Reconsidering the art museum in the 21st century | Dana Kletchka | TEDxPSU
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0:19 - 0:23Hi, I want you to indulge me
for just a moment and I want you -
0:23 - 0:24to close your eyes and relax.
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0:25 - 0:26Sit in your chairs.
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0:26 - 0:28And I want you to think
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0:28 - 0:31about your earliest memories
of an art museum. -
0:31 - 0:33What are the things
that come to your mind? -
0:34 - 0:36Is it the building?
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0:36 - 0:37Is it the architecture?
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0:38 - 0:40Is it the people that you were with?
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0:40 - 0:42Is it the objects?
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0:42 - 0:45So I want you to keep that
in the back of your mind -
0:45 - 0:47as I talk with you today
because we'll come back to it. -
0:47 - 0:50But for now, open your eyes.
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0:51 - 0:53I first fell in love with art museums
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0:53 - 0:54when I was a little girl.
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0:55 - 0:57And my father would take
my twin brother and I -
0:57 - 1:01to the Nelson Atkins Museum of Art
in Kansas City, Missouri, -
1:01 - 1:02on the family free days.
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1:02 - 1:05And I remember going through the plaza,
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1:05 - 1:07sitting in the back of the car.
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1:07 - 1:09And he would drive us through
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1:09 - 1:12and I would see the sculpture garden.
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1:12 - 1:13And I would get so excited
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1:13 - 1:15because I knew what was about to happen.
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1:16 - 1:19And we would go and as he would
try to find a place to park, -
1:19 - 1:21the excitement would well up in me.
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1:22 - 1:26And I would see Rodin's "The Thinker"
sitting outside of the museum -
1:26 - 1:28with his hand underneath his chin,
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1:28 - 1:32his body tense in concentration,
his elbow on his knee. -
1:33 - 1:34And we would walk by him
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1:35 - 1:37and go underneath these beautiful columns
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1:37 - 1:41and these front doors
that just beckoned me in. -
1:41 - 1:43And we must have been there quite a bit.
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1:43 - 1:45We must have spent some time there
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1:45 - 1:47because I remember becoming very familiar
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1:47 - 1:49and finding these really beautiful things
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1:49 - 1:52that I connected with including
Jan van Huysum's floral still life. -
1:53 - 1:55It's a memento mori
called "Vase of Flowers". -
1:56 - 1:59And I remember thinking that if
I could stand there long enough, -
1:59 - 2:01I could hear the buzzing of the bees
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2:01 - 2:04or I could touch the softness
of the petals -
2:04 - 2:07or I might even be able to, you know,
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2:07 - 2:09smell the flowers themselves.
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2:10 - 2:14I also remember the exquisite
beauty of a Caravaggio painting -
2:14 - 2:16of St John the Baptist.
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2:16 - 2:20And I remember his soft skin
and his hair and his red cloak. -
2:20 - 2:23And I remember the cake
of dirt underneath his toenails. -
2:23 - 2:25Like these are the things I remember?
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2:25 - 2:30And I just think back and can't believe it
because I thought -
2:30 - 2:33that they had put
all of these things here just for me. -
2:33 - 2:34I was a six year old kid
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2:34 - 2:36and they had put them there just for me.
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2:37 - 2:41And now, I've spent twenty years
working in art museums -
2:41 - 2:42creating opportunities for people
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2:42 - 2:46to engage with one another
and with art and with culture. -
2:46 - 2:48And I've thought a lot about the reasons
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2:48 - 2:50that people love to go to art museums.
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2:50 - 2:53And I've also thought
an awful lot about the reasons -
2:53 - 2:54that people don't like to go.
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2:54 - 2:57And I'm really interested
to see what will happen -
2:57 - 2:59with art museums
in the twenty first century. -
3:00 - 3:02Now I have a quiz for you.
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3:03 - 3:05Museums in the United States
are often compared -
3:05 - 3:07to two other kinds of institutions;
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3:07 - 3:08can anybody guess what they are?
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3:08 - 3:11Just shout it out.
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3:12 - 3:14Audience: Banks.
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3:14 - 3:17Dana Kletchka: Banks, okay,
well that makes sense, anything else? -
3:18 - 3:19Audience: Libraries.
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3:19 - 3:22DK: Libraries, okay we have
churches and libraries. -
3:23 - 3:25And this makes a lot of sense.
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3:25 - 3:29All three of them
are repositories of culture. -
3:29 - 3:31They all have very specific locations.
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3:31 - 3:35They all have inspiration
and knowledge that we're seeking. -
3:36 - 3:40They represent the richness
of our culture intellectually, -
3:40 - 3:42spiritually, and creatively.
