A Journey From Afghanistan: Abbas Nazari at TEDxEQChCh
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0:08 - 0:11Hello everyone. It's great to be here.
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0:11 - 0:12You know, great to be at the stage of my old auditorium,
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0:12 - 0:15my school and, you know,
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0:15 - 0:19what an honor it is to be on this stage at TEDx.
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0:19 - 0:22And, like everyone else here, I'm here.
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0:22 - 0:26I'm a story teller, some people call me an artist.
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0:26 - 0:28And I'm a story teller.
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0:28 - 0:33And I'm here to share with you my story.
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0:33 - 0:36You see, when I first got asked to do a TED talk,
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0:36 - 0:40I Googled it to see what it's all about, and
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0:40 - 0:42one of the speakers came up and she said that
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0:42 - 0:44she was fine until she got up on stage
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0:44 - 0:47and then she saw the timer and then she noticed
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0:47 - 0:50that it was ticking down and it reminded her
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0:50 - 0:51very much of a bomb.
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0:51 - 0:53(Laughter)
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0:53 - 0:56You see I'm from Afghanistan and
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0:56 - 1:01that's the last thing I want to be reminded of.
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1:01 - 1:05But anyway, earlier this year I went back to Afghanistan
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1:05 - 1:08with my father and this photo was taken from
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1:08 - 1:12behind our house, in a tiny little village of Joghori.
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1:12 - 1:17And that's sunset on the black mountains on the back.
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1:17 - 1:20In this next photo is down on the valley floor in front of my house
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1:20 - 1:24and that's me with one of the young ones there.
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1:24 - 1:27And this photo was taken right there, that green door,
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1:27 - 1:32green door to my house that I grew up in.
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1:32 - 1:35You see, back in 2001 when the Taliban were at
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1:35 - 1:40the height of their power everything changed.
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1:40 - 1:42What do you see, what do you think,
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1:42 - 1:44when you think of the word "Afghanistan"?
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1:44 - 1:46What comes into your mind?
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1:46 - 1:51Soldiers, bombs, death, improvised explosive devises,
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1:51 - 1:53just like the ones that were used to kill 5 of our brave
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1:53 - 1:57troops only 2 weeks ago -- but this is my Afghanistan.
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1:57 - 2:03This is what comes into my mind every time I think of home.
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2:03 - 2:06So back in 2001 when the Taliban took over
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2:06 - 2:10when they were at the height of their power, life was bad.
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2:10 - 2:12This didn't exist anymore.
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2:12 - 2:16All concepts of basic human rights were thrown out the window.
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2:16 - 2:19Women were forced to stay at home,
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2:19 - 2:23stay uneducated, or restricted from teaching.
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2:23 - 2:25Men were forced to grow beards and simply accept
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2:25 - 2:28the judgment of the local commander.
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2:28 - 2:31You know, whatever that may be.
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2:31 - 2:36Life as we knew it had changed.
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2:36 - 2:40So there we were in 2001 --
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2:40 - 2:43me and my family being part of the ethnic minority,
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2:43 - 2:49the Khazars, we were persecuted and executed.
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2:49 - 2:51We were seen by the Taliban and their people
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2:51 - 2:56as a tumor that needed to be cut and gotten rid of.
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2:56 - 2:59For half time entertainment at local football matches
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2:59 - 3:03my people were brought on onto the field
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3:03 - 3:06and stoned to death.
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3:06 - 3:11Education en mass for the price of disobedience.
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3:11 - 3:14And so, as you can imagine, my father made the
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3:14 - 3:17decision for our family to leave.
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3:17 - 3:21Seek a fresh start, somewhere new. A new beginning.
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3:21 - 3:25And that new beginning was going to be Australia.
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3:25 - 3:30So we set out in spring of 2001.
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3:30 - 3:35Under the cover of night, we arrived in Pakistan, in Karachi.
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3:35 - 3:40And, already life was different and I was in the next country.
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3:40 - 3:42Our family stayed in a one bedroom apartment
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3:42 - 3:46while our traveling papers were organized.
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3:46 - 3:50And I celebrated my 7th birthday in Pakistan.
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3:50 - 3:53Indonesia was going to be the next step.
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3:53 - 3:55See I remember the journey clearly
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3:55 - 3:58because it was the first time I boarded a plane
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3:58 - 4:02and I can tell you now I was not Star Alliance member.
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4:02 - 4:04Not in New Zealand.
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4:04 - 4:07Cramped into an old rickety plane
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4:07 - 4:09I couldn't understand how we managed to stay in
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4:09 - 4:12one piece when we arrived in Indonesia.
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4:12 - 4:13And oh man, what a difference you know
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4:13 - 4:21the heat, the humidity, the bananas, the neverending expanse of water.
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4:21 - 4:24Where the hell where we?
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4:24 - 4:26But anyway, we stayed in Indonesia for 2 months
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4:26 - 4:29while once again traveling papers organized.
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4:29 - 4:31And you know we had to find a ship,
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4:31 - 4:33someone to get us to New Zealand.
