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2 3 1 3 Social Mobility and the Examination System in Late Imperial China 2025)

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    So in this lecture, we'll focus on this
    feature of Chinese education identified
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    by Max Weber, the link between social
    mobility and the examination system in
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    late Imperial china.
    Because in Imperial China one of the many
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    gifts of imperial Chinese civilization to
    world civilization is not just paper, gun
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    powder Chinese cuisine, but is a system
    of objective testing, of social service
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    testing.
    Which in the, in the Chinese imperial
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    system provided approximately half of
    these spaces for government position.
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    Approximately half were open to people
    with either heredity or wealth, and
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    approximately half were open to people
    based on examination success.
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    there were let's say three step ladder of
    examinations with the bot-, with the
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    bottom degree being called the the
    Shengyuan or Xiucai Degree, so that of
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    which there are about 500,000 such
    licentiates, about 50,000 Juren or
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    equivalents.
    About one-third are juren the other
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    two-thirds are gongsheng tribute students
    and 4,000 jinshi the effigy of the
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    Chinese examination system.
    who's inscriptions, personal inscriptions
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    still are preserved on stone in Beijing
    and the Beijing Confucian Temple and if
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    you are to visit them you'll see there.
    All 51,000 jinshi of the 13th century til
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    the early 20th century have their names,
    their places of origin, their rank
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    faithfully recorded for the tourists of
    today to admire and to acknowledge.
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    So here you see the pyramid of civil
    service exams and degrees Qing China with
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    a jinshi at the top followed by the juren
    we'll skip tribute students then the
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    licensed, the shengyuan and below them
    the literate, the examination literate
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    students and commoners.
    Often they were in a country of maybe 50
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    million adult males, there were at best 5
    million.
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    So in other words, if there were such 5
    million sort of only examination level
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    educated adults.
    What this means is that for the
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    population as a whole perhaps 1% of all
    adult males might become a Shengyuan, a
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    licentiate.
    But 10% of all ex-, examination level
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    educated adult males could eventually
    aspire to becoming a Shengyuan.
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    perhaps One tenth of a percent of all
    adult males might eventually become a
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    Juren.
    But one percent of examination level
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    educated adult males would eventually
    become a Juren.
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    And perhaps 100th of one percent of all
    adult males might become a Jinshi.
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    But as many as one per thousand of the
    examination level educated adult males
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    would eventually become a Jinshi.
    So in other words sort of if we were to
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    put this, and it's not exactly analogous,
    into sort of contemporary higher
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    education terms.
    The University of California admits
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    approximately 10, 12%.
    Of all sort of high school grads so that
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    would be roughly the level of a
    Shengyuan.
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    the more elite universities would have
    proportions of, instead of 10, instead of
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    10 for 100 we'd be having proportions of
    one for 100, or in the case of the most
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    elite private, one per thousand...
    The first systematic, big, historical,
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    Chinese data collection was not done by
    members of the Lee-Campbell research
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    group but was done by my teacher Ho
    Ping-ti, who did this not in the last
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    sort of decade or two.
    But who did this work over 50 years ago
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    China, The Ladder of Success In late
    Imperial China.
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    And what professor Ho did, he collected
    for almost 40,000 suc-, successful degree
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    holders about the 15,000 Jinshi, about
    23,000 Juren He collected systematic
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    biographical data using either
    examination achievement books called
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    Dengkelu or using sort of government
    curricula vita called Yuli.
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    Or using various other kinds of
    biographical compendia.
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    of these degree holders to get systematic
    information on the social background of
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    the people who pass these various exams.
    More recently, just in the last few
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    years, partly at HKUST, Jian Ching a
    graduate student at HKUST, currently an
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    assistant professor.
    Of history at Shanghai University, Shen
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    Dengmiao, an independent scholar in the
    People's Republic of China.
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    And my co-teacher Byung-ho Lee have
    updated Ho's earlier data with additional
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    information on several thousand Ming
    jinshi and an even larger number Qing
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    juren.
    Now, Ho used these data to document that
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    unlike the west, where most elites
    especially political elites, were
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    hereditary nobles representing at most
    one percent of all people.
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    Half of late imperial Chinese officials
    were chosen by an objective test of their
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    ability as opposed to their birth.
    I'll bet for those families privileged
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    enough to provide at lest their sons an
    examination-level education.
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    In late Imperial China such families
    comprises as many as ten percent of all
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    people.
    And moreover since the alternative ladder
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    of success was through purchase, social
    prestige and political authority were as
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    much the real of the wealthy as the
    capable Rather than the noble.
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    So, rather than one percent, at least say
    ten percent of the entire population.
