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    Hi everyone, my name is Brad Zaknich from
    GESB, and I'd like to thank you very much
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    for logging onto today's recorded webinar,
    so it's not a live one today,
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    it's recorded and it's about investing
    in super 101. So we're gonna go through
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    the ideas of investing through
    superannuation compared to investing
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    in other formats. So, for those who
    haven't used webinars before, very simple
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    technology, sit back and relax. Some of
    the normal interactive opportunities we
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    have with webinars has been turned off
    for today's session, obviously things like
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    typing in questions and clicking send,
    you can't do that today because there's
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    no-one to reply to them. So what we'll do
    is get through some of the housekeeping.
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    What we're showing you here is what you
    already would have received, well, in fact
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    what you're going to be receiving, is a
    webinar survey follow-up email, we do
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    still love to get feedback, even with
    recorded webinars, so if you wouldn't mind
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    setting a few moments it takes to complete
    that, that'd be greatly appreciated.
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    The webinar, like I said, is being
    recorded, and you'll be able to sit back,
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    watch it at your own leisure. You can move
    forward, you can go back in the slides,
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    and you can watch it as many times as you
    like, and from my understanding, this
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    webinar will be staying live on the GESB
    website, so probably around the end of
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    the financial year, at which point we'll
    most likely get a new presentation up.
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    Now, I'd first love to show my respect
    and acknowledge the traditional custodians
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    of this land, of Elders past, present and
    emerging, on which this event takes place.
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    And then you've got the all-important
    disclaimer. When talking about
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    superannuation, investing, money, finance,
    it's important that you understand that
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    we're not giving you personalised
    financial advice today. My job today is to
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    provide you with information, explain
    things, explain how things work.
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    It's not to get you to make a decision
    based on what I'm saying. So if you do
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    need personalised financial advice,
    you'll need to go elsewhere to get that,
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    as GESB only provides you general advice.
    Now in today's session there is a lot to
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    get through, some of which might be
    concepts that you're familiar with,
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    and some maybe not. So in this session
    we're gonna talk about the basics of
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    investing, and we're gonna talk about
    things like income tax, and how that
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    impacts investing, budgeting, where to use
    your money, borrowing, and debt.
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    Also going to talk about with investment
    concepts, the idea of compounding
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    interest, the value of superannuation,
    understanding the different asset classes
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    that exist within super, and what
    investment options are available.
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    Now hopefully you all know who GESB is,
    I work for GESB, GESB is a state
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    government department, and it just stands
    for Government Employee Superannuation
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    Board. Now we've been around for over
    85 years, we've grown over $42 billion
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    in funds under management as of 31st
    December 2024, and GESB, being a
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    government department, we're a
    not-for-profit organisation.
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    So the only fees we collect from you,
    through your super, through your insurances
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    are to run the fund, we are
    not-for-profit. And our returns are
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    competitive and long-term.
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    In regards to GESB's product structure,
    people often get a little confused,
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    but it's quite simple. GESB at the top
    of the tree there stands for Government
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    Employee Superannuation Board. Below that
    are the different schemes that we
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    administer. Now we're got some old
    legacy schemes like the Pension scheme
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    and the Gold State Super scheme,
    we're not going to be talking about
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    those at all today, okay, they don't sit
    within the bounds of today's presentation.
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    We're predominantly going to be talking
    about superannuation, that are in the
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    accumulation phase, and are accumulation
    accounts, so West State Super, GESB Super,
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    and some of the other invest, general
    super funds that work in a similar fashion.
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    When we speak about stuff that is general,
    superannuation, I'll make that very
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    well-known. When we're talking about
    anything that might be GESB specific,
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    I'll also make that well-known. What we're
    not going to talk about in great detail
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    today, or if at all, are the allocated
    pensions. They are the retired products
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    that most people use to draw down their
    retirement savings.
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    Well let's quickly talk about West State
    and GESB Super because there are some
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    differences between the two of them,
    and you need to be aware. So, West State
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    Super was the default super fund for
    WA State Public Servants who commenced
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    working for the government prior to
    15 April 2007. The reason that is
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    important is that after April 2007, new
    employees to the public sector might have
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    had a GESB Super account open, or perhaps
    some other super fund, Hesta, Australian Super,
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    Hostplus, something like that. The reason
    it's important to know, is that most
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    Australian funds like GESB Super, and most
    other funds, are considered to be taxed
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    super schemes. Why is this important?
