[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,0:00:08.96,0:00:12.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How to Be Free From Ego Dialogue: 0,0:00:12.68,0:00:15.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,5 November 2024\N(with subtitles) Dialogue: 0,0:00:18.27,0:00:21.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Can I just read it out?\N[Q.1] Yes. Dialogue: 0,0:00:21.18,0:00:23.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] You write, 'Dear Guruji. Dialogue: 0,0:00:23.29,0:00:27.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I am too ashamed and afraid to speak to you. Dialogue: 0,0:00:27.40,0:00:31.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't know how to observe with detachment. Dialogue: 0,0:00:31.81,0:00:35.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't know how to be aware\Nthat I am aware. Dialogue: 0,0:00:35.45,0:00:39.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I still see this 'I' identity as real.\NPlease help me.' Dialogue: 0,0:00:39.89,0:00:42.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's a very, very honest thing. Dialogue: 0,0:00:42.67,0:00:45.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I wish people would write more like this and say. Dialogue: 0,0:00:45.80,0:00:49.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because some people,\Nthey hold back and they don't say. Dialogue: 0,0:00:49.32,0:00:51.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I appreciate that you can say it, Dialogue: 0,0:00:51.59,0:00:54.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because I can kind of have a chance Dialogue: 0,0:00:54.57,0:00:58.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to share with you in a simple way. Dialogue: 0,0:00:59.30,0:01:04.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Mooji] 'I don't know\Nhow to observe with detachment.' Dialogue: 0,0:01:07.39,0:01:12.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Actually, we're observing with detachment\Non many things, Dialogue: 0,0:01:12.42,0:01:16.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if they don't matter to you,\Nyou understand? Dialogue: 0,0:01:16.17,0:01:19.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If things don't matter to you, \Nyou still see them, Dialogue: 0,0:01:19.38,0:01:21.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but you're not distracted by them. Dialogue: 0,0:01:21.77,0:01:25.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Everybody, same thing.\NSo that's the first part. Dialogue: 0,0:01:25.38,0:01:29.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is no such thing as \Nnot observing with detachment. Dialogue: 0,0:01:29.24,0:01:33.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If, suppose everything you see,\Nevery situation you had, Dialogue: 0,0:01:33.76,0:01:36.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you had to remember.\NIt's just alive in you. Dialogue: 0,0:01:36.96,0:01:40.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We'll be completely crazy.\NNobody can do. Dialogue: 0,0:01:40.00,0:01:46.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is the mechanism \Nof our true natural state, Dialogue: 0,0:01:46.39,0:01:49.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's working all the time to ... Dialogue: 0,0:01:49.93,0:01:52.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Like you can walk through here,\Nwalk up there, Dialogue: 0,0:01:52.82,0:01:56.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you don't have to notice every step.\NYou don't notice everything. Dialogue: 0,0:01:56.68,0:02:02.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You meet a person, 'Hi. Good morning'. \NYou pass. You don't have to retain that. Dialogue: 0,0:02:02.37,0:02:08.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So a natural detachment \Nis functioning inside us. Dialogue: 0,0:02:10.91,0:02:15.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's already there, detachment. Dialogue: 0,0:02:15.19,0:02:19.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If we were not able to detach \Nand yet we are perceiving, Dialogue: 0,0:02:19.82,0:02:22.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we would be in trouble. Dialogue: 0,0:02:22.87,0:02:30.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, first of all, know that it's natural \Nthat you meet people ... Dialogue: 0,0:02:30.26,0:02:34.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's the things that matter to you, Dialogue: 0,0:02:34.61,0:02:39.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you start to become more attached to. Dialogue: 0,0:02:39.12,0:02:43.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Like it has meaning \Nand so I have to remember this thing. Dialogue: 0,0:02:43.00,0:02:46.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it's almost like \Nyou take a kind of photograph Dialogue: 0,0:02:46.80,0:02:50.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in some kind of way inside,\Nit's like that matters, Dialogue: 0,0:02:50.09,0:02:54.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so then it become important.\NSo like this, when you say, Dialogue: 0,0:02:54.41,0:02:58.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'I don't know how to observe with detachment.' Dialogue: 0,0:02:58.85,0:03:05.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If I say, But you're doing it anyway \Nwith many things. Dialogue: 0,0:03:05.41,0:03:08.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If I walk through from the front\Nto the back here, Dialogue: 0,0:03:08.51,0:03:13.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I say to everybody as we're walking through,\NBe detached from everything, Dialogue: 0,0:03:13.31,0:03:17.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then it becomes a problem,\Nbecause it turns it into a strangeness. Dialogue: 0,0:03:17.14,0:03:20.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because naturally you're detached from things. Dialogue: 0,0:03:20.14,0:03:25.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You come to satsang\Nand I'm teaching you something much more powerful Dialogue: 0,0:03:25.02,0:03:30.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and to bring awareness to something \Nthat's already natural for you. Dialogue: 0,0:03:30.09,0:03:36.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I want it to be natural for you\Neven with things that matter. Dialogue: 0,0:03:36.57,0:03:39.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] Yes, that's my problem. Dialogue: 0,0:03:39.01,0:03:44.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Mooji] Yeah, yeah, yeah. \NIt's a problem for everybody. Dialogue: 0,0:03:44.61,0:03:47.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,With things that don't matter,\Nno problem. Dialogue: 0,0:03:47.43,0:03:51.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You don't even have to say,\N'I'm going to be detached from that.' Dialogue: 0,0:03:51.22,0:03:54.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You don't even have to say that.\NYou don't have to think. Dialogue: 0,0:03:54.33,0:03:58.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You're just senses, eyes, life.\NYou meet these things. Nothing. Dialogue: 0,0:03:58.50,0:04:01.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just move through them. You retain your peace. Dialogue: 0,0:04:01.78,0:04:05.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But about the things that you say matter,\Nand what makes them matter? Dialogue: 0,0:04:05.41,0:04:10.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Let's slow down a bit and say,\Nwhat makes some things matter? Dialogue: 0,0:04:10.15,0:04:17.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's an open question.\NWhy do they matter? Dialogue: 0,0:04:17.16,0:04:21.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Some Dialogue: 0,0:04:21.01,0:04:23.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,relationship, some concepts, Dialogue: 0,0:04:23.77,0:04:26.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,OK, this is family, this is my job, Dialogue: 0,0:04:26.64,0:04:29.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this is my relationship,\Nand these things matter. Dialogue: 0,0:04:29.91,0:04:34.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So if somebody else's relationship \Nis in trouble, it's no problem for you. Dialogue: 0,0:04:34.58,0:04:38.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But if you have a relationship problem,\Nit matters for you. Dialogue: 0,0:04:38.66,0:04:43.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So what is this thing that I'm talking about,\Nto observe with detachment? Dialogue: 0,0:04:43.56,0:04:46.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's just a little step further\Nthan what I say, Dialogue: 0,0:04:46.94,0:04:50.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you walk through,\Nyou're naturally detached anyway. Dialogue: 0,0:04:50.07,0:04:54.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What I'm asking about, \Nlearning to observe with detachment, Dialogue: 0,0:04:54.56,0:04:58.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is to bring that detachment ... Dialogue: 0,0:04:58.50,0:05:04.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because whatever you see,\Nnothing sticks actually. A natural thing. Dialogue: 0,0:05:04.16,0:05:08.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But when things matter, your relationship, Dialogue: 0,0:05:08.46,0:05:11.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what you want, your work and so on, Dialogue: 0,0:05:11.89,0:05:16.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it creates a structure in your mind Dialogue: 0,0:05:16.08,0:05:19.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you have to take care of that. Dialogue: 0,0:05:19.46,0:05:23.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, I'm not going into all of these things. Dialogue: 0,0:05:23.36,0:05:28.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm saying that, \NOK, what is attachment, is to... Dialogue: 0,0:05:30.30,0:05:36.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want you to be aware of a space within you, Dialogue: 0,0:05:36.52,0:05:45.