-
Om
-
"Dear Papaji, Please give me a new name.
-
"Thomas is,
-
"is often
-
"associated with doubt.
-
"And I have, I have been now..."
-
What is that?
"I have seen..."
-
Yeah, "I have seen."
-
"...seen now I can confuse and,
-
"and hurt myself."
-
- Osho?
- Osho.
-
"Osho told me.
-
"Osho told me that
Thomas means
-
"Seeker of Truth.
-
"Here on your,
-
- "on your...
- In your presence.
-
- "in your presence, this week...
- The seeker.
-
"and...
-
The seeker no longer serves me.
-
"I wish to relax into my being
and enjoy that which,
-
"which never comes,
-
"comes and goes,
-
"which, through your grace and,
and the self...
-
Inquiry.
-
"...self-inquiry I have been, I have...
-
- Seen.
- "...seen to be my true nature.
-
"Papaji, please release me
-
"from this,
-
"from this burden,
-
"and give me,
-
"give me an
-
- "supportive...
- Appropriate. Appropriate.
-
- "...suporting name to, to
-
- "now walk, walk...
- With. With.
-
"...with Master.
-
"And now
-
"this, this...
-
I bow to your wisdom, compassion.
-
There's the name Devraj too.
-
Papaji, I ask you to help me relieve
myself of the doubt that it's wrong....
-
- I, I, I ask you... Speak to her?
- You speak to him.
-
Papaji, I'm asking you if this
doubt my name carried before,
-
to release me of... releave me of that,
and giving me a new name.
-
Okay.
-
Too much is burden.
The past is finished.
-
And what I say is 'the seeker' in your
presence is just an old, old habit seeking.
-
And you've shown me already
the end, and it's just going on. So,
-
for this I'm asking you a new name.
-
I'll give you a name,
which has no identity at all.
-
- Devraj.
- Yes.
-
- Today 20?
- Two eight. 28.
-
- One. 97.
- Chalo.
-
Ashok. Having no worry
at all about anything.
-
"Dear, dear Papaji,
-
"I feel
-
"I feel great, great confusion in my life.
-
- "Love...
- You said.
-
You said that we have to go alone.
-
"You said that you go,
-
"to go alone,
-
"to go alone for freedom.
-
"I am afraid of going alone.
-
"No, no such, no...
-
- "So much of these,
-
- "of the...
- Loneliness.
-
"...loneliness.
-
"Will you please...
-
Will you please be there for me?
Will you please be there for me?
-
"...be there for me?
-
"I will be there for...
-
Will I be there for me?
-
- "I have to be...
- Free.
-
- Free.
- "...free."
-
- Who is it?
- Enat, Enat.
-
Enat.
-
You have to be alone,
to be happy and free.
-
All day you are busy with so many things.
-
Then you go to sleep.
-
There you are alone and enjoy
for at least eight to ten hours.
-
Why do you sleep if
you are enjoying here?
-
It means freedom is in loneliness.
-
You can be here and still alone.
-
Then you can enjoy this world also and
everything of this world,
-
including yourself and
friends and relations.
-
But if you have this with,
"This is mine and I have to get other,
-
"tomorrow, day after tomorrow,"
-
then you are suffering.
-
So try to be alone all the time,
-
even with your friends and relations.
-
And this trick you have to
learn from the teacher.
-
And all the rest relations are only
eating you up and spoiling you.
-
I know that.
I know that.
-
You know that then,.
That's why you have come here.
-
If you were happy you would
not have come here, you see.
-
Yes.
-
Thank you.
-
This is paining.
-
- The heel is paining. Remove this.
- This one?
-
The heel
-
"Dearest Papaji, This is my last satsang
before returning to England.
-
"I hope the fact that I feel my,
my spiritual roots are Western,
-
"and
-
- "and...
- Christian. Christian.
-
"...and roots are Western and Christian,
-
- "and not, not...
- Eastern.
-
"...not Eastern, or Hindus,
-
- Will not detract.
