What foods did your ancestors love?
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0:00 - 0:05Last year, I was living with
this indigenous family in India. -
0:07 - 0:08One afternoon,
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0:08 - 0:11the young son was eating,
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0:11 - 0:16and at the sight of me,
he quickly hid his curry behind his back. -
0:17 - 0:21It took a lot of persuasion to get him
to show me what he was eating. -
0:22 - 0:25It turned out to be moth larvae,
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0:25 - 0:29a traditional delicacy
with the Madia indigenous people. -
0:29 - 0:31I cried,
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0:31 - 0:33"Oh my God, you're eating these!
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0:33 - 0:35I hope there's a little left for me!"
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0:36 - 0:39I saw disbelief in the boy's eyes.
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0:39 - 0:41"You ... eat these?"
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0:42 - 0:45"I love these," I replied.
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0:47 - 0:50I could see he did not trust me one bit.
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0:51 - 0:55How could an urban, educated woman
like the same food as him? -
0:57 - 1:00Later, I broached the subject
with his father, -
1:00 - 1:03and it turned out to be
a mighty touchy affair. -
1:05 - 1:07He said things like,
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1:07 - 1:10"Oh, only this son of mine
likes to eat it. -
1:10 - 1:13We tell him, 'Give it up. It's bad.'
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1:13 - 1:15He doesn't listen, you see.
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1:15 - 1:18We gave up eating all this ages back."
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1:20 - 1:22"Why?" I asked.
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1:23 - 1:25"This is your traditional food.
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1:26 - 1:29It is available in your environment,
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1:29 - 1:30it is nutritious,
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1:30 - 1:33and -- I can vouch for it -- delicious.
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1:34 - 1:36Why is it wrong to eat it?"
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1:37 - 1:38The man fell silent.
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1:39 - 1:41I asked,
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1:41 - 1:45"Have you been told that your food is bad,
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1:45 - 1:48that to eat it is backward,
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1:48 - 1:50not civilized?"
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1:52 - 1:54He nodded silently.
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1:55 - 2:01This was one of the many, many times
in my work with indigenous people in India -
2:01 - 2:04that I witnessed shame around food,
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2:05 - 2:08shame that the food you love to eat,
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2:08 - 2:11the food that has been
eaten for generations, -
2:11 - 2:13is somehow inferior,
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2:13 - 2:15even subhuman.
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2:16 - 2:21And this shame is not limited
to out-of-the-way, icky foods -
2:21 - 2:24like insects or rats, maybe,
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2:24 - 2:27but extends to regular foods:
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2:27 - 2:29wild vegetables,
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2:29 - 2:32mushrooms, flowers --
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2:32 - 2:36basically, anything that is foraged
rather than cultivated. -
2:37 - 2:41In indigenous India,
this shame is omnipresent. -
2:42 - 2:44Anything can trigger it.
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2:44 - 2:49One upper-caste vegetarian schoolmaster
gets appointed in a school, -
2:49 - 2:54within weeks, children are telling
their parents it's yucky to eat crabs -
2:54 - 2:55or sinful to eat meat.
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2:56 - 3:00A government nutrition program
serves fluffy white rice, -
3:00 - 3:03now no one wants to eat
red rice or millets. -
3:04 - 3:09A nonprofit reaches this village with
an ideal diet chart for pregnant women. -
3:09 - 3:11There you go.
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3:11 - 3:13All the expectant mothers are feeling sad
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3:13 - 3:16that they cannot afford apples and grapes.
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3:16 - 3:19And people just kind of forget the fruits
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3:19 - 3:21that can be picked off the forest floor.
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3:23 - 3:24Health workers,
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3:25 - 3:27religious missionaries,
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3:27 - 3:30random government employees
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3:30 - 3:33and even their own educated children
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3:33 - 3:37are literally shouting it down
at the indigenous people -
3:37 - 3:41that their food is not good enough,
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3:41 - 3:42not civilized enough.