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is not changed\Nby whatever is happening around you. Dialogue: 0,0:05:45.49,0:05:50.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's alive. It's not dead, but it's not, Dialogue: 0,0:05:50.24,0:05:57.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's not attached to the outcome \Nof things so deeply. Dialogue: 0,0:05:57.37,0:06:04.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't know if I'm putting it right.\NI'm trying to find an example. Dialogue: 0,0:06:04.31,0:06:10.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] I feel like there is no space.\NIt's just all mind and identity. Dialogue: 0,0:06:10.10,0:06:12.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] If you are able to see mind, Dialogue: 0,0:06:12.74,0:06:16.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you must be looking from \Nsome place that's not mind. Dialogue: 0,0:06:16.38,0:06:20.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is true for everybody.\NJust you're not aware that it's like that. Dialogue: 0,0:06:20.86,0:06:26.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Actually, what I'm saying is \Nactually so powerfully true for you Dialogue: 0,0:06:26.06,0:06:28.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when you're aware of it. Dialogue: 0,0:06:28.96,0:06:35.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And largely, the teachings\Nand the practice of what we do here Dialogue: 0,0:06:35.00,0:06:38.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is to make you more aware of something about you Dialogue: 0,0:06:38.55,0:06:41.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you're not so aware of, for everybody. Dialogue: 0,0:06:41.67,0:06:46.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And because we're not aware\Nin the place that you should be aware Dialogue: 0,0:06:46.04,0:06:48.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of your inmost being. Dialogue: 0,0:06:48.27,0:06:50.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can't see that. Dialogue: 0,0:06:50.90,0:06:54.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's the other thing.\NEverything else you can see. Dialogue: 0,0:06:54.52,0:06:57.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Every relationship, every object you can see. Dialogue: 0,0:06:57.97,0:07:00.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Every thought you can remember, \Nyou can think. Dialogue: 0,0:07:00.82,0:07:05.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're all called 'other',\Neverything you can see. Dialogue: 0,0:07:05.73,0:07:08.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But your Self you cannot see. Dialogue: 0,0:07:08.32,0:07:10.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You get that? Dialogue: 0,0:07:10.36,0:07:15.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can say,\N'Oh, this is my body. This is my ring. Dialogue: 0,0:07:15.22,0:07:18.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is my house. This is my car.' Dialogue: 0,0:07:18.05,0:07:23.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My, my, my. This belongs to me. \NMy, my, my. Everything belongs to you. Dialogue: 0,0:07:23.83,0:07:27.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is my family. This is my mother.\NThis is my house. Dialogue: 0,0:07:27.84,0:07:32.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is my country. This is my passport.\NThis is my birth certificate. Dialogue: 0,0:07:32.25,0:07:36.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All 'my', meaning they belong to you. Dialogue: 0,0:07:36.17,0:07:41.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But can you say, \NThis is my my? This is my me?' Dialogue: 0,0:07:41.86,0:07:47.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can't say, 'This is my me.'\NWhy? Dialogue: 0,0:07:47.74,0:07:50.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] Because I cannot see this. Dialogue: 0,0:07:50.86,0:07:54.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Yes.\NSo because you can't see it, Dialogue: 0,0:07:54.16,0:07:58.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] does it mean it's not there?\N[Q.1] No. Dialogue: 0,0:07:58.23,0:08:00.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Right.\NSo there's something in the world, Dialogue: 0,0:08:00.100,0:08:04.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,everything you can see,\Nbut something you cannot see. Dialogue: 0,0:08:04.61,0:08:08.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Everything you can see,\Nbut something you cannot see. Dialogue: 0,0:08:08.25,0:08:14.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And yet you cannot deny that it is real, isn't it?\NYou know you are. Dialogue: 0,0:08:14.32,0:08:17.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, I'm going to zoom in a little bit closer Dialogue: 0,0:08:17.85,0:08:22.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in this feeling that, 'Yes, I know I am.' Dialogue: 0,0:08:24.61,0:08:27.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This thing which you cannot see, Dialogue: 0,0:08:27.79,0:08:32.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you say, 'You know it is here.'\NI mean, it's the first fact, Dialogue: 0,0:08:32.16,0:08:36.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because if it's not here,\Nnothing else is here, isn't it? Dialogue: 0,0:08:36.44,0:08:39.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But it cannot be seen, yeah? Dialogue: 0,0:08:40.83,0:08:44.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,OK, so we are back to this point. Dialogue: 0,0:08:44.38,0:08:48.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Everything you can see, everything; Dialogue: 0,0:08:48.21,0:08:54.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your thoughts, feelings, objects, people, Dialogue: 0,0:08:54.34,0:08:58.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your feelings, all of these things, you can see. Dialogue: 0,0:08:58.77,0:09:04.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can even see\Nthe quality of your sight, isn't it? Dialogue: 0,0:09:04.24,0:09:07.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So if you went to the optician\Nand he says, Dialogue: 0,0:09:07.54,0:09:11.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'Could you tell me something, \Nwhy you come here?' Dialogue: 0,0:09:11.00,0:09:16.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You said, 'Actually, I'm not able to see \Nor focus on things so well.' Dialogue: 0,0:09:16.50,0:09:19.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He said, 'In both eyes?' Dialogue: 0,0:09:19.12,0:09:23.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You say, 'No, no, in the right eye.'\N'OK, tell me something.' Dialogue: 0,0:09:23.98,0:09:29.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You said, 'In the left eye, I can see \Nmaybe 80% of what it should be, Dialogue: 0,0:09:29.20,0:09:32.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but in the right eye it's like about 50.' Dialogue: 0,0:09:32.13,0:09:37.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So something must be seeing sight, isn't it? Dialogue: 0,0:09:37.57,0:09:41.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The capacity is there.\NYou don't have to ask anybody. Dialogue: 0,0:09:41.20,0:09:45.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can see, yeah,\Nsomething is aware of even the sight Dialogue: 0,0:09:45.51,0:09:48.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is not functioning well. Dialogue: 0,0:09:48.56,0:09:55.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So something must be behind even the sight. Dialogue: 0,0:09:55.40,0:09:59.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You're also aware of feelings,\Nemotion, Dialogue: 0,0:09:59.60,0:10:05.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sense of time. If somebody said,\N'Yesterday something happened', Dialogue: 0,0:10:05.37,0:10:09.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you're aware of what that means.\NEverything you're aware of. Dialogue: 0,0:10:09.33,0:10:12.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Everything you can see. Dialogue: 0,0:10:12.26,0:10:16.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But your Self, can you see? Dialogue: 0,0:10:16.04,0:10:19.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why? Dialogue: 0,0:10:19.51,0:10:23.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Your body you can see.\NYour body you can see. Dialogue: 0,0:10:23.26,0:10:27.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can see your smile.\NYou can see your body. Dialogue: 0,0:10:27.11,0:10:29.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can see everything. Dialogue: 0,0:10:29.95,0:10:36.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But your Self, \Nis seeing your body [seeing] your Self? Dialogue: 0,0:10:36.28,0:10:39.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why not? Dialogue: 0,0:10:43.66,0:10:46.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] Because something is aware of ...\N[M.] Yeah. Dialogue: 0,0:10:46.71,0:10:49.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] ... of the body.\N[M.] Yes. Dialogue: 0,0:10:49.42,0:10:53.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That something which is aware of the body\Ncannot be seen. Dialogue: 0,0:10:53.19,0:10:56.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] You're saying, no?\N[Q.1] Yeah. Dialogue: 0,0:10:57.73,0:11:00.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Can it see sickness? Dialogue: 0,0:11:00.89,0:11:04.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It can know, 'I'm not feeling well'. Dialogue: 0,0:11:04.32,0:11:07.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'I'm not feeling ...'\NIt knows emotion. Dialogue: 0,0:11:07.48,0:11:10.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'I'm feeling a little a bit uncomfortable.' Dialogue: 0,0:11:10.86,0:11:14.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It sees everything.\NBut itself it cannot see. Dialogue: 0,0:11:14.61,0:11:17.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You're saying? Yeah. Dialogue: 0,0:11:17.60,0:11:23.