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<Balancing Love
and Discipline for Children>
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(Questioner) Thank you
so much for your time
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and for everybody who asked
thoughtful questions today.
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As a parent, I'm curious,
how do you balance the path
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of detachment and acceptance
while also providing discipline
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to your children in a balanced way?
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(Sunim) When we find ourselves
caught between this or that,
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we must recognize that we've
artificially constructed that choice.
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By recognizing that we have
artificially constructed these binaries,
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I tend to reflect on
what happens in nature.
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In nature, in the ecosystem,
you don't see the artificial constructs
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that we, as human beings,
create for ourselves.
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For example, if you observe a dog,
you will see how the mother
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gives birth to puppies
and naturally nurtures them as they grow.
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Whether the mother dog gave birth
to two, three, or five puppies,
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you never hear her complaining
that five is too much.
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Whether it's five puppies
suckling at her teats at the same time,
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she simply lets them be.
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At the same time you don't see
that mother dog going into
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emotional turmoil over
doing the best for her puppies.
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Also, you don't see the mother dog
abusing her puppies
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just because they sometimes suckle
in a painful way.
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The first lesson we can learn
from this is that,
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as parents, we should not suffer
while raising our kids.
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If you suffer as parents
raising your kids,
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then there's more risk
for your kids to go stray.
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You've become abusive and irritable
towards your children
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because you're trying too hard
to become a good parents.
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The second lesson learned is
that the parents,
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no matter what happens,
never abuse their children.
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The adult dogs may fight each other,
but you don't usually see
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an adult dog or a parents dog
abusing their puppies.
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They don't bite their own kids.
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Sometimes, dogs may do that,
but you can tell it's definitely an outlier,
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likely suffering from
some kind of mental issue.
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As parents, we should never scream,
abuse, or hit our children
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because at that malleable age
you're causing traumas
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that's going to last for a lifetime.
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The third lesson is to do
what you can for your children,
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but don't try to do
what you can't do.
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Basically, you're creating your own issue
by trying to do too much,
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which leads to problems
and make you irritable.
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Providing basic food and shelter
is important,
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but whether you wash your children
once a day, twice a day,
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or three times a day
doesn’t really matter.
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If your child washes once a week,
they'll be totally fine.
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Whether you dress your child in expensive
brand-name clothing for your child or not,
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that’s your choice
and has nothing to do with the child.
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So, do what you can
but the rest you don't have to do.
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(Quetioner) Can I just ask
one follow-up question to that?
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My fear is that by fully accepting
and loving them as they are,
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regardless of their behaviour
because they're two or five.
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I'll be allowing them to have
no sense of discipline.
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So, do we just trust, let it go,
and accept them?
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(Sunom) What are you
really worried about?
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What are you worried about that
your children will become or do?
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They won't be happy because
society won't accept them.
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(Sunim) That will not happen.
That's what your concern is.
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For example, your children
doesn't show up for dinner on time.
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What Korean parents usually do is
call them for dinner once,
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twice, maybe three times
and then yell at them.
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Then if their kids shows up late,
then they prepare fresh food for them.
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Basically, what we're doing is
two things wrong.
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As parents,
we yell and scold them
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which could actually
traumatize them.
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Then, we spoil them by serving
a fresh dinner outside of mealtime.
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All we have to do is tell them it's time
for dinner and that the meal is ready.
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If they don’t show up on time,
simply remove it.
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And if they want to eat later,
just say you're busy
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or tell them to make their own food
if they missed dinner.
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You're not scolding or screaming at them,
you're not traumatizing them.
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The child may get irritable, cry,
or throw a tantrum because they're hungry,
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but that’s a reaction based on
their own personality and emotions,
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not because you yelled at them.
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The child will then learn
to make a choice,
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whether to show up for dinner on time
or make dinner later on his own.
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When you say
it's difficult to raise a child,
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then you know
you're doing something wrong.
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Even if you have three or four children,
it shouldn't be difficult or suffer.
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If it's too much for you
then just don't do it,
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then the children
will raise themselves.
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The worst thing you can do as parents
is you get angry at them.
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You were probable scolded
and yelled at by your parents
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which may have caused a lot of trauma.
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At the same time,
because your parents loved you,
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you owe them a debt of gratitude.
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If you don't like someone,
and they're a stranger,
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all you can do is say goodbye
and walk away.
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When it comes to our parents,
we can’t truly say goodbye to our parents,
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from whom we've received their love.
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But it's not just the grace and gratitude,
but you also have trauma and resentment.
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So, you miss them
when you're not together,
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but once you get together,
you also have that tension.
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This becomes a source of
a lasting tension in our lives.
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Oftentimes this relationship
with our parents is really bad
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and it leads to mental illness.
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Parents become a source of that love,
but also becomes a source of your trauma.
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To your children, just let them be,
do what you can.
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If there're societal rules that you want
to impart to your children as lessons,
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then teach them
and talk to them about it,
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but let them make their own decision
on whether to adhere to those.
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Children need repetition because they
don't learn everything on the first try.
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There's no child walks
perfectly the first time,
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a child learns by falling
and getting back up.
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You should never get irritable or angry
when teaching something to a child.
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If they don't get it the 10th time,
try the 11th time, and beyond.
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Just because they're slow to understand
doesn't mean they lacking anything.
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Some things they'll get on the first try,
while others might take 12 attempts.
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In congclusion, my recommendation
to your question is that
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raise your children
as a dog raises their puppy.
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There is no problem
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because if you're happy as parents,
your children will be happy too.
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If you endure suffering
while raising your children,
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that suffering will be
passed down to them.
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The more you feel you've sacrificed
everything for your children's wellbeing,
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the more they may end up
carrying away trauma from that.
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Do not burden your children.
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Let your children be free from you,
rather than making them your slaves,
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because they are free individuals.
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And as parents,
you're just taking care of them
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when they're young because
they can't take care of themselves.
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(Questioner) Thank you.
(Audience applaud)
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(Sunim) I apologize
for the lateness of the hour.
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I hope this was helpful.
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The Buddha's teaching is
not some specific dogma.
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It's a path that take you from suffering
to being free from suffering.
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That state is called nirvana.
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The goal of your spiritual practice is
to arrive at that state of nirvana.
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It's not about where you go after you die
or how much good karma you gain.
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It’s simply a guide on how to live
your life free from suffering,
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while fully embracing
the present moment.
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Most of us unknowingly use our energy
to create our own suffering.
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Due to the suffering
we've caused ourselves,
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we seek help from others, God,
or through the intercession of the Buddha.
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But if you look at nature,
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even the smallest insect is
independent and autonomous.
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Even rabbits and squirrels,
they live their own lives.
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The only exception is
when they're very young.
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Let's no longer seek help
from the outside.
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I want you to become independent
and autonomous in your own happiness.
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If you stop causing yourself suffering,
you'll have plenty of energy left over.
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And let us take that energy,
channel it,
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and try to help others
who are less fortunate.
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A spiritual practitioner is someone
who finds happiness independently,
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and use any leftover energy
to help others.
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I wish this same freedom for all of you.
Thank you.