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Was everyone having a good time?
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Any good shows so far today?
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Any good talks. Some good ones.
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I can strive for
a low level here.
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[LAUGHTER] I want to make sure.
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This is Hydrogeology 101.
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If you're here for the pumps,
I think that's next door.
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We'll wait for a
few more people to
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get seated here and
we'll get started,
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and I'll give the code for
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the CU credits after
we're done here.
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If I give it to you now,
everyone gets up and leaves.
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[BACKGROUND]
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You can come on in,
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and have a seat. It's okay.
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Get all the students
up here in the front,
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that's good. She set an example.
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They're short, so I'll
let them sit there.
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Especially Nancy here,
she's like 4'1".
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We'll go and get started here.
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I'm Dr. Richard Laton.
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I'm an associate professor of
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hydrogeology at California
State University, Fullerton.
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For those of you who are not
from the California area,
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that's Cal State Disneyland.
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We are about 3-4 miles
away from Disneyland.
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What makes Cal State Fullerton
even more connected to
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Disneyland is they both
opened in the same year,
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and our campus is a
really ugly campus.
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Apologies, sorry students,
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but it's a really
ugly ass campus,
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and it's big boxes.
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The rumor has it that
when Disneyland came in,
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they unpacked it,
we got the boxes.
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Since the state of
California is broke,
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it makes a lot of sense
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because they've
never been wealthy.
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Anyway, we're going
to talk about
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Hydrogeology 101 today,
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and I'm going to take you
through the water cycle.
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Even give you a little
math, it's okay.
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Give you a little history
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about me and how I got
into this business,
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I have an oceanography
degree from St.
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Cloud State, Minnesota.
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If you know where
Minnesota is at, and St.
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Cloud is in the
middle of that state,
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country, it's almost
its own country.
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You cannot get further from
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an ocean than St.
Cloud, Minnesota.
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When I went to apply
for graduate school,
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nobody would take me, and
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my GPA might have
sucked, so that's okay.
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But somehow I found a group at
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Western Michigan University that
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took me in because I had some
pretty good math skills.
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But what's more interesting
and why you guys should
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pay attention here is
they had a drilling rig,
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and they learned that I
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drove fork truck
one summer for 3M.
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I was an intern at 3M,
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and whatnot, so I
drove fork truck.
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I went out with them
one day when they were
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drilling environmental
monitoring wells for a thesis,
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and I lifted the sands
of cement around,
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and the sand and
grout and everything.
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By the end of the day,
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the head professor walks
up to me and goes,
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"Hey, I heard you
drove fork truck.
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You're our driller for
the next seven years."
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In my graduate career,
I put in nearly
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1,000 wells as deep
as 2-300 feet,
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most of them shallow,
but I was their driller.
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How did I learn to do that?
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From a fork truck
driving skill set,
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I went out and talked
to every contractor
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I could find and
asked them, teach me.
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I actually got my hands dirty.
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When I got my doctorate, I
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actually was in the
drilling business.
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I've actually done
a lot of that.
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I'm going to try to
put into hydrogeology
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here the context for which
it makes sense to everybody.
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The objective today is get
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a better understanding of
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groundwater and
groundwater principles.
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Like I said, we'll throw in
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a little bit of math in there,
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nothing too serious, but
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I have to do that,
I'm a professor.
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We're going to go through
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some different things
associated with it.
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Hopefully today, you're going
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to get some basic definitions,
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so we all have the same
verbiage to deal with.
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We're going to talk about
the hydrologic cycle
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because groundwater
is part of it,
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despite the fact that
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our elementary schools
don't teach that,
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which really pisses me
off that in the K-12,
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groundwater is a
forgotten subject,
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and yet, it's what we
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usually get most of our
drinking water from.
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But we're talking about
aquifers and clear up
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some mysteries about
confined aquifers
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and semi-confined aquifers.
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We're talking about
some water budgets,
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some wells, and contamination.
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Then I'll also show you
some of the tools that
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we do to investigate things.
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Some definitions, so we're
all on the same page.
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We're the only planet
with liquid water.
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Pretty important. The
hydrologic cycle. What is it?
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We get evaporation,
we get condensation,
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we get precipitation,
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and once it hits the ground,
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you get either run-off
or it can infiltrate in.
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The stuff that infiltrates in
is what's important to us,
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because that's what
groundwater ends up being.
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Now where along
that cycle happens,
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a lot of different
things can take place.
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Where precipitation
happens, and weather,
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and we're going to
talk about some of
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the weather issues
associated with it.
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Hydrology. Why would we
care about hydrology?
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Hydrology to me is the
study of surface water.
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Hydrogeology is that water
that resides in the dirt,
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but hydrology is connected to
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that dirt for which the
groundwater is connected.
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There's a connection
there, and we
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got to talk about that,
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because that's certainly
something that's
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a hot issue in a lot of states.
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How can I pump over here
and not impact this?
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I'm going to tell you
some stories about how
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Orange County, California,
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deals with it. Unsaturated zone.
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That's that zone of
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air and water that resides
above the aquifer.
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There's some water in there,
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but primarily, it's
not 100% saturated.
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We're going to show
you some slides
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and we'll talk about that
a little bit further.
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The water table,
we'll define it.
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We'll define an unconfined
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aquifer and a confined aquifer,
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then I'll have to throw
Darcy's law on there,
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and we'll talk about a
couple of other things.
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Distribution of water on Earth.
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Most of the water,
as everyone knows,
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resides in the oceans.
Is it potable?
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No. Most of the water on
Earth is not drinkable as is.
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That narrows our little piece of
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the pie that we're all
interested in to pretty small.
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Fresh water is about 3% of
the total water on Earth.
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Groundwater makes up a
large portion of that.
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I like this little slide here,
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because right there is
all the fresh water
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on Earth compared to
the volume of Earth.
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Groundwater, you can't see it,
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but it's a little tiny dot down
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here in one county in Arkansas.
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That's the potable water source
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we have for the whole world.
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It's pretty small, so it's
something precious to us.
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It doesn't mean we can't
take that salt water,
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and desalinate it, and do
some other things to it.
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People are doing
that, they have to.
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Can't keep raising
the population
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and keep your pie the same size,
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and force everyone to live.
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What is the hydrologic cycle?
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There again, we have
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open surface waters
where water evaporates.