- "will not...
-
Detract.
-
- Heh?
- Detract.
-
"...will not detract.
-
- "I am able to, to...
- Receive you.
-
- "...receive...
- From you.
-
"...from you.
-
"May I sing you another
little song?
-
"Serge."
-
How you can sing a song and when you are
divided with so many things?
-
You have to be free and alone.
-
Then only you can sing
and others can enjoy.
-
What do you mean that you are Western,
-
Western and,
-
- Christian.
- and Christian?
-
What is the meaning of Christian?
-
That you belong to somebody who died.
-
Yes. And you are still following him.
-
Why don't you live with the man who's ever
alive and living and tell you, you are,
-
you don't belong to me
and you don't belong to any religion,
-
and you don't belong to any God?
-
You must follow that man.
Then you will be happy.
-
What do you mean by, "I am Christian?"
-
Christ is dead, 2000 years now.
-
And you are following a man
who is dead, you see.
-
And you will also die like him.
-
So this religion is given by the people
who are doing some business,
-
some kind of business, you see.
-
Even, even during his life
nobody followed him.
-
Five people were there only.
-
Only five people were there and
they also left him every time.
-
When he was suffering nobody
helped him, you see?
-
So it is better to be free,
and don't follow anyone
-
and follow something
which cannot be followed.
-
Close your eyes,
and close your ears,
-
and then see who's that
person who can help you.
-
Anyway, you are offered to sing a song.
-
Who is, listen to the song. and who will
enjoy when somebody is suffering and singing?
-
It's a good song to say,
"I am free.
-
"I don't belong to any
religion and anybody."
-
Then you sing a song.
-
Everybody will follow and
everybody will be happy.
-
So since you have offered
to sing a song, all...
-
Okay, you can sing but what
happened to your right knee?
-
What is this?
-
It split out of my jeans.
-
It split out of my jeans.
It split out of my jeans, he says.
-
Out of your...
-
And it will go slowly,
it will go up, you see.
-
This hole will slowly go up, you see?
-
Okay.
-
- I will try to sing from that space.
- Yes. Okay.
-
I will try to sing from that space.
-
From this place?
-
Chalo.
-
I've been scrambled by your grace.
-
That's blown my logical mind away.
-
I've been scrambled by your grace.
-
It is all being blown away.
-
Forgot.
-
I'm so grateful for your presence, Papaji.
-
Bless you, Papaji.
-
- That's all?
- What?
-
That's all?
-
It's such a big song on the big...
-
I will try one more verse.
-
I can't.
Thank you, Papaji.
-
"This is the echo.
-
- Sicko or what?
- Echo, yes. It is the echo.
-
"This is the echo in the,
in the cave of my heart.
-
"The soundless sound.
-
"I am that.
-
"Creative, luminous,
-
"ever-hanging, unborn,
-
"absorbing on presence."
-
Okay.
-
"I am that which is not.
-
"The, the sightless sight
in the cave of the heart.
-
"Here and there I am.
-
"Beloved Papaji, I thank you very
much for all you took off my,
-
"took off my shoulders,
so I can dance aptly in silence.
-
"Being here now in this auspicious moment,
-
"I'd like to ask you for a new name.
-
"Having seen, having been called,
-
"called..."
-
- Burr?
- Bear.
-
- Called Burr?
- Bear. Bear.
-
Bear is not...
-
- The spelling of the bear is correct?
- No, it's not correct.
-
Bear.
-
"For almost half, half my life,
-
"which means, courageous and,
-
"and endurant
-
- "is a...
- As a bear.
-
- "...as a bear.
- Yes.
-
"Please give me another name
from knowledge of Self.
-
"With loving gratitude."
-
- So it this?
- Bear.
-
- Bear.
- Lucknow.
-
Lucknow 28.
-
- Bear means?
- Courageous?
-
- Bear.
- Like a bear.
-
- Ah. Bears are very courageous?
- Yes.
