WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:01.040 00:00:01.040 --> 00:00:03.320 SPEAKER: Next up are recent college grads 00:00:03.320 --> 00:00:06.416 who believe they have a better way to stay recharged. 00:00:06.416 --> 00:00:14.175 00:00:14.175 --> 00:00:16.550 BILL SHUAN: Sharks, my name is Bill Shuan, the co-founder 00:00:16.550 --> 00:00:17.520 and CEO of Amber. 00:00:17.520 --> 00:00:19.020 KYLE BYRD: And my name is Kyle Byrd. 00:00:19.020 --> 00:00:21.390 I'm head of product and a co-founder at Amber. 00:00:21.390 --> 00:00:24.860 BILL SHUAN: Sharks, today, we are raising $200,000 in exchange 00:00:24.860 --> 00:00:26.455 for 20% stake within Amber. 00:00:26.455 --> 00:00:27.830 KYLE BYRD: Sharks, how many times 00:00:27.830 --> 00:00:30.500 have you been at an airport and had your phone tragically 00:00:30.500 --> 00:00:31.255 die in your arms? 00:00:31.255 --> 00:00:32.920 You know our pain all too well. 00:00:32.920 --> 00:00:34.670 The fact is, we didn't want to walk around 00:00:34.670 --> 00:00:36.170 with charters in our pockets or give 00:00:36.170 --> 00:00:37.587 our phones to bartenders to charge 00:00:37.587 --> 00:00:39.060 our phones in a public space. 00:00:39.060 --> 00:00:41.530 We saw a problem, and we came up with a solution. 00:00:41.530 --> 00:00:44.030 BILL SHUAN: Sharks, Amber is a mobile phone charging station 00:00:44.030 --> 00:00:45.830 that is completely free to use. 00:00:45.830 --> 00:00:48.080 We secure your device in one of our seven compartments 00:00:48.080 --> 00:00:50.640 using biometric scanning, namely fingerprint scanning. 00:00:50.640 --> 00:00:52.800 We made it super, super simple. 00:00:52.800 --> 00:00:54.350 Let's show you how it works. 00:00:54.350 --> 00:00:58.160 Simply walk up, scan their fingerprint, 00:00:58.160 --> 00:01:00.710 choose one of the available compartments, 00:01:00.710 --> 00:01:02.300 and whenever they're done, they simply 00:01:02.300 --> 00:01:05.910 re-scan their finger and one of the doors will unlock. 00:01:05.910 --> 00:01:07.800 KYLE BYRD: We realized that Amber wasn't just 00:01:07.800 --> 00:01:09.330 a free, secure way for people to charge 00:01:09.330 --> 00:01:11.280 their phones in a public space, but could also 00:01:11.280 --> 00:01:13.940 drive revenue for venues by keeping people around longer 00:01:13.940 --> 00:01:15.940 and heightening the overall customer experience. 00:01:15.940 --> 00:01:19.120 We want to put Amber in bars, restaurants, gyms, 00:01:19.120 --> 00:01:21.540 movie theaters, arenas, really anywhere, 00:01:21.540 --> 00:01:22.773 the list goes on and on. 00:01:22.773 --> 00:01:24.940 BILL SHUAN: Sharks, by securing an investment today, 00:01:24.940 --> 00:01:27.360 we can make our first big push into seeing Amber at venue 00:01:27.360 --> 00:01:28.630 across the nation. 00:01:28.630 --> 00:01:31.350 Now, who wants to secure a deal with Amber? 00:01:31.350 --> 00:01:34.170 MARK CUBAN: So is the product shipping? 00:01:34.170 --> 00:01:35.695 BILL SHUAN: So we are pre-revenue. 00:01:35.695 --> 00:01:37.570 KEVIN O'LEARY: I love that word, pre-revenue. 00:01:37.570 --> 00:01:39.730 KYLE BYRD: We just graduated a few weeks ago from college. 00:01:39.730 --> 00:01:40.450 MARK CUBAN: Where did you go to school? 00:01:40.450 --> 00:01:42.130 KYLE BYRD: James Madison University in Virginia. 