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3:42 - 3:46But for an awful lot of people,
they are places of boredom -
3:46 - 3:50and stillness and quiet, right?
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3:50 - 3:51We all know the rules.
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3:51 - 3:53No talking.
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3:53 - 3:54No touching.
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3:54 - 3:56No food or drink.
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3:56 - 3:57No photography.
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3:57 - 3:59I could go on, but I won't.
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4:00 - 4:03And these rules are there
for a reason, right? -
4:03 - 4:04To keep things safe, you know,
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4:04 - 4:06you've got to have things all ready to go.
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4:07 - 4:11However, they also tend to alienate people
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4:12 - 4:13and that also makes sense.
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4:13 - 4:17Even in the United States,
art museums are the repositories -
4:17 - 4:20of culture that are descended
from kings and queens. -
4:21 - 4:24They are housed in these
intellectual spaces -
4:24 - 4:27and in these incredible
architectural buildings. -
4:27 - 4:31They represent experiences
that most of us can only dream of. -
4:31 - 4:36They are representative
of the power of community -
4:36 - 4:38and of countries even.
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4:38 - 4:41So it's no wonder to me
that a lot of people find museums -
4:41 - 4:45to be boring and elitist
and perhaps even unnecessary. -
4:46 - 4:50But I'm here to argue that art museums
cannot exist without you -
4:50 - 4:51in their current iteration.
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4:52 - 4:54And I would say that
because we live in a world -
4:54 - 4:57where people are driven
to seek new experiences, -
4:57 - 5:01to find out new information,
and to connect with one another, -
5:01 - 5:04that you cannot exist without art museums.
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5:05 - 5:07Now, the National Endowment for the Arts
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5:07 - 5:09came out with a study a few years ago.
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5:09 - 5:13And it basically said
that participation in the arts -
5:13 - 5:16is down dramatically
over the last twenty years, -
5:16 - 5:18whether it's ballets
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5:18 - 5:20or orchestra concerts or exhibitions.
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5:20 - 5:23People are not walking
and getting their behinds in seats -
5:23 - 5:25and they're not walking
through the galleries. -
5:25 - 5:27And on one hand that's really distressing.
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5:27 - 5:30But on the other hand,
we kind of know why. -
5:30 - 5:32There are people who have said
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5:32 - 5:34that even though they
aren't going to these kinds -
5:34 - 5:37of cultural things
they would otherwise like to go -
5:37 - 5:38and they gave three big reasons.
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5:38 - 5:40And the first one is time.
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5:40 - 5:44We don't have enough time
to do the things that we need to do -
5:44 - 5:46much less the things that we want to do.
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5:47 - 5:50And there are some people
that even more it's difficult -
5:50 - 5:52for them to find
the transportation to get there -
5:52 - 5:53or find a way to get there.
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5:54 - 5:56A second thing - and if you have
young kids you know -
5:56 - 5:57what I'm talking about.
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5:58 - 6:02If you have kids under the age of six,
it is very difficult -
6:02 - 6:05for you to find the time
to get your kids, get them ready, -
6:05 - 6:07put them in the car,
schlep them over there, -
6:07 - 6:10and then once you get there
there's nothing for them to do. -
6:11 - 6:14And I know that as a parent
I am not going to go through that -
6:14 - 6:18because I don't want to hear
the whining once we get there, right? -
6:18 - 6:21And the third reason that people
are who would otherwise -
6:21 - 6:23want to engage with culture,
the reason that they're not -
6:23 - 6:26is because of social experiences
and the lack thereof. -
6:27 - 6:29And for me this
is the most poignant reason. -
6:29 - 6:32They don't want to go
to these things alone. -
6:33 - 6:36Even in situations where
money is a difficulty, -
6:36 - 6:38that's something that can be overcome.
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6:39 - 6:42But the social part
of not being with anybody -
6:42 - 6:44is not something people want to overcome.
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6:44 - 6:47So I'm not going to do that yet.
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6:47 - 6:50Okay so the National Endowment
for the Arts -
6:50 - 6:52also had another study that came out,
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6:52 - 6:54so this is really paradoxical.
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6:55 - 6:58They actually said that people
are engaging with culture just -
6:58 - 6:59as much as they did before.
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6:59 - 7:02And I know you're probably
sitting there thinking -
7:02 - 7:04"Dana you just told me
that people aren't going -
7:04 - 7:06to art museums, so what's up?"
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7:06 - 7:07And what's up is technology.
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7:07 - 7:09People are interfacing with technology.
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7:09 - 7:11They are downloading podcasts.
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7:11 - 7:14They are watching videos of concerts.