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why can it see everything,\Nbut it cannot see itself? Dialogue: 0,0:11:26.86,0:11:30.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] This I don't know. Dialogue: 0,0:11:31.36,0:11:33.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] This which cannot ... Dialogue: 0,0:11:33.51,0:11:37.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can see everything,\Nbut you cannot see your Self. Dialogue: 0,0:11:37.85,0:11:40.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This which you cannot see, Dialogue: 0,0:11:40.52,0:11:45.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yet you cannot deny it,\Nthis is your Self. Dialogue: 0,0:11:52.21,0:11:57.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Everything you can see,\Nyour feelings, thoughts, Dialogue: 0,0:11:57.26,0:12:00.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the function of intellect. Dialogue: 0,0:12:00.49,0:12:02.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Everything you can see. Dialogue: 0,0:12:02.67,0:12:06.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But that which is seeing them,\Nyou say, 'I can see.' [VERIFY] Dialogue: 0,0:12:06.96,0:12:11.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's sort of,\Nthe word 'I' represents this thing, Dialogue: 0,0:12:11.13,0:12:14.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it cannot be seen. Dialogue: 0,0:12:14.38,0:12:16.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Even your mother can come and say, Dialogue: 0,0:12:16.85,0:12:19.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'Darling, it's nice to see you.' Dialogue: 0,0:12:19.22,0:12:22.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What is the 'you' that she's seeing? Dialogue: 0,0:12:22.69,0:12:25.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] The body.\N[M.] The body. Dialogue: 0,0:12:25.22,0:12:29.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And she's seeing her affection,\Nher memory of you. Dialogue: 0,0:12:29.59,0:12:32.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All this she puts to become you. Dialogue: 0,0:12:32.19,0:12:35.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'Darling, it's so nice.\NI haven't seen you for a long time.' Dialogue: 0,0:12:35.94,0:12:39.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So whatever someone says,\N'It's good to see you. Dialogue: 0,0:12:39.28,0:12:42.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Where have you been? You put on weight'\Nor, 'You lost some.' Dialogue: 0,0:12:42.95,0:12:45.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All of this is to do with what? Dialogue: 0,0:12:45.23,0:12:49.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] Appearance.\N[M.] Your form and appearance, OK? Dialogue: 0,0:12:49.67,0:12:52.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] So can she see You? Dialogue: 0,0:12:52.68,0:12:58.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Can you see You? Is that scary? Dialogue: 0,0:12:58.41,0:13:03.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] No, it's not scary, but it's ... Dialogue: 0,0:13:03.65,0:13:06.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Something is missing or feels like ... Dialogue: 0,0:13:06.91,0:13:12.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] OK, take a moment \Nand think about what is missing. Dialogue: 0,0:13:16.13,0:13:20.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You cannot see your True Self. Dialogue: 0,0:13:20.37,0:13:25.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I also cannot see my True Self. Dialogue: 0,0:13:25.24,0:13:31.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why?\NBecause it's not an object. Dialogue: 0,0:13:31.02,0:13:35.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's not even a thought. Dialogue: 0,0:13:35.62,0:13:40.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] But you say to stay as this.\NBut... [laughs] Dialogue: 0,0:13:40.16,0:13:44.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Well. OK, OK, thank you.\NI say to stay as this. Why? Dialogue: 0,0:13:44.74,0:13:50.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because, first of all,\Nyou imagine something else to be yourself. Dialogue: 0,0:13:50.70,0:13:55.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You call yourself a woman,\Na daughter, you're from this country, Dialogue: 0,0:13:55.25,0:13:58.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,my parents, I'm ... Whatever. Like this. Dialogue: 0,0:13:58.10,0:14:04.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we're used to associating some quality\Nthat represents you. Dialogue: 0,0:14:04.23,0:14:09.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But really, you're earlier than this,\Nin the purity. Dialogue: 0,0:14:09.14,0:14:12.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The one that is aware,\Nthat says ... Dialogue: 0,0:14:12.38,0:14:18.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You're talking on the phone,\N'I'm 27 years old. I've got two children. Dialogue: 0,0:14:18.04,0:14:22.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm married. I live in this place.' Dialogue: 0,0:14:22.34,0:14:25.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That one, is what? Dialogue: 0,0:14:25.24,0:14:27.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] Person.\N[M.] The person. Dialogue: 0,0:14:27.68,0:14:33.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is the person and the Self,\Nthe True Self, is the same thing? Dialogue: 0,0:14:33.15,0:14:36.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] No. Dialogue: 0,0:14:36.13,0:14:42.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Does that bring a feeling of discomfort? Dialogue: 0,0:14:42.58,0:14:47.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No. No. Because there's nothing \Nyou have to do to know that. Dialogue: 0,0:14:47.90,0:14:49.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You, something knows. Dialogue: 0,0:14:49.93,0:14:54.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yet most people in the world,\Nhave not even looked like this. Dialogue: 0,0:14:54.03,0:14:57.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They have not even thought about this, Dialogue: 0,0:14:57.26,0:15:00.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because your world starts with your person. Dialogue: 0,0:15:00.65,0:15:03.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If I employ you, I look at you, I interview, Dialogue: 0,0:15:03.60,0:15:07.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I say, Tell me about yourself.\NYou say, 'I studied this in university. Dialogue: 0,0:15:07.90,0:15:12.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I lived in South Africa for a while. I travelled.'\NInformation, information. Dialogue: 0,0:15:12.36,0:15:15.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Information cannot be You. Dialogue: 0,0:15:15.10,0:15:22.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's about your person. \NWhich is, what is the person? Dialogue: 0,0:15:22.08,0:15:25.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] This identity is person.\N[M.] Yes, yes. Dialogue: 0,0:15:25.21,0:15:29.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Can you see the identity person? Dialogue: 0,0:15:29.00,0:15:33.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.] Yeah.\N[M.] What does it look like? Dialogue: 0,0:15:34.85,0:15:38.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] Some tightness, some attachment. Dialogue: 0,0:15:38.61,0:15:41.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Attachment.\N[Q.1] To ideas. Dialogue: 0,0:15:41.40,0:15:46.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Yes. Attachment to some ideas, OK. Dialogue: 0,0:15:46.10,0:15:50.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But the person is also an idea. Dialogue: 0,0:15:50.35,0:15:54.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] This is the problem,\Nbecause it really feels real. So, yeah. Dialogue: 0,0:15:54.75,0:15:59.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Because it is the feeling 'I' in you, Dialogue: 0,0:15:59.59,0:16:04.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this 'I', it says,\N'I see', 'I think', 'I ...' Da, da, da. Dialogue: 0,0:16:04.62,0:16:11.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Who is the 'I' that thinks.\NWe're not sure, the person or the real Self? Dialogue: 0,0:16:11.63,0:16:16.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'I want'.\N'Yes, I know.' Dialogue: 0,0:16:16.62,0:16:20.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Who is the 'I' that knows? Dialogue: 0,0:16:20.09,0:16:23.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is it personal or impersonal? Dialogue: 0,0:16:23.90,0:16:28.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] Personal.\N[M.] It's personal. OK, good. Dialogue: 0,0:16:28.31,0:16:33.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] What sees it's impersonal? Dialogue: 0,0:16:33.33,0:16:37.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] I don't know what.\NI know it's something is seeing but ... Dialogue: 0,0:16:37.25,0:16:40.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Yes. It's the same answer. \NYou've given the answer already. Dialogue: 0,0:16:40.95,0:16:43.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It cannot be seen. Dialogue: 0,0:16:43.51,0:16:47.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is the most important discovery, Dialogue: 0,0:16:47.46,0:16:52.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because until you really\Nrealise this and know this, Dialogue: 0,0:16:52.23,0:16:56.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you take yourself to be an object\Nperceiving another object. Dialogue: 0,0:16:56.10,0:17:00.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The object being your person.\NAnd it's OK, it's OK. Dialogue: 0,0:17:00.12,0:17:04.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,God made it like that, \Nthat we would also be projected Dialogue: 0,0:17:04.17,0:17:07.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,into the world of thought \Nand feeling and association Dialogue: 0,0:17:07.96,0:17:10.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and say, 'This is me'.\NFor a while. Dialogue: 0,0:17:10.87,0:17:15.