PAPAJI - 6th March 1997 (full satsang)

Om

Satchitanand. "Beloved Master Papaji.

"Since discovering myself in your eyes,

"three years ago I have heard this gift

"in Colorado prison, Colorado prisons.

"And also...

"By performing...

"By performing wedding ceremonies.

"By performing

"wedding ceremonies,

"my wedding

"ceremonies

"using Ramana Maharishi's inspired words.

"Thank you again for this.

"Recently, two family members

"have had to...

"to face death.

"This has brought a great opening
of love in our family

"and also some fear.

"I hope these questions will strike off

"at the root of this fear.

"When my body dies, where can I go?

"When my body dies, where can I go?"

When the body dies,
then this question comes from whom?

Even when you sleep,
you don't have a question.

And this death removes all the questions.

So there will be no question of questioning.

When the body dies, everything dies, you see.

And when your body dies, where will you go?

"When my body dies," first of all,
I don't understand this question.

The body is already dead.

Body never lives because it's flesh

and then it will be burnt away.

And the body is always death.
The body is not living,

Something else is living in the body
that is not going to die.

You have to understand this.

Then who are you?

Who are you is the question.

So if I say to you
in answer to this question, I am That,

what will you understand?

In answer to your question is I am That

And I understand.

You can also say,
there is no problem in this.

Yes, there's no problem.

Who am I? Question.

You have never asked this question.

You have never asked this question,
simply you write.

Now you ask this question Who am I,
and wait for the answer.

Who am I?

Put this question to your own self.

Nobody questions this, you see.

So I am glad you have put this question
and wait for the answer.

You look for this question,
follow it till you get the answer.

It may be answered today or never.

So you have to stay
with this question, Who am I?

Since your name is Satchitanand

so you can easily find out the answer of this.

"Dear Papaji, I am leaving for Boulder.

"The search is over.

"Freedom is arrived at,
then I thank you very much,

"because I am returning with great success.
Shola."

Shola

So, I can only say,

if you are returning with this understanding

you can help your friends

and other people in Boulder where you go.

Thank you. Very few people
can go successfully

after visiting this place.

- It's my wife.
- Very good.

"My search is over.

My search is over."

So I'm glad. But people
who are searching something

and when they are married,

everybody says, "Now my search is over."

You told us to get married.

The route is difficult, the route is difficult,

that is written in the geographical books.

It's difficult. But very few people
can arrive at that place.

And as much as they go in,
there is further place,

and nobody has found
the end of this place.

Therefore, thousands of years

the people are trying and trying,

but no one has found
what is the depth of this.

It looks like that it is not very deep,
but it is very deep.

So if you can help him,
because he's a good boy,

you can help him to find the depth.

No one has found the depth of this.

It looks that it is not very deep.

Even the saints have been searching,

but they are not successful.

There are saints sitting here
and they have not found.

- Rajini?
- Rajini.

"Thank you so much for giving me so much

"to say with the question:

"Who am I?

"So this is the question

"I did this yesterday for hours.

"This is my (experience.)

"This is my experience.

"First experience is,
when you told me to find out this.

"And then I tried and I found that

"this deep experience is deep peace
in my mind.

"And hence in between
(a lot) of strong mind attacks."

"A lot of strong mind attacks.

"A lot of strong mind attacks

"and who is also longing and burning fire."

What does it mean?

What does it mean of your experience?

A lot of different things came up.

Peace and mind attacks, they came up.

And now there is silence.

"And may I stay permanently
with this question further."

I think when you find this,

you yourself will like to go further and further,

because it is so peaceful and lovely

that you can't leave it all at once.

You want to keep it with you and follow it.

And where it goes, the more craze

for going further will be in your mind.

So this I can advise,
you carry on till you could do it.

"I am very happy to be here, Papaji,

"for the first time I am very happy here

"and laughing and teaching as you are.

"Rajini. Om namah Shivaya,"

So as you get some new experience
you write to me,

wherever you are.
And you would like to do it.

Good. I am happy.

Where she stays? Where she lives?

She's from Germany.
Where are you staying here?

She's here in Nirmala's Guest House.
And she's from Hamburg.

Gyaneshvar from Spain.