00:01:42.130 --> 00:01:43.570 ROBERT HERJAVEC: Bill, walk me through the premise. 00:01:43.570 --> 00:01:44.680 You walk into a bar. 00:01:44.680 --> 00:01:45.100 BILL SHUAN: Sure. 00:01:45.100 --> 00:01:46.150 ROBERT HERJAVEC: I'm a bar owner. 00:01:46.150 --> 00:01:46.720 BILL SHUAN: You're a bar owner. 00:01:46.720 --> 00:01:48.130 ROBERT HERJAVEC: How much are you going to charge me? 00:01:48.130 --> 00:01:50.880 BILL SHUAN: So we will either charge you $2,000 outright 00:01:50.880 --> 00:01:53.573 for the unit, or you can lease it either on six, nine months. 00:01:53.573 --> 00:01:55.240 ROBERT HERJAVEC: So I buy it for $2,000. 00:01:55.240 --> 00:01:55.570 That's it. 00:01:55.570 --> 00:01:56.320 There's no more revenue. 00:01:56.320 --> 00:01:58.380 KYLE BYRD: Or you can get it right on your wall for $150 00:01:58.380 --> 00:01:58.900 right there. 00:01:58.900 --> 00:02:00.085 And it's a monthly $150. 00:02:00.085 --> 00:02:01.960 LORI GREINER: It's a convenience for the bar, 00:02:01.960 --> 00:02:04.290 but it's not something they have to have. 00:02:04.290 --> 00:02:05.280 KYLE BYRD: So actually right now, people 00:02:05.280 --> 00:02:06.750 are charging their phones in bars. 00:02:06.750 --> 00:02:07.750 They're giving them to bartenders, 00:02:07.750 --> 00:02:08.833 to waitresses and waiters. 00:02:08.833 --> 00:02:09.729 That's a liability. 00:02:09.729 --> 00:02:10.900 It's like, hey, can I get my phone. 00:02:10.900 --> 00:02:12.940 Will that waiter or waitress may have left, gotten off work, 00:02:12.940 --> 00:02:14.232 and now they have a lost phone. 00:02:14.232 --> 00:02:16.120 DAYMOND JOHN: Guys, you said a door locks. 00:02:16.120 --> 00:02:17.803 I didn't see a door lock. 00:02:17.803 --> 00:02:20.470 KYLE BYRD: So the locks in here is what we're using for testing. 00:02:20.470 --> 00:02:22.740 We're actually currently sourcing our locks 00:02:22.740 --> 00:02:23.650 through Master Lock. 00:02:23.650 --> 00:02:23.882 DAYMOND JOHN: OK. 00:02:23.882 --> 00:02:25.240 So there will be a door on there. 00:02:25.240 --> 00:02:25.830 KYLE BYRD: Yes. 00:02:25.830 --> 00:02:27.820 ROBERT HERJAVEC: Bill, have you tested the fingerprint scanner? 00:02:27.820 --> 00:02:28.090 BILL SHUAN: We have. 00:02:28.090 --> 00:02:29.880 We tested all on the back end, because I'm 00:02:29.880 --> 00:02:31.450 in the cybersecurity space. 00:02:31.450 --> 00:02:31.502 ROBERT HERJAVEC: Right. 00:02:31.502 --> 00:02:33.220 And here's what I know about fingerprint scanners. 00:02:33.220 --> 00:02:34.390 They can be very finicky. 00:02:34.390 --> 00:02:35.098 MARK CUBAN: Very. 00:02:35.098 --> 00:02:37.482 ROBERT HERJAVEC: Except for the very, very high end ones. 00:02:37.482 --> 00:02:39.315 With all due respect to you, the idea of you 00:02:39.315 --> 00:02:41.910 walking up once, putting your finger in there, 00:02:41.910 --> 00:02:45.280 and it recognizing you and the door coming down is ludicrous. 00:02:45.280 --> 00:02:47.500 We have a big Security Center. 00:02:47.500 --> 00:02:50.610 The fingerprint scanner that we pay for people to get into that 00:02:50.610 --> 00:02:54.150 center was, well, well over $50,000. 00:02:54.150 --> 00:02:55.840 There's no way for that price point 00:02:55.840 --> 00:02:57.030 you're going to buy a fingerprint scanner that's 00:02:57.030 --> 00:02:58.110 going to work that quickly. 