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4:33 - 4:35I'm not in New Zealand at this time obviously,
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4:35 - 4:40Australia, we didn't even know this tiny island nation even existed.
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4:40 - 4:42Then one night, you know, we'd been here for 2 months
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4:42 - 4:45and then one night, I was started awake by my mother
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4:45 - 4:47and she said "We're leaving."
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4:47 - 4:49And me, being unaware, not knowing,
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4:49 - 4:51I was 7 at the time, and anyways I was,
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4:51 - 4:55"OK, you know, let's leave."
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4:55 - 4:57We were leaving tonight, oh wow.
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4:57 - 4:59So I quickly grabbed on to as many clothes as I could
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4:59 - 5:02I checked them on trying to save some space in my bag and
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5:02 - 5:05we were hurried off onto a bus in the middle of the night.
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5:05 - 5:07This was all pitch black darkness so you couldn't see anything
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5:07 - 5:09In the middle of the night, we were rushed off
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5:09 - 5:13to port, port Merak in Indonesia.
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5:13 - 5:15And, in Port Merak we caught up with some
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5:15 - 5:17of the other Khazars families, who were also
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5:17 - 5:19escaping the atrocities back home.
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5:19 - 5:20But we couldn't see anyone
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5:20 - 5:22we couldn't distinguish number or what not.
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5:22 - 5:27So there we were hurried along into the belly of this
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5:27 - 5:31unknown ship and we couldn't understand --
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5:31 - 5:32we knew we were at the port because we could hear
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5:32 - 5:34crashing of the waves, but we didn't know
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5:34 - 5:36where we were, we just hurried along to the ship
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5:36 - 5:37you know, what sort of ship is this?
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5:37 - 5:40How big it is?
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5:40 - 5:43The next day I got the chance to truly explore this vessel you know,
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5:43 - 5:46the MV Palapa 2 as it was known.
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5:46 - 5:49and I hate to think what happened to Palapa 1.
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5:49 - 5:51The MV Palapa 2 was a fishing vessel
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5:51 - 5:57and just like fish, 438 Afghans, mostly Afghans,
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5:57 - 6:01were crammed into a space that was meant to hold 40.
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6:01 - 6:03And I remember, I remember needing to go to the
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6:03 - 6:06bathroom when I discovered that it was simply a hole,
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6:06 - 6:09in the deck that ran straight into the ocean,
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6:09 - 6:14I didn't need to go to the bathroom anymore.
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6:14 - 6:18But anyway, on the second day, the engine failed
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6:18 - 6:21and that night a storm hit and here you know,
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6:21 - 6:24this was the scariest moment of the whole journey.
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6:24 - 6:26Not for me, but for everyone,
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6:26 - 6:30as a kid, you know, I thought I was on a big adventure.
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6:30 - 6:32But put yourselves in my father's position,
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6:32 - 6:35he thought that he was offering us a chance,
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6:35 - 6:37his family a chance at a fresh start
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6:37 - 6:39and now, in this situation when the most,
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6:39 - 6:42when our fate was at the mercy of the waves
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6:42 - 6:45he thought that he had condemned us to death.
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6:45 - 6:49The men all reached the lowest point of their lives at this point.
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6:49 - 6:53And still thinking back at it today I think,
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6:53 - 6:56how the hell did we survive that night?
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6:56 - 6:59Because it was a miracle
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6:59 - 7:02the men at that point we were praying, praying to God
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7:02 - 7:03that please save us
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7:03 - 7:06you know, if we're to drown tonight, please wash our
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7:06 - 7:10bodies on some shore so we can be buried on land.
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7:10 - 7:14But the next day, it eventuated and a small plane
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7:14 - 7:16flew overhead and you know as you can imagine
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7:16 - 7:19there's a sense of hope that
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7:19 - 7:21this plane would see us and
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7:21 - 7:23we would be rescued but nothing happened.
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7:23 - 7:25And the one man who's sitting at the back of the
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7:25 - 7:28auditorium thought he could speak some
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7:28 - 7:30English could write the letters S O S
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7:30 - 7:32and put it up so that the next time a flight
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7:32 - 7:33pass they will see us and it did
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7:33 - 7:36but again nothing happened.
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7:36 - 7:38Morning turned into evening
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7:38 - 7:41and all sense of hope was lost again.
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7:41 - 7:43But that evening God heard our prayers
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7:43 - 7:49for out of the horizon came the MV Tampa --
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7:49 - 7:51MV Tampa is a Norwegian cargo ship heading from
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7:51 - 7:53Fremantle in Wiston Australia to Singapore
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7:53 - 7:56and had picked up our distress signal that the
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7:56 - 7:58captain had put up.
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7:58 - 8:01And that's our little boat right there anchored next
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8:01 - 8:06to the MV Tampa.
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8:06 - 8:09And so as the last man got out of the Palapa,
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8:09 - 8:12the Palapa sank
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8:12 - 8:14taking with it everything that we brought from
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8:14 - 8:16Afghanistan and Pakistan to start our new lives elsewhere.
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8:16 - 8:20It sank and is now at the bottom of the Indian Ocean.
