Attaining Enlightenment Through Meditation
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0:04 - 0:14<Attaining Enlightenment
Through Meditation> -
0:14 - 0:18(Questioner) Hi Sunim, thank you
for giving me a chance to ask a question. -
0:18 - 0:22I have a question about meditation
and the study of the Buddhist scriptures. -
0:22 - 0:27I learned that the Buddha attained
a peaceful mind and profound enlightenment -
0:27 - 0:29through meditation.
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0:29 - 0:33I am trying to practice meditation
for the same purpose, -
0:33 - 0:37However, as a beginner
who has yet to follow the path, -
0:37 - 0:44I have doubts about how I can reach
such a deep state of enlightenment -
0:44 - 0:46simply by not thinking.
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0:46 - 0:54Could you explain how meditation leads
to peace of mind and enlightenment? -
0:54 - 1:04(Sunim) Most of our agony arises
primarily from our thoughts. -
1:04 - 1:21So, we must free ourselves
from our preconceived notions -
1:21 - 1:30of ethics, morality, religious beliefs, and
other paradigms that shape our thoughts. -
1:30 - 1:48For example: Consider a man and a woman
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1:48 - 1:52who have feelings for each other
and become romantically involved. -
1:52 - 2:00In a typical relationship
between two ordinary individuals, -
2:00 - 2:02they can simply like each other.
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2:02 - 2:18However, if they are Buddhist or Catholic
clergy, they have been taught -
2:18 - 2:23that engaging in romantic
or sexual relationships is forbidden. -
2:23 - 2:35As a result, those
who have undergone such training, -
2:35 - 2:39while experiencing joy
in their romantic relationship, -
2:39 - 2:42also struggle with guilt.
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2:42 - 3:03That guilt, the negative feelig they get,
does not stem from the relationship itself -
3:03 - 3:10but rather from their belief
that they should not be engaging in it. -
3:10 - 3:30Much of the suffering and issues
we experience today occurs -
3:30 - 3:36due to the clash between reality,
what we truly experience, -
3:36 - 3:40and our preconceived notions
of how things should be. -
3:40 - 3:57This suffering disappears when we resolve
the contradiction in one of two ways: -
3:57 - 4:03either by letting go of our preconceptions
and accepting reality as it is, -
4:03 - 4:07or by clinging to our preconceptions
and giving up what we desire in reality. -
4:07 - 4:23However, we can never truly resolve
this problem -
4:23 - 4:28if we attempt to hold onto
our preconceptions -
4:28 - 4:31while simultaneously trying to attain
what we desire in reality, -
4:31 - 4:34because that contradiction
will inevitably persist. -
4:34 - 4:38Let's take another example.
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4:38 - 4:51If there are traditional ethics
or morals dictating that -
4:51 - 4:55men and women of certain ages should not
see each other as romantic partners, -
4:55 - 5:00then engaging in such relationships
leads to suffering. -
5:00 - 5:11Similarly, if we're taught that
divorce is unacceptable after marriage, -
5:11 - 5:18yet circumstances call for
separation or divorce, -
5:18 - 5:21this contradiction results in suffering.
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5:21 - 5:31However, In life, people may come together
and go their separate ways. -
5:31 - 5:39Coming together is not
the cause of suffering, -
5:39 - 5:42and separation or divorce is not
the cause of suffering, either. -
5:42 - 5:53Rather, it is our preconceived notions of
"what ought to be" that create suffering, -
5:53 - 5:57whether involves the beginning
of a relationship or its end. -
5:57 - 6:11If we can let go of the idea
of "what ought to be," -
6:11 - 6:20we can eliminate much of the suffering
that arises from internal conflicts. -
6:20 - 6:58For example, when we teach our daughters
that having sex before marriage is a sin, -
6:58 - 7:02and they later engage in premarital sex,
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7:02 - 7:05it causes them
significant internal suffering. -
7:05 - 7:11But we do not emphasize this as much
when teaching our sons, -
7:11 - 7:17so they may engage in premarital sex
without feeling the same level of guilt. -
7:17 - 7:22This is entirely due to the preconceptions
we instill in our children. -
7:22 - 7:35If you were to stop thinking right now,
there would be no suffering. -
7:35 - 7:43This is why the foundation of meditation
is to stop thinking. -
7:43 - 7:55What position you take, how you breathe,
none of that truly matters. -
7:55 - 8:08Many of you say you meditate,
but, in reality, you are thinking quietly. -
8:08 - 8:10That is thinking,
not meditating. -
8:10 - 8:17Thinking positive thoughts does not mean
you are meditating effectively. -
8:17 - 8:24Meditation is the state
of being free from thought. -
8:24 - 8:31If you stop thinking,
most of your suffering will disappear. -
8:31 - 8:41However, once you try it, you will realize
that your thoughts do not cease. -
8:41 - 8:53In fact, they may become amplified
twofold, threefold, or even tenfold. -
8:53 - 8:59So, while your body remains still
during meditation, -
8:59 - 9:03your mind is constantly
engaged in thinking. -
9:03 - 9:12Then, how can we stop thinking?