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We have plants that transpire
and sweat like we do.
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Every time you
sweat, you're taking
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liquid and you turn
it into a gas phase,
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smell a little bit,
but it's okay.
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That goes up in the atmosphere.
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Water evaporates as pure H_2O.
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When it evaporates, if there's
any contaminants in it,
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be it salt or any pollutant,
that's left behind.
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When water evaporates, it
only evaporates as pure H_2O.
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That's why we distill water.
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Once it gets to the air,
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it cools down and condenses
and at some point in time,
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the weather system floats over,
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it condenses and it
precipitates out.
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Now, precipitate
out as snow, rain,
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sleet, whatever. It doesn't
really matter to us.
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At that point in time,
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we can have infiltration
going into the ground
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and moving through as groundwater
or we can have runoff.
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Certainly, runoff has
some opportunities
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for groundwater recharge,
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but we're not going
to talk about that.
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One of the things I want
to bring up though,
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which I think is going to be
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a bigger player as
we move forward,
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is what I call the
urban water cycle.
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The county that I live in
has four million people.
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We recycle 100 million gallons
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of wastewater every single day
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back into our drinking
water supply,
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100 million gallons
of water that we
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treat and put back
into the ground.
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All of the drinking water we
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have in our county
is groundwater.
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We pull it out with
pumps and wells,
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but it's all recycled water.
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We're 100% sustainable
in a desert.
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What's going to happen is
we're going to start seeing
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people start using their
water for whatever purpose,
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having that go
back in the ground
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and then we're going to
pull it back out is usable.
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Now we have to treat it.
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That's going to
happen more and more.
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One of the issues that came up
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was someone was talking
about Minnesota.
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Anybody here from Minnesota?
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Good. We can make fun of them.
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It's Minnesota, I got
to make fun of them.
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The land of 10,000 lakes.
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What's their problem? They're
running out of groundwater.
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The land of 10,000 lakes,
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how can you run out
of groundwater?
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Every one of those lakes is
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tied to the groundwater system.
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How can you be running
out of groundwater?
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What's their water cycle?
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They pump it up, they use it,
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they put it in the Mississippi
River and give it to Iowa.
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Anybody from Iowa? I can
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make a lot of fun of Midwest.
This works out well.
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They just give the
water to Iowa.
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Well, they already
paid to pump it.
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They already used it,
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paid to treat it,
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and then give it to Iowa.
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Why in the hell
would you do that?
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Just put it back on the
ground in Minnesota and keep
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it and that's something they're
going to have to look at.
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Rather than letting
that water all go
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down the rivers to the ocean,
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we're going to actually
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start short-circuiting
that system
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because it's something
we're going to have to do.
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It's more sustainable.
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We're already paying to
treat that wastewater,
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why not reuse it again?
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You can do this on a
private property with
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a single well as well
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as everything else because
what we've been doing.
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You have your septic tank,
goes to leach field.
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Where do you think
that water is going?
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Right back to your well.
You pull it back up.
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Now, it's been filtered and
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cleaned by the time
it gets back there,
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but it's the same water.
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It's like my
eight-year-old daughter.
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She went up to some friends we
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were on vacation last
week and she goes,
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you know that water you're
drinking was dinosaur pee.
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[LAUGHTER] All water
on Earth is recycled.
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Just here's another
nice little picture
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I like from the USGS,
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talking about the water cycle.
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It gives a few other
terms in there.
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Nothing to be too worried about.
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Certainly, there's storage, but
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groundwater is the one
we're worried about.
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There again, when you pull
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it out and use it
and put it back in,
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you're just keeping
the system going.
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Why give it to the ocean?
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Meteorology. Why would
I talk about that?
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Well, remember in
our water cycle,
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it's first step. We have
to talk about climate.
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Lots of things out there
with climate change,
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global warming,
all these things.
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Is it true or not?
I know my audience.
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I'm not going to sit here
and say global warming.
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Climates changed though.
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Twelve thousand years ago,
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Chicago had a one
mile thick sheet
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of ice on top of it. Mile thick.
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Is it there today? Anybody
been in Chicago lately?
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January, it feels like it,
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but it's still not a mile thick.
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That was 12,500 years ago.
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Were there are a lot of
cars driving around,
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coal fire power plants?
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No. Climates change.
They warm up.
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Now, what the human impact
is on that, I don't know.
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There again, educate yourself
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and get your own opinion,
but it does change.
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It's going to change,
it has changed in
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the past and will
change in the future.
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Temperatures impact
groundwater resources.
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Notice this big yellow areas in
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the West and we don't
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have a whole hell
of a lot of water.
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Lots of water over here.
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Other factors is location
and altitude and latitude,
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but all of that precipitation
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dictates what groundwater
resources we have.
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If you don't have a
lot of precipitation,
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you don't have a lot of
recharge and therefore,
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you're limited in your
groundwater supply.
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The other thing that's
important and I bring
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this up mainly because
of the West Coast,
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not so important for you guys,
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is the rain shadow effect.
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As I tell my students
is Pacific Ocean,
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largest water body on
Earth, lots of evaporation.
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What direction do the
weather systems usually go
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in the United States
from West to East.
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What happens?
Evaporation goes up,
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the condensation happens, but
that cloud is really heavy.
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It's got a lot of water in it.
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It hits that first bump,
which in our case,
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the San Bernardino
or San Gabriel,
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but it would be the
Cascades or the Rockies.
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Now, what happens is that
cloud can't get over the hill.
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It precipitates
out, rains, snows,
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lightens it slow until it
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gets high enough,
they can float over.
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We end up with this area on
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the backside which
gets less rain.
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You end up with a
desert-type environment.
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The Mojave Desert would
be a great example.
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But also Nebraska
in the Midwest,
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through to the Rockies have
the rain shadow effects.
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On the one side, they
get lots of rainfall,
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very little on the other side.
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Surface water. There again,
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we can talk about it in
all different fashions,
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from swamps to rivers
to oceans, aqueducts,
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like we have in California,
nice pretty lakes,
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but nonetheless, it's a way
for the water to move over.
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Now, it's always
touching the ground.
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It can be a gaining stream
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or a losing stream.
What do I mean by that?
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Certain locations along
that water pathway,
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the water is actually
going into the ground.
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It's losing. A hundred gallons
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come in, it's only 50 go out.