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8:20 - 8:23Here we wanted to go
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8:23 - 8:25We slept in containers, empty containers
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8:25 - 8:28and we prayed on deck, and we wanted to know
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8:28 - 8:30we wanted to go to Australia to Christmas Island
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8:30 - 8:33because it was under Australian control and hopefully
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8:33 - 8:37here we would be processed and sent to Australia
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8:37 - 8:38this was it, here we are,
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8:38 - 8:41the last stepping stone, we're going to go.
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8:41 - 8:44But Australia at this time was in the midst of an election
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8:44 - 8:50and policy had changed --
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8:50 - 8:53John Howard closed the doors on Australia
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8:53 - 8:56to further his campaign.
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8:56 - 8:58And so Captain Rinnan, a brave man, a risk taker,
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8:58 - 9:01he chose, he headed straight for Christmas Island
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9:01 - 9:03but you know within 10 kilometers of Christmas Island
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9:03 - 9:07we were forced back by SAS troops.
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9:07 - 9:09And under pressure from his own bosses
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9:09 - 9:11Renner could not hold us anymore because
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9:11 - 9:12he needed his freight to Singapore.
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9:12 - 9:14He could not be a host for us anymore.
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9:14 - 9:16And so we changed, we were transferred onto
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9:16 - 9:19the HMS Minora, a navy frigate.
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9:19 - 9:21And this was a lot better for we had bedding
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9:21 - 9:25and shower facilities, but still we had no sense of direction
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9:25 - 9:30we had, we were just waiting out on the ocean with nowhere to go.
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9:30 - 9:33While we were on there, 9/11 happened
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9:33 - 9:35but we were unaware.
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9:35 - 9:39Because New Zealand put up a tent.
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9:39 - 9:41Who or what is a New Zealand?
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9:41 - 9:43(Laughter)
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9:43 - 9:46That's what we were thinking
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9:46 - 9:49but we didn't care for New Zealand was the end
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9:49 - 9:52of our 6 month journey from that little village you saw
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9:52 - 9:55at the first picture.
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9:55 - 10:00So we arrived in New Zealand 28th of September 2001
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10:00 - 10:04and at the tarmac of Auckland Airport we felt home.
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10:04 - 10:08For the first time, we felt on solid ground
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10:08 - 10:14and so we transferred to Mangere Refugee Center
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10:14 - 10:16and from there we've been living in Christchurch
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10:16 - 10:21for the past 11 years.
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10:21 - 10:23That's me and my dad right now when we went back
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10:23 - 10:25this Saturday to Afghanistan and to think
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10:25 - 10:29where we've come from and where I am at right now
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10:29 - 10:34where I'm standing on this stage today is a story of hope
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10:34 - 10:36and I want to tell all of you this is my message to all of you.
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10:36 - 10:40We're all going through a tough time right now
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10:40 - 10:45this country right now is the last land mass to be colonized.
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10:45 - 10:48Everyone in this auditorium is either a migrant,
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10:48 - 10:52a refugee, or a descendant of one.
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10:52 - 10:55It's forever enriching its identity
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10:55 - 11:00with people from all over the world.
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11:00 - 11:04And so if I, in final remark, regards I just wanted
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11:04 - 11:06to tell you we're all going through a tough time
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11:06 - 11:08you know, never lose hope because there are other people
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11:08 - 11:09going through tougher times.
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11:09 - 11:12We all have the power to make a difference
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11:12 - 11:16as I graduate and head off from this stage and go
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11:16 - 11:18to University down the road I wonder,
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11:18 - 11:21"How can I make a difference?"
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11:21 - 11:25But the reality is we all have the power to make a difference.
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11:25 - 11:30And that can be as easy as listening to someone tell their story.
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11:30 - 11:31Thank you.
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11:31 - 11:42(Applause)
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11:43 - 11:44(Moderator) No, don't go, don't go,stay,
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11:44 - 11:47we gotta talk a bit about your family.
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11:47 - 11:58(Applause)
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11:59 - 12:05(Moderator) The word "Tampa" looms very large in history
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12:05 - 12:09and so to have met somebody who came here from
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12:09 - 12:11the Tampa is a huge privilege.
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12:11 - 12:14You asked, "Who or what is New Zealand?"
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12:14 - 12:17The simple answer is "You are!"
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12:17 - 12:20and you didn't come on your own.
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12:20 - 12:22and so we would like to acknowledge family and friends
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12:22 - 12:26in the audience if they would like to stand please?
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12:26 - 12:29You're out there. Thank you very much indeed.
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12:29 - 12:36(Applause)
- Title:
- A Journey From Afghanistan: Abbas Nazari at TEDxEQChCh
- Description:
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Ten years ago, then 7-year-old Abbas Nazari and his family fled Afghanistan and the Taliban for the hope of a better future in Australia. In this emotional talk, Abbas shares the incredible tale of risk and courage that ultimately led them to New Zealand.
- Video Language:
- English
- Team:
closed TED
- Project:
- TEDxTalks
- Duration:
- 12:45
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