[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,0:00:18.24,0:00:21.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,M: Can I just read it out?\NQ1: Yes. Dialogue: 0,0:00:21.15,0:00:23.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,M: You write, 'Dear Guruji. Dialogue: 0,0:00:23.26,0:00:27.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I am too ashamed and afraid to speak to you. Dialogue: 0,0:00:27.37,0:00:31.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't know how to observe with detachment. Dialogue: 0,0:00:31.78,0:00:35.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't know how to be aware that I am aware. Dialogue: 0,0:00:35.42,0:00:40.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I still see this 'I' identity as real.\NPlease help me.' Dialogue: 0,0:00:40.00,0:00:42.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's very, very honest thing. Dialogue: 0,0:00:42.78,0:00:45.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I wish people would write more like this and say. Dialogue: 0,0:00:45.61,0:00:49.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because some people,\Nthey hold back and they don't say. Dialogue: 0,0:00:49.29,0:00:51.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I appreciate that you can say it, Dialogue: 0,0:00:51.56,0:00:54.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because I can kind of have a chance Dialogue: 0,0:00:54.54,0:00:57.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to share with you in a simple way. Dialogue: 0,0:00:59.37,0:01:04.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Mooji reads] 'I don't know how to \Nobserve with detachment.' Dialogue: 0,0:01:07.36,0:01:12.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Actually, we are observing with detachment\Non many things, Dialogue: 0,0:01:12.39,0:01:16.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if they don't matter to you, you understand? Dialogue: 0,0:01:16.27,0:01:19.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If things don't matter to you, \Nyou still see them, Dialogue: 0,0:01:19.23,0:01:21.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but you're not distracted by them. Dialogue: 0,0:01:21.74,0:01:25.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Everybody same, same thing.\NSo that's the first part. Dialogue: 0,0:01:25.51,0:01:28.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is no such thing as \Nnot observing with detachment. Dialogue: 0,0:01:28.87,0:01:33.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If suppose everything you see,\Nevery situation you had, Dialogue: 0,0:01:33.84,0:01:36.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you had to remember. It's just alive in you. Dialogue: 0,0:01:36.72,0:01:39.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We'll be completely crazy.\NNobody can do. Dialogue: 0,0:01:39.97,0:01:46.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is the mechanism \Nof our true natural state, Dialogue: 0,0:01:46.36,0:01:49.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's working all the time to, Dialogue: 0,0:01:49.90,0:01:52.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like you can walk through here,\Nwalk up there, Dialogue: 0,0:01:52.78,0:01:56.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you don't have to notice every step.\NYou don't notice everything. Dialogue: 0,0:01:56.10,0:02:00.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You meet a person, 'Hi. Good morning.' \NPass, pass. You don't have to retain that. Dialogue: 0,0:02:00.97,0:02:07.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So a natural detachment \Nis functioning inside us. Dialogue: 0,0:02:10.88,0:02:15.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's already there, detachment. Dialogue: 0,0:02:15.16,0:02:19.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If we were not able to detach \Nand yet we are perceiving, Dialogue: 0,0:02:19.79,0:02:22.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we would be in trouble, Dialogue: 0,0:02:22.84,0:02:30.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So first of all, know that it's natural \Nthat you meet people— Dialogue: 0,0:02:30.23,0:02:34.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's the things that matter to you Dialogue: 0,0:02:34.73,0:02:39.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you start to become more attached to, Dialogue: 0,0:02:39.19,0:02:42.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like it has meaning \Nand so I have to remember this thing. Dialogue: 0,0:02:42.51,0:02:46.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it's almost like \Nyou take a kind of photograph Dialogue: 0,0:02:46.100,0:02:49.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in some kind of way inside,\Nit's like that matters, Dialogue: 0,0:02:49.89,0:02:52.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so then it become important. Dialogue: 0,0:02:52.01,0:02:57.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So like this, when you say,\N'I don't know how to observe with detachment.' Dialogue: 0,0:02:57.58,0:03:05.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If I say, But you're doing it anyway \Nwith many things. Dialogue: 0,0:03:05.47,0:03:08.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If I walk through from the front\Nto the back here, Dialogue: 0,0:03:08.24,0:03:12.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I say to everybody as we're walking through,\NBe detached from everything, Dialogue: 0,0:03:12.86,0:03:17.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then it becomes a problem,\Nbecause it turns it into a strangeness, Dialogue: 0,0:03:17.24,0:03:20.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because naturally you're detached from things. Dialogue: 0,0:03:20.11,0:03:25.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You come to satsang and I'm teaching you \Nsomething much more powerful Dialogue: 0,0:03:25.15,0:03:30.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and to bring awareness to something \Nthat's already natural for you. Dialogue: 0,0:03:30.18,0:03:36.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I want it to be natural for you\Neven with things that matter. Dialogue: 0,0:03:36.72,0:03:38.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q1: Yes, that's my problem. Dialogue: 0,0:03:38.98,0:03:44.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,M: Yeah, yeah, yeah. \NIt's a problem for everybody. Dialogue: 0,0:03:44.83,0:03:47.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,With things that don't matter, no problem. Dialogue: 0,0:03:47.54,0:03:50.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You don't even have to say,\N'I'm going to be detached from that.' Dialogue: 0,0:03:50.94,0:03:56.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You don't even have to say that.\NYou don't have to think. You're just senses, eyes, life. Dialogue: 0,0:03:56.26,0:04:00.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You meet these things. Nothing.\NJust move through them. You retain your peace. Dialogue: 0,0:04:00.86,0:04:05.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But about the things that you say matter,\Nand what makes them matter? Dialogue: 0,0:04:05.60,0:04:10.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Let's slow down a bit and say,\Nwhat makes some things matter? Dialogue: 0,0:04:10.34,0:04:17.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's an open question for me.\NWhy do they matter? Dialogue: 0,0:04:17.41,0:04:19.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Some Dialogue: 0,0:04:21.26,0:04:23.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,relationship, some concepts, Dialogue: 0,0:04:23.50,0:04:26.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like okay, this is family, this is my job, Dialogue: 0,0:04:26.81,0:04:30.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this is my relationship,\Nand these things matter. Dialogue: 0,0:04:30.17,0:04:34.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So if somebody else's relationship \Nis having problem, it's no problem for you. Dialogue: 0,0:04:34.60,0:04:38.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But you have a relationship problem,\Nit matters for you. Dialogue: 0,0:04:38.16,0:04:43.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So what is this thing that I'm talking about - \NTo observe with detachment. Dialogue: 0,0:04:43.88,0:04:47.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's just a little step further than what I say, Dialogue: 0,0:04:47.73,0:04:49.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you walk through,\Nyou're naturally detached anyway. Dialogue: 0,0:04:49.62,0:04:54.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What I'm asking about - \Nlearning to observe with detachment, Dialogue: 0,0:04:54.34,0:04:58.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is to bring that detachment— Dialogue: 0,0:04:58.64,0:05:04.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because whatever you see,\Nnothing sticks actually. Natural thing. Dialogue: 0,0:05:04.14,0:05:08.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But when things matter, your relationship, Dialogue: 0,0:05:08.63,0:05:11.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what you want, your work and so on, Dialogue: 0,0:05:11.85,0:05:15.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it creates a structure in your mind Dialogue: 0,0:05:15.65,0:05:19.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you have to take care of that. Dialogue: 0,0:05:19.64,0:05:22.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, I'm not going into all of these things. Dialogue: 0,0:05:22.67,0:05:28.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm saying that, \Nokay, what is attachment is to... Dialogue: 0,0:05:30.49,0:05:39.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want you to be aware \Nof a space within you which is Dialogue: 0,0:05:42.19,0:05:45.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not changed by whatever is happening around you. Dialogue: 0,0:05:45.76,0:05:50.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's alive. It's not dead, but it's not— Dialogue: 0,0:05:50.54,0:05:57.