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<Is Being Average the Norm?>
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(Questioner) Thank you very much Sunim.
I think especially the perspective on
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what is important like I think I had
not thought about that before
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at different stages of my life.
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I have been interested in different
things like as the hobbies and
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I have at that time that thing has
more important as you said.
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If I may ask a follow up on the bug point
where you were talking about our understanding
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as you said, there are different
heights or different abilities.
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And now in this society we try to characterize
everything or enumerate everything.
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So there is this concept of bell curve in
sciences and mathematics and engineering.
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So where the curve looks, there is a maximum
number of people are in the middle
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and then there are outliers.
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So in that situation, the place where
the maximum number of people are
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is called the norm which is called normal
and it's essentially called it is the reference point.
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But as you also said that there is actually
no reference point. So either
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if you have any thoughts about whether that
norm of the bell curve is actually a reference point
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or is it a kind of a sort of a tradition
or some sort of convention.
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(Sunim) Yes, just because you're in the middle
of the norm just because you're in the middle
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of the bell curve doesn't mean that's
kind of the standard of reference point.
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So another example is
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So we have a school in kind of rural Korea
in the countryside and their 30 students
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and we map their grades.
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Said that the middle of
the bell curve is 70 percent
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and right around there,
There's a lot of people.
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Then as you go further to the right past a certain
standard deviation, you get kids getting 90 percent.
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Then if you go to the left, you get
kids going as low as 50 percent.
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Then so we take the 90 percent kids
from the school in the countryside
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then we compare them to the
students from all over the country.
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So we take the best, the 90 percents
from the countryside and we create
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a separate class of 30 of 30 students
basically the best countryside school students.
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And we see the same thing happening.
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So even among those 30 superior
students from the countryside schools,
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you have the best students with
the highest grades and
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you've got a student with the lowest grade.
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So that kid who was the number one in his
class, now is number 30 in the new class of
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high grade kids. That kid probably
feels really inferior, really feel intimidated
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and bad about himself.
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It's very hard to accept because the
expectation for that kid is that
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he's always been the number one in his class.
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However, he is the same person his achievement
his academic knowledge is the same person
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whether he's number one in his class
in a rural countryside school
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of his 30th of superior students
chosen from all over the countries.
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So that's why I say this is a matter of perception.
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In the olden days where there was
a lot of discrimination based on
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either gender or social class, your
position in society was determined
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by how you were born or
who you were born into.
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But now we have less gender
and class discrimination.
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But instead what we have done is the,
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we are constantly judging and evaluating
kids based on academic test scores.
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So kids with lower test scores are basically
facing a certain kind of emotional discrimination.
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So while we say we have done away
with a lot of discrimination,
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we are constantly kind of ranking kids
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according to what I've done and according
to their academic achievements.
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So psychologically, we are constantly
kind of putting them under stress.
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In a way through schooling, we are creating
the foundation of a new kind of hierarchy.
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Still in the past, just because depending on
your status as a prince for example,
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you are entitled to a lot of privileges.
Now through the hierarchy that based on
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your academic achievements, we individuals
are feeling themselves entitled to privileges
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that's not afforded to others. And
society actually allows those privileges.
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In a ways, we have recreated a system
that we actually got ourselves over
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a system of entitlement instead of
your status, birth status, it's based on
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this one is based on your academic
achievement that's been measured
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and quantified ever since you were little.
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That is leading to a larger and larger inequality
between the rich and poor that is creating
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a lot of the social pressures and
social resistance that we see.
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So in the past, the humanity grew
up and we slowly realized that,
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allotting privileges because of the
status of your birth was unfair.
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But having said that, in today's world,
the driving narrative is that it's okay
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through open competition that
if you have accrued the entitlements
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or privileges, then you are entitled to those and
nobody questions your right to those privileges.
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The losers in today's ultra competitive world
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believe they don't deserve certain
privileges or entitlements because
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they have lost in this competition.
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This is actually keen to slaves in the ancient
world thinking they don't deserve or
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they deserve to live like a slave
because they're born a slave.
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And we think mistake ourselves
into thinking that we have freed ourselves
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from these discriminatory systems.
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But all we've done is replace an old
paradigm of how we order the world
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with a new paradigm. We haven't actually
liberated ourselves from those paradigms.
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(Questioner) Yeah that made a lot of sense.
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Thank you so much for taking time
for giving answer in such a detailed way.
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Yeah both of that made sense and
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I just want the next person to be
able to ask their questions.
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Thank you so much for your detailed answer.