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Where does the 50
go? Into the ground.
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Other places, that
water's coming in.
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It's a gaining stream.
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How do you know the difference
by looking at them?
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Does that stream
flow year round?
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Why is there water in that river
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and it hasn't rained in months?
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That's because groundwater is
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discharging into that
creek or stream,
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allowing it to keep flowing.
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Where if you go to
the Mojave River,
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it's a river with no water
because when it does rain,
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water goes along it four ways,
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but it's always going
on the ground because
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the groundwater is about
900 feet below it.
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In the Midwest, you don't have
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to worry about that so much,
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but us West Coast people do.
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The way we study surface waters,
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we look at what's
called a hydrograph,
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which is really time
versus discharge.
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Here, maybe a
rainstorm happened,
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and we get a little bit more
water in the river and down,
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it gets dry for a while.
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You can look at
things over time.
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What happens is water is going
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down and we get this big peak
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because the rainfall happened,
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then over time, it dissipates.
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Well, if you can imagine when
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water hits certain
parts of the watershed,
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it takes a while for it
to get to the river,
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and so that tail gets drawn out.
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Now, from planners
and engineers,
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they're always trying to
figure out how to take
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this peak and knock it
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down because that peak is
what causes mass flooding.
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In certain areas,
that's why we have
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flat rooftops on big buildings.
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They actually want to store
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some of the water up there so it
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doesn't hit all the storm sewers
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or storm drains the same time,
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because if all that water
went to storm drain,
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you can't make a big
enough pipe for that flow.
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In order to do that, they store
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the water temporarily
and then try
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and discharge it over time to
those surface water bodies.
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Here's a nice illustration
showing a gain stream.
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There, again, groundwater
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is feeding that surface water,
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but this could be a lake
or stream or river.
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It doesn't have to
be just a stream.
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But groundwater is
actually coming
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into it and discharging
and flowing over.
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Other times where the
river is actually
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higher or the lake is higher
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than the groundwater and
you see it going out.
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What's interesting, what
I never thought of was,
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this is great. This
is book stuff.
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But the Mississippi River has
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places along it where it's
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gaining and places
where it's losing.
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It doesn't always have to be the
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same for every inch of it.
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In fact, one of the
things I did for
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my dissertation was look at
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the Kalamazoo River in Michigan.
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There, over a
stretch of 50 feet,
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it switched to 100% where it was
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100% gaining to 100% losing
over 100 foot stretch,
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and did that at different
levels down the thing.
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It can be really short-lived.
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But nonetheless, it's
that interaction between
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that surface water body and
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the groundwater which we're
really talking about.
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Let's talk about groundwater.
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That's the water that's in
the soils or in the rock.
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It's the stuff that sits in
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between all these
fractures to these grains.
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It's stuff that we can't see.
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What I love about
groundwater and love about
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teaching about is
you can't see it,
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so I'm always right. You
can't prove me wrong.
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Surface water, any monkey
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can teach that stuff because
you can go and touch it.
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You can't touch groundwater
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unless you do something with it.
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That's either go to a spring
or put a well in the ground.
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What is it? It's
the water contained
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in spaces within
soil and bedrock.
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It's less than only 1%
of all water on earth,
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but it's 40 times more
abundant than lakes
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and streams. That's the key.
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The groundwater, even
though it's minimal,
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it's still so much bigger than
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all that freshwater that
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everyone thinks the
surface is great.
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Our politicians can vote on
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big river projects
because they can see it.
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Tough to vote on
a big groundwater
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project when you can't see it.
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Some other terms, zone of
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aeration or vadose zone
or unsaturated zone.
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That's the zone from
what we walk on
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down to some level which
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I'm going to call
the water table.
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At that point, everything is
100% saturated with water.
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All the void spaces in
between the fractures and
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the sand grains or
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clay or wherever else,
it has water in it.
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Above that water table point
is what the vadose zone is,
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and in here, we can have
water, but we also have air.
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It's not 100% saturated.
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It has to have
some water because
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the water had to get from here
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down. Those are some terms.
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We have this is the vadose
zone or unsaturated zone,
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down here, we have my aquifer,
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and that's the saturated
zone because everything is
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filled with 100% with water,
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and the water table is the
boundary between them.
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Now, what makes it complex is
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this is what's called
an unconfined aquifer.
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If I was to just dig a well,
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there's no clay in
there, just sand,
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go down my sandbox,
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I hit the water table,
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it's pretty easy to recognize.
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It's also for those of you
who dig in sand and gravels,
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it's right where the hole
starts collapsing on you.
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Because from that point on,
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the pressure is into my
hole, not out of it.
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Above it, I can keep the hole
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open just by digging a hole.
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What is an aquifer?
Well, that's one.
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This is a definition,
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not necessarily the best one,
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but it's a body of rock that's
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sufficiently water
permeable to yield
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economical significant
quantities of water to wells.
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What the hell is economical?
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I have no idea because
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everybody's book is
going to be different.
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To me, the aquifer is
that first body of water,
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our first soil unit that's
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100% saturated with water
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regardless of it's
rock or whatnot.
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The key is going to be this
unconfined and confined.
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Now, you got cursed around here.
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It's probably an unconfined
aquifer for the most part.
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Is that right around here?
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Does it go up and down with
barometric pressure changes?
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When it rains, do you see
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a response in your
wells, Tennessee?
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I don't know. Anybody
here from Tennessee?
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At least one person brave
enough to raise his hand?
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That's good. An
unconfined or confined.
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Unconfined, to me, means
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that when water hits
the land surface,
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it can go unimpeded
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down to some depth
at that water table.
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There's nothing to slow it
down, go straight there.
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It also means when you have
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a weather system come through
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and the barometric
pressure changes,
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I can actually see
the water level go
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up and down based upon
that pressure system.
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A confined aquifer is just that.
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It has some rock or
clay unit that is
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semi permeable or impermeable
sitting on top of it,
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allowing pressure to
build up below that.
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When it rains, the water
doesn't get there directly.
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It has to go somewhere
else, and maybe
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recharge from a distance away.
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I'm going to show you a
picture here and hopefully we
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can talk about that
a little more.
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Well, here's another
one. You guys
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don't have a lot of
faults around, do you?
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Anybody from Tennessee?
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Is there any faults around here?
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Then there are some faults.