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's not attached to the outcome \Nof things so deeply. Dialogue: 0,0:05:57.62,0:06:02.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't know if I'm putting it right.\NI'm trying to find an example. Dialogue: 0,0:06:04.34,0:06:10.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q1: I feel like there is no space.\NIt's just all mind and identity. Dialogue: 0,0:06:10.37,0:06:12.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,M: If you are able to see mind, Dialogue: 0,0:06:12.71,0:06:16.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you must be looking from \Nsome place that's not mind. Dialogue: 0,0:06:16.46,0:06:21.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is true for everybody.\NJust you're not aware that it's like that. Dialogue: 0,0:06:21.07,0:06:25.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Actually, what I'm saying is \Nactually so powerfully true for you Dialogue: 0,0:06:25.75,0:06:28.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when you're aware of it. Dialogue: 0,0:06:28.16,0:06:35.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And largely, the teachings and the practice\Nof what we do here Dialogue: 0,0:06:35.51,0:06:38.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is to make you more aware of something about you Dialogue: 0,0:06:38.78,0:06:41.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you're not so aware of, for everybody, Dialogue: 0,0:06:41.64,0:06:43.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because we're not aware in the place Dialogue: 0,0:06:43.91,0:06:48.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you should be aware of your inmost being. Dialogue: 0,0:06:48.23,0:06:51.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can't see that. Dialogue: 0,0:06:51.10,0:06:54.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's the other thing.\NEverything else you can see. Dialogue: 0,0:06:54.64,0:06:57.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Every relationship, every object you can see, Dialogue: 0,0:06:57.94,0:07:00.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,every thought you can remember, \Nyou can think. Dialogue: 0,0:07:00.68,0:07:06.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're all called 'other',\Neverything you can see. Dialogue: 0,0:07:06.08,0:07:08.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But your Self you cannot see. Dialogue: 0,0:07:08.47,0:07:10.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,M: You get that?\NQ1: Yeah. Dialogue: 0,0:07:10.47,0:07:15.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,M: You can say, 'Oh, this is my body.\NThis is my ring. Dialogue: 0,0:07:15.27,0:07:17.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is my house. This is my car.' Dialogue: 0,0:07:17.60,0:07:23.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My, my, my. This belongs to me. \NMy, my, my. Everything belong to you. Dialogue: 0,0:07:23.92,0:07:28.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is my family. This is my mother.\NThis is my house. Dialogue: 0,0:07:28.05,0:07:32.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is my country. This is my passport.\NThis is my birth certificate. Dialogue: 0,0:07:32.39,0:07:35.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All 'my', meaning they belong to you. Dialogue: 0,0:07:35.49,0:07:42.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But can you say, 'This is my my?\NThis is my me?' Dialogue: 0,0:07:42.02,0:07:48.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can't say, 'This is my me.' Why? Dialogue: 0,0:07:48.03,0:07:50.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q1: Because I cannot see this. Dialogue: 0,0:07:50.97,0:07:54.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,M: Yes. So because you can't see it, Dialogue: 0,0:07:54.27,0:07:58.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,M: does it mean it's not there?\NQ1: No. Dialogue: 0,0:07:58.15,0:08:00.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,M: Right. So there's something in the world, Dialogue: 0,0:08:00.57,0:08:04.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,everything you can see,\Nbut something you cannot see. Dialogue: 0,0:08:04.88,0:08:08.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Everything you can see,\Nbut something you cannot see. Dialogue: 0,0:08:08.36,0:08:14.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And yet you cannot deny \Nthat it is real, isn't it? You know you are. Dialogue: 0,0:08:14.60,0:08:17.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, I'm going to zoom in a little bit closer Dialogue: 0,0:08:17.66,0:08:22.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in this feeling that, 'Yes, I know 'I am'.' Dialogue: 0,0:08:24.90,0:08:28.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This thing which you cannot see, Dialogue: 0,0:08:28.00,0:08:32.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you say, 'You know it is here.'\NI mean, it's the first fact. Dialogue: 0,0:08:32.25,0:08:36.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because if it's not here,\Nnothing else is here, isn't it? Dialogue: 0,0:08:36.61,0:08:41.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But it cannot be seen, yeah? Dialogue: 0,0:08:41.10,0:08:44.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Okay, so we are back to this point. Dialogue: 0,0:08:44.66,0:08:48.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Everything you can see, everything; Dialogue: 0,0:08:48.14,0:08:54.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your thoughts, feelings, objects, people, Dialogue: 0,0:08:54.50,0:08:58.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your feelings, all of these things, you can see. Dialogue: 0,0:08:58.03,0:09:04.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can even see the quality of your sight,\Nisn't it? Dialogue: 0,0:09:04.54,0:09:07.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So if you went to the optician and he says, Dialogue: 0,0:09:07.80,0:09:10.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'Could you tell me something, \Nwhy you come here?' Dialogue: 0,0:09:10.86,0:09:16.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You said, 'Actually, I'm not able to see \Nor focus on things so well.' Dialogue: 0,0:09:16.59,0:09:19.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He said, 'In both eyes?' Dialogue: 0,0:09:19.12,0:09:23.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You say, 'No, no, in the right eye.'\N'Okay, tell me something.' Dialogue: 0,0:09:23.95,0:09:29.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You said, 'In the left eye, I can see \Nmaybe 80 percent of what it should be, Dialogue: 0,0:09:29.24,0:09:31.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but in the right eye it's like about 50.' Dialogue: 0,0:09:31.80,0:09:37.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So something must be seeing sight, isn't it? Dialogue: 0,0:09:37.89,0:09:41.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The capacity is there.\NYou don't have to ask anybody. Dialogue: 0,0:09:41.31,0:09:45.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can see, yeah, something is aware \Nof even the sight Dialogue: 0,0:09:45.64,0:09:48.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is not functioning well. Dialogue: 0,0:09:48.66,0:09:55.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So something must be behind even the sight. Dialogue: 0,0:09:55.58,0:09:59.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You are also aware of feelings, Dialogue: 0,0:09:59.78,0:10:05.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,emotion, sense of time.\NIf somebody said, 'Yesterday something happened.' Dialogue: 0,0:10:05.54,0:10:09.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You're aware of what that mean.\NEverything you're aware of. Dialogue: 0,0:10:09.03,0:10:11.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Everything you can see. Dialogue: 0,0:10:11.44,0:10:16.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But your Self, can you see? Dialogue: 0,0:10:16.21,0:10:18.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why? Dialogue: 0,0:10:19.64,0:10:21.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Your body you can see. Dialogue: 0,0:10:21.70,0:10:25.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Your body you can see.\NYou can see your smile. Dialogue: 0,0:10:25.78,0:10:29.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can see your body.\NYou can see everything. Dialogue: 0,0:10:29.12,0:10:36.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But your Self, \Nis seeing your body your Self? Dialogue: 0,0:10:36.61,0:10:39.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why not? Dialogue: 0,0:10:43.69,0:10:46.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q1: Because something is aware of—\NM: Yeah, something is aware. Dialogue: 0,0:10:46.89,0:10:49.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q1: —of the body.\NM: Yeah. Dialogue: 0,0:10:49.46,0:10:52.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That something which is aware of the body\Ncannot be seen. Dialogue: 0,0:10:52.97,0:10:56.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,M: You're saying, no?\NQ1: Yeah. Dialogue: 0,0:10:57.86,0:11:01.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,M: Can it be it can see sickness? Dialogue: 0,0:11:01.17,0:11:04.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It can know I'm not feeling well. Dialogue: 0,0:11:04.37,0:11:07.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'I'm not feeling... ' It knows emotion. Dialogue: 0,0:11:07.00,0:11:10.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'I'm feeling a little a bit uncomfortable.' Dialogue: 0,0:11:10.96,0:11:14.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It sees everything. But itself it cannot see. Dialogue: 0,0:11:14.43,0:11:17.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You're saying? Yeah. Dialogue: 0,0:11:17.83,0:11:22.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why can it see everything,\Nbut it cannot see itself? Dialogue: 0,0:11:26.83,0:11:30.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q1: This I don't know. Dialogue: 0,0:11:31.49,0:11:33.