Econ Duel: Rent or Buy?
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0:11 - 0:14[Tyler] So Alex, we're economists.
Often people ask me, -
0:14 - 0:18well what is it that we know about
investment and investment advice anyway? -
0:19 - 0:20Now, we've already talked about equities,
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0:20 - 0:23but as economists do we have
anything else to tell people? -
0:24 - 0:25[Alex] Let's talk a little bit about housing,
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0:26 - 0:29because housing is one of these areas
where there's a lot of myths around it. -
0:29 - 0:32People in America,
it's part of the American Dream. -
0:32 - 0:36And one thing I think people don't
realize is that over the long run, -
0:36 - 0:39house prices are certainly
not guaranteed to go up. -
0:39 - 0:43I mean we saw in the financial crisis
that house prices came way down. -
0:43 - 0:46But there's still this kind of idea
that people have in their heads -
0:46 - 0:48that they're not making any more land,
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0:48 - 0:51so in the long run
house prices have to go up. -
0:51 - 0:53And we know from our
understanding of assets -
0:53 - 0:57that you should not expect your house
to be a great financial investment. -
0:58 - 1:00But isn't there a tax reason
to buy a home? -
1:00 - 1:02So if I borrow money for a mortgage,
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1:02 - 1:06and I'm paying income tax
and itemizing my deductions, -
1:06 - 1:10I can write off a lot of that mortgage
interest and get some of the money back. -
1:10 - 1:11And that means
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1:11 - 1:15it could be cheaper or more advantageous
to buy the home because of taxes. -
1:15 - 1:16But don't forget,
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1:16 - 1:20a lot of that tax advantage is going
to be captured not by the buyer, -
1:21 - 1:21but by the seller.
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1:22 - 1:25What the tax advantage means is
it pushes up the prices of homes. -
1:25 - 1:28It's already built into a higher price,
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1:28 - 1:33so you, as the buyer, don't always
get that gain. Often it's the seller. -
1:33 - 1:35Well, but think of this
in terms of elasticity. -
1:35 - 1:39Say I live in an area, like
many parts of Texas or Florida, -
1:39 - 1:43where I get this tax break that
increases the demand for homes, yes. -
1:43 - 1:47But then suppliers build more homes and
they drive the price back down again. -
1:47 - 1:50And it seems that
in a lot of states actually, -
1:50 - 1:53the buyer should be reaping a lot
of that tax break. Yes, No? -
1:53 - 1:57If only there were more places
in the United States like that, -
1:57 - 1:58I would tend to agree.
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1:59 - 2:02But one of the big problems we have
in the United States today is that -
2:02 - 2:05the demand for housing goes up
and you're in some place -
2:05 - 2:07like San Francisco, or New York, or Boston
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2:07 - 2:11where it's impossible
to get permits to build more housing. -
2:11 - 2:13And when the demand goes up,
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2:13 - 2:15all that means is
the price of the house goes up. -
2:16 - 2:19So all of those gains, whether
it's from the tax system, -
2:19 - 2:23or whether it's from people
wanting to move to San Francisco, -
2:23 - 2:25all of those gains go to the land owners.
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2:25 - 2:29And that's actually a big problem
we have in the United States today. -
2:29 - 2:31But I do see a stability reason
to own a home. -
2:31 - 2:34Say you're 37 years old,
you have 2 kids in school, -
2:34 - 2:37you want them to go to a
good high school district. -
2:37 - 2:39You don't want to be told,
"You're going to have to move." -
2:39 - 2:42You want to arrange your backyard
the way you see fit. -
2:42 - 2:45And you don't want to have to renegotiate
a rent contract. -
2:45 - 2:48All of those factors militate
in favor of buying a home. -
2:49 - 2:51So I think you're right for those people.
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2:51 - 2:54But one thing you've got to keep in mind
is that on average, -
2:54 - 2:57houses are not going to be
a great financial investment. -
2:57 - 3:01So you have to be exactly
one of those people -
3:01 - 3:05who wants extra stability,
more stability than the average person. -
3:05 - 3:07That's when you're going to gain
from buying a house. -
3:08 - 3:09And, keep in mind,
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3:09 - 3:12that when you buy a house and
that heating system collapses -
3:12 - 3:15and you've got to repair that,
that's a big problem. -
3:15 - 3:18When you're hit by a lightning strike
and you've got to repair the roof, -
3:18 - 3:20that's a big expense as well.
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3:20 - 3:24So when people say, "I'm only
worried about the rent going up." -
3:24 - 3:25Well that's fine.
