PAPAJI - 28th January 1997 (full satsang)

Om

"Dear Papaji, Please give me a new name.

"Thomas is,

"is often

"associated with doubt.

"And I have, I have been now..."

What is that?
"I have seen..."

Yeah, "I have seen."

"...seen now I can confuse and,

"and hurt myself."

- Osho?
- Osho.

"Osho told me.

"Osho told me that
Thomas means

"Seeker of Truth.

"Here on your,

- "on your...
- In your presence.

- "in your presence, this week...
- The seeker.

"and...

The seeker no longer serves me.

"I wish to relax into my being
and enjoy that which,

"which never comes,

"comes and goes,

"which, through your grace and,
and the self...

Inquiry.

"...self-inquiry I have been, I have...

- Seen.
- "...seen to be my true nature.

"Papaji, please release me

"from this,

"from this burden,

"and give me,

"give me an

- "supportive...
- Appropriate. Appropriate.

- "...suporting name to, to

- "now walk, walk...
- With. With.

"...with Master.

"And now

"this, this...

I bow to your wisdom, compassion.

There's the name Devraj too.

Papaji, I ask you to help me relieve
myself of the doubt that it's wrong....

- I, I, I ask you... Speak to her?
- You speak to him.

Papaji, I'm asking you if this
doubt my name carried before,

to release me of... releave me of that,
and giving me a new name.

Okay.

Too much is burden.
The past is finished.

And what I say is 'the seeker' in your
presence is just an old, old habit seeking.

And you've shown me already
the end, and it's just going on. So,

for this I'm asking you a new name.

I'll give you a name,
which has no identity at all.

- Devraj.
- Yes.

- Today 20?
- Two eight. 28.

- One. 97.
- Chalo.

Ashok. Having no worry
at all about anything.

"Dear, dear Papaji,

"I feel

"I feel great, great confusion in my life.

- "Love...
- You said.

You said that we have to go alone.

"You said that you go,

"to go alone,

"to go alone for freedom.

"I am afraid of going alone.

"No, no such, no...

- "So much of these,

- "of the...
- Loneliness.

"...loneliness.

"Will you please...

Will you please be there for me?
Will you please be there for me?

"...be there for me?

"I will be there for...

Will I be there for me?

- "I have to be...
- Free.

- Free.
- "...free."

- Who is it?
- Enat, Enat.

Enat.

You have to be alone,
to be happy and free.

All day you are busy with so many things.

Then you go to sleep.

There you are alone and enjoy
for at least eight to ten hours.

Why do you sleep if
you are enjoying here?

It means freedom is in loneliness.

You can be here and still alone.

Then you can enjoy this world also and
everything of this world,

including yourself and
friends and relations.

But if you have this with,
"This is mine and I have to get other,

"tomorrow, day after tomorrow,"

then you are suffering.

So try to be alone all the time,

even with your friends and relations.

And this trick you have to
learn from the teacher.

And all the rest relations are only
eating you up and spoiling you.

I know that.
I know that.

You know that then,.
That's why you have come here.

If you were happy you would
not have come here, you see.

Yes.

Thank you.

This is paining.

- The heel is paining. Remove this.
- This one?

The heel

"Dearest Papaji, This is my last satsang
before returning to England.

"I hope the fact that I feel my,
my spiritual roots are Western,

"and

- "and...
- Christian. Christian.

"...and roots are Western and Christian,

- "and not, not...
- Eastern.

"...not Eastern, or Hindus,

- Will not detract.
- "will not...

Detract.

- Heh?
- Detract.

"...will not detract.

- "I am able to, to...
- Receive you.

- "...receive...
- From you.

"...from you.

"May I sing you another
little song?

"Serge."

How you can sing a song and when you are
divided with so many things?

You have to be free and alone.

Then only you can sing
and others can enjoy.

What do you mean that you are Western,

Western and,

- Christian.
- and Christian?

What is the meaning of Christian?

That you belong to somebody who died.

Yes. And you are still following him.

Why don't you live with the man who's ever
alive and living and tell you, you are,

you don't belong to me
and you don't belong to any religion,

and you don't belong to any God?

