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<Sharing About My Experience
of Domestic Violence>
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(Questioner) Good evening, Sunim.
By chance, I came across your Dhama Q&A
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on YouTube and it brought
a sense of relief to my heart.
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I realized that the worries
I had been carrying were
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not as significant as I once thought.
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Now, as a mother of three,
I feel a bit of more at peace.
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About 10 years ago,
I fled to the United States to escape
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domestic violence from my ex husband.
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I chose to marry him because
having no surviving parents or siblings.
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I longed to create a big family
of my own through marriage.
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However, due to the domestic violence,
I ultimately had to end the relationship.
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And now, I live in the United States.
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Although I don't wish to maintain
contact with my children's father,
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given that I have no family of my own.
I actively encourage my children
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to stay connected
with their father's family
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as they are the only blood relatives
my children have.
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Recently, I explained to my eldest child
why we had to leave
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for the United States
without their father.
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After hearing this, my child was
deeply disappointed in him
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and struggled to understand how
he could act as if nothing had happened,
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especially, when we visited
Korea two years ago,
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he offered no apology.
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It seems my child is upset
by this awareness.
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I'm wondering for the sake of my children,
whether I should continue to shield them
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from the full truth or
if being open and honest with my children
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is the right decision.
I would appreciate your guidance.
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(Sunim) Every child wants
their parents to be good people.
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If you think that
your father is a bad person,
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then that affects your self esteem.
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And if somebody else or a stranger,
criticized your dad,
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you still have some excuse.
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You can say
"You don't really know my dad."
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But if my mother criticized my father,
then you can't escape
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because my mother
would not tell me a lie.
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In that sense, it becomes really clear
that my dad is not a good person.
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On the other hand,
imagine if the child thinks
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that their mother is lying,
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then the mother becomes a liar
in her own child's eyes,
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and that makes her the bad person.
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It can causes a psychological issue
and confusion among in the child,
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if the mother and father
criticize each other.
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Whether it is the husband and wife,
no one here is a bad person.
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You each had your own issues.
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There is no problem for you splitting up
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because you chose him as your husband,
then you gave up on him as your husband.
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I think it is better for you to explain
that you divorced him or you left him
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not because he was a bad person,
it was because you could not deal
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with the situation.
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(Questioner) But he is a bad person.
(Audiance/Sumim Laughter)
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(Sunim) If you think that
it's not a good effect on your children.
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Then your child can't escape from the fact
that their dad is a bad person.
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I mean they can accept the fact
that you guys separated as a couple
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because you ere incompatible.
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That is different
from being a bad person.
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The first questioner as well.
You can get divorced,
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but at the same time,
you can maintain that respect
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as co-parents of the same children.
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Because your problem is
a problem between two adults.
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It's not a problem for the children.
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So, that responsibility should remain
with the adults.
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It should not be handed down
to your children.
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Perhaps you feel a sense of possessiveness
or ownership over your children
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because they are your children.
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May be you have
this subconscious perspective
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that you think their father is bad,
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therefore, your children
should also think their father is bad.
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That means you are not recognizing
your children as independent agents.
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But your children are
independent agencies.
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As a parent,
you want to help them grow up right.
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The children do not exist for me.
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I exist for the children.
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If the children are better off with me,
no matter what challenges I face,
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I should keep the children with me.
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If the children are better off
with a father or somebody else,
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then no matter how pained you are,
how much you may miss your children,
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you should let them go.
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In other words, your children are
not your pet or your possessions.
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They are independent agencies,
and you're there in your role as a parent
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is to help them grow
into independent adults.
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So, when you discuss custody and
other issues related to divorce,
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you are not putting the children
in the centre.
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You are negotiating
the rights of parents among each other.
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I don't think that helps
with the children.
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(Questioner) Actually, my question was,
should I be open with my kids
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what happened in the past in Korea.
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When I shared with my son,
he was struggling to know the truth.
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So, my question was, should I be open
and honest with my children
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or, just like you said,
be a good parent and covering things up.
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(Sunim) You insist that
what you said about the past is true
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that you left him in that situation is
the truth of the situation.
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But even that is
just merely your perspective.
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Because if you approach that story
from the perspective that
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he is a bad person,
you are already making a value judgment
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and you are relaying that story
from a self-centred perspective.
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That is actually worse
than not saying anything at all.