-
Okay. Where to write?
-
- Eight.
- 28. Two, eight. Eight.
-
- Eight?
- Yes. One, ninety-seven.
-
Chalo.
-
Chalo.
-
This is your name.
-
Read it.
-
- Madhukar.
- Yes.
-
- Sweet like honey.
- Yeah, honey.
-
Beloved
-
Yes. And you will see now,
how people will jump on you.
-
Madhukar.
Yes. Sweet. Honey.
-
Honey-like.
-
This is? What is this?
-
"Dear Papaji, thank you for
-
- "for..." moving?
- Having heard.
-
- For having?
- Heard.
-
"...having heard..."
-
It's difficult to read.
-
My deep longing heart.
-
"...my deep longing for...
-
- Longing heart.
- "...and..."
-
- And made me come here.
- And made me?
-
- Come here.
- "...made me come here.
-
"Please help me.
-
"Only one..."
-
Please help me surrender.
-
Only?
-
- As only one thing matters.
- "...matters.
-
Which is to know who I truly am.
-
- "I would be...
- Very happy.
-
"...very happy if you give me
-
"a name."
-
What is this?
What's smelling?
-
Maybe the flowers?
-
Ah. Yeah.
-
You got some?
She got some smell?
-
She got some smell, yes.
-
Some scent?
-
Okay.
-
She got the smell.
She got the smell.
-
Smell?
-
It's written here:
'Smell of soma plant.'
-
- Like?
- Smell of soma plant.
-
Smelling.
-
Chalo.
-
Give her this name,
-
Read it.
-
You can read. You yes.
-
- You have to read and tell.
- Soma.
-
There. Yeah.
-
Soma. Moonlight.
-
Moonlight face and...
-
Beautiful face and sweet like honey.
-
- Yes.
- Soma.
-
And cheeks not like...
cheeks like potatoes?
-
- She's beautiful.
- Beautiful.
-
- She is from which country?
- From which country you are?
-
She doesn't know!
She doesn't know. She forgot.
-
She totally forgot. She forgot!
-
Italy? Italy?
-
She forgot.
She forgot.
-
Chalo. (Let's go.)
-
"I live in Boulder and,
-
- "and help...
-
- Mail video?
- Gangaji's videos.
-
Right. Read it now.
-
"...and help mail Gangaji's videos
to different cities in America.
-
- To different cities in America.
- Chalo.
-
"I want to ask you about
a dream I had about you.
-
"In my dream you and I were married."
-
The dreams all come true, you see?
-
Okay.
-
"We lived in one room.
-
"We lived in one room and it was dark."
-
- It was?
- Dark. Dark.
-
"You decided,
you decided to leave me."
-
- To?
- Leave me.
-
- Leave?
- Leave me.
-
"I bursted out in a deep cry, as you walked
out, taking no possessions,
-
"and I thought, 'Now I have to do
it myself; awaken myself.'
-
"What do you think this dream means?"
-
- Mean?
- What does it mean?
-
"And is it possible for you
to give me a new name?"
-
- What's her name, Dona?
- Dona.
-
Dona.
-
Dona is...
-
I was in some country there,
one girl had this name, Dona.
-
And I asked her, what is the meaning?
-
She said, "Beloved.
-
"Beloved and easily available."
-
Dona. Yes.
-
Dona.
-
Knowledge
-
Write down here this name which I am
going to give is, which means knowledge,
-
and another name of Goddess Durga.
-
Always happy.
-
Chalo.
-
Write down the word.
-
Vidya. Vidya.
-
Okay, give it to her.
-
Vidya? Vidya?
-
Thank you.
-
No 'I' after 'D.'
-
She says, "No 'I' after 'D."
-
She says, "No 'I' after 'D'."
Like this: Vidya.
-
Yes, yes, Vidya.
-
- Papaji?
- Okay.
-
- You want to sing?
- Yes. Yes.
-
- Okay.
- No!
-
What do you think the dream means?