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3:43 - 3:46And so food keeps disappearing,
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3:47 - 3:49a little bit at a time.
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3:50 - 3:54I'm wondering if you all
have ever considered -
3:54 - 3:58whether your communities would have
a similar history around food. -
3:59 - 4:03If you were to talk
to your 90-year-old grandmother, -
4:04 - 4:07would she talk about foods
that you have never seen or heard of? -
4:09 - 4:11Are you aware how much
of your community's food -
4:11 - 4:13is no longer available to you?
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4:15 - 4:16Local experts tell me
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4:17 - 4:22that the South African food economy
is now entirely based on imported foods. -
4:23 - 4:26Corn has become the staple,
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4:26 - 4:32while the local sorghum, millets,
bulbs and tubers are all gone. -
4:32 - 4:35So are the wild legumes and vegetables,
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4:35 - 4:39while people eat potatoes and onions,
cabbages and carrots. -
4:40 - 4:42In my country,
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4:42 - 4:45this loss of food is colossal.
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4:45 - 4:49Modern India is stuck with rice, wheat
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4:49 - 4:51and diabetes.
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4:52 - 4:57And we have totally forgotten foods
like huge varieties of tubers, -
4:57 - 5:01tree saps, fish, shellfish,
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5:01 - 5:03oil seeds,
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5:03 - 5:07mollusks, mushrooms, insects,
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5:07 - 5:10small, nonendangered animal meats,
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5:10 - 5:15all of which used to be available
right within our surroundings. -
5:16 - 5:18So where has this food gone?
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5:19 - 5:22Why are our modern food baskets so narrow?
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5:23 - 5:29We could talk about the complex
political economic and ecological reasons, -
5:29 - 5:33but I am here to talk about
this more human phenomenon of shame, -
5:35 - 5:38because shame is the crucial point
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5:38 - 5:42at which food actually
disappears off your plate. -
5:43 - 5:45What does shame do?
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5:46 - 5:49Shame makes you feel small,
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5:49 - 5:50sad,
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5:50 - 5:51not worthy,
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5:51 - 5:53subhuman.
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5:54 - 5:58Shame creates a cognitive dissonance.
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5:58 - 6:00It distorts food stories.
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6:01 - 6:03Let us take this example.
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6:04 - 6:06How would you like to have
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6:07 - 6:09a wonderful, versatile staple
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6:10 - 6:13that is available abundantly
in your environment? -
6:13 - 6:15All you have to do is gather it,
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6:15 - 6:18dry it, store it,
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6:18 - 6:20and you have it for your whole year
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6:20 - 6:24to cook as many different
kinds of dishes as you want with it. -
6:25 - 6:29India had just such a food,
called "mahua," -
6:29 - 6:30this flower over there.
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6:31 - 6:35And I have been researching this food
for the past three years now. -
6:36 - 6:40It is known to be highly nutritious
in indigenous tradition -
6:40 - 6:42and in scientific knowledge.
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6:43 - 6:45For the indigenous,
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6:45 - 6:49it used to be a staple
for four to six months a year. -
6:51 - 6:54In many ways, it is very similar
to your local marula, -
6:54 - 6:57except that it is a flower, not a fruit.
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6:58 - 7:00Where the forests are rich,
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7:00 - 7:04people can still get enough to eat
for the whole year -
7:04 - 7:05and enough spare to sell.
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7:06 - 7:11I found 35 different dishes with mahua
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7:11 - 7:14that no one cooks anymore.
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7:15 - 7:20This food is no longer
even recognized as a food, -
7:20 - 7:22but as raw material for liquor.
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7:23 - 7:26You could be arrested
for having it in your house. -
7:26 - 7:29Reason? Shame.
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7:29 - 7:33I talked to indigenous people
all over India -
7:33 - 7:35about why mahua is no longer eaten.
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7:36 - 7:38And I got the exact same answer.
