Why gender-based marketing is bad for business
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0:02 - 0:04Like a lot of people around the world,
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0:04 - 0:06earlier this summer
my friends and I were obsessed -
0:06 - 0:09with the Women's World Cup held in France.
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0:09 - 0:12Here we are, watching
these incredible athletes, -
0:12 - 0:15the goals were amazing,
the games were clean and engaging, -
0:15 - 0:18and at the same time, outside the field,
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0:18 - 0:20these women are talking about equal pay,
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0:20 - 0:24and in the case of some countries,
any pay at all for their sport. -
0:24 - 0:27So because we were mildly obsessed,
we wanted to watch the games live, -
0:27 - 0:31and we decided that one of
the Spanish-speaking networks in the US -
0:31 - 0:33was the best place for us to start.
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0:33 - 0:36And it wasn't until a few games
into the tournament -
0:36 - 0:38that a friend of mine
talks to me and says, -
0:38 - 0:41"Why does it feel
like everything I'm seeing -
0:41 - 0:44is commercials for makeup and
household cleaning products and diets?" -
0:45 - 0:47It did feel a little bit too obvious,
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0:47 - 0:49and I don't know if
we were sensitive about it -
0:49 - 0:52or the fact that we were watching
with men and boys in our lives, -
0:52 - 0:54but it did feel a little bit too obvious
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0:54 - 0:57that we're being targeted for being women.
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0:57 - 1:01And to be honest there's nothing
necessarily wrong with that. -
1:01 - 1:04Someone sat down and looked
at the tournament and said, -
1:04 - 1:08"Well, this thing is likely
to be seen by more women, -
1:08 - 1:11these women are Hispanic
because they're watching in Spanish, -
1:11 - 1:12and this is women content.
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1:12 - 1:15Therefore, this is a great place
for me to place all these commercials -
1:15 - 1:18that are female-centric
and maybe not other things." -
1:18 - 1:20If I think about it as a marketer,
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1:20 - 1:23I know that I absolutely
should not be annoyed about it, -
1:23 - 1:26because this is what marketers
are tasked with doing. -
1:26 - 1:30Marketers are tasked with building brands
with very limited budget, -
1:30 - 1:32so there's a little bit of an incentive
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1:32 - 1:34to categorize people in buckets
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1:34 - 1:36so they can reach their target faster.
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1:36 - 1:37So if you think about this,
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1:37 - 1:39it's kind of like a shortcut.
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1:39 - 1:42They're using gender as a shortcut
to get to their target consumer. -
1:43 - 1:47The issue is that as logical
as that argument seems, -
1:47 - 1:51gender as a shortcut
is actually not great. -
1:51 - 1:54In this day and age,
if you still blindly use a gender view -
1:54 - 1:55for your marketing activities,
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1:55 - 1:58actually it's just plain bad business.
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1:58 - 2:02I'm not talking even about the backlash
on stereotypes in advertising, -
2:02 - 2:05which is a very real thing
that has to be addressed. -
2:05 - 2:08I'm saying it's bad business because
you're leaving money on the table -
2:08 - 2:10for your brands and your products.
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2:10 - 2:13Because gender is such an easy thing
to find in the market -
2:13 - 2:15and to target and to talk about,
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2:15 - 2:18it actually distracts you
from the fun things -
2:18 - 2:20that could be driving growth
from your brands -
2:20 - 2:21and, at the same time,
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2:21 - 2:24it continues to create
separation around genders -
2:24 - 2:26and perpetuate stereotypes.
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2:26 - 2:29So at the same time
this activity is bad for your business -
2:29 - 2:31and bad for society, so double whammy.
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2:32 - 2:35And gender is one of those things
like other demographics -
2:35 - 2:38that have historically been
good marketing shortcuts. -
2:38 - 2:40At some point, however,
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2:40 - 2:42we forgot that at the core
we were targeting needs -
2:42 - 2:47around cooking and cleaning
and personal care and driving and sports -
2:47 - 2:49and we just made it all a bucket
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2:49 - 2:51and we said, "Men and women
are different." -
2:51 - 2:53We got used to it and
we never challenged it again, -
2:54 - 2:55and it's fascinating to me,
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2:55 - 2:58and by fascinating I mean
a little bit insane, -
2:58 - 3:00that we still talk about this as a segment
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3:00 - 3:04when it's most likely carryover bias.
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3:04 - 3:06In fact, I don't come
to this conclusion lightly. -
3:06 - 3:10We have enough data to suggest
that gender is not the best place -
3:10 - 3:14to start for you to design
and target your brands. -
3:14 - 3:16And I would even go one step further:
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3:16 - 3:20unless you are working in
a very gender-specific product category, -
3:20 - 3:22probably anything else
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3:22 - 3:24you're hypothesizing
about your consumer right now -
3:24 - 3:26is going to be more useful than gender.
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3:28 - 3:31We did not set up to draw
this conclusion specifically. -
3:31 - 3:32We found it.