You must follow that man.
Then you will be happy.

What do you mean by, "I am Christian?"

Christ is dead, 2000 years now.

And you are following a man
who is dead, you see.

And you will also die like him.

So this religion is given by the people
who are doing some business,

some kind of business, you see.

Even, even during his life
nobody followed him.

Five people were there only.

Only five people were there and
they also left him every time.

When he was suffering nobody
helped him, you see?

So it is better to be free,
and don't follow anyone

and follow something
which cannot be followed.

Close your eyes,
and close your ears,

and then see who's that
person who can help you.

Anyway, you are offered to sing a song.

Who is, listen to the song. and who will
enjoy when somebody is suffering and singing?

It's a good song to say,
"I am free.

"I don't belong to any
religion and anybody."

Then you sing a song.

Everybody will follow and
everybody will be happy.

So since you have offered
to sing a song, all...

Okay, you can sing but what
happened to your right knee?

What is this?

It split out of my jeans.

It split out of my jeans.
It split out of my jeans, he says.

Out of your...

And it will go slowly,
it will go up, you see.

This hole will slowly go up, you see?

Okay.

- I will try to sing from that space.
- Yes. Okay.

I will try to sing from that space.

From this place?

Chalo.

I've been scrambled by your grace.

That's blown my logical mind away.

I've been scrambled by your grace.

It is all being blown away.

Forgot.

I'm so grateful for your presence, Papaji.

Bless you, Papaji.

- That's all?
- What?

That's all?

It's such a big song on the big...

I will try one more verse.

I can't.
Thank you, Papaji.

"This is the echo.

- Sicko or what?
- Echo, yes. It is the echo.

"This is the echo in the,
in the cave of my heart.

"The soundless sound.

"I am that.

"Creative, luminous,

"ever-hanging, unborn,

"absorbing on presence."

Okay.

"I am that which is not.

"The, the sightless sight
in the cave of the heart.

"Here and there I am.

"Beloved Papaji, I thank you very
much for all you took off my,

"took off my shoulders,
so I can dance aptly in silence.

"Being here now in this auspicious moment,

"I'd like to ask you for a new name.

"Having seen, having been called,

"called..."

- Burr?
- Bear.

- Called Burr?
- Bear. Bear.

Bear is not...

- The spelling of the bear is correct?
- No, it's not correct.

Bear.

"For almost half, half my life,

"which means, courageous and,

"and endurant

- "is a...
- As a bear.

- "...as a bear.
- Yes.

"Please give me another name
from knowledge of Self.

"With loving gratitude."

- So it this?
- Bear.

- Bear.
- Lucknow.

Lucknow 28.

- Bear means?
- Courageous?

- Bear.
- Like a bear.

- Ah. Bears are very courageous?
- Yes.

Okay. Where to write?

- Eight.
- 28. Two, eight. Eight.

- Eight?
- Yes. One, ninety-seven.

Chalo.

Chalo.

This is your name.

Read it.

- Madhukar.
- Yes.

- Sweet like honey.
- Yeah, honey.

Beloved

Yes. And you will see now,
how people will jump on you.

Madhukar.
Yes. Sweet. Honey.

Honey-like.

This is? What is this?

"Dear Papaji, thank you for

- "for..." moving?
- Having heard.

- For having?
- Heard.

"...having heard..."

It's difficult to read.

My deep longing heart.

"...my deep longing for...

- Longing heart.
- "...and..."

- And made me come here.
- And made me?

- Come here.
- "...made me come here.

"Please help me.

"Only one..."

Please help me surrender.

Only?

- As only one thing matters.
- "...matters.

Which is to know who I truly am.

- "I would be...
- Very happy.

"...very happy if you give me

"a name."

What is this?
What's smelling?

Maybe the flowers?

Ah. Yeah.

You got some?
She got some smell?

She got some smell, yes.

Some scent?

Okay.

She got the smell.
She got the smell.

Smell?

It's written here:
'Smell of soma plant.'

- Like?
- Smell of soma plant.

Smelling.

Chalo.

Give her this name,

Read it.

You can read. You yes.

- You have to read and tell.
- Soma.

There. Yeah.