-
- Dream?
- Dream.
-
When she thought that
she was married to you.
-
What time she had a dream?
-
It was this last summer,
during the summer.
-
During last summer.
-
- Summer. Summer.
- Last summer.
-
- And time?
- What time?
-
- At night.
- Whole night, whole night.
-
Whole night so...
-
This dream is a true dream.
-
It is going to happen.
It is very true.
-
You can't dream otherwise. You have
not seen me, and you are having dream.
-
So it is going to be a true dream.
-
And you will know, at that time I will
tell you.
-
Today, tomorrow, doesn't mean anything.
-
And this time, when you have dream,
it's not a time at all.
-
It is beyond time,
where I and you will always meet.
-
And then you will know that
we are the same person.
-
Yes. Okay.
-
There's something here.
Something.
-
My eyes are...
-
Chalo.
-
What is name?
-
Reinhild.
Reinhild.
-
"I am leaving today, and,
-
"and with you.
-
"I trust.
-
- "I want to...
- Thank you.
-
"I want to thank you
for your presence.
-
Somehow.
-
"Somehow I feel that you are,
-
"you are the light.
-
"Although I don't really...
-
- Understand it.
- "...understand it.
-
"Before I go,
-
"before I go now,
-
"I also want to, to ask you,
-
"if you,
-
"if you are,
-
"if you give me,
-
- "give...
- Me.
-
"...give me
-
"real idea, who I am,
-
"and know that it becomes,
-
"it becomes more near to that.
-
"It is, it is that, that...
-
"fail...
-
- That what I am searching.
- "That what I am searching."
-
I tell you how you will know
who you are in reality.
-
Just now you can see
what you are in reality.
-
First of all,
-
close your eyes,
-
and secondly,
-
close your mind.
-
Don't think of the past, present,
and future.
-
And then you will know who,
who really you are.
-
Smog...
-
You have to tell me now.
-
There's nothing,
-
- Nothing. There's nothing.
- Ah yes. That is correct.
-
You are always that, you see.
-
You are always that.
-
But somehow, somebody has told you,
'You are my daughter,' and 'You are my wife'
-
and you have listened to him,
you have become that,
-
and spoiled yourself.
-
You are not woman, not man.
-
You are God itself.
-
Therefore, nobody has told you, before.
Therefore you ignored it.
-
So tell, 'I am God myself,
I don't need anything else.'
-
'I am happiness. I am silence.
I am not born.'
-
So this is the trick to be always happy.
-
But nobody tells.
-
When you are born, the mother
is happy, 'She is my daughter.'
-
And when you are married,
the husband is happy, 'She is my wife.'
-
So everybody want to possess you
for their own use, to enjoy.
-
Not that, you see.
-
So you are that, which has no body,
-
and which cannot be enjoyed,
which is enjoyment itself, you see.
-
So this is the trick, which
nobody has told you before.
-
Okay.
-
Chalo. Chalo.
-
"Dear Papaji,
-
"I don't know what to say,
-
"but,
-
- "but...
- Feeling.
-
- Feeling?
- Yes.
-
"...but feeling that gratitude today.
-
"I am,
-
"I am going to,
-
- "to the...
- North.
-
"to the North and ask you for
a new name to carry with me.
-
"Thank you, Papaji.
-
- "Su..."
- Suzanne. Suzanne.
-
- Suzanne.
- Suzanna. She is French?
-
From Switzerland.
Switzerland.
-
Susanna. Because I know one girl was,
she was coming to me, my...
-
Susanna was her name, was there.
Country there.
-
Switzerland.
-
- Suzanna her name?
- Her name is Suzanne.
-
Sushma.
-
Beautiful.
-
Honest spell...
Spelling of honest?
-
N. N.
N-E-S-T.
-
Give it to her.
-
What name?
-
Sushma. Sushma.
-
Sushma.
-
Sushma, yes.
-
- Her name was?
- Suzanne.
