Gavin McInnes Attacks David, Ana Kasparian, Sam Seder
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0:00 - 0:01Okay.
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0:01 - 0:05I think folks are going to like this follow
up on the Gavin McInnes situation. -
0:05 - 0:07So Gavin McInnes is
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0:07 - 0:10formerly one of the are, he is one of the
founders of vice. -
0:10 - 0:13He hasn't been involved with vice for a very
long time. -
0:13 - 0:17He was one of the cofounders of the proud
boys, although I am told he has since distanced -
0:17 - 0:20himself from that extremist group.
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0:20 - 0:24Uh, in any case, the newest thing he's doing
is he has a new show and I was invited onto -
0:24 - 0:25that program.
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0:25 - 0:30I told you last week how, uh, I was offered,
um, a whole bunch of money to be on that program. -
0:30 - 0:36Others have reported, uh, including Sam Cedar
being offered $5,000 to appear on Gavin McInnes -
0:36 - 0:41program, which is a pay walled program, meaning
you only can see the content if you become -
0:41 - 0:42a paid subscriber.
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0:42 - 0:47Uh, my manager actually did some negotiation
with the Gavin McInnes team, which may have -
0:47 - 0:52been actually just Gavin McInnes communicating
with my manager under a different name and -
0:52 - 0:57was able to actually negotiate, um, uh, a
pretty substantial rate. -
0:57 - 1:02And in the midst of this negotiation that
was going on, I received a phone call from -
1:02 - 1:08a guy named Jim telling me that I should appear
on Gavin McInnes his show who we later determined -
1:08 - 1:13with like 99.9% certainty was actually Gavin
McInnes himself. -
1:13 - 1:15Here's a reminder about that.
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1:15 - 1:20Okay, let's go next to our caller from the
two five, three area code. -
1:20 - 1:22Who's calling today from two five three.
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1:22 - 1:29Hey David, it's a gym and I just wanted to
say a longtime listener. -
1:29 - 1:30First time caller.
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1:30 - 1:31Love Ya.
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1:31 - 1:36And I just wanted to talk about the green
new deal and just see what ideas you had about -
1:36 - 1:39maybe getting that pushed through.
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1:39 - 1:46And also I'm a guy I despise up on my youtube
the other day on a commercial Gavin McInnes -
1:46 - 1:49on this new show free speech.
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1:49 - 1:52And I was trying to click out of it right
away and then all of a sudden I saw Dr Cornell -
1:52 - 1:55West and Marc Lamont Hill on the show.
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1:55 - 1:56Yeah.
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1:56 - 2:02And I actually checked it out and um, it's
a cool show in regards to just liberals, uh, -
2:02 - 2:04nailing, uh, Gavin.
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2:04 - 2:07And it was so awesome to watch, especially
Marc Lamont Hill. -
2:07 - 2:12I canceled my subscription because I saw all
the shows, but I just thought it'd be awesome -
2:12 - 2:14if you could get on his show and destroy him.
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2:14 - 2:15So hold on.
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2:15 - 2:18You said you canceled your subscription to
what? -
2:18 - 2:22Oh, I signed up just to wash the doctor Lamont
Hill. -
2:22 - 2:23Oh, I see.
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2:23 - 2:24I see.
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2:24 - 2:25Cornell slash
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2:25 - 2:27the speech.
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2:27 - 2:32So then Sam Cedar from the majority report
later did a segment explaining that he also -
2:32 - 2:36had been invited to appear on Gavin McInnes
his program. -
2:36 - 2:41He also talked about this call I received
from quote Jim, who appears to really have -
2:41 - 2:42been Gavin himself.
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2:42 - 2:46Uh, Anna Casp, Berrien from the young Turks
was also invited. -
2:46 - 2:53She did a segment about it in the last day
or two and uh, covered that as well as a salmon. -
2:53 - 2:59I being invited onto the program to appear
with Gavin McInnes and now hilariously, Gavin -
2:59 - 3:06himself has done an entire episode attacking
us because despite the offer of money, we -
3:06 - 3:11have at least so far refused to appear on
his program, which is hilarious because if -
3:11 - 3:18we will only, so if we get invited with no
with no money being on the table and we refuse -
3:18 - 3:23to appear, we are not willing to engage with
the other side or whatever. -
3:23 - 3:29If we are offered money and appear, then it's,
well, we're only appearing because we were -
3:29 - 3:33given money, not because we actually want
to engage with the other side. -
3:33 - 3:38If we turn down the appearance despite the
offer of thousands and thousands of dollars -
3:38 - 3:44to appear, uh, then all of a sudden the problem
is that we are just not willing to engage -
3:44 - 3:45with the other side.