    The government allows super contributions
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    to be contributed at a lower rate of tax
    than your normal pay. We need to remember
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    that super comes under the tax regime,
    and GESB super, like most Australian funds
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    is a tax scheme and that simply means
    when your employer puts money into your
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    super fund, through your employers' 11.5%
    super guarantee, or you put extra money in
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    through your payroll process called
    salary sacrifice. Those contributions are
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    only taxed at 15%, compared to
    your normal tax rates through your income.
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    But it happens on the way into your
    account, and while your money's still
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    invested. If however you've got a West
    State Super account, your money's are
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    not taxed on the way in, because it's
    called an 'untaxed super scheme'.
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    So the money's from your employers'
    contributions and any salary sacrifice are
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    not taxed on the way into your account so
    the full contribution hits your account.
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    Any investment earnings or growth in your
    fund would normally be taxed at 15% in
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    a regular fund, they are not taxed in
    West State Super whilst the money remains
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    in West State Super, but what happens
    however is when you take your money
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    out of the West State scheme, that is
    when the 15% tax gets applied.
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    So it's important that you understand the
    difference, and there are some other
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    differences to talk about in a little
    while as well.
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    Now, when we talk about tax, you need
    to remember as well that the way the
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    Australian tax system works is relative to
    your income, is the more income that
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    you earn, the more tax you generally pay.
    So up to the first $18,200 you earn in
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    earnings through your salary, through your
    income, there is no tax applicable to that
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    income for most Australians. But once your
    salary gets above $18,201, up to $45,000,
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    I shouldn't say salary, I should say
    income, in that bracket your income is
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    taxed at 16%, okay, for every dollar over
    $18,201, up to $45,000.
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    Then, if you're earning over $45,001 per
    year, the earnings between $45,001 and
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    $135,00, that portion alone is taxed at
    30%. So people often think 'well I'm
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    earning over $45 grand a year, I must be
    paying 30% tax.' Yes, but only on the money
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    you're earning, above $45,000. And as your
    salary goes into the new higher brackets,
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    you pay more tax on the extra earnings.
    Now, as I said earlier, money's going into
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    superannuation from your employer's
    contributions, and through the process
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    called salary sacrifice. They are not
    taxed at your marginal, personal tax rate.
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    They are instead taxed at 15%. So when you
    talk about that, you can see that money's
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    being earned over 45 grand are normally
    taxed at 30%, money going into your super
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    are only going to be taxed at 15% maximum.
    That is the benefit of superannuation,
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    so let's go through this. Let's start
    talking about investing money, finances,
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    all those sort of things, and first thing
    when I talk about this is the basics of
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    investing and knowing where your money
    comes from.
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    So knowing where your money goes is
    extremely important, being able to track
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    your spending is an extremely important
    part of looking after your money.
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    Planning your goals, whether they be
    short-term, medium-term, or long-term,
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    basics of knowing where your money comes
    from, and what you're gonna spend it on.
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    But also being a smart borrower. There's
    nothing wrong with borrowing money,
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    but some would argue, borrowing money to
    purchase something that is declining in
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    value may not be a smart borrow, but
    that's up to the individual to decide how
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    they want to do that. Also understanding
    compounding interest.
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    Interest earnt, people understand that
    maybe I'm making, for example, a 7%
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    return on my money, but when you
    understand that compounding interest is
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    interest on top of interest on top of
    interest, that's extremely powerful.
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    Albert Einstein once said 'compound
    interest is the eighth wonder of the
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    world, he who understands it, earns it.
    He who doesn't, pays it.' Something to
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    think about there. Well let's firstly talk
    about budgeting.
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    So there is a concept called the
    'bucketing approach', cause when we talk
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    about budgeting, people get quite
    concerned and they think very heavily
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    about every cent that this, and every
    individual item, and that is fair enough.
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    But if you simplify things in budgeting
    into a simpler approach, it might be as
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    simple as dividing your income into three
    buckets, or three aspects of your income.
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    And you might allocate, for example, 50%
    of your income to your needs, so for
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    example your home loan, your rent,
    groceries, utilities and your insurances.
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    So 50% is just a concept, you might have
    more than that, you might have less,
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    but when you identify an amount of
    money, that is used for your needs, set
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    that money aside and you know that your
    needs are covered.
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    And then you might have your wants, and
    you might decide to allocate maybe 30%
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    of your income to your wants. And they can
    be things like your, upgrading needs,
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    money's for evenings out, hobbies,
    sporting events, holidays, but upgrading
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    needs we might talk about maintenance
    on your home, new cars, things like that.