-
Suzanne, must have this
name then: Sushma.
-
- Beautiful.
- Beautiful. Loving. Honest.
-
Honest, yeah.
-
Sushma. Suzanna. They are
very close to each other.
-
"I am leaving Lucknow in, in two days.
-
"And tomorrow, Wednesday,
-
"is my birthday.
-
"I would like to know
if I can come with my...
-
- Husband.
- "...with my husband and...
-
- Children?
- Children, yeah.
-
- Heh?
- Children.
-
"...children to have lunch
with you tomorrow.
-
"Can I sing a song for you?
-
Today, or at the same time?
-
- Today and tomorrow.
- "Today and tomorrow."
-
So, how many people will come?
-
How many people will you have?
-
They are four on their side.
-
- Five.
- Five.
-
Five people. But here we are
about at that time... What time?
-
Here we are at least 30,
40 people for lunch.
-
If you bring all, for all of them, it will be nice,
-
otherwise at least for, at least for...
-
30 people you have to bring; our 30 people, because
when you eat somewhere, you eat together, isn't it?
-
So, what are you going to bring with you?
-
Or you can arrange. There is,
-
there is somebody here.
He can. He can arrange, if you like.
-
So, you can give order to, to him.
-
He makes very good food also.
-
Very good food.
-
And money also he doesn't care,
but you have to give advance money.
-
[off mic] He makes [indecipherable]...
-
He is very faithful man.
-
So, you give, then he will
show you our place also.
-
And he will, he will come himself
also to help you in eating.
-
- What's her name?
- Cecilia. Cecilia.
-
- Cecilia.
- Cecilia.
-
- She is the wife of Yogi.
- Yogi. I see. Yes.
-
Then it's all right to say.
-
- Papaji?
- Yes.
-
She want to sing?
-
Today or tomorrow, as you like.
-
Tomorrow will be good.
You said at that time.
-
- Who's this?
- This is Patty.
-
Patty.
-
"I love you.
-
- "Have you...
- Thank you.
-
"Thank you for loving me
enough to help me.
-
Love. Truth.
-
"Will you, will you kiss me?"
-
Yes. Yes.
Will you kiss me?
-
Will you kiss me with your grace?
-
- With your?
- Grace. Grace. Grace.
-
What? Grace?
-
- Grace.
- Okay.
-
"And my giving one...
-
- By giving me a new name.
- Oh new name, also.
-
"I, I would like to...
-
- Share your grace.
- "...share your grace with...
-
- Everyone.
- "..with.everyone...
-
Who speaks my name.
-
- Who?
- Who speaks my name.
-
- Ah. "...who speaks my name."
-
What does it mean?
Who will speak the name?
-
Whoever will speak her name will be
sharing your grace.
-
Okay.
-
- This is how you write this: Priya?
- Yes, Papaji.
-
Yes.
-
Beloved. Priya.
-
- Date?
- Eight.
-
Eight. One. Nine-seven.
-
What is this name?
-
Priya?
-
Beloved. Lovely.
-
Priya.
-
Who's name was Priya?
I just remember.
-
Who's name was Priya?
-
She's in Arunachala now, Papaji.
-
She's in Arunachala.
-
One girl, Priya, was here.
-
She's from Chile.
She went to Arunachala,
-
and she will come after
one or two weeks.
-
Okay. Arunachala?
-
- I'm going to Arunachala tomorrow.
- Okay
-
Friday too, so I'll see her.
And I'll be back. Thank you.
-
"Dear Papaji, by your grace I have,
-
"I have been...
-
Embraced.
Embraced.
-
"...I have been embraced and
-
"taken into the...
-
- Hearts.
- "...into the...
-
- Hearts.
- Hearts?
-
- Hearts.
- "...hearts of many people.
-
- "here in...
- Lucknow.
-
"...here in Lucknow.
-
"The, the family I live.
-
"live with
-
- "meet...
- Treats me.
-
- Treat me.
- "...treats me...