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But they can be a
conduit for flow
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or a barrier to flow, and
depending on what they are,
-
and some research
we've been doing
-
is some of the rock units,
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we're finding the faults
are actually acting
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as underground rivers as
much as I hate that term.
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But here's a picture of
Orange County's aquifer.
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Each of these brown things
represent confining units.
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They are pressurizing or
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allowing the water down
to be pressurized.
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We have recharge up here
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that feeds this
middle of this basin.
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I'll talk a little more
about that in a second.
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Confined aquifer, as we see
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here has a confining unit on it,
-
has a rock unit that's
-
not allowing water to
perfectly move through it.
-
Now, one of the things I always
-
tell my students is,
everything is permeable.
-
Give enough time,
-
water will find its way into
anything and everything.
-
That time is the question.
-
When we think about
confining units,
-
we're looking at
something that takes
-
hundreds of thousands of
years to get through it.
-
It'll get through it. If we
put water on this table,
-
sooner or later, it
will get through it.
-
But how long will that take?
-
You can actually have some
perched systems as well
-
here where we have what's called
-
an aquiclude or aquitard,
-
just different schematics
for the same thing,
-
but you can have water
perched on top of it,
-
even though we have some
vadose zone down below it.
-
That's something
that happens in the
-
glacial areas quite a bit.
-
We were finding all
little thin silt units
-
that were holding five
or six feet of water.
-
You drill through that as dry.
-
For contaminant work,
-
that was really
horrible because you
-
drill that little one inch
layer pretty quickly.
-
All of a sudden, you
cross contaminate
-
something that wasn't
contaminated before.
-
Here's my little scheme.
-
Bunch of wells, here's
my vadose zone.
-
In here, I have
both water and air,
-
but then I have my water table.
-
This is an unconfined aquifer.
-
It goes up and down with
-
rainfall and barometric
pressure changes.
-
However, here I have a
rock unit or a barrier
-
to water moving across
-
it and down here, I
have another aquifer.
-
Now, where did this
water come from?
-
Probably from something
off to the hills somewhere
-
, but it's under pressure.
-
How do I get an artesian well?
-
Well, when I drill
into this thing,
-
if that water level comes above
-
the surface, we
call it artesian.
-
But where did that
pressure come from?
-
That elevation for which
the water will rise
-
here is equal to whatever
-
the recharge elevation
was at some distance
-
away. Does that make sense?
-
It's up in the hills,
that's why you
-
get water flowing nicely.
-
These are the wells
everyone likes to do.
-
One of the things I
want to point out
-
here is that the
water in this well,
-
which is screened down here,
-
is higher than the water in
this unconfined aquifer,
-
then the pressure is upward.
-
Water moves from high
pressure to low pressure.
-
This means that this
aquifer is pretty well
-
protected because its pressure
is out of it, not into it.
-
While this one, since
the water level is
-
lower in this one than this one,
-
the vertical gradient
is downward,
-
so this could be a
potential aquifer
-
for contamination transfer.
-
That's one reason why
-
if you're ever doing
environmental work,
-
we put in nested wells.
-
What I mean by nested wells,
-
two wells next to each other,
-
but screened at
different depths.
-
We want to know if the water is
-
moving downward or upward.
-
Some other big words that
we use in hydrogeology,
-
homogeneous, and heterogeneous.
-
Homogeneous means it's all
the same in all locations,
-
beach sand is nice that
for properties of geology.
-
Heterogeneous is going to be
-
the clay or glacial out-wash
-
has all kinds of stuff in it.
-
Then there's isotropic and
-
anisotropic we can
talk about later.
-
What's that mean
when I was drilling,
-
it meant porosity
and permeability.
-
What's the difference?
-
Porosity is that number we
-
give to the volume of
water a soil can hold.
-
Permeability is, can that
water move through that soil?
-
One of the things I always
tell my students is,
-
what's the porosity of
sand versus porosity of
-
clay? They're about the same.
-
They hold about the
same amount of water.
-
Somewhere around 35 to
45%, they can hold water.
-
But permeability, which is
what I really care about,
-
is how that water
moves through it.
-
Clay is pretty low.
Sand pretty good.
-
We get confused a lot of times
-
by talking about the porosity of
-
stuff because it may be
the same porosity value,
-
but the permeability
is what I really care
-
about because I need to
get that water to my well.
-
I want to know how it's
moving through that aquifer.
-
Permeability is probably
a better verbiage
-
to use when we're trying
to deal with water issues.
-
Which brings me up to
well sorted versus poorly
-
sorted or well graded
versus poorly graded.
-
Now, was a McLane
lecture in 2009.
-
I don't know if any
of you guys heard
-
me give my lecture on
-
soil classification.
Hopefully, you did.
-
Actually, hopefully,
everyone is out there doing
-
the unified soil
classification system
-
for the rocks and soils.
-
No one has a clue what I'm
talking about. That's good.
-
Glad I spent 56 weeks of my life
-
traveling the goddamn country
-
and no one paid attention to me.
-
Well, it's like the thousands
-
of students I have that
never listened to me either.
-
Anyway, grading and sorting,
-
we can relate this
back to permeability.
-
It goes to grain size.
-
What I'd like to start
with is grading.
-
Grading means when
I grade my class,
-
I have a bunch of
students get As,
-
some get Bs, Cs, Ds, and Fs.
-
A well-graded class,
-
according to the
university is I have
-
equal numbers of grades for
each of those categories.
-
Poorly graded would be is I
-
give my whole class
a bunch of Cs.
-
When we relate that to rocks,
-
poorly graded means I
have all one-grain size.
-
Well-graded means
I have some clay,
-
silt, sand, gravel,
and boulders.
-
Sorting is opposite of grading.
-
If something is well-graded,
-
by definition, it's
poorly sorted.
-
If it's poorly graded,
it's well-sorted.
-
Just think of it
flip-flopping them.
-
In this case, what is this one?
-
It's well sorted. Immediately,
it would be poorly graded.
-
This one's poorly sorted,
so it's well-graded?
-
You can see it a little bit
of every different size.
-
This one's all pretty uniform.
-
What's important
about that is from
-
a water production
standpoint or groundwater.
-
Which one is water going
to move through easily?
-
This one or this one?
-
It's going to do
-
this one because everything
is about the same,
-
it's like putting a bunch
of marbles together.