"Beloved Papaji. I have spent
the last 20 years of my life

"caring to improve myself

"with all kind of practices and learnings.

"I have been most of the time
just busy with the non-essential.

"I came to Lucknow because
I did not know what to do with my life.

"I did not know the purpose of my existence.

"Being here with you I have bliss of that,

"that is essential,
and that is to stabilize the peace,

"stabilize the peace,

"that I find in satsang in here in Lucknow,

"in the core of my being.

"I thank you also so much

"so big thief for entering all my dreams

"and leaving me standing naked.

"I never found myself naked before others

"because people did not accept it.

"But I am happy
even when I leave this place,

"I will remove the clothes,

"it gives me, for the first time,
most happiness

"which no place in the world could ever give.

"I thank you so much
for letting my clothes away;

"and drink straight from the bottle.

"Gyaneshvar from Spain."

Gyaneshvar.

Who gave you this name Gyaneshvar?

Osho.

So what did you find out of this knowledge

of removing clothes
and standing naked before everyone?

What did you get out of it?

And what you were holding in the hands
when you were naked?

And how much did you enjoy by holding it?

Did you take Vaseline with you when you... ?

When I enjoy, when I enjoy
somebody's experience,

she doesn't like, she doesn't like.

She's very lucky to have
this kind of experience to read.

In future, you don't take away
this experience from me and throw away,

because the experiencer
is just enjoying myself as I enjoy.

So let both of us enjoy. Don't interfere.

She always interfers.

I hope you excuse for this kind of person.

You can enjoy here, wherever you are.

Only you have to do away with
which your parents have taught,

or this society has taught

to wear the two clothes
which gives trouble.

And when you go
you remove your shirt and pant

and see you are happy.

Everybody is happy
for the first time they see,

because everyone is covering himself,
which I don't like.

Do you agree with me?

Don't be shy, don't be shy.

Everybody shies to give me
the answer of this question.

Okay, yes.

"And now please bless me, bless me,

"remove all

"all kind of obstacles
which I am wearing around my body

"and what obstacles that hinder,

"obstacles that hinder me

"to realize the truth,

"and to recognize my freedom,

"freedom from my bondage,

"from this kind of illusion. Viveka."

This is in your hand
to remove all kind hindrances

to be happy and free.

And that hindrances
to be ashamed of the people

who tell you do this and do that.

You don't listen to anyone.

Only close your eyes and don't think,
wherever you are you,

and you are the happiest person in this world.

Remove everything that
you have been told to do

by your parents and the society,

and find out who you are.

This question must stay with you.

Everybody told you
that you are a young man,

you are a beautiful person.

Not this. This everybody
is going to leave it here.

So you have to find out who am I?

What is my nature?

Where will I return?

These questions you keep up
just for one day only,

and you are a most fortunate person
in this world,

just for 24 hours.

And your name is also Viveka,
to find out the truth,

to find out who am I really.

Not what you are wearing.

Not the body. Not the mind.

So you come prepared
to answer this question tomorrow.

Sanatan.

"Beloved Papaji.

"As every move in this life is predestined,

"if every move in this life is predestined,

"there cannot be
an individual karmic responsibility."

Some say that
this is karmic binding on everyone

that he has to do what is already written,

that he is bound to do this thing
and not to do this thing.

Some people believe in this.

So this is a belief.
Maybe true or not true, I cannot say.

Maybe true for them who believe in it.

May not be true who don't believe in it.

So the proper answer of this question

so far has not been given.

To find out the answer of this,
you can do it yourself.

But if you teach this to others,
they are not going to believe it.

So it should neither be the waking state,
nor the sleeping state.

Neither waking nor dreaming.

So at that time you find out Who am I

and what I am going to do now?

You question to yourself.

Because, first of all,
this time which I tell you,

nobody arrives at this time

and nobody questions at the proper time.

When you are neither sleeping nor awake,

at that time find out who am I?

Just one day you try to do it.

"And so a criminal
cannot be blamed for his crime."

This is a bit difficult question to answer.

Some believe it and some don't believe it.

Some say the crime is committed

because he had to do this crime

at this particular place,
in particular life, in particular time.