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But if you can remove that emotion
or that value judgment from that story,
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then I think you can be transparent
with your children about why you left.
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I think your son was in shock
and had a hard time dealing with this
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because the lesson he learned
from that story was
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that his dad was a bad person.
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If you feel like your ex-husband is
a bad person, no better than an animal,
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then your child becomes
the son of a beast.
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(Questioner) I'm sorry,
I don't understand and I don't agree.
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(Sunim) Basically if you say
your ex is a bad person,
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your children become
children of a bad person.
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(Questioner) They are different.
My son is not my ex-husband.
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I mean Sunim said if I describe
my ex-husband as a bad person,
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that means my son is
the blood of my ex-husband, right?
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But I don't agree,
because my children will blame me
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for leaving their father behind in Korea
and I brought them without him.
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(Sunim) If you have no choice
but to tell your children
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that their father was a bad person.
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I think it is better not to say that.
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And say, "You are my children."
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"I don't know who the dad is."
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"I will tell you about your dad
when you grow up"
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It is your choice.
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(Questioner) My son got hurt,
two years ago, when we visited Korea
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and my ex-husband acted like
nothing had happened.
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He didn't even apologize
and that's why my son got really hurt.
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I'm a survivor of domestic violence.
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If I were still in Korea,
I would be died by him.
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(Sunim) The fact that
your husband hits you,
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it means that he is a criminal,
he is a violent criminal.
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He should be reported
and be forced to face justice.
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But, nevertheless, even if he's in prison,
you should go see him
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because he is still your husband.
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(Questioner) I already did,
15 years ago in Korea.
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But the police said it was a family matter,
so they didn't help me.
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That's why I had to escape from there.
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(Sunim) Whether it is your husband,
whether it is your parents,
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whether it is even your own children,
if they lash out in violence,
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that is a crime.
So, they become criminals.
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They may be criminals
but they are still your husband,
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your parents or your children.
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But if they are my relatives, we tend
to want to cover up even their crimes.
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And by doing so,
we harm the cause of social justice
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and make a bad situation even worse.
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So, no matter who it is,
if they have gone against the law,
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they should face justice.
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But whatever crimes they committed,
they are still your husband,
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your parents or your children.
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My friend might have committed a crime,
he is a criminal now,
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but he is still my friend.
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That is a way for them,
after paying for their crimes,
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to come back, rebuild their lives,
and be with their families again.
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According to your perspective,
a person who has committed a crime once
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should be shut out
from the society forever.
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If your ex-husband hit you, raped you
or committed other violence upon you,
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then he should be facing the justice.
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But just because he committed a crime
does not necessarily mean
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you have to hate him.
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That Is why we can't solve this problem
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because hatred is really self suffering.
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That is why, even now,
you are still not free from that person.
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You can truly only liberate yourself
from that person once you stop hating.
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You might think
that your hatred is justified.
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It is a wise reaction to have to
what you suffered,
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but it is an action that actually brings
upon your own suffering.
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(Questioner) Thank you.
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(Sunim) Then you have no choice
but to continue to suffer.
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Please, do you want to share
your experience?
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(Audiance1) I heard that
she needs to think about the kids.
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Because I had the same situation
when I got divorced.
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My children were
2 and 8 years old at that time.
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I constantly talked with my friends
telling them how bad my ex-husband was,
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but I didn't realize that
my kids hear everything
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and they suffered too much.
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But they didn't look like
they were suffering.
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They were excellent kids,
they went to college and have degrees.
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But when my older son started his family,
everything went down.
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And now, my both kids are
with psychiatrics
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because they were with drugs and alcohol
at the adult age.
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All because they were suffered
by the words they heard from me.
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And I hope she realized
that this is important.
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She need to stop saying something bad
about their parents
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because the kids lost their self esteem
and destroy their lives.
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(Sunim) I think you need some more time,
maybe to be more self reflective
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about your actions.
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If you discover later on that
you've actually passed your own suffering
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down to your children
and allowed it to amplify itself,
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you will be left with deep regrets
at that time.
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Just because you suffer
doesn't mean your children has to.
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No matter what kind of suffering
you face,
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you should handle it at your level
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and prevent it
from being passed down to your children.
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But because we are all foolish,
we tend to inherit our parents' suffering
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and then pass that down
to our own children.