00:02:58.110 --> 00:02:58.990 Here's how it's going to work. 00:02:58.990 --> 00:02:59.650 Someone's going to come up. 00:02:59.650 --> 00:03:00.750 They're going to go once. 00:03:00.750 --> 00:03:01.917 They're going to go twice. 00:03:01.917 --> 00:03:03.250 They're going to go three times. 00:03:03.250 --> 00:03:04.770 MARK CUBAN: Then they're going to pull it off the wall. 00:03:04.770 --> 00:03:05.070 ROBERT HERJAVEC: Yeah. 00:03:05.070 --> 00:03:06.600 And they're going to say-- and this 00:03:06.600 --> 00:03:08.910 is before they've had something to drink. 00:03:08.910 --> 00:03:11.550 MARK CUBAN: Tell us how much you've invested, because you've 00:03:11.550 --> 00:03:12.850 got to build prototypes. 00:03:12.850 --> 00:03:16.010 BILL SHUAN: So on our college budgets, we are sitting-- 00:03:16.010 --> 00:03:17.577 I think we're right around $11,000. 00:03:17.577 --> 00:03:19.785 MARK CUBAN: And what does it cost you to make a unit? 00:03:19.785 --> 00:03:22.964 KYLE BYRD: Right now, we can make the unit for $1,000. 00:03:22.964 --> 00:03:24.730 KEVIN O'LEARY: $1,000? 00:03:24.730 --> 00:03:28.540 This is going to end so badly. 00:03:28.540 --> 00:03:30.230 MARK CUBAN: That is such a bad business. 00:03:30.230 --> 00:03:31.400 DAYMOND JOHN: What are you-- 00:03:31.400 --> 00:03:35.290 you're saying the cost of it to buy is $2,000. 00:03:35.290 --> 00:03:39.190 KYLE BYRD: It's $150 a month or $2,000 outright. 00:03:39.190 --> 00:03:41.190 DAYMOND JOHN: Why would a bar pay you $2,000? 00:03:41.190 --> 00:03:42.940 When you go to the airport, those guys who 00:03:42.940 --> 00:03:44.980 have the big chargers, they issue it for free 00:03:44.980 --> 00:03:46.730 because they want to do their advertising. 00:03:46.730 --> 00:03:49.540 Why wouldn't a bar put one of those free devices 00:03:49.540 --> 00:03:50.667 behind the bar? 00:03:50.667 --> 00:03:53.000 LORI GREINER: I mean, why does anybody really need this? 00:03:53.000 --> 00:03:55.550 I think there's so many personal charging devices. 00:03:55.550 --> 00:03:57.520 And actually, I'm in the space right now. 00:03:57.520 --> 00:04:01.420 We're creating something that is light years ahead of this. 00:04:01.420 --> 00:04:03.490 I'm out. 00:04:03.490 --> 00:04:05.210 MARK CUBAN: The cost is horrible, guys. 00:04:05.210 --> 00:04:07.490 I mean, you've got to get this down under $100. 00:04:07.490 --> 00:04:09.740 KYLE BYRD: And that's exactly what we're trying to do. 00:04:09.740 --> 00:04:11.350 MARK CUBAN: But you're so far away, right? 00:04:11.350 --> 00:04:13.700 And I feel bad because you put in a lot of blood, sweat, 00:04:13.700 --> 00:04:14.210 and tears. 00:04:14.210 --> 00:04:14.630 KEVIN O'LEARY: Wait, wait. 00:04:14.630 --> 00:04:15.463 No sweat, and tears. 00:04:15.463 --> 00:04:17.140 Just blood in the water. 00:04:17.140 --> 00:04:17.640 Blood. 00:04:17.640 --> 00:04:19.098 KYLE BYRD: We've actually had a lot 00:04:19.098 --> 00:04:20.785 of interest from festivals and say, 00:04:20.785 --> 00:04:22.160 larger scale venues, conventions. 00:04:22.160 --> 00:04:23.785 So we actually-- we developed a product 00:04:23.785 --> 00:04:26.540 like putting it on a stand and having say, 14 units. 