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1983-0526 Buddha Puja Talk, Brighton, UK, DP

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    Today is a great day to come to Brighton,
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    because it’s the day of Buddha’s birthday.
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    Today is Buddha's birthday, Lord Buddha's birthday.
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    We all have heard about His birth
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    and that His mother dreamt of an elephant,
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    of a large white elephant before the birth of Buddha.
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    And then it was predicted
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    that a child will be born in your family
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    who will be either a great saint
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    or a very great King,
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    as in Sanskrit called ‘chakravarti' - means the one who
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    is the ruler of the whole world.
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    So the father got worried,
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    and he thought he must get the son involved into the family life,
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    into material life
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    and give Him all the pleasures of life.
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    So he built a very special place for Him,
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    a beautiful palace to live in.
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    And where he got Him married to a girl called Yashodhara,
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    was a very, very beautiful woman,
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    gave HIm all the pleasures of life,
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    everything that he could do to entice this boy away from asceticism.
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    Also you know the story of His going
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    one day on the road, how He found three types of people,
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    and how He felt that ‘Why a person should become old?'
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    ‘Why should a person suffer in life?
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    and ‘Why should people die?’.
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    So all these three things put an enquiry into Himself
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    and He started trying to understand
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    why these things happen to human beings.
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    With this the enquiry started.
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    So He reached a point where
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    He could not bear any more the comforts and the, all the attachments
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    that were entangled around him by His father.
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    He had a son whose name was Rahul;
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    and He left the son and the wife in the search of the truth.
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    Now, He started from a wrong end, I should say,
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    for the search of the truth because
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    He wanted to know, why there are miseries in the human beings.
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    And so He started from collective towards the center.
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    When we see miseries all around us,
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    many people I have seen, they say: “What about others?
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    Will everybody get realization?
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    Will everybody will have this, you see?
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    This comes from the wrong end I feel because
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    first of all we must know, are we all right?
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    Have we - are we perfect?
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    Are we full of joy?
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    Have we received the absolute knowledge?
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    If you start from this point, it’s always better.
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    Because He started from the wrong point,
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    searching it from the collective
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    to remove the miseries of the people
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    He had to go in a very round about way.
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    So He read all the books and Vedas and this,
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    He went to big pundits,
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    to all the great knowledgeable people to meet them,
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    to ask them the answer, “Why there are these three things?”
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    that is the ‘roga’, is the
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    health or miserable physical body,
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    then the death and the old age.
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    He went and asked so many people
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    And they said: “You have to die because your are born."
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    And then they said that you have to
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    become old because you are born like that
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    and you have to suffer
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    because you commit sins.
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    He was not satisfied with this answer.
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    So He went on searching and searching and searching.
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    Then He got tired, absolutely fed up.
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    Then He went to a place called Gaya, very near
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    Patna it is, I've seen the place and the tree.
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    And He sat under a banyan tree where He slept off,
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    because He got so tired of His seeking.
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    And after the sleep He got up
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    and suddenly He got His Realization.
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    And He thought the whole drama is over.
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    Now His Mother Herself was Adishakti, who gave Him the birth
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    and She died just after the birth of the child.
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    And He got His Realization.
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    Now at that time when He got His Realization
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    there was nobody to tell Him what it is,
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    that what it means Realization is.
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    Nobody to decode
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    or talk about anything that was to be understood by Him.
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    But because of His tremendous seeking
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    and such ardent desire
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    that the shuddha iccha, the Kundalini itself rose,
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    but of course the Adishakti blessed Him
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    and He got His Realization under the banyan tree.
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    Now any incarnation, which came on this Earth
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    had to 'samayachara' - according to the time,
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    the need of the time had to act firstly,
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    secondly the need of the
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    incarnation to come on this earth
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    was first created in the human beings.
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    So supposing at a time when there was too much of ritualism,
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    Brahmanism or priesthood
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    and people were trying to take everything
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    onto those artificial rituals and all that,
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    an incarnation had to come on this earth to correct those ideas.
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    Like Krishna came at a time when He said, “This is all leela",
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    the puja and everything He canceled.
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    Nothing doing, no puja nothing,
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    you just have raas, enjoy yourself.
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    It's all a joke going on, you see.
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    So He brought that concept at that time in the awareness of people
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    that the whole world is a leela,
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    is a play of God's own whims.
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    So you just enjoy it.
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    And that's how He created this wonderful festival of Holi,
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    which we had
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    in Delhi. I don’t know- anyone of you was there for the Holi? No.
