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I think art is wonderful
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because it's everything you've ever known,
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and everything you've ever done
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somehow percolating up,
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working with ideas that you might want to explore.
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And then you can just wake up one morning
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and know what you want to do.
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This is a very unusual art project.
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I got a phone call out of the blue.
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It was from an art consultant
in the city, wonderful woman.
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And she said, "Congratulations,
you've been selected
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to make an art work for the Frey Foundation
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of the city of Grand Rapids."
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and I said, "Well, what's the site?"
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And it was one little corner.
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It was called the "Percent for Art Corner"
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of sort of a very tough park,
or what was left of a park.
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There was a skating rink that
was in bad need of a repair.
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And I said, "I don't believe an art work,
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one singular object is going to help resolve
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sort of the urban situation
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of what this park is and is not doing,
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but if the Frey Foundation is at all interested
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in having me come in, having
the art act as a catalyst
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to completely rework this park,
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I would be extremely interested."
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I think the idea of a skating rink
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is something that just sort of piqued my fancy.
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What I actually wanted to do
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was take an idea of sculpture
and grow it into a park.
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I didn't realize I was going to have to work
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as an architect as well,
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because the city then required
two or three buildings
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to be part of the site.
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A bandstand, a restroom facility,
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I'll have put in all the lighting.
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Yeah, it's not...
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I wonder if you're gonna notice that.
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That might be a good North Star.
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<v Assistant>okay.</v>
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<v ->Right?</v>
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And so then we either go deep, deep blue.
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Yeah, that works fine for the North Star,
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because it's off-blue.
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<v ->Okay.</v>
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<v ->I'm really curious what this
looks like with ice on it.
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We're soon gonna find out, with ice.
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I sort of called this one
the three stages of water:
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solid, liquid, and gas.
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So the liquid is a water fountain
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that's three feet above you.
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A circle covered with water in
it flows off the front edge.
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The mist or the gas fountain
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is a ring of mist that'll come up,
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and you could almost walk into the mist.
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And of course, the ice is the ice skating rink.
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The genesis started with water.
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Grand Rapids actually took the
rapids out of the river there
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for flooding reasons.
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And I started to play with the idea
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of bringing it back a little bit.
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The starting of the rings, the terraced rings,
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started as, if you took a drop of water
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in the center of the pool, and let them come out,
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and then it spun into an idea
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of as much about astronomy and about the stars,
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so it's almost like pulling
the stars into a pool of water.
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It's sort of a reflection of
the night sky in the pool.
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(group chuckling and chattering)
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<v ->All right, this is it.
Now close your eyes.
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<v ->Wow. This is not bad.</v>
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(chattering)
Just be careful, Sarah.
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Wow.
(gentle music)
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It's a piece that marks a very set point in time
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and connects it back to a
set occurrence in nature.
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(ice skater yells)
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It's up and running.
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The skating rink's actually up first,
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and I'll go back in to fine-tune
the landscaping, the trees.
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My sculptures deal with
naturally occurring phenomena,
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and they are embedded and very closely aligned
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with geology and landscape
and natural earth formations.
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It's all about a play back and forth
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between inside works and outside works,
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all trying to capture the landscape.
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This is a group of atlases.
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I bought about ten old atlases.
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And I started making these
landscapes, craters, in them.
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So this one sort of has a double crater.
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So you go past through the first crater,
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and there's a little island,
and you open it to the island,
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and I'll make it more complex
island geography here,
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which is what's going on.
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So much of my artwork is very
large-scale outdoor works
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that I like to retreat into the studio
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and make a lot of the work myself.
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And the trouble is the outdoor works
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and the architecture tends to take up all my time,
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so I find it very hard, as a struggle,
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to be able to come back here and do this.
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This is like the first work
I've done in a little while.
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It's terrible.
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(cat meows)
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We have gone through a period
in art and architecture,
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I think, modernity, industrialization,
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which allowed for specialization.
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There are very few architects
who are also solidly,
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have a gallery.
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Part of me is an artist.
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The other part of me builds architecture.
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I'm not at all wanting to have a large practice.
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I don't want to practice architecture.
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I love building a few buildings.
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So I have to be very careful what I take on.
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I've done some works that are extremely public
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and extremely well-known,
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and I think had I not done the Vietnam Memorial
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and come out with the body of
work that since has come out,
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I would have been able to be called an artist
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about five years sooner.
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But because I had done the Vietnam Memorial,
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it was like, "Oh, you make monuments,"
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whatever that means.
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I mean, look at that one, the biggest one.
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Dee-dee-dee-dee.
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Dee-dee-dee.
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I don't think I woke up one day and said,
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"Oh, I'm going to be an artist
on some days and an arch..."
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It was more I couldn't choose between the two,
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nor did I choose to blend them.
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You might be able to do this better than me.
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It's taken me a body of work
to see how I am developing.
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<v Acquaintance>I don't think so.</v>
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<v ->No, it's solid, it's totally solid.</v>
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It's been on for an hour now.
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It's kind of surreal.
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I really want to make this piece.
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I'm actually playing with
the idea of taking this idea
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and creating a work out of recycled rubber,
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calling it "Playground."
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It will be twice as big
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as the untitled topographic landscape,
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and kids can play on it.