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3:25 - 3:28They may be worried about that,
but don't forget, -
3:28 - 3:31you've got to be worried about replacing
the roof every 20 years, as well. -
3:31 - 3:35So it's really a marginal question,
you're saying. Like at the margin, -
3:35 - 3:38do you need the tax break
more than the typical buyer? -
3:38 - 3:39At the margin,
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3:39 - 3:43do you value the good high school district
more than the typical buyer? -
3:43 - 3:44And at the margin,
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3:44 - 3:46are you better at fixing the broken roof
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3:46 - 3:49or hiring someone to do it
than the average buyer? -
3:49 - 3:51And those things may or
may not apply to you, -
3:51 - 3:53but that's the right way
to think about it? -
3:53 - 3:55Exactly right, so if you
want that tax advantage, -
3:55 - 3:58you've got to be earning
more income than average. -
3:58 - 4:00You've got to be
itemizing your deductions. -
4:00 - 4:04If you're not one of those people
in the upper middle class, -
4:04 - 4:06you're not going to get
that tax advantage. -
4:06 - 4:08If you've got one kid, maybe
the school is not so important. -
4:08 - 4:10Maybe you have to have two
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4:10 - 4:12before you really get that
advantage from the schooling. -
4:12 - 4:16So yeah, you've got to be thinking about
how you're different from the average. -
4:16 - 4:19If you really want to buy a home,
you've got to love buying a home. -
4:20 - 4:23I think of people as needing
to save more typically, -
4:23 - 4:26that we're programmed to think about
the here and now, -
4:26 - 4:27we're a bit impatient.
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4:27 - 4:31Perhaps we haven't evolved to think well
enough about the more distant future. -
4:31 - 4:32If you buy a home,
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4:32 - 4:37pay off your mortgage at the end of 30,
or one hopes 15 years, you own something. -
4:37 - 4:39In the meantime, you're saving.
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4:39 - 4:42and you get into a routine that
doesn't even feel like saving. -
4:42 - 4:45It's more savings than if you're
writing a rent check every month. -
4:45 - 4:47So maybe it's our own imperfections.
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4:47 - 4:50We need to lock ourselves
into a higher savings regime, -
4:50 - 4:53and that's another possible reason
to buy a home. -
4:53 - 4:57Yeah, I do think the forth savings
argument has got something to it. -
4:57 - 5:00But there's a big problem, especially
in the United States today, -
5:00 - 5:05and that is there's such an encouragement
to buy houses with no money down, -
5:05 - 5:06even after the financial crisis.
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5:07 - 5:09If you really are concerned about savings,
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5:09 - 5:14the key point is to have a 20% down
payment. So save up for that down payment. -
5:15 - 5:17And that is really what is going to be
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5:17 - 5:20the forth savings aspect
of buying the house. -
5:20 - 5:23You know, I think the biggest piece
of advice I'd give to people -
5:23 - 5:26is just to be on that
wealthier side of the equation, -
5:26 - 5:28so that owning a home
makes sense for you. -
5:28 - 5:33Don't forget our earlier investment
rule: Diversify, diversify, diversify. -
5:33 - 5:35And yet, when it comes to housing,
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5:35 - 5:39people are encouraged to put a huge
amount of their wealth into one asset, -
5:39 - 5:41in one place in the country.
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5:41 - 5:43That could be a terrible decision.
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5:43 - 5:46If you're in a small town
with only one employer, -
5:46 - 5:49and you have a house and
that employer goes bust, -
5:49 - 5:51well your house price is going to fall,
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5:51 - 5:54you might lose your job,
your income is all going to fall, -
5:54 - 5:56and it's all going to be
happening concentrated, -
5:57 - 5:59all in one place all at one time.
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- Title:
- Econ Duel: Rent or Buy?
- Description:
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Owning a home is a huge part of the American Dream. But is the dream of homeownership really all it’s cracked up to be?
In this new Econ Duel from Marginal Revolution University, Professors Tyler Cowen and Alex Tabarrok weigh in on the issue. Each representing a side of the home ownership debate, the two professors ask what’s smarter—to rent, or to buy?
On the “buy” side, Tyler Cowen shares the tax advantages of buying a home as well as the effect homeownership has on one’s stability and savings regimen. Does buying a home force us into better savings habits?
Against those arguments, we have Alex Tabarrok, coming down on the “rent” side of the equation.
Among other points, he talks about the real beneficiary of tax breaks (hint: It may not be you!). Along with that, Alex tackles the trials and tribulations of home-buying, in places like San Francisco, New York, or Boston, where a combination of scarce building permits and increased demand drive up home prices. Plus, doesn’t owning a home -- and committing a 20% down payment -- break the diversification rule of good investing?
All that said, though, here’s the real question that matters—which side are YOU on? Watch and let us know in the comments!
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- Video Language:
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- Team:
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- Project:
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- Duration:
- 06:17
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