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    You were there?
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    Sahaja Yogi: Two years back.
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    Shri Mataji: No, but this time you were not there.All right.
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    You might get the pictures of that. All right.
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    So in the same way when Buddha came in
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    first problem was that
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    He thought that it's better not to talk about God.
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    Because in His search everybody told Him
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    the answer was, “Oh it’s God who does it.
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    He punishes you. It’s God who gives you this old age.
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    It’s God who does it.“ But what is this God after all?
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    Why does He do it?” They said, “You better ask the God."
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    “Where is the God?”
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    So everybody put every blame on God, as usual.
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    Even that’s done today, nothing so, so new
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    and nothing unusual I should say.
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    So this must be done by God, you see.
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    If you cut your throat:
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    ‘God put my knife in my hand and He cut my throat’.
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    So you see, He thought better not talk of God.
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    Because everybody is going towards God.
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    Then the people whom He met they said,
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    “Now I have become God.” He said, “How?”
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    He said: "I am God now.” “For what? Why?”
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    Because he could mesmerize people,
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    he said: “I have become God.” Just imagine!
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    So He thought that it’s very dangerous to talk of God
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    because people take God in the hand and use it
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    for their own purpose,
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    always say, “Oh this is what the God has to do
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    and it’s God has
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    done it and I’m in connection with God and I’ll tell God.”
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    So He got a fright and He said that, “Better not talk about God.
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    Because that puts the attention of the people on ritualism,
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    artificial things, they are building temples after temples,
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    and just doing all these horrible things
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    which one should not do. Like if you go to the south you’ll find
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    in the temples they shave their heads of the ladies,
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    they shave it completely.
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    And they have to -
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    it’s all cobbled along the sides of the wall,
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    some walls of the temple.
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    And the ladies who shaved their heads
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    are just rolling along the sides, you see.
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    They have to do sometimes 1008 times, rolling - imagine,
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    and the water is poured on them.
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    God knows what is the ritual, from where it has come!
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    So the poor women go on rolling, rolling, rolling like that
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    and somebody is pouring water on them all the time,
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    buckets after buckets.
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    Her husband and her brother and all they’re doing one after another,
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    you see one is finished then another one.
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    Poor ladies rolling like that,
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    on that muddy sort of a cobbled area.
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    I mean, I was shocked when I saw this. I said: “What’s this?”
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    And then later on you see they became modern,
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    so they started selling the hair, you see, abroad,
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    so the whole thing became a big industry in Madras, you see,
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    the hair was made into this bouffant and all they call it, here,
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    and they sent it to England and other places.
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    So it’s, I mean, in the name of God ridiculous things were done,
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    ridiculous things were done!
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    So He just thought: Better not talk about God.
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    The first step is Self-Realization.
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    He was a great Sahaja Yogi I must say.
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    Because He said nothing doing, don't talk about God or anything,
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    first you get your Realization.
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    That was the first condition, establish it.
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    Unless and until you have established your Realization,
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    - nothing doing.
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    So He just started His own method of propagating Buddhi
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    Buddha's knowledge or you can Buddhism you can say as they call it.
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    Of course it became ‘ism’ later on.
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    So all that He started
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    with the idea that people should first become Buddha.
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    Buddha means realized, Buddha is ‘to know’.
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    So "Buddha" means the person who has known,
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    means the one who is a Realized soul.
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    So what He says, “Buddham Sharanam Gachhami”,
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    I bow, no I surrender – ‘sharanam’ means surrender,
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    I surrender to the Buddhas - means to all the Sahaja Yogis.
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    You are all Buddhas because you know.
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    When you know, you are the Buddha.
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    Now without going into all that nonsense
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    of renunciation and shaving your head and wearing that dress
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    and everything, you have achieved your Realization.
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    It’s a short circuit or a short path.
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    Why? Because He started from the other side.
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    But if He had started directly from Himself, you see,
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    it would have been better.
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    You see, in practical sense I'll tell you how it is.
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    Supposing you want to repair your house.
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    So you have to have instrument for that house.
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    But supposing you are worried about all the houses of the world.
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    and you start repairing, neither you'll repair other houses nor yours.
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    So first you must practice on yourself.
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    Put your attention to yourself first.
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    Is also is a method by which you avoid
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    seeing the point,
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    seeing the reality,
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    that, if you are not all right, how can you improve the whole world?
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    So when your attention goes to other things, are
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    you must know that there’s something wrong with you first of all,
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    which must be corrected.