-
If I add bebes to my
marble collection,
-
it plugs up all
those poised places
-
for that water to go through,
-
so it makes it more difficult.
-
From a permeability standpoint,
-
this has a much higher
permeability than this guy does.
-
Just because you
find some gravel on
-
there, that may be great,
-
but if there's a lot of clays
and silts tied with it,
-
that can be plugging
up your aquifer.
-
The same thing can
be happening with
-
fractures and curse systems.
-
It's great that I have
-
all kinds of large
cracks down there.
-
But they're not connected
to another crack
-
that ultimately connects to
-
your well, what
good does it mean?
-
It's great for storing water
because porosity is high,
-
but the permeability
is low because there's
-
no connectivity between
cracks and fractures.
-
It's that permeability
or that connection
-
between all those it's really
-
important to us from the
groundwater standpoint.
-
Am I doing a time?
Plenty of time.
-
We'll skip this one. Some
of the ways we look at
-
this and another term
you're going to hear
-
a lot is hydraulic conductivity.
-
Hydraulic conductivity, you
-
think of that as permeability.
-
It's the rate for
which water can
-
move through the rock media.
-
We have some different
ways we can test that.
-
We can sieve them,
-
we have these little
fancy permeables
-
that you only see in colleges.
-
No one as right mind would
ever do it outside that.
-
But this gives some
idea of there again.
-
Shales are pretty low.
-
Cars limestone is pretty high.
-
It can be up to several
hundred feet per day.
-
Down in Texas, they
did a study and
-
they did some dies and they
-
dropped them in one
part of the aquifer,
-
shot out about mile and
a half within two days.
-
That's moving pretty quick.
-
Depending on what you're
in, it can change
-
that permeability
hydraulic connectivity.
-
But for the most part,
-
groundwater moves pretty slow.
-
It's not really a
fast-moving system.
-
Why? Because again, it's
-
on a tilt and I'm
-
going to show you that
here in a second,
-
it goes from high
pressure to low pressure
-
and it has a bunch of rocks
it's got to get through.
-
It's like you trying
to get through a
-
crowd at the airport.
-
The bigger the crowd,
-
the harder it is for
you to get through it.
-
No one there, you
fly right through.
-
Which, by the way, how many
people flew here this time?
-
Did you have to go through
the whole security thing?
-
Because they pulled me aside,
which I thought, shit.
-
I'm going to be strip-searched
for whatever reason.
-
But no, I kept my shoes on,
-
my jackets on, my
glasses, everything.
-
They said no, walk through.
-
My briefcase didn't have to take
-
laptop out. I was like, really?
-
This is like the old days.
-
Well, now, on the way home,
-
I'll get strip-searched,
of course,
-
because it all evens
out sooner or later.
-
Yeah. So we have one
law in groundwater.
-
Now, what is the
law? Law of gravity.
-
We've tested enough times,
-
we've dropped the
pencil it falls down.
-
This is our one law that
we have in groundwater.
-
It's called Darcy's law.
-
Don't panic too much
about the giant equation.
-
I throw this up here just
-
so it scares the shit out of you
-
and you have to hire me to
do whatever you need done.
-
Really what it is. It's
my permeability number,
-
this K, hydraulic connectivity.
-
The area that I have to
move through and my slope.
-
What's the slope?
It's this height.
-
That gives me discharge.
-
Now I can calculate how
much water is moving
-
through that aquifer or
-
how much water I'm going
to get out of the aquifer,
-
which is more important
to most of us.
-
By using this equation,
-
we can calculate that.
-
But groundwater moves differently
in different regions.
-
Around here, it's cars based,
-
so you're going to
have sinkholes and
-
all kinds of
disappearing rivers,
-
arid regions, as
we'll see here, mean,
-
it could be wet and dry periods,
-
so water levels do go up and
down and so do other things.
-
This all impacts our
groundwater resources
-
and changes with the times.
-
This could be due
to all kinds of
-
different reasons, obviously.
-
So it brings me to
-
an equation which I think
you guys can handle.
-
This is my favorite
mathematical equation.
-
It's called the water budget.
-
It's pretty simple. I
have my glass of water.
-
If I add water to
my glass of water,
-
what does the water
level in my glass do?
-
It goes up.
-
If I drink that water,
-
what does the level
of my water glass do?
-
It goes down. This is my math.
-
But it allows me to
actually look at
-
from a basin standpoint or
a watershed standpoint,
-
what's happening with
my water resources.
-
Because it's pretty
important because if I have
-
more going in than
I'm taking out,
-
it is like your bank
account. That's good.
-
But if I start taking out
more than is going in,
-
what's that do to all the water
resources in that valley?
-
They all go down.
We're overstretching
-
and using more than we should.
-
It helps us become
more sustainable,
-
which is something
we're all going to have
-
to deal with as we move forward.
-
So some assumptions
we make is that
-
we have to usually
calculate what recharge
-
is and we usually
look at rainfall.
-
Of course, rainfall is sporadic.
-
You can get rainfall in one
-
county and none of
the other county,
-
but the watershed or
my groundwater basin
-
may cover both counties.
-
You have to make some
assumptions there what
-
the annual recharge might be.
-
What's return flow?
Anybody know?
-
Anybody ever heard that term?
-
How many people sit
on a septic tank?
-
I have a septic tank
at their house.
-
Every time you flush the toilet,
-
you're recharging
the groundwater.
-
We have to make some
calculations with
-
that may make some assumptions.
-
Other things we have to know is
-
what's the pumping
going on in that area.
-
Then surface water and this
big vapor transformation,
-
which is really
the plant uptake.
-
Plants steal water from us.
-
Of course, they give
us some oxygen,
-
which helps, but they
do steal our water.
-
So we basically
line up our inputs
-
and our outputs to our
bathtub or glass of water.
-
Our inputs are going
to be rain and snow.
-
It's going to be
that septic system,
-
what you discharge out the back.
-
It's going to be some streams
and springs coming in,
-
but we can also have groundwater
-
coming into our area as well as
-
leaving it because our
outputs are usage,
-
our pumping, plants,
rivers leaving our area,
-
then that groundwater
leaving the area.
-
Well, it's actually
-
pretty simple to make
these calculations.
-
What I want to do is
give an example of
-
one we did out in
the Mojave Desert,
-
some students of mine.