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,M: This which cannot... Dialogue: 0,0:11:33.57,0:11:38.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can see everything,\Nbut you cannot see your Self. Dialogue: 0,0:11:38.02,0:11:40.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This which you cannot see, Dialogue: 0,0:11:40.09,0:11:45.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yet you cannot deny, this is your Self. Dialogue: 0,0:11:52.31,0:11:56.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That, everything you can see,\Nyour feelings, thoughts, Dialogue: 0,0:11:56.05,0:12:00.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the function of intellect. Dialogue: 0,0:12:00.61,0:12:02.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Everything you can see. Dialogue: 0,0:12:02.79,0:12:07.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But that which is seeing them,\Nyou say, 'I can't see.' Dialogue: 0,0:12:07.06,0:12:11.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's sort of, the word 'I' represent this thing, Dialogue: 0,0:12:11.49,0:12:14.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it cannot be seen. Dialogue: 0,0:12:14.42,0:12:17.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Everybody, even your mother\Ncan come and say, Dialogue: 0,0:12:17.20,0:12:19.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'Darling, it's nice to see you.' Dialogue: 0,0:12:19.36,0:12:22.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What is the 'you' that she is seeing? Dialogue: 0,0:12:22.78,0:12:24.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q1: The body.\NM: The body. Dialogue: 0,0:12:24.80,0:12:29.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And she's seeing her affection,\Nher memory of you. Dialogue: 0,0:12:29.62,0:12:32.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All this she can see puts to become you. Dialogue: 0,0:12:32.21,0:12:35.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'Darling, it's so nice. Where have you been?\NI haven't seen you for a long time.' Dialogue: 0,0:12:35.76,0:12:39.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So whatever somebody's saying,\N'I can see you. It's good to see you. Dialogue: 0,0:12:39.40,0:12:42.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Where have you been? You put on some weight'\Nor 'you lost some weight.' Dialogue: 0,0:12:42.47,0:12:45.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All of this is to do with what? Dialogue: 0,0:12:45.15,0:12:49.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q1: Appearance.\NM: Your form and appearance, okay. Dialogue: 0,0:12:49.35,0:12:51.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So can she see You? Dialogue: 0,0:12:51.97,0:12:56.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Can you see You? Is that scary? Dialogue: 0,0:12:58.64,0:13:03.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q1: No, it's not scary, but it's so... Dialogue: 0,0:13:03.98,0:13:06.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Something is missing or feels like... Dialogue: 0,0:13:06.82,0:13:11.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,M: Okay, take a moment \Nand think about what's missing. Dialogue: 0,0:13:16.29,0:13:20.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You cannot see your True Self. Dialogue: 0,0:13:20.51,0:13:25.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I also cannot see my True Self. Dialogue: 0,0:13:25.36,0:13:31.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why? Because it's not an object. Dialogue: 0,0:13:31.25,0:13:35.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's not even a thought. Dialogue: 0,0:13:35.73,0:13:40.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q1: But you say to stay as this.\NBut... [laughs] Dialogue: 0,0:13:40.41,0:13:44.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,M: Well, okay, okay.\NThank you. I say to stay as this. Why? Dialogue: 0,0:13:44.79,0:13:50.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because, first of all,\Nyou imagine something else to be yourself. Dialogue: 0,0:13:50.78,0:13:54.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You call yourself a woman, a daughter,\Nyou are from this country, Dialogue: 0,0:13:54.50,0:13:58.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,my parents, I'm... Whatever. Like this. Dialogue: 0,0:13:58.25,0:14:04.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we are used to associating \Nsome quality that represent you. Dialogue: 0,0:14:04.49,0:14:09.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But really, you're earlier than this in the purity. Dialogue: 0,0:14:09.31,0:14:12.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The one that is aware that says, Dialogue: 0,0:14:12.67,0:14:16.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you're talking on the phone, 'I'm 27 years old. Dialogue: 0,0:14:16.22,0:14:20.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've got two children.\NI'm married. I live in this place.' Dialogue: 0,0:14:20.17,0:14:25.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That one, is what? Dialogue: 0,0:14:25.49,0:14:27.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q1: Person.\NM: Is the person. Dialogue: 0,0:14:27.76,0:14:33.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is the person and the Self,\Nthe True Self, is the same thing? Dialogue: 0,0:14:33.21,0:14:35.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q1: No. Dialogue: 0,0:14:35.22,0:14:40.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,M: Does that bring a feeling of discomfort? Dialogue: 0,0:14:42.77,0:14:47.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No. No. Because there's nothing \Nyou have to do to know that. Dialogue: 0,0:14:47.58,0:14:49.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You - something knows. Dialogue: 0,0:14:49.78,0:14:53.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yet most people, I would say, in the world,\Nhave not even looked like this. Dialogue: 0,0:14:53.85,0:14:56.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They have not even thought about this, Dialogue: 0,0:14:56.79,0:15:00.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because your world starts with your person. Dialogue: 0,0:15:00.83,0:15:03.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If I employ you, I look at you, I interview, Dialogue: 0,0:15:03.86,0:15:07.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I say, Tell me about yourself.\NYou say, 'I studied this in university. Dialogue: 0,0:15:07.17,0:15:11.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I lived in South Africa. For a while I travelled..'\NInformation, information. Dialogue: 0,0:15:11.82,0:15:14.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Information cannot be You. Dialogue: 0,0:15:14.22,0:15:20.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's about your person. \NWhich is, what is the person? Dialogue: 0,0:15:22.25,0:15:25.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q1: This identity is person.\NM: Yes, yes. Dialogue: 0,0:15:25.38,0:15:28.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Can you see the identity person? Dialogue: 0,0:15:28.97,0:15:32.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q1: Yeah.\NM: What it look like? Dialogue: 0,0:15:34.87,0:15:38.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q1: Some tightness, some attachment— Dialogue: 0,0:15:38.72,0:15:41.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,M: Attachment.\NQ1: —to ideas. Dialogue: 0,0:15:41.56,0:15:46.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,M: Yes. Attachment to some ideas. Okay. Dialogue: 0,0:15:46.27,0:15:50.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But the person is also idea. Dialogue: 0,0:15:50.58,0:15:55.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q1: This is a problem,\Nbecause it really feels real. So yeah. Dialogue: 0,0:15:55.01,0:15:59.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,M: Because it is the feeling 'I' in you, Dialogue: 0,0:15:59.73,0:16:04.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this 'I', it says,'Yeah, I see', 'I think', \N'I... da, da, da.' Dialogue: 0,0:16:04.89,0:16:11.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Who is the 'I' that thinks we're not sure \Nif it's the person or the real Self? Dialogue: 0,0:16:11.84,0:16:16.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'I want'. 'Yes, I know.' Dialogue: 0,0:16:16.74,0:16:20.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Who is the 'I' that knows? Dialogue: 0,0:16:20.31,0:16:24.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is it personal or impersonal? Dialogue: 0,0:16:24.00,0:16:28.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q1: Personal.\NM: It's personal. Okay, good. Dialogue: 0,0:16:28.37,0:16:33.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What sees it's impersonal? Dialogue: 0,0:16:33.36,0:16:36.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q1: I don't know what.\NI know it's something is seeing but... Dialogue: 0,0:16:36.75,0:16:40.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,M: Yes. It's the same answer. \NYou've given the answer already. Dialogue: 0,0:16:40.43,0:16:43.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It cannot be seen. Dialogue: 0,0:16:43.69,0:16:47.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So this is the most important discovery, Dialogue: 0,0:16:47.54,0:16:52.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because until you really realise this \Nand know this, Dialogue: 0,0:16:52.34,0:16:56.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you take yourself to be an object\Nperceiving other object. Dialogue: 0,0:16:56.13,0:17:00.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The object being your person.\NAnd it's okay, it's okay. Dialogue: 0,0:17:00.27,0:17:04.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,God made it like that, \Nthat we would also be projected Dialogue: 0,0:17:04.37,0:17:07.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,into the world of thought \Nand feeling and association Dialogue: 0,0:17:07.77,0:17:11.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and say, 'This is me,' for a while. Dialogue: 0,0:17:11.01,0:17:15.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But with this 'I' that works as the person, Dialogue: 0,0:17:15.90,0:17:21.