6 Things We'll Remember the Switch 1 For - Delayed Input

KYLE: I've been supporting Donkey Kong's
new look this entire time but

if you're gonna turn him into
some dad who's

dabbing wrong on purpose
to embarrass the kids,

I think you've taken it too far.

The Switch 2 is officially 2 weeks away,
which means tonight, we're kickin' off with:

Now, with the Switch 2 being 2 weeks away,

that also means we are also only
2 weeks away from the Switch 1

becoming absolutely obsolete.

There will simply be no reason
to have a Switch 1 anymore,

which is sad, yeah, but, you know, it's not
like I haven't been here many times before.

You know, when you got a Game Boy Advance
you didn't need a Game Boy Color anymore.

In fact, I remember back in the day,
when I got a Game Boy Advance,

I painted my Game Boy Color,
'cause I never--

I never liked the color, like, the
deep purple color of a Game Boy Color.

So I painted it red with flames on it.

And I used the wrong kind of paint
so it just, like--

It-- It was-- It was crusty, right?
And, like, it still worked

but it was bad to feel.

And so my cousin thought it looked cool,
actually, and I said, "Man, you can have it."

And then when I texted him tonight,
turns out he still has it.

[HONK]

But really what I've been thinking about is
how we're going to remember the Switch 1

in particular, right? Because--

Because so much of it is
carrying on to the Switch 2.

Like, you might say, like,
"Well, the Switch 1 was really

the birth of
Nintendo really embracing indies."

But I fully expect that
to carry on, right?

It's not like there's gonna be
a hard cut-off for that.

So here are:

EDITING KYLE: Now, if at this moment
you're thinking, "Hold on a minute!

He said 7 but the title said 6.

Did he cut one?

Let me assure you, no.
I didn't cut anything.

I simply counted wrong.

KYLE: Like how 'bout this:

I know every time
you click on one of my videos,

there's like a 50/50 chance I'm gonna
bring up Smash Bros. reveal trailers.

But it is 'cause I'm crazy about 'em, yes,
but I do feel like that era might be over.

What happened during the Switch
most of its lifetime, right,

was when you're watching a Nintendo Direct,
there's this danger and excitement that

something huge might happen in Smash Bros.

And I think you can feel it since
that it's missing.

You can feel that lack of certain
electricity, you know what I'm saying?

Nobody's gonna be sweatin' at their desktop
wondering who's gonna join the race

with the Kirby Air Riders.

This is the kinda thing I'm talking about
where you say to your friend, like,

"Bro, do you remember Labo?"
Most of your friends won't remember Labo.

You'll have to explain
it was the thing where

you had to buy a box full of
cardboard sleeves and rubber bands

and you'd put 'em together
to make your Switch do weird stuff.

And what's weird is the vehicle one
had its own video game in there

that will now be accessible only
to people who own a Switch 1

and a bunch of cardboard and rubber bands.

Probably should've started with this one:

The Switch is a feel-good story.
I was recently watching E3 2015 for Nintendo

and it's a rough show.
It's tough to watch.

What's funny is they promised the NX is
gonna be good, but not ready to show it yet.

REGGIE: --and our new dedicated
game platform, codename: NX,

which we'll tell you more about in 2016.

KYLE: "So in the meantime,
here's some absolute baloney."

And so with the Switch 1, with
Nintendo getting their act together

and putting out a successful product

with some of the best video games
they've ever made,

they get to show up on Jimmy Fallon--

[Fallon laughs loudly]

-- it was great to see.
It felt like they really cleaned up.

And so, the Switch 2 could be
just as successful as the Switch 1

but it's not gonna be, you know,
that same story.

It's not gonna feel as good
to watch it happen.

By the way, if you're wondering
what the first comeback was,

that's the Wii/DS.
That was the real dumb money era.

How about:

Maybe this is naive
but I wanna feel like that day is done,

the day in which it's COVID lockdown,

you just wanna see
what kind of fossils your friend has

and you gotta go visit that dodo bird
and it takes a super long time to fly

and then there's just this cutscene
of you landing.

It's like a whole 8-minute rigamarole
just to make an online connection.

Those days are done.

Animal Crossing Switch 2, it's just [snap].
Trust me on this [snap].

It's gonna be like, [snap] "Ba-bow!
I'm here."

Okay, I got a dark one:

I wasn't even familiar with the phrase
"stick drift" until this generation.

Like, you know, it's when
one of your analog sticks

is just kind of moving
just a little bit on its own.

You got this cursor that's just like,
"I'm not touching it. I'm not touching it.

Stop! Stop!" You know, that kind of thing.
And to be fair, straight out,

I know that PlayStation controllers
have stick drift too. Mine certainly did.

For that Edge controller, Sony'll just
sell you replacement analog sticks.

But I guess it just hurts so much more
for the Switch because:

1. Those analog sticks, you know,
they ARE the console.

It's basically the thing's functionality.
But also, they were so dang expensive.

And not that we're done
with expensive Joy-Cons, no.

But I gotta feel like this new era, this
new generation of Switch 2 Joy-Con 2s,

stick drift will be a thing of the past.
And you know what also?

Switch Pro Controller, worst d-pad
Nintendo has ever produced.

I mean that.
You can't play Tetris with this.

Meanwhile, Wii U Pro Controller,
one of their best d-pads.

What happened here?

And last thing I think we might
remember about the Switch 1 is:

So just to rewind for a second,
I had forgotten this entirely.

When the Switch 1 released,
when it initially launched,

it was free to play online games.