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    And that’s why
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    it took Him so much time to go round and round and round.
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    He had to give up His wife, give up His family,
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    give up everything and get to Realization.
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    Because by giving up everything He realized
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    that it is He, who should achieve it.
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    It's a very circuitous way,
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    but you can just say: It doesn't exist anything,
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    first let me get all right - that’s Sahaja Yoga.
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    Now what happened, that became a method for people to achieve God.
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    Many people think that you must suffer like Christ to achieve God.
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    You must renounce the world then achieve God.
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    Actually renouncing the world and all that is just a myth.
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    How do you renounce the world?
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    It’s myth. What are you renouncing?
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    I mean in any case, you can’t carry this with you, can you?
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    I mean, can you even carry, I would say, even a thread?
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    Nothing! When you come you come like this, you are born
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    with closed fists. When you go, the hands are like this open.
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    Have you ever seen a dead corpse?
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    He always has his hands like this. Nothing can he take,
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    just going like this.
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    So you don't take anything from here.
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    So this renouncing, this ‘I renounce that’, ‘I renounce that"
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    'I’ll give up this’, ‘I’ll give up my wife’, ‘I’ll give up that",
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    has no meaning.
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    Because it’s a state of mind in which your
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    being becomes -
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    I don't know the English word for that
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    which doesn't stick to something, what is it called?
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    I don't know. You see, any substance that doesn't stick to anything.
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    I mean we have all kind of stick plast. Yogi: Unattached?
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    Shri Mataji: No, but that quality.
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    There is a quality of the temperament, which doesn't stick to anything.
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    Doesn't stick to anything, I mean you put it here, it will come out.
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    You can say the soap or something like that –
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    Yogi: Like mercury. Mother, like mercury, just flows.
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    Shri Mataji: Ah - like mercury.
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    But mercury also you can apply sometimes,
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    you know with heat and, but this is something beyond mercury,
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    is absolute, which doesn't stick to anything, you see.
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    You just become like that.
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    All you do, wear this, you wear that, you have this, all right.
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    You are never stuck.
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    Then name of the Goddess is ‘Nirmama’, ‘Nirmama’,
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    that for Her nothing is Her own, you see,
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    see, She doesn't stick to anything.
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    She is in everything, but She doesn't stick to anything.
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    For example now see the light here,
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    it’s not sticking to anything, it exists by itself.
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    It doesn’t stick to anything.
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    This is the nearest you can say, it doesn't stick to anything.
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    Any but thing tries to stick it gets burned, that’s a good idea.
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    So this is what it is,
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    this is called an enlightened person doesn't stick to anything.
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    And whatever tries to come very close gets burnt off.
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    So, such a person is not attached to anything.
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    But that’s not a mental thing that you can do
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    that, “Oh I am not attached to you”, you see.
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    It’s very common in this country especially, “I hate you”.
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    Then you can't hate anyone. How can you?
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    And nor can you love anyone because
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    the attachment cannot give you both the qualities.
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    You see, because you are attached to someone,
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    you say that you hate, simultaneously you are loving that person.
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    Because these are the dual qualities of attachment, see?
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    So once you have attachment you have both things.
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    One moment you hate, another moment you love,
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    another moment you hate,
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    then you love and you don't know what's the matter with yourself.
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    But the thing is the quality of the mind is such that
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    it is either getting attached mentally
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    or either getting detached mentally.
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    But actually anybody say, you love someone very much.
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    Now you don't even die together, whatever you may try.
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    You cannot die together.
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    One person has to die earlier, another has to die later.
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    So the answer to His question that He asked was,
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    “Why all these things are caused?”
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    So he said, it is because of desire.
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    Because of human desire, these are all problems are caused,
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    like the death, like the old age
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    or the sickness, are caused by desire.
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    Now see in Sahaja Yoga language how we should understand Him.
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    Is the desire, as you know, is the left side.
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    Left side gives you death.
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    When the left side is very much used
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    you get to death, ultimately when it is exhausted.
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    When the left side is out, desire,
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    you also get sickness.
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    And when the left side is used too much you get your old age.
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    Of course the right side is the one which does it,
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    but the left side is the originator.
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    If you have no desire you won't go into the right side.
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    First is the desire, the starting point is the desire.
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    He reached the point all right, but He didn't clearly say
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    what desire means: Desire means the left side.
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    When we have the pure desire, which is the Kundalini,
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    then all these things are neutralized.
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    When the Kundalini rises the pure desire, the real desire,
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    the only desire, it gives you the absolute
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    by which you don't get old,
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    you don’t die and you do not get sick.
