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    2013-12-19 11:30 BATTLE FOR RIO - VINT-en
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    PACIFYING RIO
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    a film by Gonzalo Arijón
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    We're a group of 5 policemen here.
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    Before,
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    it would have taken 20 of us.
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    We arrived here
    without any confrontation,
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    which would have been impossible before.
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    This was one of their bases?
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    Yes, this was used for defense
    and as a lookout point.
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    From here they could see the police
    approaching from that street there.
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    It was also the perfect spot
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    to survey the traffickers.
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    Maracanã Stadium is over there,
    on the left.
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    So they're pacifying for the World Cup?
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    Not for the World Cup,
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    nor the Olympic Games.
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    Of course they're very important
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    but it was something
    the city desperately needed.
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    The main challenge is to make sure
    the pacification is something sustainable.
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    So that one day
    we'll no longer need so many police here.
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    That's the idea...
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    They've replaced a lot of policemen.
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    Some of them were coming in
    acting like sheriffs,
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    and it didn't work.
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    Because we need to build this together
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    Citizenship is something
    you build over time.
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    However long it takes...
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    one brick at a time,
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    And we're learning to live together.
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    There was a misunderstanding
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    on our side and theirs
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    As if...
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    they didn't understand
    the way we live here,
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    and that led to problems.
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    It wasn't easy though?
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    No, it wasn't easy.
    In the beginning it wasn't.
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    They had the idea we were in cahoots
    with the bad guys
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    but we were actually cohabiting.
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    To live with something is one thing.
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    To think it's inevitable is something else
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    We never thought it was inevitable.
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    If you take me away from here
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    to Copacabana, Barra,
    any other place
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    I would go of course,
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    but I would still be
    a guy from the favela.
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    My life is here.
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    And I'm proud of it.
    It's a good place to live.
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    I wouldn't change this
    for anything.
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    If you take me away from here,
    I'd die.
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    I really like it here.
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    Before we used to pay
    25 reais for TV
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    It was illegal, of course.
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    Now the state offers us
    the same thing.
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    What did you pay 25 reais for?
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    For the same thing
    we have today.
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    Now I pay 130
    and don't get as many channels
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    But who did you pay?
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    Everybody here paid...
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    But who did you pay?
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    Some guy who worked at Sky.
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    It was illegal,
    but it was what we had.
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    But now, there's nothing left.
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    Now we have the Pacification Police
    sent by the government,
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    They sold us an illusion.
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    It's an illusion.
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    Because the UPP...
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    I can't say we preferred
    certain situations
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    but what used to be good
    is no longer the same.
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    We have peace, it's calm,
    but that's not all we need.
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    Things here couldn't be better.
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    Some days no electricity,
    other days no water.
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    The only improvement is
    that there are no more shootings.
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    Now you have to pay for light,
    for water, for everything.
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    When we didn't pay, things worked.
    Now we pay and they don't.
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    We were happy
    and we didn't know it.
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    We were happy
    and we didn't know it.
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    We thought we were unhappy
    but we were healthier than we thought.
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    Now we look fine,
    but we're actually sick.
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    The pain is invisible.
    Sometimes when you look at someone, they look fine!
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    But they're actually screwed up,
    everything is broken inside.
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    But their body looks fine,
    so you think everything's OK.
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    I wonder if one day
    my grandchildren will be happy.
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    Over 20 years
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    we lost many lives:
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    kids, workers, housewives.
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    We lost many people.
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    Thank God
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    this is going to stop.
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    It's going to be a new world.
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    Rio de Janeiro is a city
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    that has many smaller cities within it.
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    That was, and still is our problem.
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    And the UPP isn't the solution
    for everything
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    The Police must take care of the city
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    What we're doing now is
    entering these disputed areas.
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    The UPP will not end drug trafficking,
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    there are drugs in Paris, in London,
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    everywhere in the world.
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    What we're giving back to our citizens
    is the right to come and go.
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    And allowing public and private services
    to reach these areas.
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    It's not just a fight against drugs.
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    This term "pacification"...
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    It was very difficult to get people
    to accept the term pacification.
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    Because for politicians,
    pacification meant war.
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    It meant that all was lost.
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    It was a very strong word for politicians,
    who only want good news.
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    I said, Governor,
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    it has to be pacification,
    because in these areas,
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    in these favelas, it's war.
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    It's not war in the whole city of Rio
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    but in these areas it's war.
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    So every time the traffickers
    have to be warned?
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    Always.
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    Over that way
    they don't allow filming.
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    There were these guys sitting there
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    and this girl came over
    with her camera,
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    and a guy suddenly jumped her.
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    The guy in white is there
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    to warn them that we're coming.
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    So you don't need to stop filming.
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    This is what we do - we mediate.
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    He keeps a lookout.
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    It's always like this.
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    It's the only way
    to get in and out in one piece.
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    We need to talk to them
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    because our favela isn't pacified yet.
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    Vigário Geral isn't pacified,
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    so we need permission from the traffickers.
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    Unfortunately they still make the rules.
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    This is where I live
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    It's still a work in progress.
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    I bought the house a while ago.
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    Here's my son,
    Paulo Henrique.
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    Where's your sister?
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    Let's go up to the roof terrace.
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    From here you can see
    the entire community.
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    There you can see the "Gaza Strip"
    that divides the favela in two,
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    where many innocent people died.
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    That was what started the war...
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    the death of innocent people
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    and the death of a drug lord's daughter.
    This guy got so mad
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    that he swore he would invade
    to avenge his daughter's death
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    and that's what he did,
    he invaded Vigário Geral.
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    And for the last 6 years
    Terceiro Comando has ruled the favela.
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    Those fireworks are a warning
    that the police are entering the favela.
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    The police are coming into the favela.
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    The traffickers use them
    to warn everyone.
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    All the drug dealers.
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    Do you think this favela
    will be pacified one day?
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    For now there's been no talk of it.
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    We're all waiting.
