing? Dialogue: 0,0:48:07.21,0:48:09.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'Oh, I can't see that.' Dialogue: 0,0:48:09.57,0:48:12.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Does that mean, it doesn't exist?\NDo you see? Dialogue: 0,0:48:12.97,0:48:15.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'I', who can't see it? Dialogue: 0,0:48:15.07,0:48:20.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Even the one who is saying, 'I can't see it',\Nis also seen from it. Dialogue: 0,0:48:20.01,0:48:22.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] But this, we come to something ... Dialogue: 0,0:48:22.80,0:48:25.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Friend] Could you say that again?\N[M.] What? Dialogue: 0,0:48:25.64,0:48:30.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Even the one who is saying,\N'I can't see what is seeing this', Dialogue: 0,0:48:30.34,0:48:32.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is itself seen, in this. Dialogue: 0,0:48:32.85,0:48:35.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But there is something that feels like, Dialogue: 0,0:48:35.52,0:48:39.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'I need a concrete conclusion'. Dialogue: 0,0:48:42.43,0:48:49.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And any concrete conclusion \Nis also just phenomenal. Dialogue: 0,0:48:49.26,0:48:53.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this is why I say,\NYou cannot bear your own emptiness. Dialogue: 0,0:48:53.06,0:48:57.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because something is relying on a trophy. Dialogue: 0,0:48:57.97,0:49:02.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But both the trophy and the one gaining it,\Naren't real, either. Dialogue: 0,0:49:02.29,0:49:04.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Like this. Dialogue: 0,0:49:04.31,0:49:09.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it can look like, \Nit's kind of mental, OK? Dialogue: 0,0:49:09.89,0:49:14.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's like the sword of wisdom can look like, Dialogue: 0,0:49:14.11,0:49:17.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'Hmmm, but it's made out of cardboard'. Dialogue: 0,0:49:17.67,0:49:23.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It doesn't matter what it thinks,\Nbut, yes ... Dialogue: 0,0:49:25.62,0:49:32.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is the heart of Advaita contemplation! Dialogue: 0,0:49:32.54,0:49:35.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is the ... Dialogue: 0,0:49:38.62,0:49:42.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is no next, after this. Dialogue: 0,0:49:42.20,0:49:44.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do you understand?\NUnless we go out. Dialogue: 0,0:49:44.53,0:49:48.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Which is fine, but go out after! Dialogue: 0,0:49:48.30,0:49:50.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When you go out during,\Nwhen we are looking, Dialogue: 0,0:49:50.92,0:49:54.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,something wants to escape.\NThat's fine, it's OK. Dialogue: 0,0:49:54.56,0:49:58.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is that you?\NYou say, 'Kind of ...' Dialogue: 0,0:49:58.91,0:50:02.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because you're used to this being also mind,\Nand ... Dialogue: 0,0:50:02.53,0:50:05.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] So anyway, we can just stop there.\N[F.] Yes. Dialogue: 0,0:50:05.72,0:50:08.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Yes, the axe has fallen. Dialogue: 0,0:50:08.70,0:50:12.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But the head is talking. Dialogue: 0,0:50:12.19,0:50:14.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[laughter] Dialogue: 0,0:50:14.89,0:50:19.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes, the axe has fallen, \Nbut the head is talking. Dialogue: 0,0:50:27.16,0:50:30.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Copyright 2025 Mooji Media Ltd.\NAll Rights Reserved. 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