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    Ten times more people who could rise to
    the top.
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    He divided the population of successful
    degree winners into three categories.
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    To determine whether their family
    background was from more exalted families
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    or more humble families, which he called
    categories a, b, and c.
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    In category a, the most humble, there was
    no degree holder in the patrial line for
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    the last three generations.
    In other words, the successful
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    candidate's father, grandfather, great
    grandfather had passed no degree, not
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    even the ten per hundred.
    And in category B one or more had at
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    least received a Shengyuan degree which
    remember was 10% of examination literate
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    educated adult males.
    And in category C, one or more had
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    achieved a higher degree in the last
    three generations.
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    So, in other words he's asking if we take
    the either all adult males or all
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    examination educated adult males.
    Category A is from the bottom 90%.
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    Category B is from the top 10% of this
    pool.
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    And category C is from the top one or
    even more exalted proportions of this
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    pool.
    And so, the question he asks is, of the
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    people who did, were successful in
    getting the Juren or the Jinshi degree,
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    how many came from families that recently
    had experienced this one per a thousand
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    or one per hundred success rate?
    Or 10 per 100 success rate, or really
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    were from, as defined by his previous
    examinations, success by immediate direct
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    patrilineal relatives, or from relatively
    quote humble, backgrounds.
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    So he did this by taking information from
    sources such as this Ming h, examination
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    record, Dengkulu, of Jinshi candidates.
    And by looking at the kind of information
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    in these, so these data record such
    things as their ranking in the exam,
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    their name whether they specialize in
    the, some particular academic specialty.
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    In this case, the the the five classics
    their birth order, the records of family
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    members, the registered occupational
    status, in this case they comes from,
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    this person comes from a Ryuji, from a
    family of teachers.
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    and then information on their test
    results, the test results of their
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    ancestors and then from this information
    Bing De Ho produced his three categories.
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    So you have examples such, here, as
    Category A, people who had no ancestor
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    who ever held an official position, or
    passed one of the official exams, or they
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    had at least one ancestor who held a in
    this case a a, at least a Juren or a
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    Jinshi exam.
    And he finds other information such as
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    say in this case, the grandfather being
    the subdirector of a Confucian school and
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    so on.
    And he uses this information to go to
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    classify all of his 15,000 Jinshi,
    approximately sort of, to classify them
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    as A, B or C.
    So, what he discovered, which at the it
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    time he came out was quite striking.
    Later on it was sort of modified by the
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    field in terms of the implications of his
    findings.
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    But what he found was, was that if you
    take category A, people who had for the
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    last three generations no one in that top
    10% category, combine and say with
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    category B where they had only one person
    or more, but none of a higher degree.
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    You see that for the, from the 14th
    century up through the early 20th
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    century.
    So for about the 550 years or so, what
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    you'll see is that almost half of the
    people who reach the highest degree came
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    from families.
    That had not had such a similar
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    accomplishment in the last three
    generations.
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    So in other words, this is if we were to
    take the students at Harvard, and we were
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    to say that unlike the contemporary
    Harvard, where many of them are legacy
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    students, that is to say that their
    parents.
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    Their grandparents, their great parents,
    all went to Harvard.
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    in in the past, the majority of students
    had no such background.
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    and while the category C increased over
    time.
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    It only increased from 40 to about 60%.
    Looking at the Juren biographies that the
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    Ho collected.
    He has information, their name records of
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    the family members, their date of birth,
    records of distant kin and their place of
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    residence rank in the provincial exam and
    probably again can do a category A, a
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    category B, a category C, but in this
    case, A is people who had no ancestors, B
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    again is is people who had at least a
    Shungyuen degree, and C is
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    Focusing not so much this time
    necessarily on Jinshi's status but even
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    Juren's status and other kinds of,
    Gongshen attribute student status and so
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    on.
    And then again looking at ABC what
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    Professor Ho shows is that the patterns
    for Juren are roughly similar to the
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    patterns for Gongsheng, in the sense that
    here's looking at the 19th century, 1804
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    to 1910.
    And it can show you that the Category A
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    is usually at least one 5th of the
    successful candidates.
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    In other words there was nobody, even the
    late 19th century, which is sort of
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    represents, as you remember, looking at
    the Gongsheng, the most, the more closed
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    period of Chinese social mobility, even
    during this more closed period, 20% of
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    the Juren degree holders came from
    families where there was no previous
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    degree of any kind.
    Another 20 to 30% came from families that
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    only had a one or, or more people who had
    passed to that 10% level.
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    So, combining again Category A and B, you
    find proportions for the Juren and
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    Juren's students status Gongsheng which
    are roughly similar to the Junshen.
