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I was fed up of committing crime;
I was fed up of taking drugs;
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I was fed up of hurting people.
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No one could show me a way to change.
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I was like a modern-day vampire.
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A vampire only wants blood;
it is not interested in anything else.
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When I was a drug addict, I seriously didn't care about anything else in my life,
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I knew without a shadow of a doubt
that it was God speaking to me -
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from a world where God didn't exist.
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HEART TALK
GOD’S HEART TV
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Hi everyone. My name is Alan Andrews.
I am from a small town in South Wales.
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I run a Centre called ‘Chooselife’, which is a drug and alcohol intervention service.
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I come from a drug background myself.
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I realise why I ended up taking drugs.
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I had stuff going on in my childhood that shouldn’t have happened -
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physical, verbal, sexual abuse.
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It made me feel different from everyone else.
It made me feel ashamed, full of rejection.
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I can remember a point in my life where
I said, ‘I'm no longer going to feel rejection.’
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So I started to live a life of rebellion.
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I first started shoplifting at the age of ten.
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I was taken home in the police car,
to my mum and dad’s shock.
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I'm in a police car -
their little ten year old son.
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I carried on committing crime.
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At the age of 13, I was completely
out of control.
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I was put in an approved school, sent away,
which just reinforced the rejection inside.
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To everyone else, I was a heck of
a character who just didn't care.
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But inside I was still hurting.
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Being locked away at 13, away from
my mum and dad, was really difficult.
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But I couldn't show anyone,
so I learnt not to show emotion.
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And I built a life around that.
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At the age of 14, I was sent to a detention centre, which was ‘short, sharp shock’.
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From the moment you walk in there,
the officers would scream at you.
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I can remember standing naked on this white line for about two hours,
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with the officers just verbally abusing you, screaming at you, terrifying you.
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And that just remained with me to this day - the memory of it.
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I was there for six weeks and four days.
I can remember when I got out of there -
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if I was ever going to stop getting in trouble, it would have been then.
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But I couldn't stop because I had no one around me to help me
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deal with the emotions that I had inside, that I was hiding from.
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So I carried on committing crime.
I was sent back to an approved school at 15.
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I stayed there until I was 16 years old
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and then at 17, I was sent to
a young offenders unit.
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At 18 I was sent to Borstal, which in that day was a place you really didn’t want to go.
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And I became a borstal boy - I fitted in.
I would fit in wherever I was, just to survive.
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Once again, I want to emphasise that I still had these intense emotions on the inside
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but on the outside, I had to be
this person that really didn't care.
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So everyone who would see me would think, ‘This guy really doesn’t care’.
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But inside I was just broken,
completely broken.
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I had my 18th birthday in Borstal.
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I got out of there, really tried not getting in trouble but I just couldn’t stop.
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Because with emotion, it’s ‘energy in motion’ - it always has to be flowing.
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But I had to put stuff in there that would stop it because I really didn’t want to feel it.
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At this time, there weren’t any drugs
around in my hometown.
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If there were drugs around when I was 13,
I would have been a 13 year old
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heroin addict - and probably dead by now - but there weren't drugs.
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The drugs didn't start till I was 20 years old,
which is quite late these days
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because I see young people now aged
10, 11 or 12 taking drugs, smoking dope,
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doing cocaine - crack is a big thing -
but they weren’t around.
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Once I started - I can remember
I was in Shepton Mallet Prison
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when I was first introduced to smoking dope, and within two months,
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I was injecting myself with drugs, because these drugs could help me not to feel.
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But it was only temporary
because you’d have to put more
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and more drugs in to stop feeling - because this energy was always in motion,
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emotion was always trying to fight
to come to the surface.
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I went berserk. I was crazy before drugs but after drugs, I completely lost the plot.
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I was like a modern-day vampire.
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A vampire only wants blood;
it is not interested in anything else.
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When I was a drug addict, I seriously didn't care about anything else in my life,
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but just getting drugs to blot out
everything that was going on in my life.
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I actually did an armed robbery
in the street where I lived.
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Anyone with common sense would
plan an armed robbery.
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It wasn’t with a gun, it was with a baseball bat, running into a shop demanding money.
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Anyone with common sense would go
and do it away somewhere and plan it.
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I just wanted my next fix.
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I didn't think of my second fix,
it was my next fix.