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7:39 - 7:42"Oh, we used to eat it
when we were dirt-poor and starving. -
7:43 - 7:45Why should we eat it now?
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7:45 - 7:47We have rice or wheat."
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7:49 - 7:51And almost in the same breath,
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7:51 - 7:54people also tell me
how nutritious mahua is. -
7:55 - 7:58There are always stories of elders
who used to eat mahua. -
7:59 - 8:03"This grandmother of ours,
she had 10 children, -
8:03 - 8:08and still she used to work so hard,
never tired, never sick." -
8:09 - 8:14The exact same dual narrative
every single where. -
8:15 - 8:16How come?
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8:16 - 8:19How does the same food
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8:19 - 8:24get to be seen as very nutritious
and a poverty food, -
8:24 - 8:26almost in the same sentence?
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8:27 - 8:29Same goes for other forest foods.
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8:30 - 8:33I have heard story
after heartrending story -
8:33 - 8:36of famine and starvation,
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8:36 - 8:39of people surviving on trash
foraged out of the forest, -
8:40 - 8:42because there was no food.
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8:43 - 8:45If I dig a little deeper,
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8:45 - 8:49it turns out the lack
was not of food per se -
8:49 - 8:52but of something respectable like rice.
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8:52 - 8:54I asked them,
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8:54 - 8:58"How did you learn
that your so-called trash is edible? -
8:59 - 9:04Who told you that certain
bitter tubers can be sweetened -
9:04 - 9:06by leaving them in a stream overnight?
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9:07 - 9:10Or how to take the meat
out of a snail shell? -
9:10 - 9:13Or how to set a trap for a wild rat?"
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9:14 - 9:17That is when they start
scratching their heads, -
9:17 - 9:20and they realize that they learned it
from their own elders, -
9:21 - 9:27that their ancestors had lived
and thrived on these foods for centuries -
9:27 - 9:29before rice came their way,
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9:29 - 9:33and were way healthier
than their own generation. -
9:34 - 9:36So this is how food works,
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9:38 - 9:39how shame works:
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9:39 - 9:46making food and food traditions disappear
from people's lives and memories -
9:46 - 9:48without their even realizing it.
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9:50 - 9:53So how do we undo this trend?
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9:54 - 10:00How do we reclaim our beautiful
and complex systems of natural food, -
10:01 - 10:06food given to us lovingly by Mother Earth
according to her own rhythm, -
10:07 - 10:11food prepared by our foremothers with joy
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10:11 - 10:14and are eaten by our forefathers
with gratitude, -
10:15 - 10:19food that is healthy, local, natural,
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10:20 - 10:22varied, delicious,
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10:22 - 10:25not requiring cultivation,
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10:25 - 10:27not damaging our ecology,
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10:28 - 10:29not costing a thing?
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10:30 - 10:32We all need this food,
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10:32 - 10:35and I don't think I have to tell you why.
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10:36 - 10:40I don't have to tell you
about the global health crisis, -
10:40 - 10:43climate change, water crisis,
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10:43 - 10:44soil fatigue,
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10:44 - 10:46collapsing agricultural systems,
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10:46 - 10:47all that.
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10:48 - 10:52But for me, equally important reasons
why we need these foods -
10:52 - 10:54are the deeply felt ones,
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10:55 - 10:58because food is so many things, you see.
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10:58 - 11:02Food is nourishment, comfort,
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11:02 - 11:05creativity, community,
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11:05 - 11:09pleasure, safety, identity
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11:09 - 11:10and so much more.
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11:11 - 11:13How we connect with our food
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11:13 - 11:15defines so much in our lives.
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11:16 - 11:18It defines how we connect with our bodies,
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11:19 - 11:21because our bodies are ultimately food.
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11:22 - 11:26It defines our basic sense of connection
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11:26 - 11:27with our existence.