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,its world and itself is never stable, Dialogue: 0,0:17:21.22,0:17:25.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because it has an identity. Dialogue: 0,0:17:25.29,0:17:30.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is the identity of the person always stable? \NNo, no. Dialogue: 0,0:17:30.30,0:17:35.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But it tries with everything \Nto try and to share that it is stable. Dialogue: 0,0:17:35.72,0:17:44.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because stable mean it's wise,\Nit's real, it's dependable, it's consistent. Dialogue: 0,0:17:44.32,0:17:47.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm just talking this through. Dialogue: 0,0:17:47.11,0:17:50.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I'm pointing to a deeper knowing \Nbehind this person Dialogue: 0,0:17:50.68,0:17:56.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that knows the person, that sees the person. Dialogue: 0,0:17:56.42,0:18:00.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That which is aware of the person—\Nyou're with me? Dialogue: 0,0:18:00.57,0:18:04.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is it attached to the person \Nor is the person attached to it? Dialogue: 0,0:18:04.53,0:18:07.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Take a moment. Dialogue: 0,0:18:11.28,0:18:15.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q1: It is not attached.\NM: It's not attached. Dialogue: 0,0:18:15.86,0:18:19.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,M: Does it suffer from not being attached? Dialogue: 0,0:18:19.62,0:18:23.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q1: No. [laughs] Dialogue: 0,0:18:23.81,0:18:27.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,M: But I had to question you\Nfor you to recede to that place Dialogue: 0,0:18:27.52,0:18:30.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to say, 'It's not attached.' Dialogue: 0,0:18:30.95,0:18:33.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because where we are functioning normally Dialogue: 0,0:18:33.61,0:18:37.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is from the identity of the person,\Nwhich is attached. Dialogue: 0,0:18:37.68,0:18:40.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Which likes and dislikes. Dialogue: 0,0:18:40.22,0:18:42.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Who wants and don't want. Dialogue: 0,0:18:42.46,0:18:44.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Who thinks this and thinks that. Dialogue: 0,0:18:44.63,0:18:49.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And very much is in the function \Nof perceiving and living, no? Dialogue: 0,0:18:49.62,0:18:54.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, what I'm sharing is that, that's okay. Dialogue: 0,0:18:54.07,0:19:00.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But if you only are aware of yourself\Nas a person, with its world, Dialogue: 0,0:19:00.60,0:19:05.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you will never be totally happy,\Nbecause it's not stable. Dialogue: 0,0:19:05.35,0:19:09.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Today, 'Ah, I'm so happy.\NI'm so... Oh, so wonderful!' Dialogue: 0,0:19:09.36,0:19:13.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Tomorrow I see you... [imitates struggling] Dialogue: 0,0:19:13.40,0:19:18.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I say, Mia, what's up?\N'It's okay, I don't want to talk about it.' Dialogue: 0,0:19:18.58,0:19:22.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Who is it, who is speaking? Person, no?\NQ1: Yes. Dialogue: 0,0:19:22.10,0:19:27.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,M: What does the Self say?\NWhat does the real Self say? Dialogue: 0,0:19:27.64,0:19:30.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is it important at all? Dialogue: 0,0:19:30.59,0:19:33.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No. Is the self important?\NQ1: No. Dialogue: 0,0:19:33.76,0:19:35.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,M: It's not important.\NQ1: No. Dialogue: 0,0:19:35.88,0:19:39.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,M: So does that mean that it's no good,\Nit's not significant? Dialogue: 0,0:19:39.88,0:19:44.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The self is not important?\NIt's not important? Dialogue: 0,0:19:44.13,0:19:47.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Okay, so what's the purpose of it existing then? Dialogue: 0,0:19:47.84,0:19:50.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If other things after it is important,\Nlike the person; Dialogue: 0,0:19:50.87,0:19:53.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,personal identity is important,\Npersonal world is important, Dialogue: 0,0:19:53.83,0:19:55.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,personal attachment is important. Dialogue: 0,0:19:55.96,0:20:02.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But the one before all of this come,\Nwhich cannot be removed, Dialogue: 0,0:20:02.40,0:20:06.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can the Self be killed? No. Dialogue: 0,0:20:06.83,0:20:13.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And you say, 'I'm quite liking it, \Nactually, it's not important.' Okay. Dialogue: 0,0:20:16.57,0:20:20.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,M: What is important? Dialogue: 0,0:20:20.84,0:20:25.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q1: I feel this exercise is important to do.\NM: Yes. Dialogue: 0,0:20:25.22,0:20:30.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why is it important, the exercise? Dialogue: 0,0:20:33.85,0:20:36.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q1: To stabilise in this.\NM: Yeah. Dialogue: 0,0:20:36.88,0:20:41.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is it the Self, the inmost Self \Nthat has to stabilise, Dialogue: 0,0:20:41.19,0:20:44.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or something else has to stabilise?\NQ1: Something else. Dialogue: 0,0:20:44.84,0:20:47.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,M: Right. Dialogue: 0,0:20:47.00,0:20:51.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why does it need to stabilise,\Nthe something else? Dialogue: 0,0:20:51.30,0:20:57.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q1: Because to not get pulled into identity. Dialogue: 0,0:20:57.66,0:21:04.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,M: Yes. What is it that gets pulled into identity?\NIs it the Self? Dialogue: 0,0:21:04.62,0:21:07.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q1: Attention.\NM: Attention. Attention gets pulled. Dialogue: 0,0:21:07.71,0:21:11.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,M: So attention is very important.\NQ1: Yes. Dialogue: 0,0:21:11.90,0:21:16.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,M: When the attention gets pulled into identity, Dialogue: 0,0:21:16.06,0:21:18.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what knows it most deeply; Dialogue: 0,0:21:18.60,0:21:25.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the attention, the mind, the person, \Nor the inmost Self? Dialogue: 0,0:21:25.29,0:21:28.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q1: The Self. The inmost Self.\NM: The Self. Dialogue: 0,0:21:28.69,0:21:32.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Does it suffer?\NQ1: No. Dialogue: 0,0:21:32.15,0:21:34.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,M: No. Still it's important, Dialogue: 0,0:21:34.95,0:21:39.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because every time the attention \Ngoes out and forgets itself, Dialogue: 0,0:21:39.29,0:21:43.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it forgets where it comes from.\NQ1: Yeah. [laughs] Dialogue: 0,0:21:43.40,0:21:47.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,M: Every time the attention goes out,\Ngets involved in its projections, Dialogue: 0,0:21:47.91,0:21:50.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it causes some pain, Dialogue: 0,0:21:50.54,0:21:55.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it creates a kind of a world,\Nit creates emotion, Dialogue: 0,0:21:55.19,0:21:58.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it creates ups and downs, like this, Dialogue: 0,0:21:58.63,0:22:01.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and something is troubled by that. Dialogue: 0,0:22:01.52,0:22:04.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Maybe the person is troubled by that.\NQ1: Yeah. Dialogue: 0,0:22:04.96,0:22:08.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,M: And in our world, \Neverything is due to the person. Dialogue: 0,0:22:08.15,0:22:11.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's the person that takes \Nanother person to court. Dialogue: 0,0:22:11.33,0:22:16.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's the person that wins or lose.\NWhat about the Self? Dialogue: 0,0:22:18.49,0:22:22.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q1: Nothing. [laughs]\NM: Is it important to know this? Dialogue: 0,0:22:22.01,0:22:24.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q1: Yeah.\NM: Yeah. Dialogue: 0,0:22:24.46,0:22:29.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Okay, so when we speak about—\NI'll come back to your letter now. Dialogue: 0,0:22:29.37,0:22:36.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Reads the letter] You say,\N'I don't know how to observe with detachment.' Dialogue: 0,0:22:36.08,0:22:40.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Does the Self need to know \Nhow to observe with detachment? Dialogue: 0,0:22:40.83,0:22:45.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Questioner shakes head, no]\NM: Why? Dialogue: 0,0:22:45.23,0:22:50.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q1: It doesn't need anything.\NM: It doesn't need anything. Dialogue: 0,0:22:50.39,0:22:54.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yet everything is known to it. Dialogue: 0,0:22:54.19,0:22:57.