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I did that armed robbery, got away with it, ended up back in prison for something else.
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By this time, prison had become a home.
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The problem with prison is that it breeds you to become institutionalised.
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It was my home. It no longer held any fear. It was a safe place for me.
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But even then, because I had this stuff going on inside, I would do things in prison.
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One of the staff here remembers me -
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I went away to the doctor because
I wanted more drugs off him
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and four screws (prison officers) carried me down into the strip cell.
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I would threaten doctors;
I would steal from them.
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I remember in the hospital,
I knew where the drugs were kept.
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I stole from there.
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I was just out of control.
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I would be put in the block quite regularly
because I couldn't face other people.
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I was at the point in my life where I just
didn't want to be around people,
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because I had no self-worth.
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I just hated myself. I hated my life.
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I hated myself and had
no confidence whatsoever.
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I remember then being sent to a prison called Erlestoke Prison.
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And while I was there,
you might laugh at this -
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I had six weeks left of my sentence
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but I just needed more drugs and I escaped from prison with six weeks left.
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I had no thought of, ‘If I escape, why would I do another 6 to 12 months?’
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I just wanted a fix.
I just had to get out of prison.
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I got out of this prison,
climbed up this 20ft high fence,
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and I could remember the feeling
on the top of the fence.
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When you look up at a fence, it doesn’t look as high as when you are looking down.
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When I was looking down, I can remember
thinking, ‘When I jump from here,
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if I fall and break my leg,
I am going to look like a complete idiot.’
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But I managed to get away
and go back to my hometown.
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I was only out for ten days,
but in that time I took loads of drugs
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and I actually smuggled a load
back into prison, which was my intention.
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It didn't bother me that I would
have to do six months extra.
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Obviously, they have got to punish you
and I was sent to Dartmoor Prison.
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At that time, prison was the place where society sent people who broke the rules.
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Dartmoor was a place where prisons
sent prisoners who broke the rules.
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It was the absolute pits, in the middle
of nowhere, on the Dartmoor moors,
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in a place called Princetown.
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And, apparently there's
a sign engraved in stone -
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it was built for French prisoners of war -
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and it says in Latin,
‘Abandon hope, all who enter’.
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And it was as if I had arrived at a destination that agreed with how I felt.
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I had abandoned hope of ever changing,
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ever finding a girlfriend,
a wife, having children.
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I never used to think of those things.
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It was so far away from where I was in life.
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I just thought that I am going to
spend the rest of my life in prison.
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And I can remember being in Dartmoor -
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there were some scary
prisoners down there.
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People would just stab you
or beat you for nothing.
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I can remember thinking,
‘Look how far I’ve come in life’
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because I was still this
rejected little boy inside.
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But on the outside,
I thought I'd become like these -
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I'd become like all these
crazy people down here.
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And it was a real eye opener.
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And the first time I heard someone mentioning God, my friend ‘Artie’ -
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I had received a letter from another
friend saying, ‘Artie is into God’.
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And I didn't think, ‘God? What's he doing? Is he off his head?’
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I thought ‘Good for him’.
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And I started praying - it was not a silly prayer, but I had never prayed.
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I had no knowledge of anything
outside of the life I lived.
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And I started saying this prayer,
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“When I lay me down to sleep,
I pray the Lord my soul to keep...”
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Obviously, God was
starting something in me.
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The last night in Dartmoor Prison,
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as much as I hated it,
I was scared of being released
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because I knew that I was
fed up of committing crime.
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I was fed up of taking drugs,
and I was fed up of hurting people.
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But no one could show
me a way to change.
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I always wanted to change.
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And I've never met a drug addict
who doesn't want to change.
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I've never, ever met them.
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I had to get released but I didn't want
to because I was safe in there.
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As mad as it was, it was like a zoo.
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As mad as it was, I was safe there.
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Anyway, I got out of there, went
absolutely berserk on the drugs.
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I was injecting drugs.
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I was breaking into chemist shops,
doing all sorts of things and
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ended up in this house and they
started telling me about Jesus.
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And I ‘flipped’ on them.
I swore at them and said,
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‘Where was He when this happened?
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When this abuse happened,
where was He?’
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I didn’t use those nice words
but a lot stronger language.
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And they said, ‘You need to
ask Jesus into your life.’