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But with this 'I', that works as the person, Dialogue: 0,0:17:15.75,0:17:21.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,its world and itself is never stable, Dialogue: 0,0:17:21.14,0:17:25.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because it has an identity. Dialogue: 0,0:17:25.12,0:17:30.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is the identity of the person\Nalways stable? No, no. Dialogue: 0,0:17:30.14,0:17:35.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But it tries with everything\Nto share that it is stable. Dialogue: 0,0:17:35.56,0:17:44.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because stable means, it's wise, it's real.\NIt's dependable. It's consistent. Dialogue: 0,0:17:44.20,0:17:46.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm just talking this through. Dialogue: 0,0:17:46.96,0:17:51.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I'm pointing to a deeper knowing \Nbehind this person Dialogue: 0,0:17:51.26,0:17:56.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that knows the person, that sees the person. Dialogue: 0,0:17:56.24,0:18:00.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That which is aware of the person ...\NYou're with me? Dialogue: 0,0:18:00.44,0:18:04.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is it attached to the person \Nor is the person attached to it? Dialogue: 0,0:18:04.41,0:18:07.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Take a moment. Dialogue: 0,0:18:11.07,0:18:15.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] It's not attached.\N[M.] It's not attached. Dialogue: 0,0:18:15.68,0:18:19.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Does it suffer from not being attached? Dialogue: 0,0:18:19.39,0:18:23.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] No. [laughs] Dialogue: 0,0:18:23.65,0:18:28.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] But I had to question you,\Nfor you to recede to that place, Dialogue: 0,0:18:28.34,0:18:30.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to say, 'It's not attached.' Dialogue: 0,0:18:30.86,0:18:33.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because where we are functioning normally Dialogue: 0,0:18:33.86,0:18:37.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is from the identity of the person,\Nwhich is attached. Dialogue: 0,0:18:37.60,0:18:40.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Which likes and dislikes. Dialogue: 0,0:18:40.04,0:18:42.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Who wants and doesn't want. Dialogue: 0,0:18:42.39,0:18:45.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Who thinks this and thinks that. Dialogue: 0,0:18:45.36,0:18:50.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And very much is in the function \Nof perceiving and living, no? Dialogue: 0,0:18:50.24,0:18:53.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, what I'm sharing,\Nis that, that's OK. Dialogue: 0,0:18:53.85,0:19:00.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But if you only are aware of yourself\Nas a person, with its world, Dialogue: 0,0:19:00.49,0:19:05.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you will never be totally happy.\NBecause it's not stable. Dialogue: 0,0:19:05.21,0:19:09.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Today, 'Ah, I'm so happy.\NI'm so ... Oh, so wonderful!' Dialogue: 0,0:19:09.22,0:19:13.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Tomorrow I see you ... [imitates struggling] Dialogue: 0,0:19:13.32,0:19:18.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I say, Mia, what's up?\N'It's OK, I don't want to talk about it.' Dialogue: 0,0:19:18.43,0:19:22.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Who is it, who is speaking? Person, no?\N[Q.1] Yes. Dialogue: 0,0:19:22.69,0:19:27.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] What does the Self say?\NWhat does the real Self say? Dialogue: 0,0:19:27.73,0:19:30.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is it important at all? Dialogue: 0,0:19:30.43,0:19:33.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] No. Is the Self important?\N[Q.1] No. Dialogue: 0,0:19:33.59,0:19:35.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] It's not important?\N[Q.1] No. Dialogue: 0,0:19:35.83,0:19:39.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Does that mean it's no good?\NIt's not significant? Dialogue: 0,0:19:39.79,0:19:43.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Self is not important?\NIt's not important? Dialogue: 0,0:19:43.96,0:19:47.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,OK, so what's the purpose\Nof it existing then? Dialogue: 0,0:19:47.47,0:19:50.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If other things after it are important,\Nlike the person; Dialogue: 0,0:19:50.80,0:19:54.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,personal identity is important,\Npersonal world is important, Dialogue: 0,0:19:54.36,0:19:56.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,personal attachment is important. Dialogue: 0,0:19:56.95,0:20:02.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But the one before all of this comes,\Nwhich cannot be removed, Dialogue: 0,0:20:02.52,0:20:06.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can the Self be killed? No. Dialogue: 0,0:20:06.57,0:20:14.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And you say, I like that, actually,\N'It's not important.' OK? Dialogue: 0,0:20:16.45,0:20:20.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] What is important? Dialogue: 0,0:20:20.71,0:20:25.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] I feel this exercise is important to do.\N[M.] Yes. Dialogue: 0,0:20:25.52,0:20:30.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Why is it important, the exercise? Dialogue: 0,0:20:33.75,0:20:36.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] To stabilise in this.\N[M.] Yes. Dialogue: 0,0:20:36.75,0:20:41.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Is it the Self, the inmost Self, \Nthat has to stabilise, Dialogue: 0,0:20:41.13,0:20:44.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] or something else has to stabilise?\N[Q.1] Something else. Dialogue: 0,0:20:44.87,0:20:46.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Right. Dialogue: 0,0:20:46.88,0:20:51.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why does it need to stabilise,\Nthe something else? Dialogue: 0,0:20:51.17,0:20:57.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] Not to get pulled into identity. Dialogue: 0,0:20:57.50,0:21:04.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Yes. What is it that gets pulled\Ninto identity, is it the Self? Dialogue: 0,0:21:04.26,0:21:08.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] Attention.\N[M.] Attention. Attention gets pulled. Dialogue: 0,0:21:08.32,0:21:11.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] So attention is very important.\N[Q.1] Yes. Dialogue: 0,0:21:11.77,0:21:15.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] When the attention gets pulled into identity, Dialogue: 0,0:21:15.95,0:21:18.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what knows it most deeply; Dialogue: 0,0:21:18.52,0:21:25.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the attention, the mind, the person, \Nor the inmost Self? Dialogue: 0,0:21:25.22,0:21:28.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] The Self. The inmost Self.\N[M.] The Self. Dialogue: 0,0:21:28.82,0:21:32.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Does it suffer?\N[Q.1] No. Dialogue: 0,0:21:32.03,0:21:34.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] No. Still it's important, Dialogue: 0,0:21:34.71,0:21:39.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because every time the attention \Ngoes out and forgets itself, Dialogue: 0,0:21:39.32,0:21:43.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] it forgets where it comes from.\N[Q.1] Yeah. [laughs] Dialogue: 0,0:21:43.27,0:21:48.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Every time the attention goes out,\Ngets involved in its projections, Dialogue: 0,0:21:48.36,0:21:50.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it causes some pain. Dialogue: 0,0:21:50.43,0:21:55.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It creates a kind of a world,\Nit creates emotion, Dialogue: 0,0:21:55.10,0:21:58.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it creates ups and downs, like this, Dialogue: 0,0:21:58.36,0:22:01.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and something is troubled by that. Dialogue: 0,0:22:01.32,0:22:04.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Maybe the person is troubled by that. Dialogue: 0,0:22:04.70,0:22:08.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And in our world, \Neverything is due to the person. Dialogue: 0,0:22:08.06,0:22:11.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's the person that takes \Nanother person to court. Dialogue: 0,0:22:11.29,0:22:16.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's the person that wins or lose.\NWhat about the Self? Dialogue: 0,0:22:18.35,0:22:21.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] Nothing. [laughs]\N[M.] Is it important to know this? Dialogue: 0,0:22:21.78,0:22:24.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] Yeah.\N[M.] Yeah. Dialogue: 0,0:22:24.27,0:22:29.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,OK, so when we speak about ...\NI'll come back to your letter now. Dialogue: 0,0:22:29.23,0:22:35.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You say, 'I don't know\Nhow to observe with detachment.' Dialogue: 0,0:22:35.94,0:22:40.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Does the Self need to know \Nhow to observe with detachment? Dialogue: 0,0:22:40.86,0:22:45.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Questioner shakes head, no]\N[M.] Why? Dialogue: 0,0:22:45.18,0:22:50.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] It doesn't need anything.\N[M.] It doesn't need anything. Dialogue: 0,0:22:50.23,0:22:53.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Yet everything is known to it. Dialogue: 0,0:22:53.95,0:22:57.