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    And then you might decide to allocate
    20% of your income towards savings.
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    And that might be an emergency fund for
    when things go wrong, or maybe long-term
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    savings for things off in the future,
    that might include other investments like
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    superannuation, shares, property, but it
    also might include the overpayment of your
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    debt, so paying extra money to pay off
    loans might be considered to be savings.
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    And when you break it down into 50%, 30%
    and 20%, it's a very reasonable starting
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    point, you might decide to put more money
    into savings, less into wants, but by
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    having a structure, makes it easier to
    stick to that structure, and identify what
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    you're going to be putting your money
    into.
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    Let's now talk about being a smart
    borrower. Borrowing money is for most
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    people, a necessity in life, for certain
    things, but not all debt is equal, it will
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    depend on the purpose of the loan,
    it will depend on the interest rates
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    you're paying, how often and how much
    your payments are going to be, and it
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    should be consolidating different debts,
    or different loans, into one.
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    So for example, when they say 'not all
    debt is equal', if you're borrowing money
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    from a bank or institution, as an
    example, and maybe you're borrowing it
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    and you're having to pay, 5% interest
    or 6% interest to borrow that money,
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    but maybe you're borrowing that money
    to purchase something that's going to
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    increase in value by 7, 8, 9 or 10%
    per year, that might be said as being
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    'good debt'. Whereas 'bad debt' might be
    be something as simple as paying for a
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    holiday where you don't have much to show
    for it at the end and you're paying extra
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    when you get back by way of interest.
    So understand, borrowing money is not
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    necessarily a bad thing, but understanding
    when you should, shouldn't borrow to
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    purchase things is something
    that you have to decide.
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    Now lets now talk about compounding
    interest, I'm gonna go through the example
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    we quite often use. Compounding interest
    is basically earning interest on top of
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    previously earned interest. So let's look
    at a case study of Jenny, who invests
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    $10,000 over a five year period. Now she's
    gonna, let's say in her example, she
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    receives 5% per annum compounded interest,
    compounded on a monthly basis.
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    Now, and the end of five years, her
    investments actually gonna grow to $12,834.
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    She's not just earning 5% on $10,000,
    so let's see how this works.
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    If she invests $10,000 at the start of
    year 1, by compounding interest at 5%
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    per annum monthly, she's doesn't end up
    with $500, which would be if she
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    compounded once, she ends up with $512,
    it's actually more than 5% over the 12
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    months because it's been compounded
    monthly. So at the beginning of the next
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    year she's got $512, which she earns 5%
    interest compounded monthly, for the next
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    12 months, she accumulates $538.
    Ends up with $11,049, and you can see over
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    five years, the interests that's been
    compounded grows, 512, 538, 565, 594, 625.
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    So compounding interest, when you leave
    investments alone, and they compound on
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    top of each other. It's investments'
    interest on top of the last lot of
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    interest returns. That's where leaving
    things long term can generate greater
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    levels of interest, because it's not
    simple interest, it's compound interest.
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    And that's where these slides come in,
    excuse me, time is money.
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    People often talk about 'timing the market',
    it's often more important to spend time
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    in the market. What do we mean by that?
    Well let's say for example, you've got
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    a 20-year-old, a 30-year-old, a 40 and a
    50-year-old, who all of a-side,
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    with a starting balance of nothing,
    they want to put an extra $50 a fortnight
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    perhaps even less, in superannuation.
    So let's just assume this is extra money
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    you're putting into your super, above and
    beyond what you might already be getting.
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    What difference will it make by putting
    $50 a fortnight, now let's assume an
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    annual earning rate of roughly 7.8%,
    so you're probably in the growth plan.
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    Now if you start when you're 20, an extra
    $50 a fortnight, taken out of the
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    conversation inflation and things like
    that, when you get to 60, so after 40
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    years, you'll have $345,758 extra sitting
    in your account.
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    By only putting in $50 a fortnight.
    Now if you don't start until you're 30,
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    now I've got $154,000, you don't start
    until you're 40, about $64,000,
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    you don't start until you're 50, it's
    $21,000. Now you can see, even though
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    they're only 10-year periods separating
    each starting point, the amounts of
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    difference are massive. Because the person
    starting making contributions earlier,
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    is getting compounding interest every
    month on top of the contributions that
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    have already grown. And that's why the
    balance can be quite large, by putting in
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    significantly small amounts of money,
    if you start really early.
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    Well let's now focus on that $345,000
    because we know that starting at 20,
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    over 40 years, should generate a figure
    that's similar to that.
