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Econ Duel: Rent or Buy?

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    - [Tyler] So Alex, we're economists. Often
    people ask me, well what is it that we
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    know about investment and investment
    advice anyway? Now, we've already talked
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    about equities, but as economists do we
    have anything else to tell people?
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    - [Alex] Let's talk a little bit about
    housing, because housing is one of these
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    areas where there's a lot of myths
    around it. People in America,
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    it's part of the American Dream. And one
    thing I think people don't realize is that
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    over the long run, house prices are
    certainly not guaranteed to go up.
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    I mean we saw in the financial crisis
    that house prices came way down.
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    But there's still this kind of idea that
    people have in their heads that they're
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    not making any more land, so in the
    long run house prices have to go up.
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    And we know from our understanding of
    assets that you should not expect your
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    house to be a great financial investment.
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    - [Tyler] But isn't there a tax reason to buy a
    home? So if I borrow money for a mortgage,
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    and I'm paying income tax and itemizing my
    deductions, I can write off a lot of that
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    mortgage interest and get some of the
    money back. And that means it could be
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    cheaper or more advantageous to
    buy the home because of taxes.
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    - [Alex] But don't forget, a lot of that tax
    advantage is going to be captured not by
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    the buyer, but by the seller. What the tax
    advantage means is it pushes up the prices
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    of homes. It's already built into a
    higher price, so you, as the buyer,
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    don't always get that gain.
    Often it's the seller.
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    - [Tyler] Well, but think of this in
    terms of elasticity. Say I live in an area,
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    like many parts of Texas or Florida, where
    I get this tax break that increases the
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    demand for homes, yes. But then suppliers
    build more homes and they drive the price
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    back down again. And it seems that
    in a lot of states actually,
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    the buyer should be reaping a lot
    of that tax break. Yes, No?
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    - [Alex] If only there were more places
    in the United States like that,
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    I would tend to agree. But one of the big
    problems we have in the United States
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    today is that the demand for housing goes
    up and you're in some place like San
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    Francisco, or New York, or Boston where
    it's impossible to get permits to build
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    more housing. And when the demand goes up,
    all that means is the price of the house
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    goes up. So all of those gains,
    whether it's from the tax system,
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    or whether it's from people wanting to
    move to San Francisco, all of those gains
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    go to the land owners. And that's actually
    a big problem we have in the United States today.
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    - [Tyler] But I do see a stability reason
    to own a home. Say you're 37 years old,
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    you have 2 kids in school, you want them
    to go to a good high school district.
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    You don't want to be told, "You're going
    to have to move." You want to arrange your
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    backyard the way you see fit. And you
    don't want to have to renegotiate a rent
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    contract. All of those factors
    militate in favor of buying a home.
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    - [Alex] So I think you're right for those
    people. But one thing you've got to keep
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    in mind, is that on average, houses are
    not going to be a great financial
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    investment. So you have to be exactly one
    of those people who wants extra stability,
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    more stability than the average person.
    That's when you're going to gain from
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    buying a house. And, keep in mind, that
    when you buy a house and that heating
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    system collapses and you've got to
    repair that, that's a big problem.
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    When you're hit by a lightning strike
    and you've got to repair the roof,
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    that's a big expense as well. So when
    people say, "I'm only worried about the
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    rent going up." Well that's fine.
    They may be worried about that,
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    but don't forget, you've got to be worried
    about replacing the roof every 20 years, as well.
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    - [Tyler] So it's really a marginal question,
    you're saying. Like at the margin,
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    do you need the tax break more than
    the typical buyer? At the margin,
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    do you value the good high school district
    more than the typical buyer?
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    And at the margin, are you better at
    fixing the broken roof or hiring someone
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    to do it than the average buyer? And those
    things may or may not apply to you,
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    but that's the right way
    to think about it?
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    - [Alex] Exactly right, so if you want that
    tax advantage, you've got to be earning more
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    income than average. You've got to
    be itemizing your deductions.
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    If you're not one of those people in the
    upper middle class, you're not going to
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    get that tax advantage. If you've got one
    kid, maybe the school is not so important.
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    Maybe you have to have two before you
    really get that advantage from the
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    schooling. So yeah, you've got to be
    thinking about how you're different from
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    the average. If you really want to buy a
    home, you've got to love buying a home.
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    - [Tyler] I think of people as needing to save
    more typically. That we're programmed to
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    think about the here and now, we're a bit
    impatient. Perhaps we haven't evolved to
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    think well enough about the more
    distant future. If you buy a home,
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    pay off your mortgage at the end of 30,
    or one hopes 15 years,
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    you own something. In the meantime, you're
    saving. And you get into a routine that
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    doesn't even feel like saving. It's more
    savings than if you're writing a rent
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    check every month. So maybe it's our own
    imperfections. We need to lock ourselves
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    into a higher savings regime, and that's
    another possible reason to buy a home.
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    - [Alex] Yeah, I do think the forth
    savings argument has got something to it.
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    But there's a big problem, especially
    in the United States today,
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    and that is there's such an encouragement
    to buy houses with no money down,
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    even after the financial crisis. If you
    really are concerned about savings,
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    the key point is to have a 20%
    down payment. So save up for that
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    down payment. And that is really what is
    going to be the forth savings aspect
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    of buying the house.
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    - [Tyler] You know, I think the biggest piece
    of advice I'd give to people is just to be on
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    that wealthier side of the equation, so
    that owning a home makes sense for you.
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    - [Alex] Don't forget our earlier investment
    rule. Diversify, diversify, diversify.
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    And yet, when it comes to housing,
    people are encouraged to put a
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    huge amount of their wealth into one
    asset, in one place in the country.
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    That could be a terrible decision. If
    you're in a small town with only one
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    employer, and you have a house and that
    employer goes bust, well your house price
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    is going to fall, you might lose your job,
    your income is all going to fall,
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    and it's all going to be
    happening concentrated,
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    all in one place all at one time.
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Title:
Econ Duel: Rent or Buy?
Description:

Owning a home is a huge part of the American Dream. But is the dream of homeownership really all it’s cracked up to be?

In this new Econ Duel from Marginal Revolution University, Professors Tyler Cowen and Alex Tabarrok weigh in on the issue. Each representing a side of the home ownership debate, the two professors ask what’s smarter—to rent, or to buy?

On the “buy” side, Tyler Cowen shares the tax advantages of buying a home as well as the effect homeownership has on one’s stability and savings regimen. Does buying a home force us into better savings habits?

Against those arguments, we have Alex Tabarrok, coming down on the “rent” side of the equation.

Among other points, he talks about the real beneficiary of tax breaks (hint: It may not be you!). Along with that, Alex tackles the trials and tribulations of home-buying, in places like San Francisco, New York, or Boston, where a combination of scarce building permits and increased demand drive up home prices. Plus, doesn’t owning a home -- and committing a 20% down payment -- break the diversification rule of good investing?

All that said, though, here’s the real question that matters—which side are YOU on? Watch and let us know in the comments!

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