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The play of the mind, \Nor da da da da, it knows, Dialogue: 0,0:22:57.82,0:23:02.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] but it's not impacted upon.\N[Q.1] No. Dialogue: 0,0:23:02.85,0:23:09.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] There is a link between \Nthe sense of the person and the inner Self. Dialogue: 0,0:23:09.50,0:23:16.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When the person,\Nwho cannot exist without the inner Self, Dialogue: 0,0:23:16.40,0:23:22.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when it gets into states of confusion and pain, Dialogue: 0,0:23:22.92,0:23:26.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if it doesn't realise its root as the inner Self, Dialogue: 0,0:23:26.79,0:23:29.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it goes floating off and trouble can come. Dialogue: 0,0:23:29.60,0:23:33.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Mental problems can come.\NSickness can come. Anger can come. Dialogue: 0,0:23:33.45,0:23:35.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Fear comes. Everything comes. Dialogue: 0,0:23:35.52,0:23:39.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it's very important that \Nthis personal sense Dialogue: 0,0:23:39.27,0:23:41.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,becomes aware of its root. Dialogue: 0,0:23:41.81,0:23:47.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] Yes, and when I try\Nto do this exercise, I cannot come to this. Dialogue: 0,0:23:47.96,0:23:53.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Who is doing the exercise?\N[Q.1] Yes, the mind and the person Dialogue: 0,0:23:53.03,0:23:58.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] and the one who wants to stop suffering.\N[M.] Right. Dialogue: 0,0:23:58.12,0:24:01.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] What knows this? Dialogue: 0,0:24:03.93,0:24:08.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What is aware of this?\NIs it the person-mind or the inner Self? Dialogue: 0,0:24:08.52,0:24:12.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] The inner Self.\N[M.] Yeah. Is the inner Self troubled? Dialogue: 0,0:24:12.31,0:24:14.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Q.1] No. Dialogue: 0,0:24:14.42,0:24:18.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[M.] Still, the exercise is good,\Nbecause this is the real yoga. Dialogue: 0,0:24:18.86,0:24:22.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yoga means the coming together into oneness, Dialogue: 0,0:24:22.96,0:24:28.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where the sense of the person \Nhas to rediscover its root. Dialogue: 0,0:24:28.97,0:24:32.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The person cannot live by itself. Dialogue: 0,0:24:32.11,0:24:37.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Even when it's not aware of the Self,\Nit still comes from the Self. Dialogue: 0,0:24:37.69,0:24:43.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So largely the human expression \Nof the consciousness self Dialogue: 0,0:24:43.07,0:24:46.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is self-aware as a person. Dialogue: 0,0:24:46.52,0:24:51.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so it can go for lifetimes,\Nin the human lifetime, living the person, Dialogue: 0,0:24:51.10,0:24:55.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because it's a big world, its dreams,\Nand 'I have to go do this. Dialogue: 0,0:24:55.16,0:25:00.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I like this, I don't like that,' and da da da.\NMaybe life after life. Dialogue: 0,0:25:00.09,0:25:03.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'This life I love, I love ice cream. \NI'd die for ice cream.' Dialogue: 0,0:25:03.77,0:25:09.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Next life, 'I can't stand ice cream.'\NThere's nothing consistent about it. Dialogue: 0,0:25:09.16,0:25:13.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Except that it cannot exist \Nwithout the real Self, Dialogue: 0,0:25:13.57,0:25:16.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it has intelligence also. Dialogue: 0,0:25:16.11,0:25:21.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, when it happens to this personal self, Dialogue: 0,0:25:21.63,0:25:25.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for some reason, \Nit's being attracted to find out that Dialogue: 0,0:25:25.48,0:25:28.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,maybe it suffers enough in the world Dialogue: 0,0:25:28.13,0:25:31.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it wants to find a solution for it. Dialogue: 0,0:25:31.49,0:25:37.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the only solid solution \Nis to discover where it comes from, Dialogue: 0,0:25:37.27,0:25:42.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that where it comes from and itself,\Nare one. Dialogue: 0,0:25:42.30,0:25:44.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's what the search of life is. Dialogue: 0,0:25:44.72,0:25:49.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because all beings who are not aware\Nof this oneness with the Self, Dialogue: 0,0:25:49.43,0:25:54.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all of them suffer. All have problems. You see? Dialogue: 0,0:25:54.65,0:25:58.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So this is the purpose of our satsang, Dialogue: 0,0:25:58.84,0:26:03.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that the consciousness,\Nin the form of a person, Dialogue: 0,0:26:03.41,0:26:05.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,becomes attracted to its root, Dialogue: 0,0:26:05.93,0:26:09.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and not just attracted \Nto the world in front of it. Dialogue: 0,0:26:09.57,0:26:14.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so this exercise, like detachment,\Nmeaning that whatever is going on, Dialogue: 0,0:26:14.89,0:26:19.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to go in the world, to do,\Nthe this, and self-image, Dialogue: 0,0:26:19.39,0:26:24.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,self-image, self-assessments, Dialogue: 0,0:26:24.10,0:26:29.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all of this is a play of the mind,\Nis mind states. Dialogue: 0,0:26:29.34,0:26:35.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it has to realise that \Nall states are changeful, OK? Dialogue: 0,0:26:35.65,0:26:41.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that it can witness them,\Nit can observe them, without being them. Dialogue: 0,0:26:41.02,0:26:46.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In fact, you can only observe something,\Nbecause you're not it, actually. Dialogue: 0,0:26:46.21,0:26:53.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that there's a capacity \Neven in the person, to observe, Dialogue: 0,0:26:53.88,0:26:59.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and in observing them it knows that\Nit's not them. Dialogue: 0,0:26:59.11,0:27:03.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that characteristic is like its parent. Dialogue: 0,0:27:03.72,0:27:07.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You see, the person, the characteristic\Nof looking and realising that, Dialogue: 0,0:27:07.99,0:27:14.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'Whatever I see is only an impression,\Na thought, and a feeling, Dialogue: 0,0:27:14.68,0:27:19.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it's not what I am,'\Nthat's called {\i1}awakening{\i0} Dialogue: 0,0:27:19.15,0:27:22.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's waking up to the fact that nothing out here Dialogue: 0,0:27:22.68,0:27:25.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,comes through the mind or the senses, Dialogue: 0,0:27:25.50,0:27:30.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,nothing of there can be fundamental to me.\NAll of it is changing. Dialogue: 0,0:27:30.14,0:27:36.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And even myself as the person \Nwho is looking and knowing this, Dialogue: 0,0:27:36.14,0:27:40.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is like on the verge of this way - world. Dialogue: 0,0:27:40.39,0:27:43.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This way - into the abyss of the Self. Dialogue: 0,0:27:43.38,0:27:46.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because it has a capacity that\Nwhen it looks Dialogue: 0,0:27:46.31,0:27:51.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it is not identified\Nwith what it sees or what it experiences, OK? Dialogue: 0,0:27:51.68,0:27:55.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And each thing comes, like life is saying,\N'This thing and this thing'. Dialogue: 0,0:27:55.81,0:28:00.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it's saying, 'No, it's not this.\NIt's not this. What I am is not this'. Dialogue: 0,0:28:00.79,0:28:07.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As you keep doing that, it naturally comes back\Nto its original Self-awareness. Dialogue: 0,0:28:07.46,0:28:10.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I say, Self-awareness, \Nnon-dual Self-awareness, Dialogue: 0,0:28:10.71,0:28:14.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like not one thing, not a divided union, Dialogue: 0,0:28:14.05,0:28:17.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but a harmony comes back into realising, Dialogue: 0,0:28:17.90,0:28:21.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'But here nothing is happening to me.' Dialogue: 0,0:28:21.85,0:28:25.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When I go into the mind, into identity, Dialogue: 0,0:28:25.12,0:28:28.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then happenings become relevant. Dialogue: 0,0:28:28.02,0:28:32.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But if I even can observe \Nand be aware of even my person, Dialogue: 0,0:28:32.83,0:28:37.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is like my person is like the... Dialogue: 0,0:28:37.74,0:28:43.