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    Because you achieve that which is eternal, it does not die.
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    You become the Spirit.
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    When you want to die, you die.
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    When you want to be reborn, you are reborn, and
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    you have that realized temperament within you. It does not die.
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    That's what you take with you.
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    Now you take your Realization with you when you die.
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    So what He tried to say was to build up
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    that we should not have any desires.
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    Now because, you see, His passage was like that, He went from
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    one to another, giving up this desire, that desire, that desire,
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    that desire - ultimately He came to Kundalini.
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    There’s a saying, “Ya neti neti vachanair nigama avocham”
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    When you go on saying:
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    'Not this, not this, not this, not this, not this',
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    then you go to a point, when you say “Then
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    what ultimately left is the desire, which is the pure desire,
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    the desire, that is the Kundalini.
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    Say for example
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    you say, “I’ll have a house - no, no, I’ll not have a house,
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    I’ll have a car, no, no car,no,
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    I’ll not have a wife, I’ll not look at any woman.
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    I’ll have nothing to do with it.
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    I'll give up this, give up that, give up that, give up that.
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    Till you reach a point where you are at an absolute point.
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    And there you realize that the Kundalini rises.
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    But I think it is going too far.
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    Why not start from the Kundalini rising? There.
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    Is a simple thing.
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    So Sahaja Yoga is the other way round stuff,
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    is that you better start from the Kundalini.
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    and neutralize all your left side.
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    You see the point now?
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    That's why Buddha was always regarded as an atheist.
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    He was not. He was not an atheist.
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    But as a matter of policy,
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    He and Mahavira -they were contemporary -
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    they decided: Let's not have the name of God anywhere near,
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    because once you start the god business,
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    big philosophies are built and people just start claiming it.
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    I mean, they become that!
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    Actually anybody who reads Geeta becomes a sort of a Krishna,
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    Shri Krishna Himself, it’s the way he talks,
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    people - you can be shocked the way they talk I mean
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    they are Shri Krishna, giving an advice to Arjuna, you know,
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    sitting on a chariot.
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    They behave in that manner, you know their style is like that.
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    I met one fellow called Chinmayanand
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    and I was amazed you know the way he was talking, I was surprised,
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    I mean he was just behaving like Shri Krishna,
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    of course horrid looking,
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    but, he thought he was Shri Krishna himself, you see.
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    So that's what identification takes place with human beings
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    when they start talking about God or His ways and others.
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    So He said: "All right put that out,
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    just talk about Self-Realization. That's the first step."
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    And Mahavira joined hands with Him.
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    It helped that time very much,
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    to all the people who were in the name of ritualism you see,
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    they would say, “It’s very difficult, you know,
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    Hinduism is the most difficult thing."
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    You have to fast on Sunday, because of the sun,
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    Monday because of the moon,
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    Tuesday because of the Mars. Like that went on and on,
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    and when do you eat your food?
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    If you have to achieve God then you have to
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    take your bath at four o’clock and do this and do that and
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    shave your head and then you become a sanyasi,
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    and you can't eat this and you can't eat that,
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    and you can't do that - all those things ritualistic they started.
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    But He felt that supposing if you take to sanyasa,
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    so half of your desires are finished, you are a sanyasi,
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    you are doing God's work
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    and there is no need to have a family or anything,
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    so half of your desires are finished.
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    If you have a family then you want to do something for the family,
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    you have to look after your family and all that is to be done.
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    But He did not realize that He was a Realized soul, others were not.
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    You see, if a realized soul does that, it has no difference to him;
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    whether he has a family or no family
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    makes no difference to a realized soul,
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    because he is not attached.
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    But to a person who is not a realized soul,
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    supposing he’ll give up his car, he’ll give up his house,
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    go to the Himalayas.
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    There, what he’ll do?
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    He’ll have a hut and have a barbed thing around or so.
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    Then he may think of a Georgian style of a house
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    if he's an English man,
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    because according to them Georgian style is unpretentious,
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    so we can have, after all we are sanyasis!
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    That’s typical!
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    I tell you all our western mind is behaving in that way, if you see,
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    that we should be unpretentious, you see, it’s very fussy,
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    is the word they will use.
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    If you put even a little [thing]: "Oh it’s very fussy."
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    They want everything to be plain, blunt, you see?
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    But what about inside? I’s filled with what?
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    All bottled up with all kinds of rums, this, that.
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    But the outside should be absolutely blunt, you know.