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3:32 - 3:35As consultants, our job
is to go with our clients -
3:35 - 3:36and understand their business
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3:36 - 3:40and try to help them find spaces
for their brands to grow. -
3:40 - 3:44And it is our belief that if you want
to find disruptive growth in the market, -
3:44 - 3:46you have to go to the consumer
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3:46 - 3:48and take a very agnostic view
of the consumer. -
3:48 - 3:50You have to go and look
at them from scratch, -
3:50 - 3:55remove yourself from biases and segments
that you thought were important, -
3:55 - 3:58just take a look to see
where the growth is. -
3:58 - 4:01And we built ourselves
an algorithm precisely for that. -
4:01 - 4:03So imagine that we have a person
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4:03 - 4:06and we know a person is making a choice
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4:06 - 4:08about a product or service,
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4:08 - 4:11and from this person,
I can know their gender, of course, -
4:11 - 4:14other demographics, where they live,
their income, other things. -
4:14 - 4:17I know the context where
this person is making a decision, -
4:17 - 4:19where they are, who they're with,
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4:19 - 4:21the energy, anything,
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4:21 - 4:23and I can also put
other things in the mix. -
4:23 - 4:24I can know their attitudes,
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4:24 - 4:26how they feel about the category,
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4:26 - 4:28their behaviors.
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4:28 - 4:32So if you imagine this kind of blob
of big data about a person -- -
4:32 - 4:34I'm going to oversimplify the science here
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4:34 - 4:38but we basically built an algorithm
for statistical tournaments. -
4:38 - 4:42So a statistical tournament
is like asking this big thing of data, -
4:42 - 4:47"So, data, from everything
you know about consumers at this point, -
4:47 - 4:49what is the most
useful thing I need to know -
4:50 - 4:53that tells me more
about what consumers need?" -
4:53 - 4:55So the tournament is going
to have winners and losers. -
4:55 - 4:58The winners are those variables,
those dimensions, -
4:58 - 5:00that actually teach you a lot
about your consumer, -
5:00 - 5:02that if you know that,
you know what they need. -
5:02 - 5:05And there's losing variables
that are just not that practical, -
5:05 - 5:08and this matters because
in a world of limited resources, -
5:08 - 5:12you don't want to waste it on people
that actually have the same needs. -
5:12 - 5:14So why treat them differently?
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5:14 - 5:17So at this point, I know,
suspense is not killing you, -
5:17 - 5:18because I told you what the output is,
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5:18 - 5:21but what we found over time
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5:21 - 5:25is after 200 projects around the world --
this is covering 20 countries or more -- -
5:25 - 5:29in essence we ran about
a hundred thousand of these tournaments, -
5:29 - 5:34and, no surprise, gender was very rarely
the most predictive thing -
5:34 - 5:36to understand consumer needs.
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5:37 - 5:39From a hundred thousand tournaments,
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5:39 - 5:42gender only came out
as the winning variable -
5:42 - 5:43in about five percent of them.
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5:44 - 5:46This is true around the world, by the way.
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5:46 - 5:49We did this in places
where traditional gender roles -
5:49 - 5:51are a little more pronounced,
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5:51 - 5:53and the conclusions were exactly the same.
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5:53 - 5:56It was a little bit more important,
gender, than five percent, -
5:56 - 5:57but not material.
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5:57 - 5:59So let's let that sink in for a second.
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6:00 - 6:02No matter how you're looking
at a consumer, -
6:02 - 6:06most likely anything else is going
to be more interesting to you than gender. -
6:06 - 6:10There's probably something very important
you need to know about them, -
6:10 - 6:13and you're getting distracted because
you're doing everything based on gender. -
6:13 - 6:16And that's why I say you're leaving
money on the table. -
6:16 - 6:19Gender is easy. It's easy to design
advertising based on gender, -
6:19 - 6:23it's easy to target people online
and on TV based on gender. -
6:24 - 6:27But at the end, that's not where
the exciting growth will come from. -
6:27 - 6:31If you're a food company, for example,
it's actually much more interesting to you -
6:31 - 6:35to know where people are eating,
who they are eating with, -
6:35 - 6:37are they very nutritionally oriented.
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6:37 - 6:41All of those things are actually
significantly more powerful and useful -
6:41 - 6:43than knowing if a person
is a man or a woman. -
6:43 - 6:45And that matters, of course,
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6:45 - 6:48because then if you're putting
your limited budget into action, -
6:48 - 6:51then you're better off creating
solutions for different occasions -
6:51 - 6:53than trying to target women
versus young men. -
6:55 - 6:57Another example is alcoholic beverages.
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6:57 - 7:01Thirty-five percent to 40 percent
of consumption in alcoholic beverages -
7:01 - 7:03around the world
actually happens with women, -
7:03 - 7:05but, you know, "women don't drink beer."
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7:05 - 7:08Those are the things
that we typically hear. -
7:09 - 7:13But actually, when a man and a woman are,
for the most part, in the same location, -
7:13 - 7:16the emotional and functional needs
they have at that moment -
7:16 - 7:17are very similar.
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7:17 - 7:19There's only one exception, by the way,
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7:19 - 7:21and the exceptions exist,
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7:21 - 7:23where if you have a man and a woman
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7:23 - 7:24on a date,
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7:24 - 7:27the man is trying to impress the woman
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7:27 - 7:29and the woman is trying
to connect with the man, -
7:29 - 7:31so there's going to be
a little bit of tension, -
7:31 - 7:33but that's important to know.