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And apparently, I prayed the sinner’s prayer.
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I can't remember it, which is a first,
because most people remember
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praying a sinner's prayer; I can't
remember it but, apparently, I did.
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From that moment on,
things started to change.
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I can remember committing this burglary,
and I was cutting the telephone wires.
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And this thought came to me.
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I've had rushes from the craziest drugs and rushes where the hairs on
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your hands stand up and
you are buzzing inside.
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I had the biggest rush.
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This thought came to me and the
thought was, ‘I'm watching you’.
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And this rush came through
my body and I knew
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without a shadow of a doubt
that it was God speaking to me.
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I came from a world where God didn't exist.
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I carried on with the burglary but this thing stuck in my head - what had happened.
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So I carried on committing crime,
and every now and again,
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someone would say something about God.
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And Artie, my friend, came to see
me and the girl I was with at the time.
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And we went to church, and I wouldn't say
that anything happened, but at that time
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I was having the craziest thoughts as well - quite scary thoughts.
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And I was scared of following them through - violence and other things.
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And my mate said to me, ‘The
Bible says to take every thought
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captive to be obedient to Christ.’
I said, ‘So what do you mean?’
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‘Well, just tell your thoughts
to stop in the name of Jesus.’
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So there I am in my house, a non-Christian,
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saying in my head, ‘In the name of Jesus, stop!’
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When I saw him, I said,
‘It's working, it’s working!’
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These thoughts would stop.
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And, obviously, God was at work.
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I ended up back in prison.
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This time, He was having me.
The ‘chase’ was on.
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I can remember, as I said,
I’d steal from the hospital over there
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and I managed to get hold
of a bag full of drugs.
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The ‘screws’ came through my cell.
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They couldn't find the drugs;
we’d taken most of them.
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I was carted down to the strip cell.
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I'm sitting in the strip cell with
a pair of rubber shorts on
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so that you can't cut your
clothes to hang yourself,
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although there's no windows so you couldn’t hang yourself anyway.
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I remember sitting there thinking,
‘How far have I come?
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How much further am I going to go in life?”
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You're only allowed to
stay in there for six hours.
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So they came to get me and they
put me in the punishment block.
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The strip cell is in the block
but the block is just a cell.
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It's still a punishment cell,
but not like the strip cell.
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Normally, they empty it.
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When the prisoner leaves the block, they
completely empty the cell of everything.
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Well, I went into the cell and there were
a load of books - Christian books.
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And there was one by Frank Constantino,
a gangster from America.
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So I started reading this book, how he’d met God and Jesus, and I started crying.
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Now, I never cried because
I spent my life hiding from how I felt.
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And as soon as I started crying,
I started kicking the cell door.
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And this ‘screw’ came, Barry.
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I said, ‘Put me back in that strip cell!’
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because I just could not
handle the emotion.
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And he said, ‘Here, Andy, have a fag’
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and he gave me a cigarette to
smoke and calm me down.
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And so I went back in the cell and
carried on reading the book,
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went back on the landing,
then still carried on going crazy.
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But every couple of weeks, I’d get this thought and the thought was,
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‘You ain't getting out of here
until you come to Me.’
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And I'd go, ‘Oh yeah, I'm coming.’
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And I would go and take drugs.
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And two weeks later, ‘You are not getting out of here until you come to Me.’
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I was talking to a God that I didn't
know or even believe in.
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So one day, I had this instant thought,
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‘I want to get shipped out’,
which is to be sent to another prison.
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Now, at that time, there was a
three month waiting list.
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I went down to what’s called the allocation.
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And Barry, that officer, was in and
I said, ‘Barry, I need to get out of here.’
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He said, ‘You are going on Tuesday.’
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So I went to this prison called
Channings Wood, which was semi-open,
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where you could walk around on the inside.
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And one of the main buildings
in that place was the church.
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So I started going there and I started hearing about born-again Christians.
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I would read my Bible and
I'd read it for three days.
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I was still smoking dope and doing other drugs, but I would read my Bible.
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Then I’d chuck it away thinking
that it was a load of nonsense.
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And then I would go back to the church, pick my Bible back up and read it.
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I would then throw it away
thinking it was a load of nonsense.
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And, one day I was reading the Bible
and it said, ‘If a man cannot make himself
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grow a foot, why worry about the least of things?’