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    The food should not be,
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    if possible just get it in its natural form.
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    If not, don’t have any taste in it.
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    It should be so blunt that
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    any guest who comes to your house must starve, you see.
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    All these funny ideas cropped up in that - of asceticism.
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    Then we have other people like Shamballas.
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    who are going now to Gobi desert.
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    You see, they thought that this desert is not sufficient,
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    let’s go to Gobi desert.
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    So they are going now to Gobi desert.
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    All these absurd ideas
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    came out of Buddhism, and also Jainism.
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    Jainis went to the other extreme in vegetarianism,
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    because Buddha Himself was not a vegetarian, do you know that?
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    He was not Himself a vegetarian, nor was Mahavira.
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    You will be surprised: Vegetarianism for them was a philosophy.
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    It was not a sort of a thing where you don't eat meat and all,
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    because Buddha Himself died when He went to one of His disciples
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    who was a ‘shikari’ – hunter.
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    And the hunter had killed a wild boar.
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    And he said that the wild boar has been killed just now
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    and it will take some time to cook, it’s rather half done, you see.
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    I mean, He beeing an Indian, He could not eat that half done thing
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    and He got diseased of, I think, this liver or something got
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    into problem and He died of that, you see.
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    I mean, I can't eat half done food Myself.
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    "This is half done now." Half done is a horrible stuff,
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    but we eat because it is unpretentious, you see
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    or some sort of a thing.
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    People have idea it’s not, it’s very next to the nature, you see.
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    This is what is coming. But it’s all deliberate.
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    You are attached inside.
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    Outside, if you behave like that you are not going to become that.
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    Like Hippies have an idea, if they live like primitive people,
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    then they become primitive. You cannot, your brain is modern.
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    Just by living, you see, wearing a wig like a hippy,
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    can I become primitive?
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    I cannot, My brain is modern, you see?
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    That’s what people don't understand, that we are too deliberate.
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    And all these deliberations can be only reduced
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    if your Self comes into your attention.
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    Otherwise all these are just our mental projections.
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    So all these sanyasa and all these ideas came gradually,
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    everyone who came on this Earth,
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    people have really made a mess out of them.
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    And Buddha's mess has gone to such an extent
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    that if you see that you’ll be shocked.
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    It went into many formations.
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    But I heard from My son-in-law that
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    he went and visited some of the caves
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    where the very early Buddhist lived, very early Buddhist lived.
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    In the caves, because they were not supported by kings or anything,
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    so they had a very bad time.
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    And they used to live in the caves.
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    And what My son-in-law told Me that in the caves there are writings
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    in Sanskrit, in Pali and in Indian script,
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    saying that it is the spontaneous happening
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    that can bring forth the Self-Realization.
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    He has got that photographed.
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    So it’s coming forward. You see, so they knew about it,
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    the Sahaja Yoga, they knew about it.
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    But then as every religion has gone into a mess
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    and lot of funny sort of, we can say the -
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    funny sort of expressions, also Buddhism has gone,
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    it became Mahayan, Hinayan, all sorts of things.
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    But one of them was called as Vidhitama,
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    who ran away from India, settled down in Japan
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    and he started the Zen system of religion,
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    which he kept to the spontaneous happening.
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    That one was preserved.
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    Another was the Lao Tse style, who did not talk of God
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    and of Buddha, but of Tao itself -
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    the energy or we can say about the Adishakti.
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    So these two good things came out of Him.
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    While they searched back into the history of China
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    and they found out the Adishakti
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    lived many years back there as Kuan Yin.
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    And that’s how Kuan Yin was established
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    as a Goddess for many Buddhists.
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    Now then Buddha also got
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    into another form because
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    there was a big competition between Hinduism,
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    Hindus of those days and the Buddhists.
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    So they wanted to form,
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    for ordinary people it’s very difficult to understand the philosophy
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    so they thought that we should have Buddha expressed
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    as He has been and He will be.
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    So they formed their, you see, as you see He is a Matreya
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    is going to come, the future Buddha is Bodhisatva
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    and they started making His statues and everything.
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    So they made Buddha as the God.
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    They started using Him to represent the Divine Power,
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    giving Him forms and things and like hat many things happened.
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    But Buddha Himself was so much frightened of the ritualism
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    that He said, “You should not worship anything,
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    you should not build any temples
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    so you see the loophole was found out,
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    if temples are not to be built, we’ll build stupas.
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    Now in the Stupas they put the tooth of Buddha,
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    of course that was sensible to do I must say,
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    but of course Buddha had said not to do it.