Soma. Moonlight.

Moonlight face and...

Beautiful face and sweet like honey.

- Yes.
- Soma.

And cheeks not like...
cheeks like potatoes?

- She's beautiful.
- Beautiful.

- She is from which country?
- From which country you are?

She doesn't know!
She doesn't know. She forgot.

She totally forgot. She forgot!

Italy? Italy?

She forgot.
She forgot.

Chalo. (Let's go.)

"I live in Boulder and,

- "and help...

- Mail video?
- Gangaji's videos.

Right. Read it now.

"...and help mail Gangaji's videos
to different cities in America.

- To different cities in America.
- Chalo.

"I want to ask you about
a dream I had about you.

"In my dream you and I were married."

The dreams all come true, you see?

Okay.

"We lived in one room.

"We lived in one room and it was dark."

- It was?
- Dark. Dark.

"You decided,
you decided to leave me."

- To?
- Leave me.

- Leave?
- Leave me.

"I bursted out in a deep cry, as you walked
out, taking no possessions,

"and I thought, 'Now I have to do
it myself; awaken myself.'

"What do you think this dream means?"

- Mean?
- What does it mean?

"And is it possible for you
to give me a new name?"

- What's her name, Dona?
- Dona.

Dona.

Dona is...

I was in some country there,
one girl had this name, Dona.

And I asked her, what is the meaning?

She said, "Beloved.

"Beloved and easily available."

Dona. Yes.

Dona.

Knowledge

Write down here this name which I am
going to give is, which means knowledge,

and another name of Goddess Durga.

Always happy.

Chalo.

Write down the word.

Vidya. Vidya.

Okay, give it to her.

Vidya? Vidya?

Thank you.

No 'I' after 'D.'

She says, "No 'I' after 'D."

She says, "No 'I' after 'D'."
Like this: Vidya.

Yes, yes, Vidya.

- Papaji?
- Okay.

- You want to sing?
- Yes. Yes.

- Okay.
- No!

What do you think the dream means?

- Dream?
- Dream.

When she thought that
she was married to you.

What time she had a dream?

It was this last summer,
during the summer.

During last summer.

- Summer. Summer.
- Last summer.

- And time?
- What time?

- At night.
- Whole night, whole night.

Whole night so...

This dream is a true dream.

It is going to happen.
It is very true.

You can't dream otherwise. You have
not seen me, and you are having dream.

So it is going to be a true dream.

And you will know, at that time I will
tell you.

Today, tomorrow, doesn't mean anything.

And this time, when you have dream,
it's not a time at all.

It is beyond time,
where I and you will always meet.

And then you will know that
we are the same person.

Yes. Okay.

There's something here.
Something.

My eyes are...

Chalo.

What is name?

Reinhild.
Reinhild.

"I am leaving today, and,

"and with you.

"I trust.

- "I want to...
- Thank you.

"I want to thank you
for your presence.

Somehow.

"Somehow I feel that you are,

"you are the light.

"Although I don't really...

- Understand it.
- "...understand it.

"Before I go,

"before I go now,

"I also want to, to ask you,

"if you,

"if you are,

"if you give me,

- "give...
- Me.

"...give me

"real idea, who I am,

"and know that it becomes,

"it becomes more near to that.

"It is, it is that, that...

"fail...

- That what I am searching.
- "That what I am searching."

I tell you how you will know
who you are in reality.

Just now you can see
what you are in reality.

First of all,

close your eyes,

and secondly,

close your mind.

Don't think of the past, present,
and future.

And then you will know who,
who really you are.

Smog...

You have to tell me now.

There's nothing,

- Nothing. There's nothing.
- Ah yes. That is correct.

You are always that, you see.

You are always that.

But somehow, somebody has told you,
'You are my daughter,' and 'You are my wife'

and you have listened to him,
you have become that,

and spoiled yourself.

You are not woman, not man.

You are God itself.

Therefore, nobody has told you, before.
Therefore you ignored it.

So tell, 'I am God myself,
I don't need anything else.'

'I am happiness. I am silence.
I am not born.'

So this is the trick to be always happy.

But nobody tells.