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    But what if, you need that amount of
    money, but you don't start when you're 20.
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    Well if you don't start 'til you're 30,
    to meet the same objective, you'll need to
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    put in $112 a fortnight, significantly
    more. If you don't start 'til you're 40,
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    now you've gotta do $270 a fortnight,
    for a much shorter period of time.
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    And if you don't start 'til you're 50,
    now it's $807 per fortnight.
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    So this is where compounding interest can
    work against you, the longer you wait to
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    start making investments. And because
    superannuation can't be accessed,
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    generally until the age of 60 anyway,
    for a lot of people making extra
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    contributions in super, the benefits of
    compounding interest come along anyway,
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    because you can't get access to it.
    But what it does say, is if you want to
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    start growing your super, the earlier you
    start, generally speaking, the less amount
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    you've gotta make as a contribution
    a fortnight.
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    And what is the value of superannuation
    to you? Well the value of super is this;
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    It's a very tax-advantaged saving scheme
    for retirement, often more, better tax
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    advantages than you're gonna get through
    your income tax rates.
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    Why is superannuation compulsory, and it's
    been compulsory since 1992, it's so that
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    you have an alternative to, or a
    supplement for, the age pension.
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    The age pension, is not going to disappear
    anytime soon, but it is still seen as
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    being only a safety net for retirement.
    Because we've been getting compulsory
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    super now since 1992.
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    And the value of super for you might be
    to give you the options in retirement
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    that you might not otherwise have, by just
    relying on the age pension, or even just
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    compulsory super, maybe making extra
    contributions, will meet your objectives,
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    as to what your lifestyle might look like
    in retirement.
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    Now there are different ways of getting
    money into super, and the main way is
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    your employers' contributions.
    Now down on the left-hand side you can
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    see, you can put money in super through
    your employers' contributions, through
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    salary sacrifice through your payroll,
    voluntary after-tax contributions,
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    through cheque or B-pay or even through
    your payroll. There are also personal
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    deductible contributions which we're not
    going to go into great detail about today,
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    and there's also spouse contributions.
    But across the top, there are two main
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    forms of contributions. One is called
    concessional contributions, one is called
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    non-concessional.
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    What is the difference? The difference
    comes down to the name. Concessional
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    contributions are moneys' that go into
    your super before you pay your income tax.
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    So when I showed you before that for
    most Australians earning over $30,000 a
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    year, most of us are paying 30% tax on a
    fair chunk of our income.
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    So for when you have a non-concessional
    contribution, that means you've earned
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    your money, you've generally paid your
    tax on your income, which could be 30%.
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    So if you earn $1000, you might lose 30%
    being 300, you can get $700 into your
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    super, that would be a non-concessional
    contribution. But when putting money
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    into your super as a concessional
    contribution, the money comes out of your
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    income, before it gets taxed at your
    regular tax rate and instead goes into
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    your super and will only be taxed at 15%.
    So you earn $1000, only to lose 15%,
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    you're left with $850. So superannuation
    concessional contributions is like earning
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    $1000 and being able to invest $850,
    whereas non-concessional contributions,
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    which you can invest in anywhere, might
    otherwise be earning $1000 and only
  • 17:31 - 17:35
    getting $700 invested. That's the benefit
    of superannuation.
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    And what this slide here is showing,
    excuse me, is normally you earn your
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    salary, your salary gets taxed at your
    marginal tax rate, think 30-odd percent or
  • 17:44 - 17:48
    possibly more, at the top end, and money
    goes into your bank account.
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    Money that you can buy and invest
    elsewhere, the interest or earnings are
  • 17:53 - 17:59
    also taxed at your marginal tax rate.
    But when you put money into superannuation
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    through your salary, through salary
    sacrifice, it'll only be taxed at 15%,
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    either on the way into your account with
    most super funds like GESB, Australian
  • 18:07 - 18:12
    Super and Hesta, or the money on the way
    out, with West State Super, still 15%.
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    And not just that, not only do you pay
    only 15% tax on the contributions, you
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    only pay 15% tax on the investment
    earnings, as opposed to your marginal tax
  • 18:23 - 18:30
    rate. Now because superannuation
    is considered to be a tax-effective savings
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    strategy for your retirement, that's why
    the government's put in place, they also
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    understand, that by saving for your
    retirement, the government is going to
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    receive less tax now, than if you hadn't
    put it through your pay.