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    but it's difficult to say anything.
    We don't know.
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    Can we go now?
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    This house here
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    is now called the "House of Peace".
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    A whole family died here.
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    All murdered
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    by the police, for no reason.
    They were people with jobs.
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    The strange thing is that
    on the day of the massacre
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    all the people killed had regular jobs.
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    There wasn't a single gangster.
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    Let's be very careful.
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    Be careful all of you.
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    Dirceu, Odilon.
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    Everybody will be on the street.
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    Take Liliane and Sabrina with you...
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    And I'll be able to tell you later
    where the camera can go and film.
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    Ok? So we don't bother them
    and vice versa.
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    It's difficult...
    it's hard to talk about it.
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    But to me it's not so difficult
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    because I'm used to it.
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    No one wants
    to get used to things like this
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    but that's what happens
    to all of us.
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    Of course, sometimes we're frightened,
    sometimes things happen,
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    but this is our everyday reality
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    For me, it's become kind of normal.
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    We've been living in conflict
    for decades. Wars, shootings, bombings, killings.
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    Playing music here is like an antidote.
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    When you bring out these instruments,
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    you release a kind of spirit.
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    Like Abreu says, a ray of light shines out.
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    It's something that heals.
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    You'll have to wrap it up soon.
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    Seen that guy watching you?
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    No!
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    My son!
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    My son!
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    Who did this?
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    Who?
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    I won't be another Edna.
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    I won't be the mother with a dead child
    at the school door.
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    I won't be another Rosa,
    whose son was dragged away from her.
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    I won't be another Marilene,
    who couldn't even bury her daughter.
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    Wake up my son, you're scaring mama!
    Wake up!
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    Wake up, you son-of-a-bitch!
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    For me the most important thing
    is to be able to keep my students alive.
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    If I only come to teach once a week,
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    and they all stay alive for many years,
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    I'd be very happy.
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    Mission accomplished!
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    Enough with all the lovelessness,
    all the death.
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    These kids die too early.
    At 14, 13… 17
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    How could a city like Rio de Janeiro
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    reach such levels of criminality
    and violence?
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    For more than 100 years,
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    Rio was the capital of Brazil.
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    Everybody came to Rio
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    looking to improve their lives,
    because it was where things happened.
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    People arrived and were allowed
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    to settle however they liked.
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    At the end of the 70s,
    drug trafficking arrived,
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    Lots of drugs,
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    which made lots of money.
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    With so much money involved,
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    the gangs started to fight.
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    3 gangs emerged
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    and these 3 gangs spread
    across the entire city,
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    setting up business,
    looking for territories.
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    Land within Rio is very scarce
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    so these people headed for the hills,
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    and these hills are inside the city,
    not on its periphery.
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    People started to occupy these hills
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    because that was
    where the state was absent.
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    The state took care of people down here
    and gave up the hills.
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    So we began
    to occupy these areas
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    with a massive police presence.
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    I think that was the difference.
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    The police used to come in,
    kill, die, become corrupt, and leave.
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    They often took prisoners,
    killed people,
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    officers died,
    they confiscated weapons,
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    but it wasn't enough,
    because the most important thing
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    was to take the territory
    away from those people.
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    It would all happen in the morning,
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    and by the evening,
    others had already taken their place
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    and found new weapons.
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    No one had even taken their territory.
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    So, for 30 years or more,
    Rio entered a vicious circle.
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    What we did was to reverse the paradigm:
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    we're taking control of the territory,
    destroying the walls imposed by violence.
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    Do you have authorization to film?
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    Hold on, I'll check
    if you have authorization.
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    Wait there a minute.
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    Why do we need authorization?
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    You're just filming me!
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    That's the result of pacification:
    social control.
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    Control over the lives
    of the people of the favelas.
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    You never see this down there,
    they never check anyone.
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    But here, residents can be stopped
    at any time.
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    And when you're stopped,
    you're always assumed to be a suspect.
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    Why are residents suspects?
    Why are they stopped?
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    Because they're black or white?
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    Because they live in the favela,
    or dress the wrong way?
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    Down there it's different.
    They never check anyone.
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    It always happens up here.
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    So pacification has its pros and cons.
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    But it's not their fault.
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    They're just doing their job.
    They're workers.
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    Workers just like us.
    He's working here, just like me.
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    But sadly the laws are created on high
    by people who don't listen.
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    They only come here looking for votes.
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    - OK. So I can authorize?
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    Kids today can stay on the streets later.
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    Before, they couldn't.
    They lived indoors.
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    Their kids couldn't come and go.
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    Today that's what the UPP is doing.
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    The right to come and go
    the freedom for them to work,
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    to go home, to play in peace.
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    I agree, but not with everything you say.
    I'm sorry.
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    Because you have to
    listen to the community.
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    If you listen to the community
    you will understand what's better for us
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    - No... of course...
    - You can't say: "ah, this is better".
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    I can't even say myself
    what's better for the community, for you.
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    The community wants peace.
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    We're fighting for this peace.
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    Our biggest fear is that come 2016,
    the Pacification Police will leave.
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    That's our fear.
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    Everywhere, people are saying:
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    It will be over after the Olympic Games...
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    Are you really worrying about
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    the police coming in
    and leaving after 6 months?
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    We've been here for almost 3 years.
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    You're working...
    You've seen lots of changes
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    Yes, many things have happened...
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    And we've been here for 3 years.
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    Our baby will be called
    Loren or Clara,
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    but as the woman always
    has the last word, she'll be Loren!
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    Great!
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    I... I only participated...
    but I don't get to choose anything!
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    She's the boss!
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    At home, and on the street.
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    My family has always been quite troubled.
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    But I can say I'm the opposite
    of what people expect.
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    When you're born in the favela
    you're expected to become a gangster.
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    My cousin was the king of this hill.
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    He was the boss here for 20 years.
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    He was called the "Black Marquis".
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    Back then, Comando Vermelho
    was the gang in charge here.