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What you call this?\NThe binoculars that see the world, Dialogue: 0,0:28:43.14,0:28:45.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but the person who sees the world Dialogue: 0,0:28:45.49,0:28:48.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is also seen from the place of the Self. Dialogue: 0,0:28:48.07,0:28:54.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When it knows this, it's coming back into\Nconscious harmony. Dialogue: 0,0:28:54.25,0:28:56.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's all the thing of detachment is. Dialogue: 0,0:28:56.86,0:29:00.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You don't have to kill anything.\NIt's just understanding. Dialogue: 0,0:29:00.99,0:29:05.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The realisation of the Self \Nis a journey of understanding, Dialogue: 0,0:29:05.17,0:29:07.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and understanding your misunderstanding. Dialogue: 0,0:29:07.79,0:29:10.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it's simple. Unless we get it,\Nit might seem, Dialogue: 0,0:29:10.62,0:29:14.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'It's the most complex thing.' Why? \NBecause you're not used to doing it. Dialogue: 0,0:29:14.42,0:29:18.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You're looking—each one is \Nused to looking forward, looking outward. Dialogue: 0,0:29:18.74,0:29:22.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Even sometimes when you think \Nwe're looking inward into our mind, Dialogue: 0,0:29:22.43,0:29:25.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's still outward from the inner Self. Dialogue: 0,0:29:25.39,0:29:28.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q1: Yeah, and this happens a lot, Dialogue: 0,0:29:28.19,0:29:33.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because I go in, in and then it's the body. Dialogue: 0,0:29:33.15,0:29:36.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I cannot go beyond.\NM: You're in the body-mind. Dialogue: 0,0:29:36.32,0:29:40.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But something behind that knows this thing. Dialogue: 0,0:29:40.04,0:29:44.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The mind cannot make an ultimate realisation Dialogue: 0,0:29:44.61,0:29:48.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,without becoming the realisation. Dialogue: 0,0:29:48.41,0:29:53.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The mind or the person \Ncannot come to ultimate realisation Dialogue: 0,0:29:53.86,0:29:57.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and remain independent of that realisation. Dialogue: 0,0:29:57.34,0:30:04.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The more it becomes aware, \Nthe more it finds it is. Not that it has. Dialogue: 0,0:30:04.71,0:30:08.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this is very significant thing. Dialogue: 0,0:30:08.56,0:30:13.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Nobody can {\i1}have the realisation{\i0}\Nand be somebody who has realisation. Dialogue: 0,0:30:13.84,0:30:17.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What it means is that, the idea of yourself Dialogue: 0,0:30:17.06,0:30:21.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as being only the person,\Nsubsides again, and is seen, Dialogue: 0,0:30:21.28,0:30:26.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it is seen as also the most subtle object. Dialogue: 0,0:30:26.45,0:30:31.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This subtle object of a person \Nis behaving like a subject, Dialogue: 0,0:30:31.28,0:30:34.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that everything in its world is the object. Dialogue: 0,0:30:34.26,0:30:38.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But to the Self, it also is the {\i1}first object.{\i0} Dialogue: 0,0:30:38.37,0:30:44.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The first object shines as this feeling 'I',\N'I am here'. Dialogue: 0,0:30:44.83,0:30:48.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, 'Mia!' 'Yeah, I'm here.'\NWhat it means, 'I am here'? Dialogue: 0,0:30:48.80,0:30:53.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The reference normally is, 'Look, I'm over here. Dialogue: 0,0:30:53.19,0:30:56.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this is okay, this is normal, \Nthis is the only place Dialogue: 0,0:30:56.52,0:30:59.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where language can exist, in that way. Dialogue: 0,0:30:59.09,0:31:01.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The language is for the sense of the person Dialogue: 0,0:31:01.92,0:31:07.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,having relationship with what it likes or dislike. Dialogue: 0,0:31:07.02,0:31:10.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Actually, there's nothing wrong \Nwith this, ultimately. Dialogue: 0,0:31:10.00,0:31:12.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because even as you wake up\Nagain to realise that, Dialogue: 0,0:31:12.72,0:31:16.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whatever happens, it's seen from this place. Dialogue: 0,0:31:16.34,0:31:18.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But this place cannot be seen, Dialogue: 0,0:31:18.74,0:31:23.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that I can only really be this place. Dialogue: 0,0:31:23.86,0:31:27.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then when you really know this,\Nthe dynamic expression of this, Dialogue: 0,0:31:27.88,0:31:31.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is like of being a person,\Nthat can still play, Dialogue: 0,0:31:31.36,0:31:34.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it won't have that delusion in it. Dialogue: 0,0:31:34.82,0:31:38.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q1: Yes. This delusion has to go. Dialogue: 0,0:31:38.75,0:31:41.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,M: No, it needs to be understood.\NQ1: Yeah. Dialogue: 0,0:31:41.83,0:31:44.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,M: It doesn't go. Why it needs to go? Dialogue: 0,0:31:44.69,0:31:47.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because you are combining it with your identity Dialogue: 0,0:31:47.81,0:31:50.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it hurts like, 'No, no, no, no.' Dialogue: 0,0:31:50.32,0:31:53.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But all this now, \Nyou're going to see all of this Dialogue: 0,0:31:53.44,0:31:56.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are constructs of the mind. Dialogue: 0,0:31:56.18,0:32:00.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the self is just a psychological portrait Dialogue: 0,0:32:00.24,0:32:03.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the mind, of the person. Dialogue: 0,0:32:03.29,0:32:07.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But the inner being, which has no shape,\Nyou can't identify and say, Dialogue: 0,0:32:07.75,0:32:11.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'Ah I found the inner being.' \NYou cannot do that. Dialogue: 0,0:32:11.00,0:32:16.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because anything you can do that with,\Nis an object in the perception. Dialogue: 0,0:32:17.91,0:32:20.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,M: You got it, isn't it?\NQ1: Yes. Dialogue: 0,0:32:20.09,0:32:24.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,M: Okay. So okay, so prove your problem.\NGo on. Dialogue: 0,0:32:41.85,0:32:45.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You see, you will need to sit with this,\Nmore and more. Dialogue: 0,0:32:45.81,0:32:49.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because it's like shape shifting.\NOne minute you think you're looking Dialogue: 0,0:32:49.53,0:32:55.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the next minute you're involved, invested. Dialogue: 0,0:32:55.13,0:33:02.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Don't get angry about this,\Nbecause it's been happening for lifetimes. Dialogue: 0,0:33:02.34,0:33:04.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, let it happen, it's okay. Dialogue: 0,0:33:04.61,0:33:08.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just keep seeing, but wait a minute, \Nthis can be seen also. Dialogue: 0,0:33:08.23,0:33:13.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The most intimate \Nis also an object of perception. Dialogue: 0,0:33:13.92,0:33:18.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The most intimate, \Nbecause 'intimate' means at least two. Dialogue: 0,0:33:18.36,0:33:22.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If there's not two, there is no intimate. Dialogue: 0,0:33:28.19,0:33:34.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Can you be confused, {\i1}'you'{\i0}, \Nin the light of what I'm sharing? Dialogue: 0,0:33:34.05,0:33:36.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q1: No, no.\NM: Thank you. Dialogue: 0,0:33:36.83,0:33:39.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But you can be aware of confusion.\NQ1: Yeah. Dialogue: 0,0:33:39.98,0:33:44.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,M: If you can be aware of confusion \Nwithout identifying with confusion, Dialogue: 0,0:33:44.45,0:33:47.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are you cheating? Dialogue: 0,0:33:47.43,0:33:50.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q1: No, no. [laughs] Dialogue: 0,0:33:52.39,0:33:54.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,M: Very good. Dialogue: 0,0:33:56.85,0:34:01.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So let's start again from the beginning.\NWhat's your problem? Dialogue: 0,0:34:09.63,0:34:16.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q1: That when I do this exercise,\NI believe I need to find something. Dialogue: 0,0:34:16.35,0:34:20.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,M: 'I' being what? Qualify your status here. Dialogue: 0,0:34:20.80,0:34:22.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q1: The person. Dialogue: 0,0:34:22.80,0:34:26.