When you are born, the mother
is happy, 'She is my daughter.'

And when you are married,
the husband is happy, 'She is my wife.'

So everybody want to possess you
for their own use, to enjoy.

Not that, you see.

So you are that, which has no body,

and which cannot be enjoyed,
which is enjoyment itself, you see.

So this is the trick, which
nobody has told you before.

Okay.

Chalo. Chalo.

"Dear Papaji,

"I don't know what to say,

"but,

- "but...
- Feeling.

- Feeling?
- Yes.

"...but feeling that gratitude today.

"I am,

"I am going to,

- "to the...
- North.

"to the North and ask you for
a new name to carry with me.

"Thank you, Papaji.

- "Su..."
- Suzanne. Suzanne.

- Suzanne.
- Suzanna. She is French?

From Switzerland.
Switzerland.

Susanna. Because I know one girl was,
she was coming to me, my...

Susanna was her name, was there.
Country there.

Switzerland.

- Suzanna her name?
- Her name is Suzanne.

Sushma.

Beautiful.

Honest spell...
Spelling of honest?

N. N.
N-E-S-T.

Give it to her.

What name?

Sushma. Sushma.

Sushma.

Sushma, yes.

- Her name was?
- Suzanne.

Suzanne, must have this
name then: Sushma.

- Beautiful.
- Beautiful. Loving. Honest.

Honest, yeah.

Sushma. Suzanna. They are
very close to each other.

"I am leaving Lucknow in, in two days.

"And tomorrow, Wednesday,

"is my birthday.

"I would like to know
if I can come with my...

- Husband.
- "...with my husband and...

- Children?
- Children, yeah.

- Heh?
- Children.

"...children to have lunch
with you tomorrow.

"Can I sing a song for you?

Today, or at the same time?

- Today and tomorrow.
- "Today and tomorrow."

So, how many people will come?

How many people will you have?

They are four on their side.

- Five.
- Five.

Five people. But here we are
about at that time... What time?

Here we are at least 30,
40 people for lunch.

If you bring all, for all of them, it will be nice,

otherwise at least for, at least for...

30 people you have to bring; our 30 people, because
when you eat somewhere, you eat together, isn't it?

So, what are you going to bring with you?

Or you can arrange. There is,

there is somebody here.
He can. He can arrange, if you like.

So, you can give order to, to him.

He makes very good food also.

Very good food.

And money also he doesn't care,
but you have to give advance money.

[off mic] He makes [indecipherable]...

He is very faithful man.

So, you give, then he will
show you our place also.

And he will, he will come himself
also to help you in eating.

- What's her name?
- Cecilia. Cecilia.

- Cecilia.
- Cecilia.

- She is the wife of Yogi.
- Yogi. I see. Yes.

Then it's all right to say.

- Papaji?
- Yes.

She want to sing?

Today or tomorrow, as you like.

Tomorrow will be good.
You said at that time.

- Who's this?
- This is Patty.

Patty.

"I love you.

- "Have you...
- Thank you.

"Thank you for loving me
enough to help me.

Love. Truth.

"Will you, will you kiss me?"

Yes. Yes.
Will you kiss me?

Will you kiss me with your grace?

- With your?
- Grace. Grace. Grace.

What? Grace?

- Grace.
- Okay.

"And my giving one...

- By giving me a new name.
- Oh new name, also.

"I, I would like to...

- Share your grace.
- "...share your grace with...

- Everyone.
- "..with.everyone...

Who speaks my name.

- Who?
- Who speaks my name.

- Ah. "...who speaks my name."

What does it mean?
Who will speak the name?

Whoever will speak her name will be
sharing your grace.

Okay.

- This is how you write this: Priya?
- Yes, Papaji.

Yes.

Beloved. Priya.

- Date?
- Eight.

Eight. One. Nine-seven.

What is this name?

Priya?

Beloved. Lovely.

Priya.

Who's name was Priya?
I just remember.

Who's name was Priya?

She's in Arunachala now, Papaji.

She's in Arunachala.

One girl, Priya, was here.

She's from Chile.
She went to Arunachala,

and she will come after
one or two weeks.

Okay. Arunachala?