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9:12 - 9:19If you set an intention to stop thinking,
that intention itself becomes amplified. -
9:19 - 9:25That is why the old masters
taught us this analogy: -
9:25 - 9:32Imagine there's dust
flying all over the room. -
9:32 - 9:36The dust is barely visible to us.
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9:36 - 9:42But if there's a ray of sunlight
coming through the room, -
9:42 - 9:48we suddenly become aware of
how much dust is floating in the air. -
9:48 - 10:03We take a cloth or a duster
and start cleaning to remove the dust. -
10:03 - 10:07Yet, instead of eliminating the dust,
we only end up stirring it up even more. -
10:07 - 10:12Then, what should we do?
We must simply let it settle on its own. -
10:12 - 10:21As time passes,
most of dust will gradually settle. -
10:21 - 10:42This analogy shows that we live constantly
filled with thoughts and distractions, -
10:42 - 10:50but we are unaware of that because we lack
a single ray of light to illuminate them. -
10:50 - 11:10Thus, when you sit down to meditate and
start noticing how cluttered your mind is, -
11:10 - 11:12this is not a failure in meditation.
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11:12 - 11:16It's actually a process
of meditating properly. -
11:16 - 11:26It's just like seeing that single ray
of sunlight revealing the dust in a room. -
11:26 - 11:36It is the first realization that you are
surrounded by endless distracting thoughts. -
11:36 - 11:49Then, you may start approaching meditation
with a performance-oriented mindset, -
11:49 - 11:52striving to meditate better and faster.
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11:52 - 11:57This, in turn, creats more distractions
just as letting dust fly even more. -
11:57 - 12:01You have to just let it be.
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12:01 - 12:08But it's very hard to simply let it be
because thoughts keep arising. -
12:08 - 12:16That's why the strategy is
to focus your thoughts on one thing. -
12:16 - 12:26The easiest thing to focus your thoughts
on is your breath. -
12:26 - 12:38Basically, it is a strategy
of focusing -
12:38 - 12:43on the inhalation and exhalation
of your breath. -
12:43 - 12:51In Pali, it is called Ānāpāna.
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12:51 - 13:05Another strategy that came up
during Zen Buddhist tradition is a Koan, -
13:05 - 13:08just to focus
on one single thought. -
13:08 - 13:13Or one single question
like "Who am I?". -
13:13 - 13:18Just focus
on that single question. -
13:18 - 13:23You know,
other thoughts will constantly be there. -
13:23 - 13:27You just let them be.
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13:27 - 13:35The only thing you actually focus
on is that single question. -
13:35 - 13:43For example, say you read a book
in the middle of the forest. -
13:43 - 13:47There are birds tweeting.
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13:47 - 13:49You hear a stream.
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13:49 - 13:52And you hear cars down the road.
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13:52 - 13:56So you can't really focus.
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13:56 - 14:00If the cars were not running,
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14:00 - 14:03if the birds stopped tweeting,
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14:03 - 14:07if the stream stopped running;
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14:07 - 14:14then you could actually focus
in a quiet forest, right? -
14:14 - 14:19But you can't stop those things.
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14:19 - 14:28Just because you stop those externalities
doesn't guarantee that you can focus. -
14:28 - 14:55But if you really focus on the book
and get into the substance, -
14:55 - 14:57birds may tweet,
but you don't pay attention; -
14:57 - 15:01cars may run on the road nearby,
but you don't pay attention, -
15:01 - 15:03nor do you pay attention
to the stream beside you -
15:03 - 15:08because you are really focused;
you are in that zone of focus. -
15:08 - 15:18So, meditation is all about the absence
of thoughts, but from a strategic -
15:18 - 15:23perspective, it's all about focusing
on that one single thought. -
15:23 - 15:32Let's say you focus
on the breath in and breath out. -
15:32 - 15:39So, when the breath comes in
to know that the breath is coming in. -
15:39 - 15:47You are not thinking
about the breath coming in. -
15:47 - 16:02This is a kind of sensory experience:
the flow of the air as it actually travels -
16:02 - 16:06over your skin, through your nostrils,
as it enters your lungs. -
16:06 - 16:17And you also feel that kind of tactile
sense of the breath and leaf in your nose. -
16:17 - 16:23This is experiencing,
not thinking. -
16:23 - 16:27You are just experiencing
that breath. -
16:27 - 16:32You might think of your mother
at that time. -
16:32 - 16:42But once you actually get distracted
by the thought of your mother, -
16:42 - 16:45you start thinking,
"Oh, what about the time we went -
16:45 - 16:48on a picnic with my mom?