He can't avoid it.
And some people don't believe it.

Difficult to say which is correct
and which is incorrect.

There's no truth of what is actually correct.
Is there a truth?

Is there a truth?

What is true?

Truth is neither this,
neither believe nor disbelief.

So you can see, this you speak

only for 8 hours or 10 hours in a day,

when you are in a waking state you can have,
or dreaming state.

And apart from these two states
there is a third state also.

When you are neither dreaming nor sleeping,

at that time you question this, Who am I?

That is going to be a correct answer.

Everybody has got this time to question,

to find out the answer to this question,
Who am I?

Only during that time,
you can have a correct answer, not otherwise.

"And a saint need not be praised,

"a saint need not be praised for his deed."

So this rule has been fixed by people,

if somebody does this
you have to praise him,

and if somebody doesn't,
he should be rejected.

This is fixed by those people.

And this experience may be correct
or may not be correct.

All what we do is correct or not correct,
nobody can say.

This is fixed by the wise people

of that particular religion,
they say this thing.

As the Muslims, when they cut the goat
on a particular date,

he says it's very honorable

and this man will attain the very blissful life,

and some people don't believe it here.

So these rules have been fixed
by the society.

Which is correct and which is incorrect
cannot be said.

Some people, when you like to do this thing

and some people do not like
what somebody is doing.

So this is fixed by this society

according to the circumstances
and place where he lives.

And these rules have not come
from the truth.

Truth has no rules at all.

Which is good and which is bad

is fixed by the society and the men.

Not that it may be true or not true
cannot be said.

"Could you please comment."

Comment, so I have done my comments to you.

- What's the name?
- Sanatan.

Sanatan. Okay, very good.

"Dear Papaji. I don't know who and what I am."

This is the very big question by you.

"Mind watching mind keeps me in a prison.

"Mind watching mind keeps me in a prison.

- "Mind watching... "
- "I don't know who and what I am."

If you speak to people,
"I do not know who and what I am,"

they will think what you are
according to their intellect.

And other people, if you say,
"I do not know,'

if you tell to a saint,
he will appreciate it.

And others will think that
you are something uncommon.

But it's a good question.

"What kind of watching mind
keeps me in a prison?"

If you feel that you are in prison

you will first of all try to get out of it.

But this is a prison which people
like to stay on here.

Nobody wants to leave this prison
and run away from it.

Everybody likes to stay.

He thinks that I am enjoying in this prison.

Finally he will know that it was a mistake

of a person to like the prison.

So better leave this prison.

Leave doesn't mean that
you have to run away from it. Stay in it.

But what is happening,
don't think that it is the truth

that it is truly happening.

So if you know this,
then you are not in the prison.

"Inside, where is both
arrogance and softness inside,

"inside there is both
arrogance and softness."

So it's a good question if you can ask.

"It is soft...
There's both arrogance and softness."

So you have found softness and arrogance.

"I want to deny both."

If you deny both of these,
if it is arrogance or soft,

I think you are a wise man
if you could do it.

But nobody does it.

"My love to do is so impure.

"My love is so impure.

"My love is so impure,
to say I love you would not be true."

If you are not true to say that I love you,

then perhaps you will be put
into much trouble in this life itself

if you don't approve what I say.

First of all, for what I say,
very few people could do it

and those who do it are very lucky person

and they will be happy in the end.

And those who don't listen to me

and don't follow what I say,

the result is that they will be hanged.

They will be hanged. And this is not untrue.

Hanging means that
they will be unhappy now and ever.

You can try one day.

Because I tell everyone that
you are yourself truth itself.

Don't follow what the others say,
"This is the truth." Don't believe.

You have to search the truth here and now,

then you will be happy.

Nobody is happy because they follow

which somebody has told them already,

maybe some guru or somebody else,
they start following.

Therefore, nobody is happy in the world.
So you don't follow.

In the sleep state,
are you happy or not happy?

- Very happy.
- Happy, yeah.

Who told you to be happy like this.
This is your nature.

And don't think of anything

that somebody has told you to do anything

which others are doing,
you are in trouble.

Therefore, don't listen to anyone.

You sleep when others are awake.

As you do in the night,
you can try this in the morning.