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The play of the mind, \Nor da da da da, it knows, Dialogue: 0,0:22:57.92,0:23:02.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it's not impacted upon.\NQ1: No. Dialogue: 0,0:23:02.96,0:23:09.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,M: There is a link between \Nthe sense of the person and the inner Self. Dialogue: 0,0:23:09.56,0:23:14.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When the person, who cannot exist \Nwithout the inner Self, Dialogue: 0,0:23:14.74,0:23:23.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when it gets into states of confusion and pain, Dialogue: 0,0:23:23.13,0:23:26.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if it doesn't realise its root as the inner Self, Dialogue: 0,0:23:26.83,0:23:29.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it goes floating off and trouble can come. Dialogue: 0,0:23:29.60,0:23:32.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Mental problems can come. Sickness can come. Dialogue: 0,0:23:32.43,0:23:35.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Anger can come. Fear come. Everything come. Dialogue: 0,0:23:35.14,0:23:39.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it's very important that \Nthis personal sense Dialogue: 0,0:23:39.04,0:23:41.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,become aware of its root. Dialogue: 0,0:23:41.88,0:23:48.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q1: Yes, and when I tried to do this exercise, \NI cannot come to this. Dialogue: 0,0:23:48.05,0:23:53.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,M: Who is doing the exercise?\NQ1: Yes it's the mind and the person Dialogue: 0,0:23:53.18,0:23:57.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the one who wants to stop suffering.\NM: Right. Dialogue: 0,0:23:57.95,0:24:01.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What knows this? Dialogue: 0,0:24:04.00,0:24:08.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What is aware of this?\NIs it the person-mind or the inner Self? Dialogue: 0,0:24:08.49,0:24:11.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q1: The inner Self.\NM: Yeah. Is the inner Self troubled? Dialogue: 0,0:24:11.94,0:24:14.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q1: No. Dialogue: 0,0:24:14.17,0:24:18.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,M: Still, the exercise is good,\Nbecause this is the real yoga. Dialogue: 0,0:24:18.97,0:24:22.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yoga means the coming together into oneness; Dialogue: 0,0:24:22.27,0:24:28.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where the sense of the person \Nhas to rediscover its root. Dialogue: 0,0:24:28.49,0:24:30.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The person cannot live by itself. Dialogue: 0,0:24:30.87,0:24:37.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Even when it's not aware of the Self,\Nit still comes from the Self. Dialogue: 0,0:24:37.78,0:24:43.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So largely the human expression \Nof the consciousness self Dialogue: 0,0:24:43.28,0:24:46.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is self-aware as a person. Dialogue: 0,0:24:46.71,0:24:51.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so it can go for lifetimes,\Nin the human lifetime, living the person, Dialogue: 0,0:24:51.21,0:24:55.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because it's a big world, its dreams,\Nand 'I have to go do this. Dialogue: 0,0:24:55.13,0:25:00.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I like this, I don't like that,' and da da da.\NMaybe life after life. Dialogue: 0,0:25:00.21,0:25:03.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'This life I love, I love ice cream. \NI'd die for ice cream.' Dialogue: 0,0:25:03.95,0:25:08.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Next life, 'I can't stand ice cream.'\NThere's nothing consistent about it. Dialogue: 0,0:25:08.08,0:25:13.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Except that it cannot exist \Nwithout the real Self, Dialogue: 0,0:25:13.23,0:25:16.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it has intelligence also. Dialogue: 0,0:25:16.23,0:25:21.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, when it happens to this personal self, Dialogue: 0,0:25:21.71,0:25:25.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for some reason, \Nit's being attracted to find out, Dialogue: 0,0:25:25.36,0:25:27.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,maybe it suffers enough in the world Dialogue: 0,0:25:27.75,0:25:31.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it wants to find a solution for it. Dialogue: 0,0:25:31.68,0:25:37.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the only solid solution \Nis to discover where it comes from, Dialogue: 0,0:25:37.43,0:25:42.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that where it come from, and itself, are one. Dialogue: 0,0:25:42.51,0:25:44.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's what the search of life is. Dialogue: 0,0:25:44.79,0:25:49.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because all the beings who are not aware\Nof this oneness with the Self, Dialogue: 0,0:25:49.13,0:25:54.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all of them suffer. All have problem. You see. Dialogue: 0,0:25:54.77,0:25:58.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So this is the purpose of our satsang, Dialogue: 0,0:25:58.99,0:26:03.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that the consciousness,\Nin the form of a person, Dialogue: 0,0:26:03.60,0:26:05.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,becomes attracted to its root, Dialogue: 0,0:26:05.90,0:26:09.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and not just attracted \Nto the world in front of it. Dialogue: 0,0:26:09.67,0:26:14.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so this exercise like detachment,\Nmeaning that whatever is going on, Dialogue: 0,0:26:14.66,0:26:19.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to go in the world, to do,\Nthe this, and self-image, Dialogue: 0,0:26:19.53,0:26:21.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,self-image, self-assessments, Dialogue: 0,0:26:21.98,0:26:29.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all of this is a play of the mind,\Nis mind states. Dialogue: 0,0:26:29.10,0:26:35.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it has to realise that \Nall states are changeful, okay, Dialogue: 0,0:26:35.76,0:26:41.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that it can witness them,\Nit can observe them, without being them. Dialogue: 0,0:26:41.01,0:26:46.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In fact, you can only observe something\Nbecause you're not it, actually. Dialogue: 0,0:26:46.18,0:26:54.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that there's a capacity \Neven in the person to observe, Dialogue: 0,0:26:54.16,0:26:59.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and in observing them\Nit knows that it's not them. Dialogue: 0,0:26:59.21,0:27:03.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that characteristic is like its parent. Dialogue: 0,0:27:03.80,0:27:08.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You see, the person, the characteristic\Nof looking and realising that, Dialogue: 0,0:27:08.16,0:27:14.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'Whatever I see is only an impression,\Na thought, and a feeling, Dialogue: 0,0:27:14.81,0:27:19.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it's not what I am,'\Nthat's called {\i1}awakening{\i0} Dialogue: 0,0:27:19.12,0:27:22.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's waking up to the fact that nothing out here Dialogue: 0,0:27:22.65,0:27:25.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,comes through the mind or the senses, Dialogue: 0,0:27:25.03,0:27:30.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,nothing of there can be fundamental to me.\NAll of it is changing. Dialogue: 0,0:27:30.11,0:27:36.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And even myself as the person \Nwho is looking and knowing this, Dialogue: 0,0:27:36.36,0:27:40.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's like on the verge of this way - world. Dialogue: 0,0:27:40.50,0:27:43.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This way - into the abyss of the Self. Dialogue: 0,0:27:43.49,0:27:46.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because it has a capacity that when it looks Dialogue: 0,0:27:46.28,0:27:51.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and is not identified with what it sees \Nor what its experience is, Dialogue: 0,0:27:51.95,0:27:55.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,each thing comes, like life is saying,\N'This thing and this thing.' Dialogue: 0,0:27:55.78,0:28:00.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it's saying, 'No, it's not this.\NIt's not this. What I am is not this.' Dialogue: 0,0:28:00.35,0:28:07.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As you keep doing that, it naturally \Ncomes back to its original Self-awareness. Dialogue: 0,0:28:07.48,0:28:10.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I say, Self-awareness, \Nnon-dual Self-awareness, Dialogue: 0,0:28:10.37,0:28:14.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like not one thing, not a divided union, Dialogue: 0,0:28:14.12,0:28:17.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but a harmony comes back into realising, Dialogue: 0,0:28:17.87,0:28:22.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'But here nothing is happening to me.' Dialogue: 0,0:28:22.00,0:28:24.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When I go into the mind, into identity, Dialogue: 0,0:28:24.98,0:28:27.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then happenings becomes relevant. Dialogue: 0,0:28:27.53,0:28:33.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But if I even can observe \Nand be aware of even my person, Dialogue: 0,0:28:33.07,0:28:37.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is like my person is like the... Dialogue: 0,0:28:37.86,0:28:43.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What you call this?