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,M: When the person do the exercise?\NQ1: Yeah. Dialogue: 0,0:34:26.02,0:34:31.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,M: There's another word for person \Nin this exercise, Dialogue: 0,0:34:31.31,0:34:34.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would call it, Dialogue: 0,0:34:34.10,0:34:42.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when the personalised intelligence of the truth, Dialogue: 0,0:34:42.83,0:34:48.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when the personal intelligence of God Dialogue: 0,0:34:48.03,0:34:54.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,gets confused with its projections,\Nthen it's like it's lost to itself. Dialogue: 0,0:34:54.75,0:34:57.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's like it's lost to itself. Dialogue: 0,0:34:57.04,0:35:01.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When that loss to itself becomes painful, Dialogue: 0,0:35:01.91,0:35:07.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you're on the brink of awakening.\NYou understand? Dialogue: 0,0:35:07.50,0:35:12.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because if you're not troubled by it,\Nthen you will not go beyond it. Dialogue: 0,0:35:12.00,0:35:17.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q1: When it's just pain, pain, pain. [laughs] Dialogue: 0,0:35:17.14,0:35:22.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,M: 'No pain, no gain,' they say.\NYou have to... Dialogue: 0,0:35:22.36,0:35:27.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's like, in a way, \Nyou're giving birth to yourself. Dialogue: 0,0:35:27.95,0:35:35.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q1: Because I sit and I do,\Nbut I feel like there is no result. Dialogue: 0,0:35:35.47,0:35:39.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,M: You, again, who is sitting and looking, is what? Dialogue: 0,0:35:39.48,0:35:42.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q1: The person. \N[laughter] Dialogue: 0,0:35:44.97,0:35:47.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,M: Does it matter that \Nwe are catching it like that? Dialogue: 0,0:35:47.81,0:35:49.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That it's the person doing it, Dialogue: 0,0:35:49.91,0:35:54.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that what the person cries about today,\Nlaughs about another moment, Dialogue: 0,0:35:54.25,0:35:56.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that it's not consistent. Dialogue: 0,0:35:56.81,0:36:01.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And even if it says, 'Eureka, I found the Self!'\NCan it be true? Dialogue: 0,0:36:01.03,0:36:03.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q1: No.\NM: Why not? Dialogue: 0,0:36:03.46,0:36:06.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q1: Because it cannot be seen. Dialogue: 0,0:36:06.01,0:36:10.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q1: And if it lends to some illusion of... Dialogue: 0,0:36:10.24,0:36:14.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,M: So then what's the practice for? Dialogue: 0,0:36:18.21,0:36:22.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q1: To become aware of all this— Dialogue: 0,0:36:27.67,0:36:34.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wrong ideas.\NM: Yeah, that's one way we can put it. Dialogue: 0,0:36:34.10,0:36:36.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Tell me another way we can put it. \NThat's good. Dialogue: 0,0:36:36.88,0:36:40.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I take that, to become aware \Nof all these kind of little— Dialogue: 0,0:36:40.97,0:36:46.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all these little kind of distortions \Nof understanding, Dialogue: 0,0:36:46.72,0:36:50.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to become aware of them.\NMore subtle than that. Dialogue: 0,0:36:50.95,0:36:56.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,By becoming aware of them,\Nyou become aware of what? Dialogue: 0,0:36:56.71,0:37:01.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q1: Of that which is seeing.\NM: Is seeing, yeah. Dialogue: 0,0:37:01.65,0:37:07.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How can you become...\Nbe aware of it phenomenally? Dialogue: 0,0:37:07.07,0:37:09.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Can you become aware of it phenomenally? Dialogue: 0,0:37:09.86,0:37:11.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q1: No.\NM: No. Dialogue: 0,0:37:11.94,0:37:15.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So therefore, you become aware of what? Dialogue: 0,0:37:15.39,0:37:20.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q1: It feels like it's just the moments\Nof this awareness. Dialogue: 0,0:37:20.72,0:37:25.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,M: Yeah. It will flicker before, \Nbecause you're not used to it. Dialogue: 0,0:37:25.15,0:37:27.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The reflex is used to going out and connecting Dialogue: 0,0:37:27.89,0:37:31.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with objects of projections \Nand perception, used to that. Dialogue: 0,0:37:31.28,0:37:35.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But now I'm asking you to... \NAll this is happening for everyone. Dialogue: 0,0:37:35.16,0:37:38.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And even the one who says,\N'But this is happening to me, Dialogue: 0,0:37:38.50,0:37:42.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I find it frustrating!'\NWith where I'm asking you to do, Dialogue: 0,0:37:42.16,0:37:47.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is to see that that also \Nis an aspect of the mind. Dialogue: 0,0:37:47.98,0:37:51.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But all of these aspects, they came originally Dialogue: 0,0:37:51.23,0:37:55.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from out of this projection forward.\NCan you see? Dialogue: 0,0:37:55.85,0:37:57.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q1: Yeah.\NM: Yeah. Dialogue: 0,0:37:57.87,0:38:06.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that the real opportunity \Nis in seeing this. Dialogue: 0,0:38:06.40,0:38:10.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But still something is feeling,\N'No, but mind is still troubling. Dialogue: 0,0:38:10.13,0:38:15.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Mind is still troubling.'\NNo, don't worry. It's troubling who? Dialogue: 0,0:38:15.53,0:38:20.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Who is the mind troubling? Dialogue: 0,0:38:20.13,0:38:23.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We can say together after three. One, two, three.\NQ1: No one. Dialogue: 0,0:38:23.84,0:38:27.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,M: The person. Oh, no one!\NOh, you beat me to it! Dialogue: 0,0:38:27.35,0:38:31.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's troubling no one!\NIt's troubling {\i1}no one.{\i0} Dialogue: 0,0:38:31.22,0:38:35.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's a better answer than the person.\N[Questioner laughs] Dialogue: 0,0:38:35.50,0:38:37.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,M: You see this?\NQ1: Yeah. Dialogue: 0,0:38:37.56,0:38:39.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,M: Okay. Dialogue: 0,0:38:40.74,0:38:43.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So now what? Dialogue: 0,0:38:47.52,0:38:51.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's enough or not enough? Dialogue: 0,0:38:54.41,0:38:57.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q1: I don't know. Dialogue: 0,0:38:57.33,0:39:02.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,M: Who is saying? Who is...\NWhere this answer is coming from? Dialogue: 0,0:39:06.93,0:39:10.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I can accept it, or I can question it,\N'I don't know.' Dialogue: 0,0:39:10.53,0:39:15.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'I'-who don't know? Dialogue: 0,0:39:15.08,0:39:17.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q1: It's the person.\NM: It's the person. Dialogue: 0,0:39:17.70,0:39:19.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q1: Yeah.\NM: Yeah, sure? Dialogue: 0,0:39:19.77,0:39:23.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q1: No. [laughs]\NM: It can be from the person. Dialogue: 0,0:39:23.31,0:39:26.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you say it's from the person, okay, Dialogue: 0,0:39:26.01,0:39:28.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then I would say, You give me one more move. Dialogue: 0,0:39:28.80,0:39:34.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But what's aware that it's coming from the person? Dialogue: 0,0:39:34.38,0:39:39.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q1: Yes. Something feels like it's not satisfied, Dialogue: 0,0:39:39.29,0:39:45.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I should not go after. Dialogue: 0,0:39:45.47,0:39:49.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,M: Yes. This is a powerful seeing, Dialogue: 0,0:39:49.22,0:39:51.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'Something feels not satisfied.' Dialogue: 0,0:39:51.76,0:39:57.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That which feels not satisfied,\Nit's personal or impersonal? Dialogue: 0,0:39:57.36,0:40:00.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q1: It's personal.\NM: Personal. Dialogue: 0,0:40:00.68,0:40:04.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You see, if that gets you each time,\Nlike the person goes, Dialogue: 0,0:40:04.15,0:40:09.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'Yeah, I know, Guruji, \Nbut, you know, can't get... ' Who's speaking? Dialogue: 0,0:40:09.78,0:40:12.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q1: Person.\NM: Yeah. Dialogue: 0,0:40:12.58,0:40:15.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we will finish on that note? Dialogue: 0,0:40:15.26,0:40:21.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q1: Uh, person? No. [laughs]\NM: Thank you. Okay. Where? Dialogue: 0,0:40:29.23,0:40:33.