-
I forgot their names already,
so it doesn't matter.
-
Here is our inputs.
-
Here's three different
people who did
-
this inputs out there and
these are an acre-feet.
-
It ranged from about 1,000-1,700
-
acre-feet per year to my basin.
-
The outputs were from
4-10,000 going out.
-
So what should the water
levels in this basin
-
be doing? Going down.
-
You see down here, all
these negative numbers.
-
Well, let's look at safe yield,
-
then I'll show you
the hydrograph.
-
This is straight
out of a textbook.
-
Safe yield is the amount of
-
naturally occurring
groundwater that can
-
be economically and legally.
-
Let me get the lawyers in there,
-
withdrawn from an aquifer on
a sustained basis without
-
impairing native quality
or environmental damage.
-
Basically, what goes in should
equal what's coming out.
-
Here is that same
hydrograph I showed you
-
for surface water
but in groundwater.
-
This is water levels
taken in a well.
-
Here's 1964, here's 1999.
-
We're looking at about 80 feet.
-
Not sustainable.
-
Sooner you're going
to run out of water.
-
But something happened
-
here, we're going
to talk about that.
-
With those hydrographs, which we
-
use in the hydrogeology
field all the time.
-
In fact, the USGS does a
huge website that they
-
measure hydrographs from
waters all over the country,
-
actually all over the
world, in some cases,
-
and certainly scientists.
-
But really, we're
trying to get lots of
-
data to see what's happening
at those water levels.
-
Well, here's that
same hydrograph
-
with some other wells
in the same basin,
-
they all are showing
the same thing.
-
They're all going down.
-
Yeah, there's one anomaly in
-
here where somebody's
doing something different,
-
but they're all going
down until 1992,
-
I believe it is or 1994.
-
This is that flat area.
-
At this point in time,
-
everything was going
down until 1994,
-
then all of a sudden something
-
happened that made
it sustainable.
-
Well, what happened
was the farmers out in
-
this area were pumping
it's Mojave Desert.
-
They're growing
alfalfa. Mojave desert.
-
What the hell are we doing
growing alfalfa out there?
-
They're just pumping
out the water.
-
It's easy to get out,
-
it's shallow, just pump it out,
-
use it, but they weren't taking
-
care of it. So it's going down.
-
What happened is
they had to come in
-
there and force the farmers to
-
start utilizing a
certain amount of
-
water based upon
the water budgets,
-
saying, you just
can't keep pumping
-
forever at the rates you are,
-
we're going to ramp you down.
-
We're not going to
say you can't water,
-
we're just going
to say you can't
-
use unlimited amounts of water.
-
We're going to give
you some limits.
-
It's called adjudication
in California.
-
They went in there
and said, This is
-
how much water you get.
-
We're going to divide it amongst
-
the people whatever they did.
-
Ultimately what happened
was at that point in time,
-
everyone agreed and everybody
-
was able to live nice and
-
happy with one another
because everything was flat.
-
They used what
they were getting.
-
Now, does that
eliminate the farmers?
-
No, they just changed farms.
-
Now they grow
almonds and olives,
-
which take a whole hell
of a lot less water.
-
It turns out for some
of the farmers there,
-
the successful ones, the
cash crop was better.
-
They actually ended up
doing much better job.
-
So ultimately, we can use
-
these hydrographs to look at
-
water level declines
or increases.
-
In some cases, I got areas
where water levels are going
-
up. Why is that?
-
Because there's
less people using
-
it. That can be bad too.
-
In earthquake country, we
-
don't want shallow water tables,
-
then everything falls down
through liquefaction.
-
We also don't want
deep water changes
-
going on the opposite
direction either.
-
It's a balancing act, but it
is one that we can handle.
-
Using simple little equation,
-
we can put our water balance
-
for groundwater
standpoint in check.
-
Groundwater and wells.
-
Well, I love this
picture, and there again,
-
I'll share this PowerPoint
with anybody who wants it.
-
This is a picture I stole
from Johnson screens.
-
Because I just love
it because it shows
-
what the hell it
looks like downhole.
-
Remember, we can't see it.
But every time we pump,
-
we end up with drawdown,
-
with drawdown well,
-
my water tables up here
and I start pumping,
-
I'm going to drop
the water there.
-
Now, the key with an
unconfined aquifer is I'm
-
actually dewatering the aquifer.
-
A confined aquifer when I pump
it, I'm depressurizing it.
-
I'm taking water out,
-
but the pressure remember is way
-
above maybe potentially
land surface.
-
I'm depressurizing it.
I'm not dewatering it.
-
Here, in an unconfined aquifer,
-
I'm actually taking
water out of storage.
-
It's coming out of the geology
-
and this is now part
of the Vado Zone.
-
It could be permanent
basis or it
-
may be on a temporary basis.
-
What happens is
we start pumping,
-
even though our
groundwater flow is
-
discharging towards
this little creek here,
-
we're basically capturing some
-
of that water which
would have gone
-
down here ahead of time and
-
using it for whatever
purpose we want.
-
That is not to say this water
doesn't come back in here
-
before here and we have
a negative zero impact,
-
but it can be a negative
impact as well.
-
This is something that
we're going to have
-
to deal with is putting
-
water wells next to streams
makes a lot of sense.
-
But if we start drying
up those streams,
-
somebody's going to
notice because they
-
can see the surface water.
-
They don't tend to see the
groundwater once again.
-
Certainly we use water
for all fun purposes.
-
And here again, if
-
your septic systems that's
over here goes down over,
-
back up, and you
can use it again.
-
What's good about
that is what comes
-
out of me can go back in me.
-
Astronauts have shown
that for years.
-
It's what comes out of
you I don't want in me.
-
I don't know what drugs
you've been doing.
-
Which is something we're
going to have to worry about.
-
When I talk about
100 million gallons
-
of recycled water every day,
-
one of the things we're worried
about is pharmaceuticals.
-
They are small enough to get
-
through the vers
osmosis systems.
-
Now they're such small
quantities that,
-
whether or not it does any
damage to us, we don't know.
-
Remember, the EPA sets
-
their standards on
the water quality,
-
but it's based on data
from 20 years ago.
-
I mean, they're always
20 years behind.
-
They're trying to eliminate
the risk with who knows what?