\NThe binoculars that sees the world, Dialogue: 0,0:28:43.27,0:28:45.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but the person who sees the world Dialogue: 0,0:28:45.46,0:28:48.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is also seen from the place of the Self. Dialogue: 0,0:28:48.04,0:28:54.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When it knows this, it's coming back into\Nconscious harmony. Dialogue: 0,0:28:54.22,0:28:56.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's all the thing of detachment is. Dialogue: 0,0:28:56.83,0:29:00.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You don't have to kill anything.\NIt's just understanding. Dialogue: 0,0:29:00.96,0:29:05.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The realisation of the Self \Nis a journey of understanding, Dialogue: 0,0:29:05.14,0:29:07.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and understanding your misunderstanding. Dialogue: 0,0:29:07.76,0:29:10.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it's simple. Unless we get it,\Nit might seem, Dialogue: 0,0:29:10.59,0:29:14.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'It's the most complex thing.' Why? \NBecause you're not used to doing it. Dialogue: 0,0:29:14.39,0:29:18.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You're looking—each one is \Nused to looking forward, looking outward. Dialogue: 0,0:29:18.71,0:29:22.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Even sometimes when you think \Nwe're looking inward into our mind, Dialogue: 0,0:29:22.40,0:29:25.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's still outward from the inner Self. Dialogue: 0,0:29:25.36,0:29:28.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q1: Yeah, and this happens a lot, Dialogue: 0,0:29:28.16,0:29:33.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because I go in, in and then it's the body. Dialogue: 0,0:29:33.12,0:29:36.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I cannot go beyond.\NM: You're in the body-mind. Dialogue: 0,0:29:36.29,0:29:40.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But something behind that knows this thing. Dialogue: 0,0:29:40.01,0:29:44.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The mind cannot make an ultimate realisation Dialogue: 0,0:29:44.58,0:29:48.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,without becoming the realisation. Dialogue: 0,0:29:48.38,0:29:53.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The mind or the person \Ncannot come to ultimate realisation Dialogue: 0,0:29:53.83,0:29:57.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and remain independent of that realisation. Dialogue: 0,0:29:57.31,0:30:04.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The more it becomes aware, \Nthe more it finds it is. Not that it has. Dialogue: 0,0:30:04.68,0:30:08.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this is very significant thing. Dialogue: 0,0:30:08.53,0:30:13.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Nobody can {\i1}have the realisation{\i0}\Nand be somebody who has realisation. Dialogue: 0,0:30:13.81,0:30:17.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What it means is that, the idea of yourself Dialogue: 0,0:30:17.03,0:30:21.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as being only the person,\Nsubsides again, and is seen, Dialogue: 0,0:30:21.25,0:30:26.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it is seen as also the most subtle object. Dialogue: 0,0:30:26.42,0:30:31.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This subtle object of a person \Nis behaving like a subject, Dialogue: 0,0:30:31.25,0:30:34.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that everything in its world is the object. Dialogue: 0,0:30:34.23,0:30:38.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But to the Self, it also is the {\i1}first object.{\i0} Dialogue: 0,0:30:38.34,0:30:44.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The first object shines as this feeling 'I',\N'I am here'. Dialogue: 0,0:30:44.80,0:30:48.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, 'Mia!' 'Yeah, I'm here.'\NWhat it means, 'I am here'? Dialogue: 0,0:30:48.77,0:30:53.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The reference normally is, 'Look, I'm over here. Dialogue: 0,0:30:53.16,0:30:56.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this is okay, this is normal, \Nthis is the only place Dialogue: 0,0:30:56.49,0:30:59.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where language can exist, in that way. Dialogue: 0,0:30:59.06,0:31:01.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The language is for the sense of the person Dialogue: 0,0:31:01.89,0:31:06.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,having relationship with what it likes or dislike. Dialogue: 0,0:31:06.99,0:31:09.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Actually, there's nothing wrong \Nwith this, ultimately. Dialogue: 0,0:31:09.97,0:31:12.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because even as you wake up\Nagain to realise that, Dialogue: 0,0:31:12.69,0:31:16.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whatever happens, it's seen from this place. Dialogue: 0,0:31:16.31,0:31:18.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But this place cannot be seen, Dialogue: 0,0:31:18.71,0:31:23.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that I can only really be this place. Dialogue: 0,0:31:23.83,0:31:27.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then when you really know this,\Nthe dynamic expression of this, Dialogue: 0,0:31:27.84,0:31:31.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is like of being a person,\Nthat can still play, Dialogue: 0,0:31:31.33,0:31:34.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it won't have that delusion in it. Dialogue: 0,0:31:34.79,0:31:38.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q1: Yes. This delusion has to go. Dialogue: 0,0:31:38.72,0:31:41.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,M: No, it needs to be understood.\NQ1: Yeah. Dialogue: 0,0:31:41.80,0:31:44.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,M: It doesn't go. Why it needs to go? Dialogue: 0,0:31:44.66,0:31:47.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because you are combining it with your identity Dialogue: 0,0:31:47.78,0:31:50.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it hurts like, 'No, no, no, no.' Dialogue: 0,0:31:50.29,0:31:53.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But all this now, \Nyou're going to see all of this Dialogue: 0,0:31:53.41,0:31:56.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are constructs of the mind. Dialogue: 0,0:31:56.15,0:32:00.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the self is just a psychological portrait Dialogue: 0,0:32:00.21,0:32:03.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the mind, of the person. Dialogue: 0,0:32:03.26,0:32:07.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But the inner being, which has no shape,\Nyou can't identify and say, Dialogue: 0,0:32:07.72,0:32:10.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'Ah I found the inner being.' \NYou cannot do that. Dialogue: 0,0:32:10.97,0:32:16.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because anything you can do that with,\Nis an object in the perception. Dialogue: 0,0:32:17.88,0:32:20.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,M: You got it, isn't it?\NQ1: Yes. Dialogue: 0,0:32:20.06,0:32:24.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,M: Okay. So okay, so prove your problem.\NGo on. Dialogue: 0,0:32:41.82,0:32:45.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You see, you will need to sit with this,\Nmore and more. Dialogue: 0,0:32:45.78,0:32:49.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because it's like shape shifting.\NOne minute you think you're looking Dialogue: 0,0:32:49.50,0:32:55.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the next minute you're involved, invested. Dialogue: 0,0:32:55.10,0:33:02.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Don't get angry about this,\Nbecause it's been happening for lifetimes. Dialogue: 0,0:33:02.31,0:33:04.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, let it happen, it's okay. Dialogue: 0,0:33:04.58,0:33:08.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just keep seeing, but wait a minute, \Nthis can be seen also. Dialogue: 0,0:33:08.20,0:33:13.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The most intimate \Nis also an object of perception. Dialogue: 0,0:33:13.89,0:33:18.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The most intimate, \Nbecause 'intimate' means at least two. Dialogue: 0,0:33:18.33,0:33:22.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If there's not two, there is no intimate. Dialogue: 0,0:33:28.16,0:33:34.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Can you be confused, {\i1}'you'{\i0}, \Nin the light of what I'm sharing? Dialogue: 0,0:33:34.02,0:33:36.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q1: No, no.\NM: Thank you. Dialogue: 0,0:33:36.80,0:33:39.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But you can be aware of confusion.\NQ1: Yeah. Dialogue: 0,0:33:39.95,0:33:44.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,M: If you can be aware of confusion \Nwithout identifying with confusion, Dialogue: 0,0:33:44.42,0:33:47.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are you cheating? Dialogue: 0,0:33:47.40,0:33:50.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q1: No, no. [laughs] Dialogue: 0,0:33:52.36,0:33:54.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,M: Very good. Dialogue: 0,0:33:56.82,0:34:01.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So let's start again from the beginning.\NWhat's your problem? Dialogue: 0,0:34:09.60,0:34:16.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q1: That when I do this exercise,\NI believe I need to find something. Dialogue: 0,0:34:16.32,0:34:20.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,M: 'I' being what? Qualify your status here. Dialogue: 0,0:34:20.77,0:34:22.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q1: The person. Dialogue: 0,0:34:22.77,0:34:25.