You didn't have to pay anything
to play Mario Kart 8 online

because Nintendo wasn't ready yet.

And again, I forgot all this.
They even had to delay it.

It was supposed to come out in 2017,
the launch year of the Switch.

But because it wasn't world-class yet,
Nintendo Switch Online got delayed to 2018.

Meanwhile, back in 2016,
before the Switch is even released,

Nintendo puts out:

Look at all of these games
in one tiny box.

And it was a big hit.
And it was selling out.

And then, the year after that:

which even included
the unreleased Star Fox 2. How cool.

Another smashing success.

What could they possibly
put out the year after that?

N64 Mini?

You think it'll do Game Boys?
What are they gonna do?

Turns out, nothing.
Also, in 2018, the year after that,

NIntendo Switch Online was finally ready and
it came with its own classic game collection.

No more free multiplayer.
That's over. But,

at least you're getting
Solomon's Key.

Now, you might think connecting these
two things might be stretching it a bit

but Reggie Fils-Aime himself
even basically confirmed it. He said:

So yeah, those sweet little mini consoles
were just too good for this world.

They simply existed to
help Nintendo out in some down years.

Not likely we'll ever see
anything like that again

unless the Switch 2
is a catastrophic failure.

And with Donkey Kong Bananza,
that's simply not possible.

That's Delayed Input for this week.
I'll be back next week.

Until then, thanks for watching.

So there's been some absolutely
wild and firey headlines

in regards to Marathon over the last week:

This one's pretty blunt:

And then the thing I want to
talk about most this week:

Now, I didn't know you could just
write headlines like that. [laugh]

So here's what happened.
Last week, Antireal, an artist, said,

"Bungie copied this stuff from me."

Bungie did and later that night
apologized on social media

but they already had this livestream
scheduled the day after.

And credit to them,
they went through with it.

Now, I do think this team
does seem new to livestreaming

or perhaps even to
the concept of being live.

JOE ZIEGLER: --going to be awkward if you--

We've got some [unintelligible] [laughs]
JOSEPH CROSS: Oh yeah.

KYLE: And that's what it still looks like
right now on their YouTube channel.

They posted it like that.

To whoever runs this channel,
you can clip that stuff out.

Let me show you.
Watch this.

It's not even that many clicks.

[unintelligible]
Okay, and boop. No more awkward intro.

ZIEGLER: Let us know
when the actual stream camera is up.

KYLE: Anyway, what is wild and twisted is
that the entire hour-plus-long stream

is just that one shot:

Director Joe Ziegler on the left,
Art Director Joe Cross on the right.

And yeah, it's as awkward
as you're imagining it is.

The first order of business is for this
Art Director to issue his written apology.

And then after that, he had to stay there
mostly silent for most of the rest of the show,

just looking somehow tense and
checked-out at the same time.

And you know this about me,
I love an apology. However,

there was something a little stinky
about this apology.

'Cause yeah, he covered all the points
from that post before:

"The person who did this
is no longer with us.

We've contacted Antireal
and things are good with her.

We can't show you more footage right now

because we're currently making sure
nothing else is stolen in our game."

But I have to wonder what your intent is,
why you would include this part.

CROSS: Hundreds of artists have
worked on this project for years,

internally and externally.
And we share many influences

including modernism, Swiss typography,
2000's-style vector art, cyberpunk,

and, of course,
the original Marathon trilogy.

Um, our style is a result
of all of those inspirations.

KYLE: And then say:

CROSS: And so, to that extent, I wanna
send my personal apology to Antireal.

Uh, her work is fantastic and
we clearly share mutual appreciation, um,

for a specific genre of graphic design.
And it's very exciting

and I'm excited to have folded that
into our style in general.

So, thanks for listening
and thanks for your patience.

KYLE: So he's saying they share an
appreciation for the same graphical style.

He's saying he's excited to
bring Antireal into the fold.

Yeah, I bet you are. [laugh]

And again, if you think maybe
I'm jumping to conclusions,

maybe I'm interpreting that the wrong way,

a half an hour in, he did just
bring up Antireal again for no reason.

CROSS: There's even some DNA shared,
I think, with Destiny, with sort of

Swiss modernism and that whole--
you know, that whole genre of,

you know, sans serif typography
all the way up through 2000's, early 90's,

you know, which where I mention before,
I think there is a lot of overlap there

in terms of inseration
with Antireal, The Designers Republic,

vector art, that kind of thing.

KYLE: "Yeah, so Antireal was clearly
inspired by a lot of the same things we were.

Not that we were inspired by Antireal.
It's kinda, you know, it's--

We're just all vibin' off each other."

And I guess what
really bugs me still is the

half acknowledgement,
the idea that, like,

"Hey, that was just-- It was just
some images posted to decal sheets

from somebody who's
no longer with us at Bungie."

And I guess 'cause those textures
were 1-to-1 rips,

it was the most damning thing to run with.

But it's still-- This image here, to me,

this cool little shapes turned into
larger grids into larger textures.

'Cause that stuff is
all over Marathon.

Look, we got one of those
little squares right here.

Did that person who no longer works
at Bungie just work on everything?

Now here's how I would recommend
you just handle this, here's my advice:

Simply say,
"This was a major f-up.

We did bad.
We did a bad thing.

Antireal, we love your work.
We are paying you $1 million.

Alright, everybody? We cool?

In fact, if when you boot up Marathon,
you find any art we stole from you,

we'll pay YOU a million dollars.

Think of it like a contest." [laughs]