-
Well. Here's some
pictures real quick.
-
Don't worry about the text.
-
This showing the flow lines
here is groundwater flow.
-
I have my recharge area up here,
-
a discharge area down here,
-
it could be a stream
or a lake and
-
you can put your well in
there and capture some
-
of it or you can do it in
-
a sustainable manner and
there's ways to do that.
-
Lots of calculations go into it.
-
Man's interaction with it.
-
The picture I want to show
you is this one right here.
-
Famous picture, Central
Valley of California.
-
What I didn't know
until I started
-
teaching was California
is responsible
-
for 30% of all the food in
the United States as a state,
-
30% of all the food
-
in the United States
comes from California.
-
A lot of it comes from
the Central Valley.
-
1925, the land used to be up
there. Now it's down here.
-
That's not due to erosion,
-
that's due to over pumping
-
the aquifers there and
the land subsided.
-
This is an older photograph.
-
The subsidence there has
been nearly 100%, 100 feet.
-
The land has dropped
-
100 feet because they
took out all the water.
-
There's nothing to
hold the sediment up,
-
it just collapses on itself.
-
You can actually from over
-
pumping and stuff and dry areas,
-
you can get these cracks
and fissures going over.
-
But something to keep
in mind. This is
-
not just a California thing.
-
We're seeing this
in Texas as well as
-
other states. Water quality.
-
Well, when it comes
to water quality,
-
keep in mind that groundwater
-
today is the cleanest
-
it's ever going to
be in the future.
-
It's tough to
swallow. Why is that?
-
Because everybody in this room,
-
everything we do does
something to the water system.
-
Be it you're taking a pill,
you urinate, wastewater.
-
It's you fertilized your yard.
-
It's the air pollution
that gets in the water,
-
the acid rain comes down.
-
It's always going to get worse.
-
Today is the best it's
going to be in the future.
-
That's okay because the
good news is we have
-
engineers whose sole job
-
is to figure out how
to clean this shit up.
-
Their job is to try to provide
-
us with good quality water.
-
Now, does it mean
that we can't get
-
good quality water out of
the ground in certain areas?
-
Absolutely, we can. We still do.
-
But over time, is that
going to stay the same?
-
We have natural occurring
-
contaminants sitting
in the ground,
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arsenic and chrome, or natural
occurring contaminants.
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Nitrates are not.
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Nitrates are man made.
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When you find nitrate
in your water,
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that's because somebody
put it out there.
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But yet, we have
to have the food.
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It's a life cycle we're
going to have to deal with.
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I can get in the ground all
kinds of different ways,
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straight down,
dissolve minerals.
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Obviously, limestone can get
down there quite quickly.
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Landfills, cars, you name it.
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Everything we do on the surface
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impacts our groundwater
one way or another.
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It's only a matter of time.
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If you start looking at China
and some foreign countries,
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we're light years away from
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them from water
quality standpoint.
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Why? Because we use
groundwater an awful lot.
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We don't rely on surface water.
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The nice thing about
the ground is what?
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It filters shit out.
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It takes things out,
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it adds things to it.
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Why does Orange County and
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their 100 million gallon
recycled system put
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it back in the
ground? Anybody know?
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Why don't they just
give it to us?
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Because when it comes out
of their treatment plant,
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it's pure H_2O,
has nothing in it.
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Pure H_2O, if that's
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the only source of water
you drink, will kill you.
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I demineralizes you.
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We need the minerals.
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We need the geology in
order to put the minerals
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back in the water when we
drink it, it has flavor.
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Distilled water has no flavor
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because it has no
minerals in it.
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It has no contaminants,
either, but that's okay.
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I just adds flavor.
We need that geology.
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We need that ground water
to go into the ground,
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dissolve some of those minerals,
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pick them up because we need
those as a human being.
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The only thing we
are is a little pile
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of white stuff
after you get zap.
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Remember the old Star Trek?
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They zap the guy
and the only thing
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left is a little
pile of white stuff.
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All we are is
jellyfish with salts.
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Well, that's what we need.
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We need that water to
go back in the ground.
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Groundwater is
always going to be
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a great source of
drinking water.
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Why does surface water suck so
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badly for drinking
water? Anybody know?
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It has to be base.
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Well, it's always going
to be slightly acidic,
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but that's not really
the problem. What is it?
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Low mineral count.
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It has low mineral count
and it fluctuates.
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It's at the surface.
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Flow wise, it fluctuates a
lot more than groundwater.
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Groundwater is pretty steady.
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Other thing is, it doesn't take
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a whole lot to contaminate
surface water.
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It actually takes quite a bit
to contaminate groundwater.
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Groundwater is always
going to be a safer source
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of water ultimately.
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Certainly, we're going to land
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farming and all that good stuff,
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landfills are always
easy to point out.
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Factories are always bad things,
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but we all like our iPhones
and everything else.
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I point out there's
a seven-mile plume
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of TCE under City of Phoenix.
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Why? Because somehow
City of Phoenix
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wants to make a lot
of transistors,
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but every transistor requires
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170-180 gallons of pure water.
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It's in Phoenix, Arizona.
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Why would we put
this in the tropics
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somewhere where they
actually have lots of water?
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One hundred and eighty
gallons per transistor.
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Now, how many transistors
in your cell phone?
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Every cell phone?
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I mean, just add it up.
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We're talking thousands
of gallons of water
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just to make one phone,
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and it's in Phoenix, Arizona.
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Well, who knows? Some tools
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we use to investigate things.
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We're starting to use
remote sensing a lot more.
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I can't wait to
get my own drone.
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It's like drop bombs and
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ex-girlfriends or
ex-wives, whatever it is.
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But nonetheless,
I want to drone.
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That's cool. We're going to
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our Amazon's going to deliver
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all our packages by drones now.
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You order it in 30 minutes.
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Vile Drone flies at
your front doorstep,
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drops your book,
and off it goes.
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It's going to be cool and it's
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going to be some fun things,
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but we use geophysics.
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Here's some geophysics out in
the beach in Lake Michigan.
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We're looking for
some clay units
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for discharge into
Lake Michigan.
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A lot of computer modeling
is taking place now,
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which is allowing us
to do some things.
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There again, the
problem with it is it's
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only have crappy data.
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You can make a pretty
picture, but if it's
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crappy data, it
doesn't mean much.