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    Comando Vermelho was
    at the height of its powers then.
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    So my cousin was king of this hill.
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    He practically brought me up.
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    As a kid, I was tempted, you know?
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    It's common to feel tempted.
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    You see the drug lord
    with lots of women.
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    I saw my cousin with a different girl
    almost every day!
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    You see the drug lord
    with a nice motorbike.
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    Everybody respects him.
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    When he goes to a party
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    everybody respects him.
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    So of course you're tempted
    to get into it.
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    You're tempted, but...
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    there's always a way
    to show another side.
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    I've lived here for 30 years.
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    I've seen friends die.
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    I've seen friends get out of trafficking.
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    I've seen everything you can imagine
    happening in a favela.
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    And this phase we're living through now
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    is changing the face of the favela.
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    One comes and the other goes...
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    That's the routine in Babilônia.
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    Over there, my friend...
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    We won't create Paradise overnight,
    of course.
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    but we're doing what is necessary
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    to give everyone a good quality of life.
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    The service road will be fundamental.
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    Because this road will mean
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    the trucks will be able
    to collect waste closer to the houses,
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    sick people will get to hospital quicker.
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    Apartment blocks will be built
    in three places in the community
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    to offer alternative accommodation
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    to those who have to move,
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    either because they live
    in dangerous housing,
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    or because of the need to build
    the road or other work
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    it's sometimes necessary
    to move people.
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    This is a very special time for Rio.
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    The whole city is getting ready
    for big international events
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    that will focus the world's attention
    on our daily lives.
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    We're going to improve all the houses
    that are not in risk areas
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    or in the way of construction.
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    The renovation is not about beautifying
    even though everything will be nicer.
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    We'll address what directly affects
    everybody's health and quality of life,
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    within each house, or in terms of the neighborhood.
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    Respecting the environment...
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    I don't live in a risk area
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    but I have a house and 2 sons
    who can't sleep with me.
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    They miss it.
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    But I can't sleep with them
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    because my house is made of tiles and plaster
    and is falling down.
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    Is this an improvement?
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    Will you remove and build from scratch
    or just improve what's already there?
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    Valdir! Valdir!
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    My question is whether it's possible...
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    Let's listen to Valdir please
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    ... to improve the height of the steps.
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    The basement is causing lots of problems.
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    When it rains, because it's built on stone,
    water comes in and it gets very mouldy
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    How can we resolve this problem?
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    You were going to...
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    The priority in our fight is to remain here.
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    I don't want improvements
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    if the residents can't enjoy them.
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    Can't benefit from the improvements.
    We understand
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    that the community is going through
    a gentrification process.
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    The area is being improved.
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    And it's also becoming more expensive.
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    So what's happening?
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    Why are we fighting today?
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    We're fighting so that in the future
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    not only the current residents
    but also their kids can stay here.
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    The residents must understand
    that they have to stand together.
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    Improvements, yes!
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    Is it a good thing
    to improve houses in the favela?
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    Yes, very good! But let's start
    with those who really need it,
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    who are having a hard time.
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    We are very vigilant,
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    we are reaching out
    to other communities
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    and know what problems are occurring.
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    The minister of lodging just spoke
    about this but he didn't talk about
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    the abuses and arbitrary decisions
    that have occurred in Providência.
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    If the residents here knew what was happening there,
    they'd be flabbergasted
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    The first favela was built
    by freed black slaves,
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    who were literally used as canon fodder.
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    Once they were freed, they had no work,
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    because there was no agricultural reform
    when slavery ended in Brazil.
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    These black people
    were abandoned to their fate.
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    If they joined the army,
    they'd been promised houses
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    when they returned.
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    While they waited,
    they set up camp and built houses,
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    and now their great-grandchildren
    are still there...
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    How long have you lived here, Marcia?
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    Here, in this house,
    a little over 20 years.
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    but I've lived in this community
    for 52 years.
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    My whole life.
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    Today, I see all this, my whole history,
    going down the drain.
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    Because of a lack of information,
    a lack of dialogue.
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    If there had been dialogue,
    things could have turned out well,
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    but there was no dialogue.
    It came by surprise.
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    They want to destroy everything here?
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    Yes. They want to expropriate us.
    Tear this whole building down.
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    But they're not offering
    anything in exchange.
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    All we had was an insulting offer:
    a monthly rent subsidy of 400 reais.
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    For how long?
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    Only God knows how long!
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    And over there,
    up where the trees are,
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    they're going to build
    a funicular railway.
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    And on this square
    that has already been demolished,
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    they're going to build the cable car.
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    Now, if you ask me
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    if the cable car
    will benefit the community,
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    I don't think it will.
    It will only benefit tourism.
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    This was the first favela in Latin America,
    114 years old.
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    A historic favela.
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    Our history is being thrown away.
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    They have no respect for our history.
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    Many millions have been spent on this.
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    Which would have been very useful
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    for a family clinic,
    or a secondary school,
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    the family doctor,
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    but none of that...
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    How much are the 2016 Olympics
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    changing people's lives?
    Especially poor people's lives?
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    It would have been better
    to leave it as it was.
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    It would have been better
    to leave it as it was.
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    Because when you talk
    about pacification
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    you think:
    everything will be under control.
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    Everything will be controlled.
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    Look here. It's all finished.
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    Why did they pacify?
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    To throw us out now?
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    Hi, Dona Marcia, shall we go?
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    Let's go, Eron!
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    Yeah! Grand Canyon.
    I like that!
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    This is the Grand Canyon here...
    and there's the Mississippi river!
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    It's getting worse and worse.
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    As a friend of mine says:
    "I'd like to be poor for a day,
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    because being poor every day is too hard!"
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    S-M-H: the acronym for
    Rio's Housing Authority,
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    and the number refers
    to the demolition of the house.
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    All the houses marked
    will be removed, destroyed.
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    The aim is to open up
    the Cruzeiro here
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    and leave a good view of the church.