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    That's why they limit the amount you're
    allowed to put into your superannuation
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    through what are called concessional
    contributions. Now for most Australian
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    funds, being taxed funds, GESB, Hesta,
    Australian Super, that sort of fund, the
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    limitation per year is $30,000 per year.
    And that includes your employers super
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    contributions, so you could already be
    getting 11 and a half percent in super,
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    you're allowed to go above and beyond
    that up to $30,000, per year to grow your
  • 19:07 - 19:12
    superannuation savings. If you go above
    that, you're not penalised as such, but
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    the excess contributions will be taxed
    at your marginal tax rate.
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    Now, for those of you who might have a
    West State Super, or indeed a Gold State
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    Super Account those concessional
    contributions of an annual $30,000 limit,
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    do not apply to you. Instead, you've got
    what's called an untaxed plan cap,
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    and as that currently stands, that is
    $1.78 million in your lifetime.
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    And that gets indexed every year.
    So that means, if you've got West Side
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    Super for example, irrespective of
    what your employer's putting into your
  • 19:44 - 19:48
    employers' contributions, you can salary
    sacrifice above and beyond that, past the
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    $30,000 per year, up to $1.78 million over
    your lifetime.
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    So that's an important consideration of
    West State that provides benefits that may
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    not be applicable in other super funds.
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    However, there is one thing you need to
    consider. Whilst West State Super does not
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    have an annual limitation, like every
    other super fund, there is a correlation
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    between West State, and other super funds.
    So what this example here is showing is
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    this, let's say I've got a West State Super
    account, but maybe I've got another tax
  • 20:20 - 20:24
    super fund, like Hesta, or Australian
    Super, or maybe a self-managed super
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    fund. What this slide here is showing is,
    if I'm putting in $20,000 per year,
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    of concessional contributions into West
    State, that's okay, I can still put
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    $10,000 of concessional contributions
    into another fund, without breaching the
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    $30,000 cap. Now, in example two,
    if I put in $30,000 a year into West
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    State, that is also okay, even though the
    $30,000 limit does not apply to West State,
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    by putting $30,000 into West State, all of
    a sudden, whatever I'm putting into West
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    State counts against whatever I'm putting
    into any other Australian super fund,
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    tax super fund. So if I'm putting $30,000
    into West State through salary sacrifice,
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    and employer contributions, at that point,
    if any extra moneys' are going into a tax
  • 21:07 - 21:11
    super fund, as a concessional
    contribution, that amount is now in breach
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    of the concessional contributions cap.
    And as per example slide three, if I'm
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    putting $50,000 into West State, that's
    not a problem, but it means anything going
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    into any other fund as a concessional
    contribution is in breach of the
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    concessional cap. So please be mindful
    of that if you've got multiple super funds.
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    Now, irrespective of which super
    fund you've got, the non-concessional
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    contribution cap is, for example, money I
    might have in the bank, money I might have
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    already saved, money I might be getting
    from an inheritance.
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    Moneys' that I either don't need to pay
    tax on, or I've already paid tax on.
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    I could put that into my West State
    account, or GESB account or any other
  • 21:51 - 21:56
    super fund. And the amount that you're
    limited to is $120,000 per year, up to
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    the age of 75. If I happen to go over
    $120,000 per year, it's not a major
  • 22:01 - 22:07
    problem, provided I don't put in more
    than $360,000 over a three-year period.
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    So what that's saying here is, if I put
    $120,000 in this year, 120 the following
  • 22:11 - 22:15
    year, 120 the following year, no problem.
  • 22:15 - 22:19
    But let's say, for example, I accidentally
    put in $150,000 this year, I don't have a
  • 22:19 - 22:23
    problem, but what happens is for this year
    and the next two years, the government
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    says the most you can put in is $360,000.
  • 22:27 - 22:31
    Now, you do not want to breach that cap
    because if you do, your excess gets taxed
  • 22:31 - 22:34
    at 47%. Now, there is something else to
    take into account.
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    Whilst there is an annual limits, at a
    three year limit to what you can put into
  • 22:39 - 22:44
    your super through non-concessional
    contributions, you can only make these
  • 22:44 - 22:50
    contributions if your balance in super
    is less than $1.9 million at the end of
  • 22:50 - 22:54
    the financial year. So what I would say is
    this, if you're planning on making
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    non-concessional contributions to your
    super, and you've got less than
  • 22:58 - 23:02
    $1.9 million, and you're under 75, you can
    still make these contributions.