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But there's going to be
a lot of advancements
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here over the next decade.
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It's going to be
fun. Like I said,
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the drone thing is something
I'm excited about.
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In fact, I have my own blimp,
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by the way, and I've
had one for 20 years.
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That's how I've been
taking my a photographs.
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Actually, own my own blimp.
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How many people
do you know that?
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How many people in
her own a blimp?
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See? Special. Anyway, hopefully,
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you'll learn something
about basic definitions
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and some water quality
and some other things.
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We went through some things come
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up fast, but nonetheless,
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I want to thank
everybody and thank
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Cal State Fuerts and NGBA
for allowing me to be here,
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and I appreciate everyone's
time and thoughts.
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Any questions? Besides the code?
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Yeah. Any questions? Ahead.
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At a rate that is
going to get collapse.
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Absolutely. We can take
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steps to start
replenishing parts of it.
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But overall, you're probably
not going to gain it back
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unless climate changes again
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and gets rainy,
which can happen.
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It was an old sea to begin with,
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so maybe it comes
back to being that.
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Maybe you can get some
oceanside property there.
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But certainly,
there's things we can
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artificially do to recharge.
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Some of the things people
are doing a lot more.
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What Orange County
does was a gamble.
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We spent $4-5 billion to set up
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this system and
had to go through
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all the EPA and everything
else and it was amazing.
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But then now they've
gotten to the
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point where they've proven
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beyond any reasonable doubt
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and other countries
are modeling this too.
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Singapore. Their whole system
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is designed after Orange County,
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Saudi Arabia, everyone else.
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That is taking the water
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that we use for
whatever purpose.
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I talk about wastewater
and toilet water,
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it's 48 hours from the time
you flush your toilet to
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that water drop being back
in the ground, 48 hours.
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That's going to happen more.
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If we do that,
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ultimately, during
the wet years,
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become sustainable, the
wet years will fill things
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up if you can become
sustainable in the short cycle.
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From farming standpoint,
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we have a lot of
return flow because
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now we're getting
better about it because
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that's one thing farm,
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always over water, because
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more water is to
make it greener.
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Well, isn't always the case.
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The farmers have done a
better job now of managing
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the soil moisture so
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water when the plant
really needs it.
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That's helping sustain
that a little bit,
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and that should help
bring some stuff back.
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But ultimately be more of
this urban water cycle than
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wait for the wet years
to bring back things
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to a bigger fuller situation.
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Other questions? None.
Anybody asleep yet? Yeah.
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Hydrogen make water.
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Yeah. Every time you sweat.
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Like me right now, I got lots
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of H2 underneath modern pits.
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Well, the problem
is economically.
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Comes down to economics, like
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desalinization. We
live in California.
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We've got the world's
largest ocean
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sitting right there,
the Pacific Ocean.
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Why wouldn't we just take
the water from there,
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get rid of the salt,
and use that for
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drinking water? We are.
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The problem is from
a cost standpoint,
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it's well,
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it was about $2,000 an
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acre-foot to treat
desalinated water.
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We could buy water
from anywhere else in
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the country for
about 1,000 or less.
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We stole from the Colorado,
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we steal from San Francisco.
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We can buy Lake Michigan
for cheaper than that.
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Now, Michigan passed a law
that California specifically,
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California can't steal
the water, by the way.
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Why they had to pass a
law for that? Who knows?
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But they did. But now the
desalinization is about $1,000.
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What Orange County is doing is
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about $900 an acre-foot
for its whole system,
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so we're still
cheaper than that.
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Sooner or later, desalization
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price-wise will get down
where it makes sense.
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But from an energy standpoint,
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it is where it's really costs,
-
so just make an H2O,
we can make it.
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We can have hydrogen
cars. Why don't we?
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Because of cost.
It's just over time.
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Worse as we move forward,
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that means there's going to
have to be a cost to water.
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Water is free.
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You only pay for delivery.
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Now, you pay for some
treatment of the water,
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but you're actually
not buying the water.
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You're buying the
delivery of the water.
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Of course, my wife is one
of those people we live in
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the city and she complains
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about the taste of
it all the time.
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I taste the chlorine. Why do
we put chlorine in water?
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Well, it keeps all the
bacteria from killing you.
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It kills all the bacteria.
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Not in their pipes,
not the city's pipes.
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Their pipes are fine.
It's your house.
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Where's the worst spot for
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bacteria for water
at your faucet?
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What's the worst water
you can ever get?
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Take a five-gallon jug down to
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your local grocery store and
that big thing out in front,
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it's attached to a
garden hose, by the way.
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There's tons of bacteria there.
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Yet people are still
sitting there buying
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their five-gallon bottle of
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water because it has to be good.
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It came from the grocery store.
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We pay as much for
water as beer.
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At least beer is distilled
and I get happy over it.
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I need t-shirts, drink
beer, not water.
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To Orange County.
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The reformation process.
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How come Mites
aren't doing that?
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Is that the
cost-effective thing?
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Well, it also depends
on where you're at.
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In Orange County, we have
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four million people
and we're desert.
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We only get 16 inches
of rain a year.
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I made sense for us to
be more of that system.
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If you're in Minnesota, up
until this point in time,
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they had 10,000 lakes.
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There's plenty of water. So
they don't need to do it.
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I mean, Atlanta,
Georgia, I mean,
-
the river that they
ran the Olympics,
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the kayaking, I guess in is dry.
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There's no water in
that river anymore.
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They could not run the Olympics
-
today in Atlanta, Georgia,
-
and it's because they
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dropped they stole
all the water from
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the river and had fights with
-
other states and other
things a lot more to it.
-
But again, they're looking
at recycling stuff.
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It's why Coca-Cola is doing
-
a big push on trying
to water recycling,
-
recycle the plastic bottles.
-
I mean, the same thing holds
-
true for water as for
trash and everything else.
-
I hate to use the word
sustainable because
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99% of the public
-
doesn't even know what
the hell it means.
-
It's a cool word. It's sexy.
-
I can write sustainability
on any grant and get it.
-
It doesn't mean it has anything
to do with sustainable.
-
But when we use 100 gallons of
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water and we don't have to
buy it from anyone else,
-
we are now sustainable.
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It's a cost to that,
but we are not
-
having to borrow water
from anyone else.
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Other questions?
Someone else had one?