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How does God forgive us? - Sikh Retreat 2016 - Q&A#2

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    how do we ask guruji to tear up our bwa
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    of the badam we do in this
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    lifetime um and then they've already
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    um given some answers but with the
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    answers they've got a question mark So
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    asking like could be could this be the
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    way and then so the asked repent is that
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    one of the ways sa siman and then I've
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    got another question that go goes
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    alongside that um somebody saying that
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    does
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    babaj forgive those who make
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    mistakes even if we still make them okay
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    so I think these two mistake uh mistakes
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    these two questions kind of work
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    together right so just looking at like
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    how does Guru Sai forgive us and um
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    if we try and understand this from the
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    perspective of gbani to start with which
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    so throughout what we all the um answers
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    that we will give we will try our best
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    to use the support of gurbani Cu none
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    this is obviously a SE secret treat so
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    we shouldn't be really giving you our
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    our own opinion of what my M what my
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    intellect thinks that should be um the
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    answer to these so we're going to give
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    be giving you a GMAT perspective from
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    gbani so what does gur say about
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    forgiveness if you look at when Guru sa
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    is talking about Guru Arjun G and in one
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    punti about Guru Arjun it said
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    that
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    aruru and where it's talking about that
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    Guru Arjun G is the boat for us to get
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    across and how does this boat work and
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    this is that
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    umuru s and this boat is open for the
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    whole world so if we look at now in
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    today's world whether it be a ship
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    whether it be an an aerplane and
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    somebody's going to travel there's
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    always restrictions on there and but on
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    this boat to be to get across this world
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    ocean that is full of attachments for us
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    to be saved with within this boat
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    there's not those type of restrictions
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    that we will see in an um in a regular
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    um form of transportation today so to
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    everyone knows here like you know
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    obviously if you're going to be
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    traveling by flight there's a
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    restriction to how much weight you can
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    take with you and everyone gets into a
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    bit of a banga when they're coming back
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    from India cuz there normally few too
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    many suits and stuff you know to come
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    back and then there's a
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    panic and then it's then it's always the
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    issue of you know
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    um and all that kind of stuff but so
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    even then you can go over so much you
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    could probably pay them so much but
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    still they're going to cap it off at
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    some point and then just going to go
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    that's it no more so there's a
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    restriction of how much weight you can
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    take on that plane as well and then
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    there's a restriction to how many people
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    can get onto that plane as well but if
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    you look at what G just created they're
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    saying
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    that that the whole world can get onto
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    this boat of Guru arj and get across
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    this world so how does that work with
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    this whole sin thing number one it
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    doesn't matter what form and what extent
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    of sin we come with to Guru Saj Guru sa
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    is going to not ever going to say to us
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    that you've come with too much luggage
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    you've come with too much baggage too
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    much rate sorry no space for you this
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    always going to be space for us to
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    attach ourself to Guru G and to be saved
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    and to get across so it doesn't gurus is
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    not going to say you know what you've
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    done too many you've made too many
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    mistakes in this lifetime or in your
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    last lifetimes sorry no space for you or
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    Guru arjin devj is never going to say to
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    us when I say Guru arjin Dej referring
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    to gurab so gurus sa is never going to
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    say to us that one particular sin was
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    too big for you to be saved and I'm not
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    letting you on I'm not going to save you
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    I'm not going to forgive
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    you so they're saying this is open to
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    everyone in GB I think it was today or
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    yesterday in one of the H in um it came
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    up the word g came up and the word gilic
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    is basically according to the vids it's
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    four type of bar sins that are done that
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    cannot be forgiven accordingly to the
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    vids and those four bars I can probably
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    remember a couple from the top of my
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    head
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    that's that's if somebody's actually
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    killed a bramman um if somebody's slept
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    with ab's wife and I can't remember the
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    other two so oh go there you go so if
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    somebody's killed a cow can you remember
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    the fourth one oh there you go three is
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    pretty good so there's four bars
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    according to the wordss that cannot be
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    forgiven forgiven in which way though
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    they cannot that you can't do any act
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    there's no P you can do there's no deed
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    you can do to override you have to go
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    through youram so whatever the reaction
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    is from that you have to live um go it
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    can't be taken away but Guru sa said
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    that
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    in remembrance
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    of doesn't matter how many k you've done
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    as well those that the vi say that
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    cannot be forgiven but Guru says yes
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    they can so first of all the first thing
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    to understand to doesn't matter to what
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    extent somebody's done something and it
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    doesn't matter how much somebody has
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    done something of there's still space to
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    be saved Guru saying and then how do we
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    be
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    saved this now works with the question
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    alongside saying like if we continue to
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    make that
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    mistake
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    says they said just like an innocent
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    child is committing millions of sins and
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    faults and messing things up all the
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    time and we can become we are like those
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    innocent children at times meaning we
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    live in ignorance we might be blind or
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    we might know that that what we're doing
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    isn't right but we have no power over
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    what we're doing because we're just so
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    lost in the worldly way or we're just
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    not in control of our senses or of
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    our in any formal way so we just it it's
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    almost like we've become
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    helpless so how does it work so Guru Sai
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    recognizes somebody might be in in that
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    state then this says that but but what
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    does gur do this sayses
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    and then what is saying that once the
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    guru gives you then a teaching and
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    thenes
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    Guru you might even get scolded you
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    might even get shouted at for doing what
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    you've been doing
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    but the guru will still embrace you and
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    say I'll take you in and this is what
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    they'll do
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    is I'll forgive what you've done in the
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    past
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    this is but there's a condition now the
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    condition
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    is but now you've got a vision and
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    you're going to make an effort in not
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    doing that again now so it doesn't mean
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    that you make a game out of it so this
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    whole sense of forgiveness it's not that
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    you're forgiven by doing a particular sa
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    it's not that you're forgiven because
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    you do a particular act it's because
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    you've surrendered and you say to the
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    guru I fall at your feet and I've lost
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    and I need you now and the guru says
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    I'll take you in but now I want you
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    least to have the intention that you're
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    going to make an effort to walk on that
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    straight path now I'm going to help you
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    the guru will say and the help comes
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    from Collective sadut having that
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    support from each other that's why we
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    say and I say this wherever I go and
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    I'll always say in my talks that we
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    should always be iously asking for like
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    for the support
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    that that we get the support from the
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    sad collectively that are going to help
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    us not to not to keep falling so it's
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    about Our intention if we with a Pure
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    Heart full and actually have no
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    intention to do that and we want we
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    truly want help to break away from the
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    sins that we're doing and we've got that
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    Clear Vision that I don't want to do
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    that anymore and we make it relevant an
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    effort and go according to the guru's
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    teaching then yes there's that element
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    of forgiveness and that forgiveness
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    comes from surrendering and from begging
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    the guru for showing us the path forward
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    and then and then Guru will show us the
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    path forward it doesn't mean that if you
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    make that mistake again that there's no
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    chance for you and you won't be forgiven
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    again so you come to the God for example
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    on a Sunday and you say to Guru sa you
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    know what I've been terrible to my wife
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    I've been swearing at her like any thing
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    been bullying her been horrible to her
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    but you know what I want you to forgive
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    me and you think because all right this
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    is how it works cuz he forgives me for
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    everything but in the back of your mind
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    you've got no intention of changing cuz
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    you're just there to get come and clean
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    your slate and then you go back home no
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    intention to
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    change gang everything again the whole
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    week come back next Sunday and say you
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    know what I'm here for just want that
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    clean for myself it doesn't quite work
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    like that so I'm sure everybody gets the
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    gist
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    vururu
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Title:
How does God forgive us? - Sikh Retreat 2016 - Q&A#2
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