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    And they put it there, He had two disciples,
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    called as Sariputta and Moggallana.
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    They were very good disciples of His
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    and their bones were collected after they were burnt out
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    and were put in the stupa.
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    That was something definitely sensible to put them there.
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    Of course the bones and all these things should not be disturbed
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    because it’s not good, it creates a problem for the body.
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    But at least if they have put it there in the Mother Earth
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    it would have been all right. but they put it in caskets.
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    Now the first casket was made of gold,
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    the second of silver, the third of iron,
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    the fourth one of wood sort of a thing, mummified those things.
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    That was a very wrong thing to do, because
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    because if you go on keeping like that,
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    some parts of the body of these great people,
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    it can hamper their rebirth or their body
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    which they want to again incarnate, you see.
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    But hair is all right or nails are all right,
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    but you shouldn’t keep the part of dead body like that.
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    And this kind of thing gave another nonsensical ideas to
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    to horrible human beeings.
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    What they did, that they thought that if we have to keep some part
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    of the person who died like divine person,
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    why not we cut the hand of someone and like that.
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    So in Tibet and all these places, specially in Ladhak, you see,
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    they used to cut the hands of the people when they died
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    and big ritual for the dead
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    and then they started going towards the dead.
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    So they started moving towards the left side.
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    Most of the Buddhists moved to the left side,
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    which was absolutely prohibited by Buddha,
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    because He is on the right side.
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    He said, “Cut down your desires, do the karmas without the desire”.
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    This was His idea.
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    Activate your right side without the desire.
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    This was His philosophy.
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    But they - all of them are left sided.
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    They have desires, not only desires
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    but whatever they do they do it out of desire.
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    Like the worst is like the Japanese,
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    they think that you can
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    commit suicide in the name of your nation.
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    With this desire they will commit suicide.
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    To save their country they can commit suicide.
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    I mean it is absurd.
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    He said, “Whatever you have to do, do without the desire”,
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    which is a difficult thing for human beings.
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    How many there are who are doing it without desire?
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    And whatever we do, we do out of desire.
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    Even at the subtler point.
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    Even when we do puja,
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    we do with the desire that our vibrations will improve.
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    Can we think of a state where it is absolutely desireless?
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    Only one person has that, there’s no desire, desireless.
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    The whole thing is done without any desire,
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    so there is no disappointment.
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    There is no unhappiness.
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    You are going to America,
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    knowingly that is going to be a horrible experience,
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    but it’s a joke, just going to see the joke.
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    Without any hope,
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    maybe it might work out to be something tremendous,
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    but no desires.
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    You see, it’s so desireless the whole personality is,
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    that even if I have to desire for something
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    I have to ask you, "You better desire!",
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    because I have lost the sense of desire.
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    So many times I’ve said you better do it for Me.
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    Unless and until you pray to Me I can't do it.
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    That's why I asked you write to Me a letter,
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    because you see, I can't desire,
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    i really don't. I don't do anything!
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    Without doing anything it is happening. So why should I desire?
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    I really don't do anything.
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    You'll be amazed, I don't do anything, I don't desire anything,
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    nothing of the kind, it’s working I am just watching.
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    Still you are saying,
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    “Mother you aredoing it.” I'm quite surprised!
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    That is Tao.
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    If you read about Tao,
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    it is said that it doesn’t do anything.
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    But everything works out.
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    So this is what He said, which was all sahaja,
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    that you have to be desireless
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    and do everything,
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    and He is the one who controls our ego.
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    Because if you have no desire you will have no ego either.
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    Ego is only built up
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    when you have a desire to do something.
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    That is you just do it for fun, just for joy, just for doing it.
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    Then how will you build up ego? You cannot.
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    Like an artist is painting just for fun and throwing it away.
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    Creating something just for fun – that’s what God is.
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    Not with the desire to achieve something.
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    I mean the desire is so gross, can be extremely gross.
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    It can become subtler and subtler and subtler. That’s a good way.
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    But can be very, very gross also,
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    like some people can believe that, you see,
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    “I should painting, because I'll get so much money."
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    Or "I can sell it to somebody
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    who may be the worst man, but I’ll sell it because I can get more money.”
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    That’s absolutely the grossest of all, you see.
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    That you can go to the most sinful things, I mean, I don’t know,
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    there can be even worse desires than that,
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    can be very many.
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    But on this auspicious day we should not think of them
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    which are there like that, but minimum of minimum,
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    if you come, just do your puja, just for the joy of it,
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    not with any desires.