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    Hi Paulão, how's it going?
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    Cool.
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    Look at this view!
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    This is what
    everybody's interested in.
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    Who could say this isn't beautiful?
    Look at that!
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    It's beautiful.
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    Rio Carnival,
    the heart of the Rio Carnival.
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    That's the beating heart of our carnival.
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    Look at this view!
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    So the elite are interested in the favelas
    close to the heart of the city.
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    Are you kidding?
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    I told you to go home.
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    The overall atmosphere changed a bit
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    with the feeling
    of being able to move freely.
  • 39:24 - 39:28
    It also changed
    when the city entered the favela.
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    Favelas became tourist destinations.
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    But above all,
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    there was more interest in these areas
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    which are some of the nicest in the city...
  • 39:43 - 39:45
    With the nicest views...
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    The favelas could become beautiful places
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    like lovely European medieval cities,
    in their own style.
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    Not much architectural work
    would be needed
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    to turn the favelas
    into excellent places.
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    You must, of course,
    provide basic services.
  • 40:04 - 40:06
    There are many deficiencies.
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    But there's a huge risk that
    the favela population could be expelled
  • 40:12 - 40:14
    by market forces.
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    Who makes the kites?
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    Someone here in the community?
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    But with the works,
    they're going to...
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    They're gonna tear it down.
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    They're gonna tear it down in August.
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    In August.
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    - Do you think it's a good thing?
    - No.
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    So you'll remain without a shop?
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    Time's up for the kites...
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    But they'll be back!
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    She's closing the shop.
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    - Bye.
    - Thanks.
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    They are the first
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    to enter the favela.
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    Not a single gunshot.
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    This first police wave is very quiet.
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    A battalion of press,
    including foreign journalists...
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    We are here today to inaugurate
    two new Pacification Police Units:
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    UPP Manguinhos and UPP Jacarezinho.
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    This is undoubtedly an opportunity
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    for these neighborhoods to be reborn.
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    I want to hear your voices,
  • 43:14 - 43:17
    I want to know what you want,
  • 43:17 - 43:20
    because now you are free to speak.
  • 43:20 - 43:24
    Before, you needed permission
    from someone,
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    even to speak,
  • 43:27 - 43:29
    or to obey orders,
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    but now you are free.
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    There are several organizations here to show
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    that the UPP is much more
    than just a police presence.
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    I wish the policemen good luck,
  • 43:42 - 43:44
    and happiness to the residents.
  • 43:44 - 43:46
    I also want to tell the policemen
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    that every day, with their actions,
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    they are helping to increase
    the legitimacy of the Military Police.
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    Congratulations to everybody.
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    I don't think... that things...
    will become wonderful overnight.
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    The inequalities will remain.
  • 44:40 - 44:45
    That's how capitalism is,
    we know that.
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    But the huge inequalities,
  • 44:48 - 44:52
    those vast social differences
  • 44:53 - 44:57
    within such a small area,
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    were always a potential source of conflict.
  • 45:09 - 45:12
    A picture-postcard view
    of Rio de Janeiro.
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    So here, next to picture-postcard Rio,
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    we see the extreme poverty
    of all these favelas.
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    You can see Fogueteiro,
    Falé, Mineira, Catumbí.
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    All favelas that surround Santa Teresa and Prazeres.
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    That were pacified...
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    That were pacified 2 years ago,
    all these favelas.
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    And in the meantime, with this policy
    of pacification, of peaceful occupation,
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    not direct confrontation
    with drug trafficking,
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    not reproducing the prohibitionist policy
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    that came from abroad,
    from the USA,
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    that was so readily adopted here,
    and led to many deaths,
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    today, you have an alternative.
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    Another way of doing things,
    as we're doing here.
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    You can see the death toll fall.
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    Just by being able to save
    all these lives
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    the whole project, all the investment
    becomes worth it.
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    What's going on?
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    This is crazy!
    Look at this!
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    She looks like a girl from a telenovela!
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    I don't start until 9 am
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    and I always arrive early!
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    That's why
    I'm doing my hair.
  • 48:01 - 48:02
    So you think you're at the salon now!
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    but since I've come straight from jail,
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    they don't let us
    use these things, you know?
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    So it's the only way
    I can make myself pretty.
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    Pretty? You?
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    How many people were
    under your command?
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    Lots!
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    Because I ran the dens where the drugs were sold,
    but I was also leader of the gang.
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    For all of Rio?
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    For all of Rio.
    The whole of Comando Vermelho.
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    For how long?
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    More than 20 years.
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    And what was the idea?
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    For us, it was very important
    to help the community.
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    Help the children and their families.
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    Because society doesn't help us.
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    Back then, we were the only ones
  • 49:14 - 49:16
    who were helping our community.
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    We traffickers, gangsters,
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    we were the ones doing good.
  • 49:21 - 49:25
    So there was an ideology, of course.
    In those days...
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    Now the youth have changed for the worse,
  • 49:28 - 49:30
    they don't have the brains.
  • 49:30 - 49:32
    One might want to be in charge,
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    but the reality is
  • 49:35 - 49:38
    people with the ability should lead,
    not those who want to lead.
  • 49:39 - 49:41
    That's where things get tricky,
  • 49:41 - 49:43
    they want to be leaders
    but don't know how,
  • 49:43 - 49:44
  • 49:44 - 49:46
    They're making problems for themselves
    and killing each other,
  • 49:46 - 49:49
    exterminating each other...
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    and so it goes on!
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    Because you end up
    paying for everything.
  • 49:56 - 49:58
    You pay for everything.
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    How long will you be in jail?
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    Until 2014.
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    Until 2014 I have this burden.
  • 50:10 - 50:11
    And then what?
  • 50:12 - 50:15
    I'll go back to my family.
  • 50:17 - 50:19
    And where's that?
  • 50:20 - 50:27
    I prefer not to say...
    'cause you know... it could be dangerous.