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    But as you get closer to 75 years of age,
    please be aware, you need to contact your
  • 23:07 - 23:12
    super fund, 'cos once you're within three
    years of getting to 75, the amount you
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    can put in, you just need to be a little
    careful, when using the bring forward rule
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    because you might exceed that cap.
    So please contact your super fund
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    to understand how that works.
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    Now, let's start talk about the investment
    side of things.
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    Investment terms and concepts, so we're
    going to talk about unit prices, share
  • 23:29 - 23:33
    prices, dividends, and liquidity, we're
    gonna talk about asset classes, we're
  • 23:33 - 23:37
    gonna talk about risk profile and time
    horizon.
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    So what are unit prices,
    well unit prices are very similar to
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    shares, so in your super, when money
    goes into your superannuation fund,
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    what happens is you don't get a set level
    of return.
  • 23:47 - 23:52
    What actually happens is, we purchase
    investments at a certain price.
  • 23:52 - 23:57
    So if a unit is worth $1, and you put in
    $100 into your super, we buy 100
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    investments at a dollar per investment.
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    As the unit price goes up in value,
    the investments you've already got go up
  • 24:04 - 24:06
    in value, your balance goes up.
  • 24:06 - 24:11
    But it also means that extra money going
    into your super, buys less and less for
  • 24:11 - 24:15
    your dollar 'cos the new investments you're
    buying are getting more expensive.
  • 24:15 - 24:19
    Subsequently though, if unit prices drop,
    and you're putting money into your super,
  • 24:19 - 24:23
    you buy more for your dollar.
    So understanding how unit prices work is
  • 24:23 - 24:27
    extremely important with super, because
    even when markets go down, even though
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    your balance might fall, you actually get
    to buy more investments for your dollar
  • 24:31 - 24:36
    because you're getting more purchasing
    value, so please understand that.
  • 24:36 - 24:39
    Also, unit pricing provides liquidity
    because it means that when you resign
  • 24:39 - 24:44
    or retire and you want to access your
    super, you don't have to sell all your
  • 24:44 - 24:47
    superannuation investments to take some
    money out. Unit pricing provides
  • 24:47 - 24:52
    liquidity, you might decide to sell off
    $10,000 worth of investments to get the
  • 24:52 - 24:56
    money out. Now we're going to talk about
    asset classes shortly, we're also going to
  • 24:56 - 25:02
    talk about risk profile, and time horizon,
    in fact, I'll talk about time horizon now.
  • 25:02 - 25:07
    Time horizon is, how soon until I need my
    actual money. Why is that important?
  • 25:07 - 25:12
    If I need my money tomorrow, from my
    retirement savings, you may not want to
  • 25:12 - 25:17
    have your money invested in high growth or
    risky investments, because if the balance
  • 25:17 - 25:21
    you need is about what you've got now,
    then all of a sudden the market falls for
  • 25:21 - 25:25
    the next 12 months, if you're invested in
    a more volatile investment type,
  • 25:25 - 25:29
    and the market will drop, you might lose
    some of the value of that investment at a
  • 25:29 - 25:32
    time when you don't have time to recover
    the investment losses because you're
  • 25:32 - 25:37
    drawing down soon. However, on the
    flipside, if you don't need your
  • 25:37 - 25:42
    superannuation for 20 or 30 years, your
    time horizon is quite far off, you might
  • 25:42 - 25:46
    decide 'well my risk profile might be a
    little bit greater, which means I can
  • 25:46 - 25:50
    afford to take on more risk, maybe I can
    afford to take on more volatility,' because
  • 25:50 - 25:54
    the more volatile your investments are,
    the most risk they take on, the more
  • 25:54 - 25:58
    likely it is to go up, but the more likely
    it is to experience downturns.
  • 25:58 - 26:03
    As we all know, over the long term, more
    volatile investments do go up, yes they go
  • 26:03 - 26:08
    down, but they likely recover the losses
    in the medium-to long-term.
  • 26:08 - 26:12
    And that's why we talk about risk in
    super, super is not without risk.
  • 26:12 - 26:16
    There's legislative risk, the risk that
    the government may change the rules.
  • 26:16 - 26:19
    It has happened in the past, will likely
    happen in the future.
  • 26:19 - 26:24
    But the extent to which those risks come
    about with legislation, often or at the
  • 26:24 - 26:28
    top end, to reduce the amount of tax
    effectiveness that people can get, the
  • 26:28 - 26:31
    rules don't change that much or that often.
  • 26:31 - 26:37
    Then we've got investment risk, the risk
    that your investment may not achieve
  • 26:37 - 26:40
    your investment outcomes, that you're
    looking for.