- I'm going to Arunachala tomorrow.
- Okay

Friday too, so I'll see her.
And I'll be back. Thank you.

"Dear Papaji, by your grace I have,

"I have been...

Embraced.
Embraced.

"...I have been embraced and

"taken into the...

- Hearts.
- "...into the...

- Hearts.
- Hearts?

- Hearts.
- "...hearts of many people.

- "here in...
- Lucknow.

"...here in Lucknow.

"The, the family I live.

"live with

- "meet...
- Treats me.

- Treat me.
- "...treats me...

- As a family member.
- "...as a family member."

Where you are staying?

At Ravindra Saxonah's House.
Not far from here.

- I didn't understand the name.
- Ravindra Saxonah's home.

Ravindra Saxonah's home.
Ravindra Saxonah's.

An Indian name.

- You stay with Indian family?
- Yes.

Chalo.Then. A sector.

- It's on A sector. [in Indira Nagar]
- A sector.

- This is a doctor.
- "He's a doctor and treats me like...

For no money.
Treats me for no money.

"A doctor is treating me for no money.

"I lay these beautiful people at your feet
and ask that you bless them."

- Okay.
- "My heart is full of love for you, for all.

"I'm very happy, dear Papaji.
It is very good to be here.

"May I have a name from you.
Thank you, Father."

- What's her name?
- Catherine.

- Catherine?
- Catherine.

Lovely.

- What's this...?
- Lovely.

- Spelling?
- E-L-Y.

L-Y.

- Two, eight.
- Date?

Eight. One, nine, seven.

Nine, seven.

What is this name?

- Prema. Prema?
- Yes.

Have you heard this name before? No.

"Dear Papaji, since one and a half month,

"I am here in Lucknow.

"I left Italy to meet you...

- Carrying.
- "...carrying all my hopes...

- Hopes. All my hopes.
- "...all my hopes in the...

- Travel bag.
- "... in the bag...

- In the travel bag.
- "...in the travelling bag.

"I am very happy to be here and, and like...

- Silent.
- "...I like silence here at your feet.

"I am very happy here for the first time,
but every, but every...

- Day. Day. Every day.
- "...every day...

Grows in me.
Grows. Grows in me.

"...grows in me the,

- "the...
- Desire.

- "...desire to come,
come close to you all the day.

"I believe that you have, you have...

Can throw. Can throw.
Throw the bridge.

- Know?
- Throw. T-H-R-O-W, throw.

Throw.

"throw the...?

- Bridge. Bridge.

"...bridge that goes from...

- "from...?
- Words. From words.

- From words into silence.
- "Roars into silence.

"And from,

- "from...
- I am at that point.

"I am that, at that point. There...

- Where words and concepts.
- "...and concepts there...

- Are not sufficient anymore.
- ...not sufficient...

- Anymore.
- "...anymore."

Read it, I can't read.

"Questions seem inadequate.

"My identification with the body and its
thousand troubles doesn't give an inch.

"I am tired to think about what I should
or should not do.

"And even the thought that there is nothing
I have or can do, is just a thought.

"Papa, let myself go into your grace.

"Laura."
Laura.

- What? Laura?
- Laura.

Laura?

- Laura?
- Laura.

- Laura. Laura.
- Laura.

- I am translating for her.
- She is translating.

- She is translating.
- Yes. Yes.

You may not have translators.
So let her translate, so they give...

What is it?

Chalo. Let her translate.
I will see next.

Chalo.

Translate what she has written in English
so that everybody has not understood.

So you speak there.

Give her this letter.

[Hindi]

- Chalo.
- She doesn't want words anymore.

She doesn't want words anymore.

And she just wants to disappear.

She translates beautifully.

So, this I can see.

"I am so much beautiful that everybody who
looks at me, follows me.

"And I am such a holy person in my life.

"And this life attracts many other people
and they also become holy.

"And so much, and so much I,

"I..."

- I?
- Gopika.

- Gopika!
- Gopika!

- And this?
- Very short note.

Short note.

- Who?
- "Thank you, Vithal."

Vithal.

Vithay. Yes.

Chalo.

[Hindi)

I go to bathroom.