  • 50:27 - 50:31
    What are you planning to do after 2014?
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    Go back to high school
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    and maybe one day go to fashion school.
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    That's my dream.
  • 50:40 - 50:42
    To go to fashion school,
    I'd love that.
  • 50:43 - 50:46
    Has that always been your dream?
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    No, I also thought about
    studying theology.
  • 50:49 - 50:52
    Because I like religions, cultures...
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    How long were you in this war?
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    If you could retire from crime,
    I would already be retired.
  • 51:02 - 51:04
    I started at 11 and now I'm 44...
  • 51:04 - 51:09
    so 33 years in this life of crime.
  • 51:09 - 51:11
    Sometimes, I was...
  • 51:11 - 51:13
    I was quite bad in some ways.
    I wasn't always good.
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    There was always a point
    when I played tough.
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    Rose, sometimes, she was tough.
  • 51:20 - 51:23
    But mostly she had the sensitivity
    to solve problems.
  • 51:23 - 51:24
    She preferred dialogue.
  • 51:24 - 51:27
    She'd see me upset and knew
    I was going to ask something.
  • 51:27 - 51:29
    She'd ask: "What happened?"
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    I'd say "I'm gonna shoot this guy."
  • 51:33 - 51:36
    And sometimes she'd ask: "Are you sure?"
  • 51:36 - 51:38
    It's too much, I can't stand this anymore.
  • 51:38 - 51:43
    I'd go and get my gun,
  • 51:43 - 51:46
    but then I'd see the guy running away!
    Shit!
  • 51:46 - 51:48
    She'd start laughing at me...
  • 51:48 - 51:51
    And I'd be like: "Fuck you,
    you warned the guy!"
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    And the guy ran away.
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    Because she was raised with them.
  • 51:56 - 51:57
    So when I told her
    I was going to get my gun
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    She would tell them to run away.
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    He's gonna shoot you!
  • 52:03 - 52:06
    She kept laughing...
  • 52:06 - 52:08
    But I wasn't too upset because...
  • 52:08 - 52:12
    I don't regret any of this
    because they were lives I saved.
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    It was good.
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    We went through many things together,
    Schneider and I.
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    We messed around a lot.
  • 52:22 - 52:26
    But now that we stop and think about it,
  • 52:26 - 52:29
    it wasn't leading anywhere, you know?
  • 52:29 - 52:32
    Our life today
  • 52:32 - 52:34
    is very pleasant.
  • 52:34 - 52:39
    And to be able to help others walk away from crime...
  • 52:39 - 52:42
    Cause we're helping them, you know?
  • 52:42 - 52:44
    Because it's not worth it.
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    What was your nickname?
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    Cat Face.
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    The famous Cat Face!
  • 52:55 - 52:59
    Then when you'd heard it too much,
    you'd stop and change nickname.
  • 53:00 - 53:01
    What for example?
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    First it was Lulu,
    then Cat Face,
  • 53:05 - 53:07
    and recently it was Nelson Mandela.
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    Everything's got a nickname!
  • 53:12 - 53:16
    It's always changing.
  • 53:17 - 53:19
    And now what is it?
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    Now it's Luis Carlos, or just Carlos!
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    Tell me about a typical day,
    when you were controlling the trafficking.
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    It was very tough.
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    Really tough, very unfair.
  • 54:13 - 54:15
    You'd sleep in different places?
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    Always in a different place,
    never sleep in the same place.
  • 54:18 - 54:22
    You can't trust your friends
    and you don't have friends.
  • 54:22 - 54:26
    You can't trust anyone. You must always...
  • 54:26 - 54:29
    Sleep there today,
    here tomorrow.
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    People think you're there
    but you're somewhere else.
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    It's always like this.
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    You're never with your family.
  • 54:39 - 54:42
    You never sleep with your family.
    You can't.
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    Or you'll get caught and it's over.
  • 54:48 - 54:52
    I spent many Christmases
    loaded with money, girls, everything,
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    but none of them
    were like last Christmas,
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    when I could be with my kids.
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    Having Christmas Eve with them.
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    Something we could
    never do together.
  • 55:04 - 55:07
    Never! We never could!
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    I had to hide in my car
    to get into my own house.
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    These guys, in their own worlds,
    were CEOs of crime, man.
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    So if you use the same methodology
    that these guys used for bad things...
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    because the good and the bad
    are like that... very close!
  • 55:52 - 55:55
    So you say: "Wait, what's your strategy
    for selling drugs?"
  • 55:55 - 55:59
    So you say: "Wait, what's your strategy
    for selling drugs?"
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    We're gonna use the same strategy!
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    To get the guy out of drugs.
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    "What's the strategy for getting
    a young boy into a gang?"
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    Let's use the same strategy
    to get him out of crime.
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    And what's the strategy?
    It's a matter of consumption,
  • 56:16 - 56:20
    material goods, self-esteem.
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    Because it's very often trivial things
    that draw these guys into crime.
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    So we use the same strategies,
    not for bad, but for good.
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    27 June 2012,
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    it's 10.57 am.
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    Today is Wednesday.
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    A few months ago,
    my friend Pastor Rogério
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    started visiting
  • 57:00 - 57:02
    the most dangerous part of Rio de Janeiro,
  • 57:04 - 57:09
    home to one of the big-time traffickers,
  • 57:10 - 57:14
    Christiano Guedes, better known as Puma,
  • 57:15 - 57:19
    the leader of the ADA faction,
    Amigo dos Amigos.
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    He's already given up his drug dens.
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    And now we're going to pick him up
    from his house.
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    xxen It's your choice.
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    xxen I'm looking up to you.
  • 57:42 - 57:43
    xxen That's it.
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    xxen I see some friends I know...
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    - Let's go now! People are coming!
    - Let's go!
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    So I think it was a big change
    in behavior, a historic day.
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    Very, very important.
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    I had to do it
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    as an example for others.
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    So thanks to me, many more people,
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    without the need for aggression,
    will choose love.