  • 26:40 - 26:45
    So understand that even though markets
    go up and down, okay, that is the
  • 26:45 - 26:49
    investment risk. But avoiding risk might
    result in you not getting the return that
  • 26:49 - 26:52
    you actually want, it may not give you
    enough return.
  • 26:52 - 26:56
    Increasing investment risk may increase
    volatility, how much it goes up and down,
  • 26:56 - 26:59
    but hopefully should increase what you
    return in the end.
  • 26:59 - 27:03
    And restricted access is also a risk.
    Only put money into superannuation
  • 27:03 - 27:07
    you can afford to be without generally
    until the age of 60, because that's when
  • 27:07 - 27:09
    you get access to your super.
  • 27:09 - 27:14
    So managing your investment risk through
    the GESB website, we have an investment
  • 27:14 - 27:20
    tool in the GESB calculators area, there's
    one that allows you, called the
  • 27:20 - 27:25
    Investment Tool, to choose what investment
    profile you might want to take on.
  • 27:25 - 27:28
    Because in your super your money gets
    invested in Australian shares,
  • 27:28 - 27:32
    international shares, private equity,
    and other investment options.
  • 27:32 - 27:36
    Some are less, or more defensive, less
    aggressive, some are more growth-orientated
  • 27:36 - 27:39
    providing greater levels of return over
    the long-term.
  • 27:39 - 27:44
    Now, GESB takes what's called a
    multi-manager approach, by doing this
  • 27:44 - 27:47
    it means we spread your money far and
    wide, so whether you're in GESB Super,
  • 27:47 - 27:51
    West State or one of our retirement income
    pension options, you can choose to be
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    invested in cash, conservative, balanced,
    sustainable balanced, growth and a range
  • 27:56 - 28:00
    of other options. But even below that,
    when you look at the actual investment
  • 28:00 - 28:04
    managers we use, within the Australian
    share portfolio, we use about seven
  • 28:04 - 28:08
    different fund managers, within the
    property portfolio we use in excess of
  • 28:08 - 28:12
    10, we do this to spread the risk far
    and wide, which mitigates the chances of
  • 28:12 - 28:15
    the managers making mistakes and impacting
    you.
  • 28:15 - 28:19
    Because as you can see, different
    investments perform differently, so what
  • 28:19 - 28:23
    we like to do is take the risk away,
    so you don't have to choose one investment
  • 28:23 - 28:27
    or the other, and by taking the balanced
    approached for a lot of people, whether
  • 28:27 - 28:31
    it be in the growth plan, sustainable or
    my West State plan, what this graph is
  • 28:31 - 28:36
    showing is how the West State Super plan
    has performed since 2001.
  • 28:36 - 28:40
    Now even though a lot of you aren't in
    West State, maybe you're in GESB Super,
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    the reason we show West State first is
    because it goes back the furthest, which
  • 28:44 - 28:49
    allows you to see the impact of volatility
    growth has had on the investment markets.
  • 28:49 - 28:54
    And you can see, even though growth and
    the West State plan are the most important
  • 28:54 - 28:59
    aggressive of the plans, that also
    returned the greatest investment growth.
  • 28:59 - 29:04
    Whereas the cash plan, nice, slow and
    steady, doesn't perform overly well,
  • 29:04 - 29:07
    but it also doesn't achieve negatives.
  • 29:07 - 29:10
    Now you'll see over the last couple of
    years, or year or so, there's some orange
  • 29:10 - 29:14
    line, the sustainable balanced plan,
    it only shows a short-term because
  • 29:14 - 29:17
    we've only had it available for about
    12 months.
  • 29:17 - 29:21
    Now in West State Super there are five
    ready made plans to choose from,
  • 29:21 - 29:25
    and you get to choose from cash,
    conservative, the default plan if you've
  • 29:25 - 29:29
    not made an option, which used to be
    called the balanced plan, there's also
  • 29:29 - 29:33
    the sustainable balanced plan as well as
    growth. The growth plan is the most
  • 29:33 - 29:36
    aggressive, the cash plan is the least
    aggressive.
  • 29:36 - 29:39
    But you can also take the option to do
    a mix your plan.
  • 29:39 - 29:44
    This is where you can choose the exact
    allocation of investment types, from the
  • 29:44 - 29:47
    five asset classes that exist, you can
    change it as often as you want.
  • 29:47 - 29:53
    Now, the GESB Super. GESB Super only goes
    back to 2007 and as you can see when it
  • 29:53 - 29:56
    first started, that's when the global
    financial crisis hit.