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What does finish mean? Dialogue: 0,0:40:33.66,0:40:37.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q1: Just this conversation.\NFinish the conversation. Dialogue: 0,0:40:37.91,0:40:43.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,M: The conversation can finish \Nin its oral manifestation. Dialogue: 0,0:40:43.74,0:40:46.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It may go to be some kind of little stuff Dialogue: 0,0:40:46.61,0:40:49.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the mind that feels like,\N'Yeah, I don't know. Dialogue: 0,0:40:49.82,0:40:53.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had a talk with Mooji,\Nand it was really clear, Dialogue: 0,0:40:53.06,0:40:56.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but now it's not clear.' Is report from? Dialogue: 0,0:40:56.05,0:40:58.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q1: The mind.\NM: From the mind. Dialogue: 0,0:40:58.36,0:41:02.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it is that ultimate?\NQ1: No. Dialogue: 0,0:41:02.08,0:41:06.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,M: No. What is ultimate? Dialogue: 0,0:41:06.30,0:41:09.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q1: That which is aware of this. Dialogue: 0,0:41:09.57,0:41:12.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,M: Yes, yes. Dialogue: 0,0:41:12.28,0:41:15.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,M: Which is where? Dialogue: 0,0:41:15.81,0:41:18.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q1: It's nowhere. Dialogue: 0,0:41:18.81,0:41:22.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,M: Why are you smiling? \N[Questioner laughs] Dialogue: 0,0:41:28.63,0:41:34.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, you have a problem? Dialogue: 0,0:41:34.20,0:41:37.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q1: No. \N[Laughter] Dialogue: 0,0:41:37.56,0:41:42.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Can you, from this place of answering,\Never have a problem? Dialogue: 0,0:41:42.80,0:41:45.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q1: No. No. Dialogue: 0,0:41:51.04,0:41:56.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,M: Are you sad or happy about this? Dialogue: 0,0:41:59.68,0:42:02.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q1: Nothing.\NM: Very good. Dialogue: 0,0:42:04.85,0:42:08.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,More subtle than even happy. Dialogue: 0,0:42:13.44,0:42:17.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah. We're good? Dialogue: 0,0:42:19.62,0:42:22.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you go walking \Nand the mind comes again and says, Dialogue: 0,0:42:22.72,0:42:26.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'I can't remember anything about that. Dialogue: 0,0:42:26.71,0:42:30.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm going to try and see if I can \Nget that mood back.' Was it a mood? Dialogue: 0,0:42:30.63,0:42:34.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q1: No.\NM: It's not a mood. [laughter] Dialogue: 0,0:42:34.17,0:42:38.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Can you lose this? Dialogue: 0,0:42:38.67,0:42:40.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q1: No.\NM: No. Dialogue: 0,0:42:42.36,0:42:46.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Can you possess this?\NQ1: No. Dialogue: 0,0:42:49.55,0:42:52.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,M: Very good. Dialogue: 0,0:42:56.40,0:42:58.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm happy. Very good. Dialogue: 0,0:42:58.98,0:43:02.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, the rest I don't have to read, no? Dialogue: 0,0:43:02.67,0:43:06.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Reads letter] 'I don't know how to \Nbe aware that I am aware. Dialogue: 0,0:43:06.87,0:43:08.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Questioner laughs] Dialogue: 0,0:43:08.96,0:43:14.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I still see this 'I'-identity as real.\NPlease help, Mia.' Dialogue: 0,0:43:14.83,0:43:16.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do we need?\NQ1: No. Dialogue: 0,0:43:16.97,0:43:21.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,M: Very good. Can I keep it?\NQ1: Yes. I mean, throw it. Dialogue: 0,0:43:21.83,0:43:25.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,M: Throw it, keep it.\NI'm happy you're like this. It's good. Dialogue: 0,0:43:25.31,0:43:31.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q1: You don't need to keep it.\NM: Because this, [touches letter] Dialogue: 0,0:43:31.55,0:43:37.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I call it an auspicious reaching out \Nto clarify something. Dialogue: 0,0:43:37.32,0:43:42.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And to that extent, it's very... Dialogue: 0,0:43:42.20,0:43:44.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, it's not a game. Dialogue: 0,0:43:44.76,0:43:50.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We can say it is like a game,\Nbut it's not a cynical game. Dialogue: 0,0:43:50.72,0:43:57.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's, you may say, a game or a play or Dialogue: 0,0:43:57.25,0:44:02.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,something that needs to happen Dialogue: 0,0:44:02.25,0:44:06.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the human expression of consciousness, Dialogue: 0,0:44:06.46,0:44:11.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when it comes to a stage where \Nits world is not working. Dialogue: 0,0:44:11.23,0:44:14.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I don't see that as a disaster. Dialogue: 0,0:44:14.17,0:44:18.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I see it as opportunity \Nto look behind the scene. Dialogue: 0,0:44:18.07,0:44:23.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q1: Yes, yes. I want to take \Nevery opportunity to look. Dialogue: 0,0:44:23.08,0:44:27.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,M: Okay. Now? Right now? Dialogue: 0,0:44:27.01,0:44:30.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q1: Always, yeah, now.\NM: Yeah. Okay. Dialogue: 0,0:44:30.86,0:44:33.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do you need to look further now? Dialogue: 0,0:44:33.79,0:44:36.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q1: I can do, yeah.\NM: Yeah. Dialogue: 0,0:44:36.76,0:44:40.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,M: Yeah. Good.\NQ1: Yeah, yeah. [laughs] Dialogue: 0,0:44:40.39,0:44:44.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,M: Thank you. Very good. Dialogue: 0,0:44:47.59,0:44:50.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And you don't need to talk \Nto anybody about it. Dialogue: 0,0:44:50.33,0:44:53.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just you sit with that, and watch. Dialogue: 0,0:44:53.64,0:45:00.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And however tricky the mind can be,\Nyou remember, it is secondary. Dialogue: 0,0:45:00.72,0:45:04.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That which is primary, is seeing that. Dialogue: 0,0:45:04.03,0:45:08.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the mind can come in the form \Nof thought or moods or sensation, Dialogue: 0,0:45:08.02,0:45:10.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it can appear like confusion, Dialogue: 0,0:45:10.78,0:45:16.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it appears as identity, \Nbut it's still only appearing. Dialogue: 0,0:45:16.32,0:45:21.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Can the Self appear? No. Dialogue: 0,0:45:21.61,0:45:26.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it causes the appearing \Nof the mind play and the diversity. Dialogue: 0,0:45:26.59,0:45:32.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But it itself is indescribable actually. Dialogue: 0,0:45:34.44,0:45:38.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So at this point I would say, \Nsit and contemplate that. Dialogue: 0,0:45:38.23,0:45:41.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah. That's all you have to do. Dialogue: 0,0:45:41.36,0:45:47.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You see, it sounds as though from what\Nyou write, somebody might think, Dialogue: 0,0:45:47.32,0:45:51.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'Wow, I feel she's in real trouble.'\NBut for me, I think, what a opportunity, Dialogue: 0,0:45:51.01,0:45:53.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I got to find out from you,\Nwe can look together. Dialogue: 0,0:45:53.73,0:45:57.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it's all in you. It's all you. Dialogue: 0,0:46:02.11,0:46:04.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Very good. Dialogue: 0,0:46:05.40,0:46:08.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Would you like some tea or something?\NDid you get something or are you okay? Dialogue: 0,0:46:08.66,0:46:12.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q1: I think I have some food waiting for me.\NM: Go and eat the food now, it's cold. Dialogue: 0,0:46:12.73,0:46:16.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's the only food \Nthat's worth eating cold right now. Dialogue: 0,0:46:16.15,0:46:18.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q1: It's... Dialogue: 0,0:46:18.41,0:46:23.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,M: Thank you. Wonderful, darling.\NThank you, thank you, thank you, Dialogue: 0,0:46:23.96,0:46:28.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q1: Thank you so much.\NM: Yes. See you in a bit. Dialogue: 0,0:46:28.36,0:46:32.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Okay. Okay. \NQ1: Thank you. Dialogue: 0,0:46:37.51,0:46:40.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,M: If you are earnest, then you must do. Dialogue: 0,0:46:40.02,0:46:42.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can walk the same road. Dialogue: 0,0:46:42.52,0:46:45.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's fresh every time.