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    Today I'm here in the name of love
  • 58:32 - 58:35
    Nothing else.
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    I'm surrendering to love.
  • 58:38 - 58:42
    All this for the love of my family,
    my kids, and myself.
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    One day there was an operation in the favela.
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    I was hiding,
    there were lots of police around,
  • 58:59 - 59:03
    and I was watching my daughter
    going to school with someone else.
  • 59:04 - 59:06
    I wanted to talk to her but I was hiding.
  • 59:07 - 59:09
    Looking at her from the window.
  • 59:09 - 59:11
    With this feeling...
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    because my kids are everything to me.
  • 59:14 - 59:17
    For me, that's the Darth Vader effect,
  • 59:18 - 59:21
    anyone can be the worst mass murderer
    in the world, but will still have
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    a spark of goodness
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    and you need to invest in that spark.
  • 59:27 - 59:30
    If you can get to that spark,
    it will spread
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    It's a metastasis of good.
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    That's how we do it!
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    We're looking for what's best for us.
  • 59:51 - 59:54
    We stop everything,
    we don't want to know anything.
  • 59:54 - 59:56
    We're looking for the best.
  • 59:56 - 59:59
    It doesn't matter what people will say
  • 59:59 - 60:03
    The important thing is what you want
    for your happiness and your family.
  • 60:03 - 60:05
    I know you're going to be happy,
    that's cool.
  • 60:07 - 60:11
    Who would have said that,
    with my own two legs,
  • 60:11 - 60:14
    I would walk inside a police precinct.
  • 60:15 - 60:18
    Many people here in the community
  • 60:18 - 60:21
    don't believe it,
    this transformation of mine.
  • 60:21 - 60:25
    They come to see me, hug me,
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    say how happy they are for me.
  • 60:28 - 60:30
    I can go where I want to,
  • 60:30 - 60:33
    I can go to the restaurant... to the beach!
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    I can go to Maracanã Stadium
    with my sons.
  • 60:36 - 60:38
    You've discovered the city?
  • 60:38 - 60:40
    I've discovered life!
  • 60:40 - 60:43
    Because I was vegetating. Now I'm alive!
  • 60:44 - 60:46
    Now my gang is AfroReggae.
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    We were enemies.
  • 61:15 - 61:18
    We were shooting at policemen
    like Dantas,
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    when he was
    on the top of the hill,
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    at the Alemão favela.
  • 61:23 - 61:27
    I had my worst fights
    here in this community.
  • 61:28 - 61:31
    This only happens
    at AfroReggae:
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    two years ago, I would have needed
    an armored car to come here.
  • 61:38 - 61:42
    As soon as we entered the favela
    we were under fire.
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    Our only interaction was with guns.
  • 61:47 - 61:53
    You shoot at me and I shoot at you.
  • 61:54 - 61:56
    Now we have this window
    thanks to the Pacification Police,
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    this experiment,
    which has to work.
  • 62:01 - 62:03
    The residents
    are the bosses of the favela.
  • 62:04 - 62:07
    Traffickers can't be
    the bosses of a community.
  • 62:07 - 62:09
    A trafficker can only
    be the boss of a drug den.
  • 62:11 - 62:15
    Why do favela populations ask for the UPP?
  • 62:15 - 62:20
    Because many people today
    don't respect the community.
  • 62:21 - 62:24
    That's why the residents
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    ask for the UPP.
  • 62:26 - 62:29
    I fully agree with the UPP project
  • 62:29 - 62:33
    but this should have happened
    25 or 30 years ago.
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    There was a lack of political will.
  • 62:37 - 62:39
    We've had a Brazilian army,
    we've had the police
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    for 200 years, and they didn't do it.
  • 62:42 - 62:44
    I'm totally in favor,
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    because in the 90s, I lived through
    an invasion of the Military Police
  • 62:48 - 62:50
    that left 300 people dead,
  • 62:50 - 62:51
    the Varejo massacre.
  • 62:56 - 63:01
    Good afternoon. I'm the president
    of the Grota residents' association
  • 63:01 - 63:03
    I'd like to ask Captain Robson a question.
  • 63:03 - 63:05
    - Colonel!
    - Excuse me, Colonel.
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    A few things have happened here in Alemão
  • 63:09 - 63:12
    that I see as police prejudice
    against favela residents.
  • 63:13 - 63:17
    I was standing outside, by the bank,
    a chubby white guy,
  • 63:18 - 63:20
    and there were 4 black guys.
  • 63:21 - 63:26
    The blacks guys were checked,
    but not me and another white guy.
  • 63:26 - 63:28
    I see this as prejudice.
  • 63:28 - 63:31
    It's not police prejudice though,
    it comes from our society.
  • 63:32 - 63:34
    It's an inherent flaw...
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    in our society.
  • 63:36 - 63:38
    We will overcome this.
  • 63:38 - 63:42
    The project can't achieve
    such a level of infallibility,
  • 63:43 - 63:44
    on the contrary,
  • 63:44 - 63:46
    that's why I'm saying we must improve.
  • 63:46 - 63:48
    And to improve we must listen. Ok?
  • 63:49 - 63:52
    I never thought I'd say one day
  • 63:52 - 63:56
    that the inspiration for an AfroReggae project
    was a Colonel in the Military Police!
  • 63:56 - 63:58
    Times are really changing!
  • 64:49 - 64:50
    So you started from this?
  • 64:50 - 64:51
    From this photo?
  • 64:51 - 64:55
    And then, with tracing paper...
  • 64:55 - 64:57
    on top so that I can see
  • 64:57 - 64:59
    if the streets exist or not.
  • 65:00 - 65:02
    I put in the names of the streets.
  • 65:02 - 65:04
    - And these are the names they're giving you?
    - That's right.
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    My friend, this is a revolution.
  • 65:09 - 65:11
    Only where the Pacification Police
    are working.
  • 65:11 - 65:12
    Do you realize what this means?