  • 29:56 - 30:00
    But it still shows, that even though cash
    has been very steady along the middle,
  • 30:00 - 30:04
    the other investment plans have been more
    volatile, but have provided greater levels
  • 30:04 - 30:08
    of return. And you can actually plot these
    graphs on the GESB website through the
  • 30:08 - 30:13
    investment centre, and you can plot the
    cash, conservative, balanced, the default
  • 30:13 - 30:15
    plan, sustainable and the growth.
  • 30:15 - 30:19
    And as I said before, you can change your
    investment options as often as you want.
  • 30:19 - 30:24
    The benefit of investing through super is
    that firstly, it's a long-term investment
  • 30:24 - 30:27
    for most people. It means you pick and
    choose, you pick a fund or a plan that
  • 30:27 - 30:31
    suits your personality trait, you make
    those contributions, you can make extra
  • 30:31 - 30:35
    contributions, and because you can't
    access the money generally until you're
  • 30:35 - 30:39
    60, you get the benefit of compounding
    interest, without disturbing those
  • 30:39 - 30:42
    investments. So the next steps for you.
  • 30:42 - 30:46
    Try out investment planning tool to help
    determine what investment vehicle you
  • 30:46 - 30:49
    should be in. You might be a conservative
    person, that might just mean simply,
  • 30:49 - 30:52
    you need to take a less aggressive option
    with your investment.
  • 30:52 - 30:56
    However, if you understand that over the
    long-term, and you understand that the
  • 30:56 - 30:59
    ups and downs with investments might
    provide you with greater outcomes,
  • 30:59 - 31:02
    you might decide to go with more growth
    orientated options.
  • 31:02 - 31:08
    You can change as your personality changes,
    as your timeframes change for retirement.
  • 31:08 - 31:12
    You can review your investment choice
    through the member online facility,
  • 31:12 - 31:16
    go to the GESB website, top right-hand
    corner you can log-on to member online,
  • 31:16 - 31:18
    you can do it as often as you want.
  • 31:18 - 31:22
    Also read the quarterly investment updates
    on our website, so that you get a better
  • 31:22 - 31:26
    understanding of how investments actually
    work, rather than just listening to the
  • 31:26 - 31:30
    news, rather than your sister-in-law,
    or indeed your friends because without
  • 31:30 - 31:35
    any disrespect intended, most of us aren't
    investment gurus, we hear things through
  • 31:35 - 31:37
    the news, we hear things through friends.
  • 31:37 - 31:41
    Get it from the horse's mouth, read the
    updates, we want you to be as informed
  • 31:41 - 31:45
    as you can and you make those key
    decisions. You can also try our
  • 31:45 - 31:49
    contributions calculator, so on the GESB
    website, right-hand side roughly half-way
  • 31:49 - 31:52
    down, there's a section called
    'calculators', within that there
  • 31:52 - 31:56
    is the investments tool, but there are
    also tools about showing you how much
  • 31:56 - 32:00
    your contributions could be into your
    super, there are also calculators about
  • 32:00 - 32:05
    the time and planning. How much difference
    will contributions make into your super
  • 32:05 - 32:06
    over the long-term.
  • 32:06 - 32:08
    Have a look at them, they're very
    worthwhile.
  • 32:08 - 32:12
    What should you be being next?
    Well maybe contact at GESB if you need to.
  • 32:12 - 32:16
    Now this is a recorded session so I won't
    be taking any questions, but please feel
  • 32:16 - 32:23
    free to contact at GESB on working days
    Monday to Friday between 7:30am and 5:30pm
  • 32:23 - 32:31
    by calling 13 43 72, which just happens to
    be 13 GESB. So 13 43 72. You can also use
  • 32:31 - 32:37
    the live chat on the GESB website between
    the hours of 7:30am and 5:15pm, or you
  • 32:37 - 32:42
    can contact us through the website. If you
    found this somewhat useful, you can go
  • 32:42 - 32:46
    back and watch this webinar at your
    leisure, it is being recorded, and if
  • 32:46 - 32:50
    you've got any questions, contact GESB
    directly. We'll be updating this webinar
  • 32:50 - 32:54
    probably at the beginning of the next
    financial year, and there are many other
  • 32:54 - 32:58
    webinars available on the GESB website.
    In the meantime, my name is Brad Zaknich,
  • 32:58 - 33:02
    thank you very much for logging in,
    we hope you enjoyed this recorded webinar.
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