What others are doing you don't do.

Just try for one day
and tomorrow you meet again.

"Trust and respect are what I feel for you.

"Trust and respect are what I feel for you.

"Dearest Papaji, can you help me

"to love and surrender to you, to that.

"Thanking you. Namito."

Namito.

What's the meaning of Namito?

Humbleness.

Namito.

If it was Namita,

then it would have been humble, only humble,

And the Namito, because it's a female name,

therefore you call humbly, humbly.

They said no more humbly.
You're humbly and humble.

So numble and numbly.

So very simple grammar.

Namita should have been
when you are masculine.

And the Namito means feminine.

So people who know the grammar,

when you say, "I am Namito,"
they will laugh at you.

Tell them Namita, "I am Namita."

Yeah, that means I have something extra

which the woman don't have.

"Dearest Papaji.

"I request for a moment of silence."

Who is this person?

Peter.

He is in the back there, under Krishna.

It will take time.

"I request for a moment of silence."

Robert Adam?

Robert Adams.

- Peter, no?
- Peter.

- Not here?
- He is in the back row, Papaji.

If you can keep silent just for one minute

and this silence is not only good for Adam,

it is good for everyone, all society,

everybody who lives in this world
and who's not even living,

they will be happy if you can keep quiet
for one second in your life.

So better practice it now, just now,

and you will see nobody's unhappy.

People look unhappy
when you are also unhappy.

In the night when you sleep,

say 10:00 p.m. to morning 5:00 a.m.

who is happy and who's unhappy for you?

Everybody is happy because you are happy.

You are not thinking of anything
or doing anything.

So, you can find this time
of great blessedness now,

and if you don't, you cannot find it.

So always you try to stay in this state,

then you will find nobody is happy,

no one is happy in the world.

And there's no world at all, first of all.

No world, because when you wake up,

the people tell you this is your friend
and this is your wife,

then you listen to them and practice it

and suffer or enjoy whatever they tell you.

It's not your own experience, you see.

So you do your own experience

and don't believe anybody else.

When others are sleeping you wake up.

Everybody in the world is sleeping.

Therefore, you wake up, you see.
You don't worry. Let them sleep.

So this is very simple
but nobody follows the simpleness.

Everybody's following somebody else.

They know that they are going to fall
into the ditch,

even then they are following knowing it

that nobody is happy in the world.

But they are doing the same thing

which gives unhappiness to everybody.

So my dear friend,
what others are doing you don't do.

And don't trouble yourself to find happiness

with these jobs which are
giving them unhappiness.

You stand yourself.
Let them do whatever they want to do.

And don't trouble them
and don't advise them.

Flora.

There's a bad word in Hindi.

In Hindi it is a bad word.

I'm not laughing at you.

I'm laughing at the meaning of your name.

What is this word?

- Flora?
- Flora.

Flora is alright because you did...

If F is silent then it's not good name.

If F is silent, if F is taken away
from the name F,

then only it becomes a bad word.

But with the F, it has saved this word.

She knows but with the meaning
and she's laughing.

Nobody else knows.

"This is my second visit to Lucknow.

"To be the continuation
of the deepest blessing in my life,

"being in your grace which flows.

"My life, at each moment,
of the most unexpected ways,

"in peace, in respect of
whatever needs to take place,

"whatever needs to take place prevails

"slowly erasing doubts

"and quieting the mind

"in deeper silence within is taking over.

"Deeper silence inward is taking over.

"It is infinite spaciousness is stronger

"than the way of the mind and the body.

"I thank you very much, beloved Papaji,

"for constantly reflecting that to me.

"In gratitude can I please sing a song

"with my friend Soma Devi
just now before everybody."

Same one.

(Sings "I Am Sailing.")

Gopi would have liked this.
Where is Gopi?

Good song, no?

Same country?

Again.

Again.

(Sings "I Am Sailing" again)

"Beloved Papaji.
My mind always tricks me

"with all the people in the world.

"And that I wanted to say to you

"about the journey I have had

"in coming back to you

"and the teaching given me along the way.

"But sitting here writing to you
I left everything.

"And the only thing my heart wants to say is

"I'm so happy to be back to meet you Papaji.