-
- As a family member.
- "...as a family member."
-
Where you are staying?
-
At Ravindra Saxonah's House.
Not far from here.
-
- I didn't understand the name.
- Ravindra Saxonah's home.
-
Ravindra Saxonah's home.
Ravindra Saxonah's.
-
An Indian name.
-
- You stay with Indian family?
- Yes.
-
Chalo.Then. A sector.
-
- It's on A sector. [in Indira Nagar]
- A sector.
-
- This is a doctor.
- "He's a doctor and treats me like...
-
For no money.
Treats me for no money.
-
"A doctor is treating me for no money.
-
"I lay these beautiful people at your feet
and ask that you bless them."
-
- Okay.
- "My heart is full of love for you, for all.
-
"I'm very happy, dear Papaji.
It is very good to be here.
-
"May I have a name from you.
Thank you, Father."
-
- What's her name?
- Catherine.
-
- Catherine?
- Catherine.
-
Lovely.
-
- What's this...?
- Lovely.
-
- Spelling?
- E-L-Y.
-
L-Y.
-
- Two, eight.
- Date?
-
Eight. One, nine, seven.
-
Nine, seven.
-
What is this name?
-
- Prema. Prema?
- Yes.
-
Have you heard this name before? No.
-
"Dear Papaji, since one and a half month,
-
"I am here in Lucknow.
-
"I left Italy to meet you...
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- Carrying.
- "...carrying all my hopes...
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- Hopes. All my hopes.
- "...all my hopes in the...
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- Travel bag.
- "... in the bag...
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- In the travel bag.
- "...in the travelling bag.
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"I am very happy to be here and, and like...
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- Silent.
- "...I like silence here at your feet.
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"I am very happy here for the first time,
but every, but every...
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- Day. Day. Every day.
- "...every day...
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Grows in me.
Grows. Grows in me.
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"...grows in me the,
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- "the...
- Desire.
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- "...desire to come,
come close to you all the day.
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"I believe that you have, you have...
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Can throw. Can throw.
Throw the bridge.
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- Know?
- Throw. T-H-R-O-W, throw.
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Throw.
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"throw the...?
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- Bridge. Bridge.
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"...bridge that goes from...
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- "from...?
- Words. From words.
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- From words into silence.
- "Roars into silence.
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"And from,
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- "from...
- I am at that point.
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"I am that, at that point. There...
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- Where words and concepts.
- "...and concepts there...
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- Are not sufficient anymore.
- ...not sufficient...
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- Anymore.
- "...anymore."
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Read it, I can't read.
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"Questions seem inadequate.
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"My identification with the body and its
thousand troubles doesn't give an inch.
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"I am tired to think about what I should
or should not do.
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"And even the thought that there is nothing
I have or can do, is just a thought.
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"Papa, let myself go into your grace.
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"Laura."
Laura.
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- What? Laura?
- Laura.
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Laura?
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- Laura?
- Laura.
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- Laura. Laura.
- Laura.
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- I am translating for her.
- She is translating.
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- She is translating.
- Yes. Yes.
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You may not have translators.
So let her translate, so they give...
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What is it?
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Chalo. Let her translate.
I will see next.
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Chalo.
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Translate what she has written in English
so that everybody has not understood.
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So you speak there.
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Give her this letter.
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[Hindi]
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- Chalo.
- She doesn't want words anymore.
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She doesn't want words anymore.
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And she just wants to disappear.
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She translates beautifully.
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So, this I can see.
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"I am so much beautiful that everybody who
looks at me, follows me.
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"And I am such a holy person in my life.
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"And this life attracts many other people
and they also become holy.
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"And so much, and so much I,
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"I..."
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- I?
- Gopika.
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- Gopika!
- Gopika!
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- And this?
- Very short note.
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Short note.
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- Who?
- "Thank you, Vithal."
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Vithal.
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Vithay. Yes.
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(Chalo. Come back after some time.)
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I go to bathroom.