What about the time -
16:48 - 16:49we had an argument with her?"
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16:49 - 16:54So, you actually create narratives
around those thoughts. -
16:54 - 16:58This becomes a distraction.
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16:58 - 17:06So, you can't really stop the thought
of your mother rising. -
17:06 - 17:12But despite whatever thoughts come to you,
you keep focusing on the breath. -
17:12 - 17:18Basically, do not pay attention
or give energy to that thought. -
17:18 - 17:21And then the thoughts
kind of dissipate. -
17:21 - 17:24Then other thoughts will come.
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17:24 - 17:26You'll think about coffee.
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17:26 - 17:30But nevertheless,
you focus on the breath. -
17:30 - 17:33Then the thought of coffee dissipates.
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17:33 - 17:45So you will have countless thoughts
rise and fall, rise and fall, -
17:45 - 17:48as long as you don't pay attention
to them. -
17:48 - 18:00But once you start actually doing it,
when you think of coffee, -
18:00 - 18:03you kind of follow it
and create a story out of it; -
18:03 - 18:07"What kind of coffee do I want?
With whom do I want this coffee?". -
18:07 - 18:14At that time, you have already lost
that focus on your breath. -
18:14 - 18:20Because your attention can only focus
on one thing at a time. -
18:20 - 18:24If you focus on here,
you lose focus there. -
18:24 - 18:30And if you pay attention there,
you lose attention here. -
18:30 - 18:40Thoughts are just that;
as long as you don't pay attention -
18:40 - 18:44to them, they will just rise and fall,
rise and fall. -
18:44 - 18:57So, when we say we are distracted,
those random thoughts are -
18:57 - 19:01not distractions in themselves.
It really becomes a source of distraction -
19:01 - 19:05when you start creating stories
around those thoughts. -
19:05 - 19:27So, if you keep practicing, the time
you can sustain focus on a single breath -
19:27 - 19:31before getting distracted can increase
to 1 minute, then 5 minutes, -
19:31 - 19:33and then 10 minutes.
It will gradually increase. -
19:33 - 19:46So, the attention span
on that single breath will continue -
19:46 - 19:53to increase,
and you will experience less distraction. -
19:53 - 20:08Then you start actually gaining autonomy.
You are no longer beholden -
20:08 - 20:12to your past memories
or future hopes. -
20:12 - 20:26The reason you get angry, you get sad,
you feel this emotion and that is -
20:26 - 20:30because all these past memories come
haunting you. -
20:30 - 20:46You become fearful, anxious, and nervous
because you are thinking about the future. -
20:46 - 20:56So, if you are not captured
by thoughts of the future, -
20:56 - 20:59then all your anxiety and nervousness
will go away. -
20:59 - 21:11So that is why we teach to be awakened
in the here and now, -
21:11 - 21:13without being captured
by your past memories -
21:13 - 21:17or the future
that has not come yet. -
21:17 - 21:28So even if a thought
about Buddha comes unbidden to you -
21:28 - 21:32while meditating,
that is just another distraction. -
21:32 - 21:42So, just singular focus on that breath;
everything else is a distraction. -
21:42 - 21:56If it's a Zen Koan,
anything that falls outside the scope -
21:56 - 21:59of exploring that question is
a distraction. -
21:59 - 22:10And so, in that state, even what you read
in the scriptures, sutras, -
22:10 - 22:13or even Buddha's own teachings
are just distractions. -
22:13 - 22:22That is why there is a teaching:
if you see a Buddha, -
22:22 - 22:24if you think about the Buddha,
kill the Buddha. -
22:24 - 22:28If you encounter your teacher,
kill the teacher. -
22:28 - 22:37So, we don't really mean to
literally kill them, -
22:37 - 22:41but obviously, we are saying is
to not pay them any mind. -
22:41 - 22:44They are just distractions.
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22:44 - 22:47Sorry for the lengthy response.
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22:47 - 22:49(Sunim/Questioner Laughter)
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22:49 - 22:50(Questioner) Thanks.
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22:50 - 22:51(Audience Applause)
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Ven. Pomnyun's Answer to “Attaining Enlightenment Through Meditation”
Selection from Casual Conversation with Ven. Pomnyun Sunim(법륜스님) (Sep. 14, 2024)Question:
How can we reach enlightenment through meditation during which we are not supposed to think about anything? - Video Language:
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