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7:33 - 7:34We'll take a few dates.
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7:34 - 7:37Financial institutions:
that's something where we've heard a lot -
7:37 - 7:39about the difference
between men and women, -
7:39 - 7:42but actually talking about
men and women as different -
7:42 - 7:44is distracting you
from the thing that is underneath. -
7:44 - 7:47We made it so simple
as "women don't like to invest," -
7:48 - 7:49"women hate managing their money,"
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7:49 - 7:52"men are great and aggressive
and risk-takers," -
7:52 - 7:54but at the end it's not
about men and women. -
7:54 - 7:56It is actually a different narrative.
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7:56 - 7:59It is about, there are people
that are excited and energized -
7:59 - 8:01and educated to manage their finances
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8:02 - 8:03versus people that are not.
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8:03 - 8:05So if you change the conversation
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8:05 - 8:08from men and women
to actually what's underneath -
8:08 - 8:11then probably you'll stop being
so condescending to women -
8:11 - 8:13and you may start serving some men
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8:13 - 8:16that are actually shy
about managing their finances. -
8:16 - 8:17I'll leave one more example.
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8:17 - 8:20If I go back to the women
that were playing sport at the beginning, -
8:20 - 8:24one of the fascinating things we found
over different countries, -
8:24 - 8:26exploring sportswear,
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8:26 - 8:29that if a person is a competitive person
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8:29 - 8:31and they are in the moment of action,
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8:31 - 8:33the needs are not different
between a man and a woman. -
8:33 - 8:35An athlete is an athlete.
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8:35 - 8:38It doesn't matter for men and women,
it doesn't matter for old and young, -
8:38 - 8:39you are an athlete,
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8:40 - 8:42and in the moment of action
and extreme competition, -
8:42 - 8:44you need this gear to work for you.
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8:44 - 8:47So these soccer-playing women have
a lot in common with their counterparts. -
8:47 - 8:49Out of the field, it doesn't matter.
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8:49 - 8:52Out of the field, they may be
into fashion, into other things, -
8:52 - 8:55but on the field,
the needs are not different. -
8:55 - 8:58So these are just a few examples
on categories where we found -
8:58 - 9:01that gender was not the best place to go,
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9:01 - 9:04and actually the argument is
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9:04 - 9:06that at this point
it's not even a feminist push, -
9:06 - 9:07it's just we got used to it.
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9:07 - 9:09We got used to using gender,
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9:09 - 9:12and it's important for us
to start finding ways -
9:12 - 9:14to measure other things about consumers
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9:14 - 9:17so that we don't revert back to gender.
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9:17 - 9:18I am not naïve,
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9:18 - 9:20and I know there's still
going to be appetite -
9:20 - 9:22and certain ease around using gender,
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9:22 - 9:24but at least this warrants a conversation.
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9:24 - 9:26In your business, you have to inquire,
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9:26 - 9:29is this really the best lens
for me to grow. -
9:29 - 9:33So, if you are, like me,
a person that is in business, -
9:33 - 9:37that I am constantly worried
about what is my role -
9:37 - 9:40in the broader societal discussions,
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9:40 - 9:43if you're listening to your business
and you hear things like, -
9:43 - 9:45"Oh, my target are women,
my target are men, -
9:45 - 9:48this goes to young girls, young boys,"
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9:48 - 9:50when it's that gender conversation,
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9:50 - 9:51unless you are working, again,
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9:51 - 9:55in a very specific,
gender-specific product category, -
9:55 - 9:57take this as a warning sign,
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9:57 - 10:00because if you keep
having these conversations, -
10:00 - 10:02you will keep perpetuating
stereotypes of people -
10:02 - 10:05and making people think
that men and women are different. -
10:05 - 10:08But because this is business,
and we're running a business, -
10:08 - 10:09and we want to grow it,
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10:09 - 10:12at least kind of challenge
your own instinct to use gender, -
10:12 - 10:15because statistics say that you're
probably not choosing the best variable -
10:15 - 10:17to target your product or service.
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10:17 - 10:20Growth is not easy at all.
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10:20 - 10:22What makes you think
that growth is going to come -
10:22 - 10:25from going into market
with such an outdated lens like gender? -
10:25 - 10:28So let's stop doing what's easy
and go for what's right. -
10:28 - 10:32At this point, it's not just
for your business, it's for society. -
10:32 - 10:33Thank you.
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10:33 - 10:36(Applause)
- Title:
- Why gender-based marketing is bad for business
- Speaker:
- Gaby Barrios
- Description:
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Companies often target consumers based on gender, but this kind of advertising shortcut not only perpetuates outdated stereotypes -- it's also bad for business, says marketing expert Gaby Barrios. In this clear, actionable talk, she explains why gender-based marketing doesn't drive business nearly as much as you might think -- and shows how companies can find better ways to reach customers and grow their brands.
- Video Language:
- English
- Team:
closed TED
- Project:
- TEDTalks
- Duration:
- 10:49
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