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    Just for the joy of it.
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    I mean we are doing so many things like that.
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    For example, we enjoy each other’s company.
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    Just, just think of that!
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    We all Sahaja Yogis are enjoying each other’s company,
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    what’s this for? Nothing at all. There’s no, nothing.
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    Just, you are enjoying it without any desire.
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    Just say, for enjoyment’s sake, enjoyment.
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    When that purity comes, you see in our temperament,
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    that we do everything without any desire,
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    we have got rid of all the ego.
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    The Buddha is awakened within us.
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    And that’s what is the importance of Buddha,
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    that He settled down Himself
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    in a place which is the most difficult place,
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    that is on the left side of your head, you see.
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    Sometimes I've seen it projects here up to this point, you know,
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    in some people they get such a terrible pain, you know,
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    pulling it out from there, can't imagine.
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    So this horrible point which is -
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    so funny it is, sometimes it can blow up like that, you see,
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    sometimes it can pierce through. It’s a horrible one
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    which all of you have developed quite a lot, you see,
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    and it takes it forms in different ways and methods.
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    For that we have to say, “Buddham Sharanam Gachhami”,
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    means: We surrender ourselves to Buddha.
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    Then what does He say? The second one is very good:
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    ‘Sangham Sharanam Gachhami’:
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    I surrender myself to collectivity, ‘sangham’.
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    ‘Sangha’ is the collectivity.
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    I surrender myself to collectivity. Ego goes down.
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    First of all Buddha who is sitting, who is the deity,
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    which is the enlightenment,
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    you say: “I surrender myself to Buddha.”
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    Secondly you say: “I surrender myself to collectivity.”
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    Egoistical people cannot surrender.
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    So, ‘I surrender myself to collectivity’,
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    so we say: “Sangham Sharanam Gachhami.”
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    It is to Virat we are doing.
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    What is the third one, is? "BuddhamSharanam Gachhami",
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    "Sangham Sharanam Gachhami", the third one -
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    ‘Dhammam Sharanam Gachhami’,
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    Dhammam Sharanam Gachhami. ‘Dhammam’ means
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    the religion - the balance.
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    I surrender myself to religion, which is essence of you,
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    or you can put it the other way round,
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    that, ‘Buddham Sharanam Gachhami, Dhammam Sharanam Gachhami,
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    Sangham Sharanam Gachhami’.
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    That's all. If you have achieved it then we can talk of God.
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    Not before that.
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    So these three things are to be achieved.
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    We would put it in a Sahaja Yoga way like this:
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    First of all: ‘Dhammam Sharanam Gachhami’,
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    ‘I surrender myself to my virtues’.
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    All desires can be surrendered to a virtue.
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    Is it virtuous to do like this?
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    You can, if you are brought up that way you’ll just not do it.
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    You'll have no desires to do something,
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    that is not virtuous and righteous.
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    You will just not do it.
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    So, ‘Dhammam Sharanam Gachhami’.
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    Then you should say, ‘Buddham Sharanam Gachhami’, means:
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    I surrender myself to my enlightenment.
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    This is the second state, when you are ascended.
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    Surrender myself to enlightenment.
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    Enlightenment that I've got to my Spirit.
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    Is the Spirit who is going to guide you.
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    No more my physical, mental, emotional nonsensical temptations.
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    But what? Is the Spirit?
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    And thirdly: ‘Sangham Sharanam Gachhami’, to the collectivity,
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    to the whole, to the Virat.
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    This is the way we have to work it out.
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    So ultimately he reached the same point,
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    that let me start it from myself.
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    It's from myself to others, not from others to myself.
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    Is like treating the tree from outside, not from the roots.
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    But Sahaja Yoga treats you from the roots.
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    First you get your Realization,all right,
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    then you learn how to surrender yourself to your Dharma.
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    Then you become collectively conscious.
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    Collectivity is a temperament,
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    is a sense of enjoyment that you get in the collective living.
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    Unless and until you have that you have not achieved your joy.
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    So Buddha has played a very great role in our lives
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    and He is a very great powerful force within us.
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    I’m very happy that Buddha Jayanti has fallen here in England,
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    because as we say the England is the Heart of the universe -
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    it doesn't matter if I say here, is any Arab here?
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    I don't want to displease any Arab people sitting here.
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    All right. And if it is the heart
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    whatever you do here will circulate in the whole universe.
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    So if you can conquer your ego here,
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    you can even conquer the ego of Mister Reagan and these Russians.