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    So, in every level what you can see is
    that, yes it is true that only people
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    taking the examination literacy could
    even potentially take these exams.
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    So in other words, what we're talking
    about is not social mobility for the
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    population as as whole, we're talking
    about social mobility for that top 10 %
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    before that top 10 %, what we do see is
    that.
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    there is remarkable sort of flow up and
    down, within that larger elite group.
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    And we have to remember that from a
    historical context, to have a potentially
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    sort of a potentially, upwardly mobile
    group of people the 10% is remarkably
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    high compared to say female nobility
    which are you know, less than 1% of the
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    total population in the west.
    so what Professor Ho discovered which was
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    so important is that He was able to
    document using this collection of big
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    data.
    Now, in his case it wasn't done by
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    computer, this was done by hand.
    And he was using these so there's a
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    result his data collection could not be
    sort of put on some kind of online
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    downloadable version.
    it was unfortunately subject really only
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    to for his own use.
    but he was able to discover that China in
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    the past as early as the 14th Century was
    indeed far more mobile than any 14th
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    Century population at the national level
    in what is now the developed world.
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    So over half of all government officials
    in late imperial China were chosen by
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    civil service exams, open to all men
    regardless of economic or social status,
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    and of these people, a significant
    proportion,as Professor Ho showed Came
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    from families, although they may have had
    access to elite education, often through
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    kinship themselves were not elite in
    terms of immediate patrilineal
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    examination success or official position.
    Not just that their own generation or
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    their parent's generation or their
    grandparent's generations, but even of
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    the great grandparent's generation.
    And so while many of these officials are
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    not necessarily from truly humble origins
    in it's absolute term, the contrast with
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    officialdom elsewhere in the world,
    especially premodern and early-modern
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    European states, is quite extreme.
    So in China education and test
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    performance as Weber identified about
    almost a century ago, explain why some
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    rise to the top while others do not.
    It took almost 50 years after Professor
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    Ho for the field to sort of advance.
    On his knowledge and that most the most
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    conspicuous can see an example of such
    achievement is actually by a graduate
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    student at the, the Hong Kong University
    of Science and Technology Jiang Qin who
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    was a PhD just last year in 2012.
    The student of one of my colleagues James
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    Qung.
    Now, what Jiang Qin did I was privileged
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    to sit on his committee was that, he
    under James' direction not from us, I'm
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    ashamed to say.
    He collected similar information to
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    Professor Ho's but did this
    systematically.
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    Did this in a data base which he can in
    the future put online and make it
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    available to the academy at large to
    examine.
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    And using a a collection of examination
    essays put together over a long period of
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    time by the Shanghai library, he was able
    to get the the final examinations and the
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    family background from nearly 12,000
    Jinshi which is about half the total
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    Jinshi during the Qing.
    And from these exam essay data he
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    constructed a representative sample of
    4000 Juren from 18 provinces who pass the
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    provincial exams between 1789 and 1895.
    And in this thesis, he does many
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    calculations, all of which sort of
    elaborate on Professor Ho's findings.
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    I'll just present one here.
    He shows you, for example that, again,
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    contrasting wealth versus ability, that
    ability actually effects the success
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    rate.
    in the Jinshi exam, whereas all things
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    being equal, family wealth does not.
    So if you look at the two sort of figures
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    below he shows you how people who pass
    the exam at a younger age so here really
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    especially below age 20.
    People that have passed the exam at a
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    younger age are far more likely to also
    pass the Jinshi exam.
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    And he also shows that people who scored
    high when they passed the provisional
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    exam are much more likely to be
    successful in achieving the next degree,
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    the Jinshi degree.
    So for example, when you look at figure
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    B, you can see that the,within seven
    years which would be there for, in other
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    words, three attempts at the Jinshi exam,
    the top ten percent candidates in the
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    provincial exam Were almost twice more
    likely than the bottom 10% of successful
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    Juren candidates to achieve the Jinshi
    degree.
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    So one of Jian Qin's important findings
    is that to elaborate on Professor Ho's
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    finding that many of the successful
    candidates came from more humble
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    background and to say that this is
    probably because of the importance
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    actually of cognitive testability on a
    the candidate.
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    So one of the reasons why family
    background mattered less, is because
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    people who were able to, were so smart
    that they're in the top 10% of the
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    distribution or, they are so smart that
    they are able to pass the examination at
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    an especially young age.
    These people are much more likely to
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    become Jinshi as well as Juren.
    So that it's partly this objective test
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    is able to actually identify capture.
    And favor those people with better
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    testing ability.
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