00:04:26.540 --> 00:04:28.820 MARK CUBAN: Look, whenever you have a lot of people, 00:04:28.820 --> 00:04:30.403 one of the things you don't want to do 00:04:30.403 --> 00:04:33.550 is create a reason for them to congregate in one spot waiting 00:04:33.550 --> 00:04:34.430 for something. 00:04:34.430 --> 00:04:36.290 All you're doing is creating more lines. 00:04:36.290 --> 00:04:37.670 And then the finger scanner. 00:04:37.670 --> 00:04:38.480 Someone was wet. 00:04:38.480 --> 00:04:39.740 Someone was grimy. 00:04:39.740 --> 00:04:40.730 You're at a festival. 00:04:40.730 --> 00:04:43.060 It's not going to be a clean environment. 00:04:43.060 --> 00:04:44.900 This is definitely not for me. 00:04:44.900 --> 00:04:46.032 I'm out. 00:04:46.032 --> 00:04:47.990 KEVIN O'LEARY: There's only one answer to this. 00:04:47.990 --> 00:04:51.040 I have to hire you both so I can fire you. 00:04:51.040 --> 00:04:52.490 This is so horrible. 00:04:52.490 --> 00:04:56.350 How do you think this has any chance of surviving and working? 00:04:56.350 --> 00:04:57.650 I hate this so much. 00:04:57.650 --> 00:04:58.370 It's incredible. 00:04:58.370 --> 00:05:00.162 It's one of the worst ideas I've ever seen. 00:05:00.162 --> 00:05:02.530 I'm out. 00:05:02.530 --> 00:05:05.090 DAYMOND JOHN: I have absolutely no interest in this business. 00:05:05.090 --> 00:05:05.590 I'm out. 00:05:05.590 --> 00:05:09.040 00:05:09.040 --> 00:05:10.653 BILL SHUAN: So we do have competition. 00:05:10.653 --> 00:05:11.320 There are a few. 00:05:11.320 --> 00:05:12.620 MARK CUBAN: Yeah, there's a lot of competitors. 00:05:12.620 --> 00:05:13.370 BILL SHUAN: Right. 00:05:13.370 --> 00:05:15.730 ROBERT HERJAVEC: Your biggest competitor is free. 00:05:15.730 --> 00:05:20.950 You've come out with an incredibly elegant solution 00:05:20.950 --> 00:05:23.860 to free. 00:05:23.860 --> 00:05:25.970 Look, I'm out. 00:05:25.970 --> 00:05:27.743 00:05:27.743 --> 00:05:28.910 MARK CUBAN: Good luck, guys. 00:05:28.910 --> 00:05:30.993 KYLE BYRD: Thank you guys very much for your time. 00:05:30.993 --> 00:05:33.457 00:05:33.457 --> 00:05:35.540 LORI GREINER: I think that was the shortest pitch. 00:05:35.540 --> 00:05:36.590 KEVIN O'LEARY: It's the worst pitch. 00:05:36.590 --> 00:05:36.880 That's why. 00:05:36.880 --> 00:05:37.730 DAYMOND JOHN: It's horrible. 00:05:37.730 --> 00:05:39.670 KEVIN O'LEARY: I thought you put your glass there, and fill it 00:05:39.670 --> 00:05:40.170 up. 00:05:40.170 --> 00:05:42.400 ROBERT HERJAVEC: Hey, he left his phone. 00:05:42.400 --> 00:05:43.940 BILL SHUAN: The cost was an issue. 00:05:43.940 --> 00:05:45.370 The security was an issue. 00:05:45.370 --> 00:05:46.460 I know it works. 00:05:46.460 --> 00:05:48.640 We've tested it a million times. 00:05:48.640 --> 00:05:51.110 I mean, I would probably go real Hershey back in the teeth. 00:05:51.110 --> 00:05:52.102 I mean, that's not-- 00:05:52.102 --> 00:05:53.060 KYLE BYRD: That's rude. 00:05:53.060 --> 00:05:54.200 BILL SHUAN: Dude, she want me to be honest. 00:05:54.200 --> 00:05:54.830 I'm being honest. 00:05:54.830 --> 00:05:55.413 KYLE BYRD: No. 00:05:55.413 --> 00:05:58.840 00:05:58.840 --> 00:06:00.400 KEVIN O'LEARY: Before you go, don't 00:06:00.400 --> 00:06:03.220 forget to subscribe to the Shark Tank YouTube channel 00:06:03.220 --> 00:06:06.400 and ring the notification bell to keep up with everything 00:06:06.400 --> 00:06:08.760 that's bubbling in the tank. 00:06:08.760 --> 00:06:28.000