  • 65:12 - 65:14
    You're putting history on paper.
  • 65:14 - 65:16
    Shit, this is going to
    change things completely.
  • 65:16 - 65:19
    You're telling the story of the city,
  • 65:20 - 65:21
    the story of the favelas.
  • 65:22 - 65:25
    Something the authorities
    never managed to do.
  • 65:26 - 65:28
    To be able to tell a relative...
    That's my address!
  • 65:28 - 65:30
    Shit. It changes everything!
  • 65:30 - 65:32
    The sense of dignity is immeasurable.
  • 65:32 - 65:34
    Before it was "Where do you live?"
    I live there, in Providência.
  • 65:34 - 65:37
    But how do I find your house?
    Ask when you get there!
  • 65:37 - 65:39
    - Talk to Mrs Such and Such.
    - Mrs What's her Name...
  • 65:39 - 65:41
    Now I have an address.
  • 65:41 - 65:42
    You can find my house.
  • 65:43 - 65:45
    In this sequence of steps
  • 65:45 - 65:47
    that starts with pacification,
  • 65:48 - 65:49
    the results in terms of
  • 65:49 - 65:51
    economic and social policy
  • 65:51 - 65:53
    make this integration possible,
  • 65:53 - 65:55
    but they are faced
    with a major challenge.
  • 65:55 - 65:56
    It's not just a challenge
  • 65:56 - 65:58
    of urban and social integration,
  • 65:59 - 66:00
    the major challenge is to recognize
  • 66:00 - 66:02
    the value and the power
  • 66:02 - 66:03
    of this city's diversity.
  • 66:03 - 66:06
    The value and the power
    of the city's diversity
  • 66:06 - 66:08
    will fight against prejudice.
  • 66:08 - 66:10
    I think that's what we have with the Social UPP.
  • 66:10 - 66:13
    The hope of reconfiguring the fabric of society.
  • 66:13 - 66:14
    And we have a struggle.
  • 66:14 - 66:16
    A struggle over the nature
  • 66:16 - 66:19
    of the new organization
    in cities around the world.
  • 66:19 - 66:21
    How are things organized in today's cities?
  • 66:21 - 66:22
    That's what we're fighting for.
  • 66:22 - 66:25
    It's not just about social justice,
  • 66:25 - 66:28
    we also need to value diversity.
  • 66:28 - 66:30
    It's this mixture of different people
  • 66:30 - 66:32
    that's characteristic of Rio de Janeiro,
  • 66:32 - 66:34
    this wide diversity,
  • 66:34 - 66:37
    by which I mean this strength,
  • 66:37 - 66:40
    this vital force
    at the heart of Rio de Janeiro,
  • 66:40 - 66:42
    this is the power of diversity,
  • 66:42 - 66:45
    that will enable us to rebuild
    the social fabric, the urban fabric.
  • 66:46 - 66:47
    I think that Rio de Janeiro could be
  • 66:47 - 66:49
    one of the examples,
  • 66:49 - 66:51
    one of the models
  • 66:51 - 66:52
    showing the way towards this "new city".
  • 66:52 - 66:53
    That's what we're fighting for.
  • 67:22 - 67:24
    Oh my Lord!
  • 67:36 - 67:39
    They take things apart so fast,
  • 67:39 - 67:42
    in a fraction of a second!
  • 67:42 - 67:46
    Just like they destroyed our community
    in the blink of an eye
  • 67:46 - 67:51
    Amazing how quickly
    they dismantle their machinery.
  • 67:51 - 67:53
    It's quick to destroy.
  • 67:53 - 67:54
    Just like that!
  • 67:55 - 67:59
    My little house was standing there,
    peacefully, doing no harm to anyone.
  • 68:00 - 68:03
    His house was beside mine,
    doing no harm to anyone, and now it's gone!
  • 68:04 - 68:05
    Gone.
  • 68:05 - 68:08
    They kept on and on,
    until they got what they wanted.
  • 68:08 - 68:11
    When they came
    it was like a wasps' nest.
  • 68:11 - 68:14
    In the morning
    when you opened the door,
  • 68:14 - 68:18
    they were waiting for you,
    buzz buzz buzzing in your head.
  • 68:19 - 68:22
    In the afternoon,
    when you thought it was over,
  • 68:22 - 68:23
    same thing!
  • 68:23 - 68:27
    More of them! Another team!
  • 68:27 - 68:30
    Scrambling your brain.
  • 68:32 - 68:34
    Until they managed to get rid of him.
  • 68:34 - 68:37
    I said: "I'm not going to let this
    mess up my head...
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    Enough! I don't want to get sick because of it.
  • 68:47 - 68:49
    My house came up to here.
  • 68:51 - 68:52
    And here.
  • 68:53 - 68:55
    Look what's left there.
  • 68:56 - 68:57
    Look there
  • 68:57 - 69:02
    Now I'm lost without my home.
  • 69:02 - 69:04
    The only thing
    I haven't lost yet is my wife!
  • 69:06 - 69:08
    I haven't lost my wife...
  • 69:08 - 69:12
    or my kids... and grand-kids.
  • 69:14 - 69:17
    That's all I've got left.
    Otherwise,
  • 69:17 - 69:19
    I think I'd be in much worse shape.
  • 69:39 - 69:41
    Do you think you'll stay?
  • 69:41 - 69:45
    Of course! Resist, never give up!
  • 69:46 - 69:48
    And you'll win?
  • 69:49 - 69:52
    I'm convinced, who knows?
  • 69:53 - 69:57
    If you believe in miracles as I do...
  • 69:58 - 70:00
    If it wasn't for my faith I wouldn't be here
  • 70:00 - 70:02
    Do you know what happened?
  • 70:02 - 70:04
    We have to fight for our rights.
  • 70:06 - 70:08
    We have to fight for our rights.