"I thank you very much for the teaching

"and thanking you for the journey I had

"and thanking you for bringing
the three of us back to you. Keri."

Keri is male or female?

Both. Keri.

In Hindi Keri is female.
And Kara is male.

Kara, if somebody says.

But therefore, the name,
people generally take the personality

of the person from the world
are from the name.

Anyway, you can sing the song

and from the voice I can check.

Voices of the males are different
and the female is different.

So you have to sing some song

so that people may remove their doubts
because...

No song comes to my mind.

No, no, song will come.

When you sing,
when you sing the song will come.

Otherwise, it will not come.

Generally, the woman,
they don't sing immediately.

They want many people
to request them to sing, then they sing.

So this is my experience so far.

But this not good experience.

[Singing]

Which is his country?

- England.
- England.

He is from England.

And she is 50% England, yes,

she lived for many years in England.

This I can't read.

- From Sangeeta.
- Sangeeta.

His wife Papaji, this is his wife.

- They are from?
- You want her to read it?

He's asking if you want her to read it?

He's asking if you want her to read it?
It's her letter.

- You're English?
- French.

- She's French.
- French.

- And she's English?
- He's French and she's English.

It makes a good... French and English.

Next year?

One month. One month in this year.

Where? Which place?

- Here.
- In this place?

We can make arrangment.
You speak to Bharatmitra

because he has some experience.

And then midwife is there, she's very good.

Okay, you sing.

Because you must always be singing,

the child inside is listening,

therefore don't do anything
which is objectionable.

Child is listening, you may not know,

but I know child is listening
what you speak,

and child knows what you are doing.

So during these nine months
you must be very careful

about what you are doing
and what not you are doing.

Slowly start speaking to the child.

And then shape your child,

what you want him or her to live the life.

Okay, you can sing this song now
to all of us.

- Which song?
- Any song that you are expertised.

Anything that you have been singing.

[Singing]

"Dear Papaji. Thank you so much

"for your infinite dedication
towards our awakening.

"I find myself often reaching towards
the goal of freedom.

"Can you help me to let go.

"With deep appreciation.

"Arina."

Arina or Ariana?

Arina, what is the meaning of Arina?

She was the sun goddess.

Sun goddess, Arina.

- Which language?
- In Sumerian times.

In Sumerian times, in old times,

in the Middle East, Sumerians.

"Goal of freedom.

"Can you help me to let go."

It's very easy to let go of everything,

because when you sleep
everything is gone.

When you are sleeping, everything is gone,

say from 10 p.m. to morning 5 a.m.

nobody's yours
and you don't belong to anybody.

So if you want to live that time, that life,
you can do it now.

Also you did it some hours before,

why can't you do it now?

Don't be attached with any person,

because nobody is going to go with you.

Make that friend which is with you always,

and will follow you wherever you go.

So this is the advice which I give to everyone.

So you can do and if you can do

you will be singing always
the songs of love and peace

and you can give us some songs

so that we will appreciate

that you will be living this kind of life always.

Last time you told me that
you will sing a song,

but then you were overjoyed
in the ecstasy,

so I kept quiet and everybody was quiet

and they postponed for today.

And you have to sing today a beautiful song

which they will hear and close their eyes

and try to find out in that moment
who really they are.

If you open the eyes, you can't do anything,

accept fake love with other people
who will leave you soon.

So make a friendship with that one

who doesn't leave you any time.

So you give us a description of that time

and now itself let us enjoy your song.

- You're from which country?
- United States.

(Singing)

Okay.

Maina.

A beautiful name, Maina.

"May I sing a song for you

"and the family who's present here today?

"And this

"is a German song,

"is a German song of joy

"that the birds who have returned home

"and they sing this song.

"In Germany we always sing
this song in summer time.

"I love you, Papaji. Maina."

Mainavati or Maina alone?

Maina.

(Singing)

"Beloved Master.
May I please play you a song?

"Yours devoted. Ramana."

(Music)

He hasn't come?

(Singing)

Chandi Devi has come?

I will sing her song.

(Singing)

(Singing)

English or Hindi? English?

I haven't played in 14 years.

(Singing)

Can you know what she is speaking?

Not really.