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And at that time I was having
Valium off the doctor.
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I was horrible to the doctor. I used to threaten him, ‘I want more drugs!’
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So I said, ‘Okay, if that's true - why worry about the least of things - take my Valium off me.’
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And at that moment, my desire
for the Valium disappeared.
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I stopped going three times a day
to pick up my Valium.
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The doctor must have thought
I'd ‘lost the plot’ or something.
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That was just a start.
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One day, I jumped off my bed and I said,
‘I am not stopping until I find You.’
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And as I said that... I knew
nothing about the Holy Spirit.
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I knew nothing about the
baptism in the Holy Spirit.
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I knew nothing about Christianity.
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But at that moment, I now know the Holy Spirit came and filled me so full.
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It literally felt like Jesus was
coming into my body.
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I was crying my eyes out -
nice crying, not horrible crying.
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And it was such a relief.
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But at the same time, I had this
revelation that Jesus was alive.
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So once I’d had this experience, I was ‘mental’.
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I would go around the prison...
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One minute I'm a drug addict,
running around to score drugs,
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and all of a sudden I'm just telling
everyone about Jesus.
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And I think they thought I’d ‘flipped my lid’.
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I can remember in the communal bath,
I was singing ‘Jesus loves me’.
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They thought I'd ‘lost the plot’.
And I can understand why!
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I couldn't wait to get back into my cell because in my cell,
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as soon as I was there, I’d be crying.
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It's like this emotion that had driven my life,
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which had caused me to do things
that I'm ashamed of,
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which had locked me away in strip cells -
all this emotion was coming out.
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So I’d go to work in the workshops and
I just couldn't wait to get back into my cell,
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because to me, I know Jesus was in me,
but He was in my cell especially.
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And strange things started happening
to me - spiritual things.
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I now know they were demonic things.
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Because what I found in life is that wherever there is traumatic pain,
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the devil takes advantage of that.
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And here I was in a cell with things happening that wouldn’t have happened before.
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I thought I was going crazy.
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After three days, three days after being born again, I put myself in the psychiatric
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part of the prison because
I thought I was going insane.
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Because I had all this, which I now know
is demonic stuff, happening.
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I could remember being in that cell,
in the psychiatric unit, thinking,
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‘I’ve lost the plot; I’ve completely lost it’
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because I had these
manifestations happening.
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I had no one around me to talk to me.
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I can remember writing a letter to
my girlfriend at the time, saying,
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‘Look, I can't come back to my hometown. Something's happened to me.
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I am losing the plot. My head's gone.
I've got these spiritual things happening.
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And, sorry I can't come home.’
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And the letter was sitting there.
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The next minute, the doctor,
who I used to terrify to get drugs off,
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came in and sat on my bed and
he said, ‘What's the matter?’
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I said, ‘I can't tell you.’
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He said, ‘What's the matter? Tell me.’
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I said, ‘I can't tell you.’
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He said, ‘Please tell me what's the matter?’
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So I gave him the letter.
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He read it and he said,
‘I am a born-again Christian.’
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This was the first Christian
that I'd ever come across
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who understood what I was going through.
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And I got out of prison.
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I can remember driving a car thinking,
‘Should I tax and insure this car?’
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I'd lived so far outside the law that I just didn't know how to live within the law.
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So I parked the car away, saved money, and put tax and insurance on it.
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And little things like that - if I knew
it was wrong, I’d try and do it right.
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Then my life started coming together.
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I joined the church - a very supportive church that had people coming to help us.
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We had absolutely nothing - me and my partner at the time when we got married.
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We had nothing and there was a baby due.
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And we had people from the church
come in with a new cot,
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with a washing machine, and they just looked after us and loved us.
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Over the years, people would
come to me and they'd say,
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‘Your life’s changed. How can mine?’
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I’d just say, ‘Well, I asked
Jesus to come into my life.’
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I had five people at once living in my house, all coming off heroin and other drugs -
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which I wouldn’t recommend to anyone.
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But at that time, it was
the way I was led to go.
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And, around that time, the church I was with acquired quite a large, old factory.
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I asked for a part of it, which was
an old shed with holes in the roof,
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asbestos roof etc. - and that’s
where we started ‘Chooselife’.