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,M: When the person do the exercise?\NQ1: Yeah. Dialogue: 0,0:34:25.99,0:34:31.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,M: There's another word for person \Nin this exercise, Dialogue: 0,0:34:31.28,0:34:34.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would call it, Dialogue: 0,0:34:34.07,0:34:42.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when the personalised intelligence of the truth, Dialogue: 0,0:34:42.80,0:34:48.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when the personal intelligence of God Dialogue: 0,0:34:48.00,0:34:54.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,gets confused with its projections,\Nthen it's like it's lost to itself. Dialogue: 0,0:34:54.72,0:34:57.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's like it's lost to itself. Dialogue: 0,0:34:57.01,0:35:01.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When that loss to itself becomes painful, Dialogue: 0,0:35:01.88,0:35:07.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you're on the brink of awakening.\NYou understand? Dialogue: 0,0:35:07.47,0:35:11.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because if you're not troubled by it,\Nthen you will not go beyond it. Dialogue: 0,0:35:11.97,0:35:17.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q1: When it's just pain, pain, pain. [laughs] Dialogue: 0,0:35:17.11,0:35:22.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,M: 'No pain, no gain,' they say.\NYou have to... Dialogue: 0,0:35:22.33,0:35:27.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's like, in a way, \Nyou're giving birth to yourself. Dialogue: 0,0:35:27.92,0:35:35.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q1: Because I sit and I do,\Nbut I feel like there is no result. Dialogue: 0,0:35:35.44,0:35:39.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,M: You, again, who is sitting and looking, is what? Dialogue: 0,0:35:39.45,0:35:42.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q1: The person. \N[laughter] Dialogue: 0,0:35:44.94,0:35:47.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,M: Does it matter that \Nwe are catching it like that? Dialogue: 0,0:35:47.78,0:35:49.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That it's the person doing it, Dialogue: 0,0:35:49.88,0:35:54.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that what the person cries about today,\Nlaughs about another moment, Dialogue: 0,0:35:54.22,0:35:56.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that it's not consistent. Dialogue: 0,0:35:56.78,0:36:01.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And even if it says, 'Eureka, I found the Self!'\NCan it be true? Dialogue: 0,0:36:01.00,0:36:03.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q1: No.\NM: Why not? Dialogue: 0,0:36:03.43,0:36:05.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q1: Because it cannot be seen. Dialogue: 0,0:36:05.98,0:36:10.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q1: And if it lends to some illusion of... Dialogue: 0,0:36:10.21,0:36:14.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,M: So then what's the practice for? Dialogue: 0,0:36:18.18,0:36:22.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q1: To become aware of all this— Dialogue: 0,0:36:27.64,0:36:34.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wrong ideas.\NM: Yeah, that's one way we can put it. Dialogue: 0,0:36:34.07,0:36:36.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Tell me another way we can put it. \NThat's good. Dialogue: 0,0:36:36.85,0:36:40.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I take that, to become aware \Nof all these kind of little— Dialogue: 0,0:36:40.94,0:36:46.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all these little kind of distortions \Nof understanding, Dialogue: 0,0:36:46.69,0:36:50.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to become aware of them.\NMore subtle than that. Dialogue: 0,0:36:50.92,0:36:56.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,By becoming aware of them,\Nyou become aware of what? Dialogue: 0,0:36:56.68,0:37:01.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q1: Of that which is seeing.\NM: Is seeing, yeah. Dialogue: 0,0:37:01.62,0:37:07.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How can you become...\Nbe aware of it phenomenally? Dialogue: 0,0:37:07.04,0:37:09.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Can you become aware of it phenomenally? Dialogue: 0,0:37:09.83,0:37:11.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q1: No.\NM: No. Dialogue: 0,0:37:11.91,0:37:15.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So therefore, you become aware of what? Dialogue: 0,0:37:15.36,0:37:20.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q1: It feels like it's just the moments\Nof this awareness. Dialogue: 0,0:37:20.69,0:37:25.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,M: Yeah. It will flicker before, \Nbecause you're not used to it. Dialogue: 0,0:37:25.12,0:37:27.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The reflex is used to going out and connecting Dialogue: 0,0:37:27.86,0:37:31.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with objects of projections \Nand perception, used to that. Dialogue: 0,0:37:31.25,0:37:35.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But now I'm asking you to... \NAll this is happening for everyone. Dialogue: 0,0:37:35.13,0:37:38.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And even the one who says,\N'But this is happening to me, Dialogue: 0,0:37:38.47,0:37:42.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I find it frustrating!'\NWith where I'm asking you to do, Dialogue: 0,0:37:42.13,0:37:47.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is to see that that also \Nis an aspect of the mind. Dialogue: 0,0:37:47.95,0:37:51.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But all of these aspects, they came originally Dialogue: 0,0:37:51.20,0:37:55.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from out of this projection forward.\NCan you see? Dialogue: 0,0:37:55.82,0:37:57.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q1: Yeah.\NM: Yeah. Dialogue: 0,0:37:57.84,0:38:06.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that the real opportunity \Nis in seeing this. Dialogue: 0,0:38:06.37,0:38:10.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But still something is feeling,\N'No, but mind is still troubling. Dialogue: 0,0:38:10.10,0:38:15.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Mind is still troubling.'\NNo, don't worry. It's troubling who? Dialogue: 0,0:38:15.50,0:38:20.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Who is the mind troubling? Dialogue: 0,0:38:20.10,0:38:23.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We can say together after three. One, two, three.\NQ1: No one. Dialogue: 0,0:38:23.81,0:38:27.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,M: The person. Oh, no one!\NOh, you beat me to it! Dialogue: 0,0:38:27.32,0:38:31.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's troubling no one!\NIt's troubling {\i1}no one.{\i0} Dialogue: 0,0:38:31.19,0:38:35.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's a better answer than the person.\N[Questioner laughs] Dialogue: 0,0:38:35.47,0:38:37.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,M: You see this?\NQ1: Yeah. Dialogue: 0,0:38:37.53,0:38:39.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,M: Okay. Dialogue: 0,0:38:40.71,0:38:43.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So now what? Dialogue: 0,0:38:47.49,0:38:51.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's enough or not enough? Dialogue: 0,0:38:54.38,0:38:57.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q1: I don't know. Dialogue: 0,0:38:57.30,0:39:02.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,M: Who is saying? Who is...\NWhere this answer is coming from? Dialogue: 0,0:39:06.90,0:39:10.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I can accept it, or I can question it,\N'I don't know.' Dialogue: 0,0:39:10.50,0:39:15.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'I'-who don't know? Dialogue: 0,0:39:15.05,0:39:17.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q1: It's the person.\NM: It's the person. Dialogue: 0,0:39:17.67,0:39:19.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q1: Yeah.\NM: Yeah, sure? Dialogue: 0,0:39:19.74,0:39:23.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q1: No. [laughs]\NM: It can be from the person. Dialogue: 0,0:39:23.28,0:39:25.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you say it's from the person, okay, Dialogue: 0,0:39:25.98,0:39:28.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then I would say, You give me one more move. Dialogue: 0,0:39:28.77,0:39:34.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But what's aware that it's coming from the person? Dialogue: 0,0:39:34.35,0:39:39.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q1: Yes. Something feels like it's not satisfied, Dialogue: 0,0:39:39.26,0:39:45.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I should not go after. Dialogue: 0,0:39:45.44,0:39:49.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,M: Yes. This is a powerful seeing, Dialogue: 0,0:39:49.19,0:39:51.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'Something feels not satisfied.' Dialogue: 0,0:39:51.73,0:39:57.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That which feels not satisfied,\Nit's personal or impersonal? Dialogue: 0,0:39:57.33,0:40:00.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q1: It's personal.\NM: Personal. Dialogue: 0,0:40:00.65,0:40:04.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You see, if that gets you each time,\Nlike the person goes, Dialogue: 0,0:40:04.12,0:40:09.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'Yeah, I know, Guruji, \Nbut, you know, can't get... ' Who's speaking? Dialogue: 0,0:40:09.75,0:40:12.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q1: Person.\NM: Yeah. Dialogue: 0,0:40:12.55,0:40:15.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we will finish on that note? Dialogue: 0,0:40:15.23,0:40:21.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q1: Uh, person? No. [laughs]\NM: Thank you. Okay. Where? Dialogue: 0,0:40:29.20,0:40:33.