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7:14 - 7:16They are pulling up Google Art.
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7:16 - 7:18They are looking at exhibitions online.
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7:18 - 7:20And they are engaging
with culture in a way -
7:20 - 7:23that makes the most sense
to them in terms of time, -
7:23 - 7:26in terms of space, in terms of safety,
and in terms of cost. -
7:27 - 7:31Now, I think that the problem with this
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7:31 - 7:34is that it doesn't give people
the kind of experience -
7:35 - 7:40that you can get if you go
to a rich, social, interesting place. -
7:41 - 7:46There is no replacement
for actually going to a space -
7:46 - 7:49and being with other people
and having a relationship with them -
7:49 - 7:52and the discussions that can happen.
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7:53 - 7:56Art museums occupy
a rich space in our culture -
7:56 - 7:58and there's a reason for that.
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7:58 - 8:00You can go there and you can see things
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8:00 - 8:02that you've never seen before.
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8:02 - 8:05You can learn about times
and places and other people -
8:05 - 8:07that are otherwise unimaginable.
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8:07 - 8:08Museums inspire us.
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8:08 - 8:11They help us to think
and they help us to consider our place -
8:11 - 8:13in the world, in a world
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8:13 - 8:16that I would argue right
now needs a lot of that. -
8:16 - 8:19However, you have to go.
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8:20 - 8:24You have to be there
in order to experience this. -
8:25 - 8:28The NEA study that I initially
told you about actually said -
8:28 - 8:32that the main reason people go
to museums is because they want -
8:32 - 8:34to spend time with friends
and family and they want -
8:34 - 8:38to learn something new
but you can't do it unless you go. -
8:39 - 8:42Right now you can look up
anything you want online. -
8:43 - 8:46There is no shortage
of the information that you can find -
8:46 - 8:50on artists and paintings
and sculptures and exhibitions. -
8:51 - 8:54But you can't experience it
unless you are there physically -
8:54 - 8:56in person.
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8:56 - 8:58I want to make sure that everybody knows
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8:58 - 9:00that I'm not a luddite.
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9:00 - 9:03I am just as addicted to my iPhone
as everybody else in this room - -
9:03 - 9:07and I know some of you in this room,
so you know what I'm talking about. -
9:07 - 9:10And I really think
that there are some amazing things -
9:10 - 9:12that museums are doing
with technology right now in terms -
9:12 - 9:14of educational engagement.
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9:14 - 9:15It's working.
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9:15 - 9:19However, I want you to go back
to your original thought -
9:20 - 9:23about being in a museum that I asked you
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9:23 - 9:25to conjure earlier today.
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9:25 - 9:29I am willing to bet
that that thought does not include -
9:29 - 9:31interfacing with a screen.
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9:33 - 9:36Right now, art museums
are doing a million different things -
9:37 - 9:41to bring you in, whether it's K-12 tours
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9:42 - 9:43or university experiences,
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9:44 - 9:48whether it's musical performances
or poetry readings. -
9:48 - 9:52Sometimes we have little kids
coming in with Pre-K groups -
9:52 - 9:54and reading groups and visits.
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9:54 - 9:56And all of these require you.
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9:58 - 10:02Your thoughts, your ideas,
your understandings of the world, -
10:02 - 10:06your friends and your family
all belong in an art museum. -
10:08 - 10:14And if a six year old girl
from Kansas can be so inspired to go -
10:15 - 10:19into this grand museum
and the things that I see can inspire me -
10:19 - 10:22to want to work in an art museum
for the rest of my life, -
10:23 - 10:25just think about the experiences
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10:25 - 10:27that you can have in an art museum.
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10:28 - 10:30Thank you.
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10:30 - 10:31(Applause)
- Title:
- Reconsidering the art museum in the 21st century | Dana Kletchka | TEDxPSU
- Description:
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The perceptions and practices of American art museums have evolved over the last century, but what does this mean for art museum visitors? Art museum educator Dana Carlisle Kletchka discusses ways in which contemporary visitors engage with culture as well as common barriers to doing so, but argues that the rich social, emotional, physical, and intellectual aspects of art museum experiences are richer in person and cannot be replicated via digital technologies.
Dana Carlisle Kletchka fell in love with art museums at an early age and spent her professional life creating opportunities for others to fall in love with them, too. She facilitates educational and interpretive programming at the Palmer Museum of Art and works with faculty, staff, students, educators, and community members to create opportunities for engaging with and learning about permanent collections, special exhibitions, and each other. Her work in the arts calls her to promote justice and equity and to envision a more compassionate world.
This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at http://ted.com/tedx
- Video Language:
- English
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- TEDxTalks
- Duration:
- 10:33
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