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As I said, ‘Chooselife’ is a drug
and alcohol intervention service.
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It's been going 28 years now.
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We've seen people come to us from all walks of life - a lot of people.
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The world is suffering.
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There's so many fatherless families, motherless families, abuse.
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You wouldn't believe the stories of physical, verbal, sexual abuse
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that I hear on a daily basis;
they are in pain.
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Sadly, we’ve seen people who've made good choices, then made not so good choices.
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And they've overdosed.
They're no longer with us.
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That's the reality of working with
people in drugs and alcohol.
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But also we've seen people who were heroin addicts, crack addicts,
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and when you see them meeting Jesus -
the Jesus I know,
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the Jesus that comes to set you free
and love you unconditionally,
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not based on what you do,
but based on what He’s done -
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when you see people's lives change
like that, it's absolutely amazing.
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I’ve got some really good friends that I could name who’ve seen their lives transformed.
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I just love what I do here
on a daily basis.
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We’ve been doing this for 28 years.
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Not one day have I woke up thinking,
‘Oh, I’ve got go to Chooselife today’.
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I just love what I do.
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And someone said that
if you love what you do,
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you never have to work
another day in your life.
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I refuse to call what I do work.
Yes, I get paid for it.
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But I love what I do here -
seeing people’s lives transformed.
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But also loving the people
that society rejects.
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We provide a hot meal every day
for people to take away.
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We've got accommodation with
31 beds in the community.
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We are just supporting people, loving people, hoping that one day,
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they'll find a way of dealing with the (normally) childhood trauma
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that they’ve hidden away from all their life.
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And childhood trauma could be a simple thing like mum and dad separating,
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to the extreme of physical,
verbal, sexual abuse.
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To each person it’s different and
we absorb things differently.
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But especially when you see God
dealing with someone's past pain,
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there's nothing more beautiful - seeing them become whole and complete.
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Trust me, where there are things
that happened in your life,
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the devil only needs a little gap
because he wants to go in there.
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And I know people who work in that area, move in that area.
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Have a look for this ministry -
God’s Heart TV, which I came across.
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Brother Chris prayed for me in the past.
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There are other ministries out there.
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Seek your healing and
seek your deliverance.
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Because the Bible says that Jesus came to destroy the works of the devil.
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That's the reason He came.
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He didn't come to make you feel better.
He came to make you set free.
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He came to destroy the works of the devil.
And trust me, He can do it.
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Whoever you are today,
wherever you are watching this -
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no one is too far away from God's love.
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Because God's love can get you
wherever you are.
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He came to me in the prison cell.
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He had the key to my cell and came in.
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He took me - I am no longer
the person that I was.
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This is 33 years. This is my 33rd year,
entering my 34th year...
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I couldn't stay out of prison for six weeks.
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In fact, six weeks was one of my longest times I stayed out of prison. 33 years!
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If He can reach me, He can reach you.
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He’s not a ‘religious’ God; He’s a loving God.
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He’s a God that loves you unconditionally.
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There's not much more I can say -
just if you ask Him...
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I asked Him, ‘Jesus, if You’re there,
come and touch my life.’
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You can say exactly the same.
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You might know someone whose
got a problem with drugs or alcohol,
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and it's so consuming - it consumes
the whole family.
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And normally you suffer more than the addict because the addict
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is intoxicated going through it.
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And I get asked all the time, ‘How do we deal with our son, our daughter?’
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And firstly, you have to put boundaries in
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to protect yourself and the other
members of your family.
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You can pray for that person,
love that person.
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But love and discipline
have to go together.
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You can't just love and give and give.
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I hear mums who say, ‘I gave him £10 to save him stealing; I gave him this...’
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At the end of the day,
love and discipline go together.
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‘I will always care for you.
I will always love you.
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But this far and no further.’
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You have to put that discipline
around yourselves as a family
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and ultimately trust that God wants your family member in a relationship with Him
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far more than you will ever want them to.
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So He’s at work.
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There’s a song that says, ‘He’s working even when you think He’s not working.’
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He’s always at work.
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And He will draw your son
or daughter to Himself,
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and He takes a mess and will turn
that mess into a message.
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You might not see it, but it will happen.
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Just keep believing it's going to happen.
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Your job in the meantime is to
love your son or daughter
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in a way that protects you as a family.