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3:45 - 3:51Even though you would think that it would
be a sign of a sort of, uh, the, the, uh, -
3:51 - 3:56the, the fact that we are not going to be
tainted or influenced by the money alone. -
3:56 - 4:00We are going to actually make decisions about
what appearances do and don't make sense. -
4:00 - 4:01So check this out.
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4:01 - 4:08This is a tweeted screenshot promoting this
event where Gavin says, this episode, this -
4:08 - 4:15entire episode is dedicated to Anna Cas, Berrien,
Sam Cedar, and David Pacman who appeared to -
4:15 - 4:19be outraged that Gavin offered the money to
debate a conservative. -
4:19 - 4:22Why is it so hard to get liberal guests?
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4:22 - 4:28Why do they consistently refuse to compete
in the marketplace of ideas? -
4:28 - 4:31And people actually wrote to me and they said,
David, you really should address this. -
4:31 - 4:37Like why not just appear and compete in the
marketplace of ideas with Gavin? -
4:37 - 4:42What's important for you to understand is
that the pitch was not debate Gavin McInnes -
4:42 - 4:50about this topic or that topic or the corrosive
nature of his influence on the political discourse. -
4:50 - 4:56The invitation was show up and have Gavin
McInnes play talk show host and moderate a -
4:56 - 5:02discussion between David Pakman in some conservative
Sam Cedar in some conservative and a cast -
5:02 - 5:04Berrien and some conservative.
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5:04 - 5:10And the, the problem I have with this, and
I've talked to Sam about this as well, is -
5:10 - 5:15that I feel as though I'm contributing to
the whitewashing of Gavin McInnes in a way -
5:15 - 5:17that I was not immediately comfortable with.
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5:17 - 5:19And to be clear, I have not actually turned
this down. -
5:19 - 5:24The reality is I can't go to New York City
and do this until the fall anyway. -
5:24 - 5:28I'm traveling every single week between now
and Labor Day and we have the David Pakman -
5:28 - 5:31show, summer vacation coming up for which
I'll be out of the country. -
5:31 - 5:33So we basically just tabled it.
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5:33 - 5:37He, I guess, interpreted it as I'm turning
down the appearance. -
5:37 - 5:42I'm open in principle to appearing on Gavin
McInnes his program. -
5:42 - 5:47But what I feel is the real problem here is
that number one, again, by allowing him to -
5:47 - 5:52play talk, show host and moderate a discussion
between another conservative and me. -
5:52 - 5:57Uh, I'm sort of whitewash ng mcinnis and again
these are videos that would be paywalls just -
5:57 - 5:59for his paid audience.
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5:59 - 6:06The last thing I want to do is give this guy
paid subscribers by allowing him to promote -
6:06 - 6:11an appearance that I did with someone else
that contributes to the white washing of Gavin -
6:11 - 6:15McInnes and may actually get people to sign
up and pay for his program. -
6:15 - 6:17Now I'm curious.
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6:17 - 6:22I haven't, again, because the show is paywalls,
I have no idea what was actually said during -
6:22 - 6:23this episode.
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6:23 - 6:29I'm curious whether he addresses the fact
that he called into my show pretending to -
6:29 - 6:35be a guy named Jim, suggesting that I should
really as a leftist go and appear on Gavin -
6:35 - 6:36McInnes his program.
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6:36 - 6:39I don't know if somebody has a subscription
to his program. -
6:39 - 6:41Maybe they can tell me if that comes up.
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6:41 - 0:00My guess is it does not come up.
- Title:
- Gavin McInnes Attacks David, Ana Kasparian, Sam Seder
- Description:
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--Gavin McInnes moves in to attacking David, Ana Kasparian, and Sam Seder after offering the three hosts money to appear on his show
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Broadcast on July 24, 2019
- Video Language:
- English
- Duration:
- 06:43
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