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11:28 - 11:32We need these foods most today
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11:32 - 11:35to be able to redefine our space as humans
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11:35 - 11:38within the natural scheme of things.
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11:39 - 11:41And are we needing
such a redefinition today? -
11:44 - 11:48For me, the only real answer is love,
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11:49 - 11:54because love is the only thing
that counters shame. -
11:56 - 12:00And how do we bring more of this love
into our connections with our food? -
12:02 - 12:06For me, love is, in a big way,
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12:06 - 12:10about the willingness
to slow down, -
12:11 - 12:14to take the time to feel,
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12:14 - 12:18sense, listen, inquire.
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12:20 - 12:22It could be listening to our own bodies.
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12:23 - 12:30What do they need
beneath our food habits, beliefs -
12:30 - 12:32and addictions?
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12:32 - 12:36It could be taking time out
to examine those beliefs. -
12:37 - 12:39Where did they come from?
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12:40 - 12:42It could be going back into our childhood.
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12:43 - 12:45What foods did we love then,
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12:46 - 12:47and what has changed?
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12:48 - 12:53It could be spending
a quiet evening with an elder, -
12:53 - 12:56listening to their food memories,
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12:56 - 12:59maybe even helping them
cook something they love -
12:59 - 13:00and sharing a meal.
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13:02 - 13:06Love could be about remembering
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13:06 - 13:08that humanity is vast
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13:08 - 13:10and food choices differ.
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13:11 - 13:15It could be about showing
respect and curiosity -
13:15 - 13:17instead of censure
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13:17 - 13:20when we see somebody enjoying
a really unfamiliar food. -
13:22 - 13:26Love could be taking the time to inquire,
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13:27 - 13:28to dig up information,
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13:28 - 13:30reach out for connections.
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13:31 - 13:35It could even be
a quiet walk in the fynbos -
13:35 - 13:40to see if a certain plant
speaks up to you. -
13:40 - 13:41That happens.
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13:41 - 13:43They speak to me all the time.
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13:45 - 13:46And most of all,
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13:47 - 13:51love is to trust that
these little exploratory steps -
13:51 - 13:55have the potential to lead us
to something larger, -
13:56 - 13:59sometimes to really surprising answers.
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14:00 - 14:03An indigenous medicine woman once told me
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14:03 - 14:06that love is to walk on Mother Earth
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14:06 - 14:09as her most beloved child,
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14:10 - 14:15to trust that she values
an honest intention -
14:15 - 14:17and knows how to guide our steps.
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14:18 - 14:20I hope I have inspired you
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14:20 - 14:23to start reconnecting
with the food of your ancestors. -
14:23 - 14:25Thank you for listening.
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14:25 - 14:27(Applause)
- Title:
- What foods did your ancestors love?
- Speaker:
- Aparna Pallavi
- Description:
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Around the world, Indigenous food cultures vanish because of industrialized agriculture and a shifting, Western-influenced concept of the ideal diet. Food researcher Aparna Pallavi explores why once-essential culinary traditions disappear from people's lives and memories almost without notice -- and serves up a subtle solution to revitalize our connection to the foods we eat.
- Video Language:
- English
- Team:
closed TED
- Project:
- TEDTalks
- Duration:
- 14:40
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Raissa Mendes
Dear volunteers who worked on this task in English, I am translating these subtitles into Brazilian Portuguese, and I'd like to bring the following issues to your attention:
Subtitle 0:25 - I am not sure, but, considering the sound of it, I think she said "Maria" people.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Scheduled_Tribes_in_India#Madhya_Pradesh
Subtitle 2:27 - I think she says "wild vegetables", and not "white vegetables".
Subtitle 3:13 - I think she says "grapes", and not "crepes". And It makes sense considering what she says next about fruits.
Annika Bidner
I would like to add that the timing of this talk is off sync from about 12:26 until the end. We have corrected for that in the Swedish version, but I think this should be corrected in the English original as well.