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What does finish mean? Dialogue: 0,0:40:33.63,0:40:37.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q1: Just this conversation.\NFinish the conversation. Dialogue: 0,0:40:37.88,0:40:43.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,M: The conversation can finish \Nin its oral manifestation. Dialogue: 0,0:40:43.71,0:40:46.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It may go to be some kind of little stuff Dialogue: 0,0:40:46.58,0:40:49.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the mind that feels like,\N'Yeah, I don't know. Dialogue: 0,0:40:49.79,0:40:53.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had a talk with Mooji,\Nand it was really clear, Dialogue: 0,0:40:53.03,0:40:56.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but now it's not clear.' Is report from? Dialogue: 0,0:40:56.02,0:40:58.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q1: The mind.\NM: From the mind. Dialogue: 0,0:40:58.33,0:41:02.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it is that ultimate?\NQ1: No. Dialogue: 0,0:41:02.05,0:41:06.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,M: No. What is ultimate? Dialogue: 0,0:41:06.27,0:41:09.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q1: That which is aware of this. Dialogue: 0,0:41:09.54,0:41:12.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,M: Yes, yes. Dialogue: 0,0:41:12.25,0:41:15.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,M: Which is where? Dialogue: 0,0:41:15.78,0:41:18.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q1: It's nowhere. Dialogue: 0,0:41:18.78,0:41:22.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,M: Why are you smiling? \N[Questioner laughs] Dialogue: 0,0:41:28.60,0:41:34.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, you have a problem? Dialogue: 0,0:41:34.17,0:41:37.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q1: No. \N[Laughter] Dialogue: 0,0:41:37.53,0:41:42.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Can you, from this place of answering,\Never have a problem? Dialogue: 0,0:41:42.77,0:41:45.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q1: No. No. Dialogue: 0,0:41:51.01,0:41:56.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,M: Are you sad or happy about this? Dialogue: 0,0:41:59.65,0:42:02.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q1: Nothing.\NM: Very good. Dialogue: 0,0:42:04.82,0:42:08.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,More subtle than even happy. Dialogue: 0,0:42:13.41,0:42:17.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah. We're good? Dialogue: 0,0:42:19.59,0:42:22.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you go walking \Nand the mind comes again and says, Dialogue: 0,0:42:22.69,0:42:26.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'I can't remember anything about that. Dialogue: 0,0:42:26.68,0:42:30.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm going to try and see if I can \Nget that mood back.' Was it a mood? Dialogue: 0,0:42:30.60,0:42:34.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q1: No.\NM: It's not a mood. [laughter] Dialogue: 0,0:42:34.14,0:42:38.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Can you lose this? Dialogue: 0,0:42:38.64,0:42:40.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q1: No.\NM: No. Dialogue: 0,0:42:42.33,0:42:46.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Can you possess this?\NQ1: No. Dialogue: 0,0:42:49.52,0:42:52.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,M: Very good. Dialogue: 0,0:42:56.37,0:42:58.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm happy. Very good. Dialogue: 0,0:42:58.95,0:43:02.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, the rest I don't have to read, no? Dialogue: 0,0:43:02.64,0:43:06.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Reads letter] 'I don't know how to \Nbe aware that I am aware. Dialogue: 0,0:43:06.84,0:43:08.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Questioner laughs] Dialogue: 0,0:43:08.93,0:43:14.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I still see this 'I'-identity as real.\NPlease help, Mia.' Dialogue: 0,0:43:14.80,0:43:16.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do we need?\NQ1: No. Dialogue: 0,0:43:16.94,0:43:21.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,M: Very good. Can I keep it?\NQ1: Yes. I mean, throw it. Dialogue: 0,0:43:21.80,0:43:25.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,M: Throw it, keep it.\NI'm happy you're like this. It's good. Dialogue: 0,0:43:25.28,0:43:31.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q1: You don't need to keep it.\NM: Because this, [touches letter] Dialogue: 0,0:43:31.52,0:43:37.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I call it an auspicious reaching out \Nto clarify something. Dialogue: 0,0:43:37.29,0:43:42.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And to that extent, it's very... Dialogue: 0,0:43:42.17,0:43:44.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, it's not a game. Dialogue: 0,0:43:44.73,0:43:50.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We can say it is like a game,\Nbut it's not a cynical game. Dialogue: 0,0:43:50.69,0:43:57.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's, you may say, a game or a play or Dialogue: 0,0:43:57.22,0:44:02.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,something that needs to happen Dialogue: 0,0:44:02.22,0:44:06.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the human expression of consciousness, Dialogue: 0,0:44:06.43,0:44:11.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when it comes to a stage where \Nits world is not working. Dialogue: 0,0:44:11.20,0:44:14.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I don't see that as a disaster. Dialogue: 0,0:44:14.14,0:44:18.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I see it as opportunity \Nto look behind the scene. Dialogue: 0,0:44:18.04,0:44:23.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q1: Yes, yes. I want to take \Nevery opportunity to look. Dialogue: 0,0:44:23.05,0:44:26.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,M: Okay. Now? Right now? Dialogue: 0,0:44:26.98,0:44:30.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q1: Always, yeah, now.\NM: Yeah. Okay. Dialogue: 0,0:44:30.83,0:44:33.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do you need to look further now? Dialogue: 0,0:44:33.76,0:44:36.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q1: I can do, yeah.\NM: Yeah. Dialogue: 0,0:44:36.72,0:44:40.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,M: Yeah. Good.\NQ1: Yeah, yeah. [laughs] Dialogue: 0,0:44:40.36,0:44:44.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,M: Thank you. Very good. Dialogue: 0,0:44:47.56,0:44:50.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And you don't need to talk \Nto anybody about it. Dialogue: 0,0:44:50.30,0:44:53.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just you sit with that, and watch. Dialogue: 0,0:44:53.61,0:45:00.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And however tricky the mind can be,\Nyou remember, it is secondary. Dialogue: 0,0:45:00.69,0:45:04.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That which is primary, is seeing that. Dialogue: 0,0:45:04.00,0:45:07.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the mind can come in the form \Nof thought or moods or sensation, Dialogue: 0,0:45:07.99,0:45:10.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it can appear like confusion, Dialogue: 0,0:45:10.75,0:45:16.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it appears as identity, \Nbut it's still only appearing. Dialogue: 0,0:45:16.29,0:45:21.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Can the Self appear? No. Dialogue: 0,0:45:21.58,0:45:26.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it causes the appearing \Nof the mind play and the diversity. Dialogue: 0,0:45:26.56,0:45:32.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But it itself is indescribable actually. Dialogue: 0,0:45:34.41,0:45:38.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So at this point I would say, \Nsit and contemplate that. Dialogue: 0,0:45:38.20,0:45:41.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah. That's all you have to do. Dialogue: 0,0:45:41.33,0:45:47.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You see, it sounds as though from what\Nyou write, somebody might think, Dialogue: 0,0:45:47.29,0:45:50.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'Wow, I feel she's in real trouble.'\NBut for me, I think, what a opportunity, Dialogue: 0,0:45:50.98,0:45:53.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I got to find out from you,\Nwe can look together. Dialogue: 0,0:45:53.70,0:45:57.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it's all in you. It's all you. Dialogue: 0,0:46:02.08,0:46:04.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Very good. Dialogue: 0,0:46:05.37,0:46:08.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Would you like some tea or something?\NDid you get something or are you okay? Dialogue: 0,0:46:08.63,0:46:12.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q1: I think I have some food waiting for me.\NM: Go and eat the food now, it's cold. Dialogue: 0,0:46:12.70,0:46:16.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's the only food \Nthat's worth eating cold right now. Dialogue: 0,0:46:16.12,0:46:18.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q1: It's... Dialogue: 0,0:46:18.38,0:46:23.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,M: Thank you. Wonderful, darling.\NThank you, thank you, thank you, Dialogue: 0,0:46:23.93,0:46:28.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Q1: Thank you so much.\NM: Yes. See you in a bit. Dialogue: 0,0:46:28.33,0:46:32.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Okay. Okay. \NQ1: Thank you. Dialogue: 0,0:46:37.48,0:46:39.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,M: If you are earnest, then you must do. Dialogue: 0,0:46:39.99,0:46:42.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can walk the same road. Dialogue: 0,0:46:42.49,0:46:45.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's fresh every time.