  • 70:08 - 70:10
    If everybody realized
  • 70:11 - 70:14
    that we have rights,
  • 70:14 - 70:16
    that we should be respected too,
  • 70:16 - 70:19
    things would be done with dignity.
  • 70:21 - 70:25
    Because we live in the favela,
    in the community,
  • 70:25 - 70:26
    doesn't that mean we're worth something?
  • 70:26 - 70:28
    No, we aren't.
  • 70:28 - 70:29
    Do you know what makes me say that?
  • 70:29 - 70:34
    Come the election they'll be knocking
    on poor people's windows
  • 70:36 - 70:38
    To ask for votes.
  • 70:39 - 70:41
    Let's sit down and talk.
  • 70:42 - 70:46
    Look, I want your space.
    Let's do something for the community.
  • 70:47 - 70:49
    But they haven't come yet.
  • 71:12 - 71:15
    Menor B
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    He was the king of the hill
  • 71:21 - 71:23
    who died 2 months ago.
  • 71:25 - 71:26
    They killed him.
  • 71:26 - 71:31
    His death was one of the reasons
    for the invasion.
  • 71:32 - 71:33
    Menor B
  • 71:38 - 71:40
    Today, one year
  • 71:40 - 71:42
    after we last spoke,
  • 71:42 - 71:43
    armed criminals have come back.
  • 71:44 - 71:45
    They came back?
  • 71:45 - 71:47
    ... after the UPP had been installed.
  • 71:47 - 71:50
    That's the fear of the residents.
  • 71:50 - 71:54
    How could traffickers come back
    with the Pacification Police there?
  • 71:55 - 71:59
    The people are wondering
    if they came back with their blessing.
  • 72:00 - 72:04
    Have they really come back?
    Is there a deal? What happened?
  • 72:15 - 72:17
    There must be an operation
    going on up there.
  • 72:22 - 72:24
    An operation?
  • 72:24 - 72:29
    Yes, drug traffickers,
    something like that...
  • 72:37 - 72:42
    So here, people were playing samba,
    a little show, having fun.
  • 72:42 - 72:47
    Around 2 am some armed guys
    came out of there.
  • 72:47 - 72:51
    The residents went running.
    They were really distraught...
  • 72:51 - 72:52
    It was right here.
  • 72:52 - 72:54
    The police tried to intervene.
  • 72:55 - 72:59
    But residents told them:
    "Don't! They're heavily armed!"
  • 72:59 - 73:01
    And the police turned around.
  • 73:02 - 73:04
    Even I can understand.
  • 73:04 - 73:08
    Two revolvers against 7 automatic weapons?
  • 73:08 - 73:11
    I would have run away
    if I was the police.
  • 73:11 - 73:12
    This is where it happened.
  • 73:12 - 73:14
    From that day there was a split:
  • 73:14 - 73:17
    one side is Comando Vermelho,
    the other is ADA.
  • 73:17 - 73:18
    Here it's ADA.
  • 73:18 - 73:20
    When did this happen?
  • 73:21 - 73:26
    More or less one month ago.
  • 73:27 - 73:29
    Shall we go in?
  • 73:49 - 73:54
    Here: ADA. Still fresh.
  • 73:57 - 73:59
    This one is brand new...
  • 73:59 - 74:00
    We have 3 bosses today.
  • 74:01 - 74:04
    The guy from ADA,
    the captain of the Pacification Police,
  • 74:04 - 74:06
    and the guy from Comando Vermelho.
  • 74:06 - 74:09
    It's weird because the residents
    should be in charge, right?
  • 74:10 - 74:13
    Unfortunately, they're not.
  • 74:33 - 74:36
    Do I think Christ
    is pacifying the city?
  • 74:36 - 74:40
    I think he wishes he could run away!
  • 74:40 - 74:45
    Christ must sometimes feel like
    giving up and running away.
  • 74:45 - 74:47
    Because it's too much.
  • 74:47 - 74:51
    Traffickers even threatened
    to bomb Christ...
  • 74:51 - 74:57
    It didn't help, it's not just the Police.
  • 74:57 - 74:59
    Now, it doesn't help to say
  • 74:59 - 75:03
    that the favela is a dangerous place
    full of criminals,
  • 75:03 - 75:05
    like our governor said:
  • 75:05 - 75:09
    women in the favela
    just produce criminals.
  • 75:09 - 75:11
    And the people down there
  • 75:12 - 75:16
    that's all they hear.
    And the media reinforces it!
  • 75:16 - 75:19
    My role is to bring these people
  • 75:19 - 75:22
    to listen to the people here.
  • 75:22 - 75:24
    I don't want them to listen to me.
  • 75:24 - 75:27
    I don't want to go around
    the favela and talk.
  • 75:27 - 75:29
    I'm here and I want to say:
  • 75:29 - 75:32
    do you want to know
    what the favela wants?
  • 75:32 - 75:35
    Then come into the favela,
    listen to the people.
  • 75:35 - 75:37
    There are loads
    of intelligent people in there.
  • 75:37 - 75:41
    People who didn't study,
    but have so much experience from life!
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    I don't think the UPP
    was designed to tackle
  • 76:16 - 76:21
    a problem in the relationship
    of the city to the favela.
  • 76:24 - 76:27
    People still think the problem
    is inside the favela,
  • 76:27 - 76:30
    and not in the city/favela relationship.
  • 76:30 - 76:34
    This is the main issue:
    it's a racial issue,
  • 76:34 - 76:37
    an issue of social exclusion,
  • 76:37 - 76:41
    of not recognizing equal rights for all,
  • 76:41 - 76:44
    an issue of image and culture.
  • 76:44 - 76:47
    It's about values, mentalities...
  • 76:48 - 76:51
    And in terms of the security problem,
    the right to security,
  • 76:52 - 76:54
    segregation and confrontation,
  • 76:54 - 76:57
    the pacification of the city,
  • 76:57 - 77:02
    we all need to be pacified,
    not just the favelas.
  • 77:03 - 77:07
    And this debate hasn't started yet!
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