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    You can manage that. But first start it here.
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    It has to reverse back you see, now
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    they have to learn from you and you don’t learn from them.
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    When it will work out you’ll be amazed.
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    Ego is the only problem I always face reaching their hearts.
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    If ego is removed everything will be all right.
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    So for us the great mantra is "Buddham Sharanam Gachhami".
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    These three mantras you must say everyday I think,
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    to get rid of this horrible ego.
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    Now, any questions on Buddha you have?
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    I've made it in a short way – the whole life it is very difficult.
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    It’s receding - ego.
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    English are wise people, sound people,
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    and they must understand this, that
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    is a very, very important thing
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    that they should not loose these qualities
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    and should try to fix their enlightenment
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    in such a way that it circulates.
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    Any question?
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    Gavin told Me yesterday it is Buddha Jayanti. I was very happy,
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    because in England I've not talked of Buddha
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    but otherwise I have talked about Him elsewhere.
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    So now, that's why I wore, you see, a Buddha's shawl
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    because it is suggesting of a detached mind
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    which has no color.
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    And
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    there could be a personality which is colourless.
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    but you can have it covered with colours to make others happy.
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    So when you are a Realized Soul, whatever you do is natural.
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    Whatever you do.
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    If I am wearing this, now I am a Buddha.
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    When I take it out, I'm Adi Shakti.
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    Is not a drama, is a fact.
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    But if you are not a realized soul, before that whatever you do it’s just a drama.
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    For example, this is an artificial thing,
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    I put My hand there anything, nothing will burn.
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    But if it is real, it will definitely burn, whatever I may try.
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    It's like that.
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    So if somebody is a real person
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    whatever he does is not a drama,
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    is reality.
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    That's how they say
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    that She can take this form, She can take thav form
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    people don't understand, how can
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    one person take so forms. Can.
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    if it is Reality, it can.
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    Like the Mother Earh, She is a Reality,
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    and the sap that is coming from the Mother Earth
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    takes so many forms.
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    See Her power!
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    Flowers, this wood, different colors, fragrance
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    so many things! Is one Mother Earth, is producing all this!
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    Because She is Reality.
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    It's the Reality in Her can produce.
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    But unreal things,
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    whatever you make out of unreal things,
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    they may look real, but they are not.
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    So now, let us have the puja.
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    And for the rituals also He said,
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    because most of them were unrealized souls in those days
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    that they, whatever puja, they did was unreal, it was not real,
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    had no meaning. It was giving no effect.
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    You see, worshipping a person who is unreal
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    or any Deity who is unreal
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    or those who were not real people
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    and the Realized Souls.
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    What's the use of unrealized people worshipping Me?
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    I mean I would not allow any unrealized person to worship Me at all.
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    You see, I always tell people unless and until they are
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    perfectly sahaja yogis, you know then they are good,
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    please don't bring them for puja.
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    Is troublesome to Me. Much more than to them.
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    You see they also feel obliged as if, you see, they are obliging Me,
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    they think so by worshipping Me. I don't know.
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    But they don't know how much they are troubling Me,
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    by coming here without Realisation.
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    So the ones who haven't got Realisation are really troublesome.
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    They don't help Me.
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    So the myth some peple have that if they come to a puja
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    before Realisation they'll get Realisation, is not good.
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    You should not bring anyone who is not a Realized Soul
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    or who is not a Sahaja Yogi to a puja here.
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    It's troublesome and that person also starts doubting,this, that.
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    Is better not to do such a thing.
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    Because also such a person is half baked.
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    So no use giving Me half baked cakes,
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    and spoiling the half baked cake also permanently
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    because if you take out a half baked cake, you see,
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    it's spoilt for ever.
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    I can't eat it nor you can bake it again.
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    So what's the use of bringing somebody who is half baked?
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    All right?
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    So from next time, also this is out of compassion you do it,
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    I know you do it out of compassion,
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    but this is not wise.
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    It doesn't help Me, nor it helps others. All right?
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    So from next time also any time, you must find out a circular saying
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    that unless and until you are sure about the Realisation of a person
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    that he has got Realisation, you should not call them for the puja.
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    They are not good for Mother and they are not good for themselves.
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    Because they become, you see doubting or something, and
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    you cannot really give them Realisation after that, it's very [hard].
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    You remember your friend had the same problem
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    who was he? Nick or something...
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    All right.
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    So now we can… Gavin, you can do the Ganesha Puja.
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1983-0526 Buddha Puja Talk, Brighton, UK, DP
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